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(HitFix)   How Marvel's Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. has gone A.W.R.Y   (hitfix.com) divider line 188
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2013-10-30 08:40:35 AM

SeesWhatYouDidThere: Bslim: K.I.L.L. T.H.E. H.A.C.K.E.R  B.I.M.B.O.

N.O  T.H.I.S  I.S  W.H.Y  I  W.A.T.C.H


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2013-10-30 08:54:43 AM

Neeek: Kaylee wasn't hot. She was farking adorable. She made you want to hug the world.


While we penised her
 
2013-10-30 09:04:27 AM

SeesWhatYouDidThere: SeesWhatYouDidThere: Bslim: K.I.L.L. T.H.E. H.A.C.K.E.R  B.I.M.B.O.

N.O  T.H.I.S  I.S  W.H.Y  I  W.A.T.C.H

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And you're why TV shows suck these days.
 
2013-10-30 09:06:21 AM

hammer85: SeesWhatYouDidThere: SeesWhatYouDidThere: Bslim: K.I.L.L. T.H.E. H.A.C.K.E.R  B.I.M.B.O.

N.O  T.H.I.S  I.S  W.H.Y  I  W.A.T.C.H

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/image didn't attach the first time...

And you're why TV shows suck these days.


I agree with him, and I don't watch any other TV shows.
 
2013-10-30 09:32:02 AM
Wait. So, a Joss Whedon show is failing to deliver on all the hype and fanboy love surrounding it? I must consult my local clergy, for no phenomenon of this sort has ever occurred!
 
2013-10-30 09:33:55 AM

mongbiohazard: nocturnal001: I'd rather they just dump her in a pool and make her run each episode.


Oh sweet Jebus, yes. She is unfairly hot. I mean just crazy, silly hot (IMHO, anyway).  I know maybe it's not PC to say that she's too pretty to be a crazy-awesome-uber-hacker... but she's clearly too pretty to be a crazy-awesome-uber-hacker.

I'm NOT saying that as an attractive girl she wouldn't have the intellectual potential/capacity for it by nature - absolutely not that at all. What I AM saying is that there's absolutely no farking way a chick that scalding hot is going to live the life of lonely, stank, cheeto-stained, near-monastic, awkward solitude that becoming one who could hax0rz S.H.I.E.L.D. from her van would entail. That's WHY you get uber-hackers breaking in to S.H.I.E.L.D in their van - because they were creepy socially-stunted neckbeards that didn't get invited to any parties and people weren't exactly banging down their door to engage in social relations in public with them.

But Skye? THAT friggin' hot? Oh helllllllll no. Everyone with a penis - and a few without - would want to be seen with her. Everywhere, as much as possible. Especially if their ex is there. She'd get invited to all the parties, or at least her fair share. She'd have friends and BF's and girls' nights, and kiss a boy at the annual cornhusk dance and etc.... Someone that pretty will just not live the life that would both encourage AND enable her to have the free time to develop skills to the level they've attributed to her character.

Or at least, for every 1 Skye there'd be 50,000 ugly, socially maladjusted  maladjusted weirdos as good or better.


I don't have anything to add, I just love this post.

/carry on
 
2013-10-30 10:01:46 AM

BullBearMS: aendeuryu: Firefly never needed to "find" itself. It knew what it was before the first episode was aired.

Firefly SUCKED!

What was with the hot chick engineer???

Hot chicks can't be engineers.


She was a regular old mechanic wasn't she? Not some super duper savant.
 
2013-10-30 10:47:49 AM
I like the show but it needs some super hero and/or super villain crossovers... and not heroes or villains that they make up for the show. They need to have known characters from the comics.
 
2013-10-30 10:55:09 AM

highbrow45: I like the show but it needs some super hero and/or super villain crossovers... and not heroes or villains that they make up for the show. They need to have known characters from the comics.


Technically both "super villains" have been from the comics.  Graviton is a big one that even I know and I'm far from a Marvel fan.  And Scorch from last episode has comic roots.

How they have been handled is what separates AoS from Arrow though.  Black Arrow/Malcolm was a villain that was well constructed, acted, and motivated with an actual backstory deeper than any of the heroes of AoS.

Deathstroke is far more interesting than any of AoS' cast and I think just as many fans are waiting to see how he loses his eye to Oliver as finding out what happened to Coulson.
 
2013-10-30 11:02:56 AM

ambercat: aendeuryu: Silvyrbug: As with most Joss TV shows...it needs time to get some good momentum...something shows like firefly never got a chance to do.

Firefly never needed to "find" itself. It knew what it was before the first episode was aired. That was an amazingly well-put-together show. Its cancellation was a crime against culture.

Honestly, I don't think Whedon ever recovered from it. Both Dollhouse and SHIELD have the bland aroma of compromise. It's as if he lacked the enthusiasm to commit to the premise, worried that he'll get his heart broken, assuming his heart is even in it in the first place.

Well, Firefly was originally aired out of order though, so it DID take audiences a while to figure out wtf was happening, but for once that wasn't Whedon's fault. That's what the true crime was. Sometimes it just amazes me what blatantly stupid scheduling decisions people make.


I watched it as it aired.  The only people that it would take a while to figure out what was going on would be complete dummies.  The first aired episode did a great job of introducing the characters and showcasing their personalities without long build up.  It set the hook.  What killed it was pushing airdates and the timeslot.
 
2013-10-30 01:24:09 PM
killeroflight : What killed it was pushing airdates and the timeslot.

I didn't care for it.

// airdates and timeslots don't matter ... I have a tivo (and have had Tivos for over a decade).

// for me, it was the whole western and asian fusion and the juxtaposition of low tech vs high tech that lead to all sorts of oddities that grated on me.

For example.

www.pinkraygun.com

Farscape and Stargate were still on the air at that time as well, so firefly didn't make my cut (I didn't watch the episodes I had recorded on the tivo until several months after the show had already been canceled).
 
2013-10-30 01:47:17 PM

Ringshadow: This is really simple.

This show is not for the uninitiated. This show is for MCU fans. Not just Marvel comic fans, specifically, MCU. MCU is not 616, and I hope to god it never is (I recently got back into comic books and oh my god is IIM depressing).

This show is because the fandom denied Agent Coulson back to life, so they gave Clark Gregg a TV show. Which is awesome. But if you don't like MCU, you're not welcome here. The show is not for you. It's for bandwagon riders only.


No, it's not for MCU fans, either. Because this SHIELD isn't the SHIELD in the comics, or even the movies. This is the Scooby Doo team with a budget appropriated from the Department of Homeland Security.

This is a world in which a trained SHIELD operative is rewarded for his death with a plane and license to get together an acquisitions team, and who somehow fills his few allowed spots with two nerd-cute scientists whose roles could have been filled with an occasional conference call with Headquarters, a known double-agent hacker who was hired specifically because she isn't drinking the organizational kool-aid (which, interestingly, Coulson forgot when he got mad at her for cavorting with the enemy organization he knew she was a member of), one actual competent spy with the personality of an ironing board, and one experienced combatant/pilot who's "got two weeks to go til retirement" and is getting too old for this shiat.

I've never seen anything in the MCU that implies that SHIELD has that amount of incompetence and whimsy as one of its organizational values. When dealing with ancient artifacts that could destroy the world, or with exploding supervillains and the evil organization that wants to keep making them, the CIA doesn't send Agent Hooptydoo and the Getalong Gang; they send hard pipe-hitting motherfarkers who know what they're doing from the get-go.

This isn't the MCU. It's a geek-twee "We're all ok" nerdgasm version. It's the live-action version of those 80s cartoons meant to sell toys. The MCU at least pays a little homage to the world of interdiction, espionage, and logistics (division), where as the greatest evil this team faces is its members' resistance to becoming a family.

//should be running back to back with Supernatural on CW in my opinion

Supernatural is gasping out its final breaths. I'm a fan from way back, and I loved the brothers, monsters, bullets, cars, and classic rock tone of the show. Now it's the "Dean keeps a secret from Sam while angels do all the cool stuff" show. Though I'd be in favor of SHIELD following it so they can huddle with each other as the lights go out on both shows.
 
2013-10-30 03:01:36 PM
Sheild isn't great but it's growing on me. The two biggest superficial complaints here are stupid.

1) Skye is too pretty/normal.
Shut the hell up. A) it's TV. B) her parent's disappearance involved Sheild meaning either THEY had powers or SHE had powers - and there's already been a reference to her being 'weird good' with computers. Is it THAT big a stretch to imagine she's the Tony Stark of hackers? He's a genius playboy philanthropist but she's too pretty? C) the living in a van thing is hinted at as a way to as being related to both a cover for getting into sheild and a thing she did as a young woman with a boy. People adjust their lives as a teen/early 20's person all the time based on relationships.

2) SHEILD isn't secret! They have Decals!!! No shiat. Iron Man, Thor and the Hulk aren't exactly secrets either after aliens attacked NYC. That's kind if the whole premise of the show.


Also, I enjoy Arrow, but let's be honest. The main character can't really act, and the dialogue is pretty terrible everytime he waxes philosophic or comic heroey. Which is like half the show.
 
2013-10-30 03:20:16 PM

hammer85: Deathstroke is far more interesting than any of AoS' cast and I think just as many fans are waiting to see how he loses his eye to Oliver as finding out what happened to Coulson.


Not to get all spoilery but in the last episode there was a shot of him with what looked like half of his face on fire.
 
2013-10-30 03:53:31 PM

lordargent: killeroflight : What killed it was pushing airdates and the timeslot.

I didn't care for it.

// airdates and timeslots don't matter ... I have a tivo (and have had Tivos for over a decade).

// for me, it was the whole western and asian fusion and the juxtaposition of low tech vs high tech that lead to all sorts of oddities that grated on me.

For example.

[www.pinkraygun.com image 480x270]

Farscape and Stargate were still on the air at that time as well, so firefly didn't make my cut (I didn't watch the episodes I had recorded on the tivo until several months after the show had already been canceled).


The fusion I found fascinating.  So that helped reel me in, but to each their own.

I lacked tivo so watched live, actually recorded Farscape and Invisible Man on VHS when I could not watch them live.  I do not miss VHS, but I do miss good series on SciFi.
 
2013-10-30 04:56:43 PM

ReapTheChaos: "where people feel compelled to watch live or risk missing out on what people will be excitedly discussing the next day."

Is this even a thing? I've heard the expression "water cooler show" before and have always wondered. In all my years I can't ever remember people standing around at work discussing what TV show they watched the night before, unless it was something like "Hey, do anything last night?" "Not really, just sat on my ass watching TV."

I could see this happening 40 years ago when there were only 3 stations to watch, but with 100+ channels out there what are the odds of anyone watching the same show?


Breaking Bad.
 
2013-10-30 05:04:46 PM

bwesb: I think of the show as a lot like it's hottest star, Lola.

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Classically nuanced, well-balanced, expertly-crafted and certainly aesthetically pleasing but then they go and do something stupid like this....

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inorite?  They're just making stuff up for the TV show.  You'd never find that in the comic books.  Not in say, 1967.

geekmom.com

But that's the comics.  You'd never see a flying car in the Marvel cinematic universe, even as far back as 1943.

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2013-10-30 06:21:57 PM

aendeuryu: Silvyrbug: As with most Joss TV shows...it needs time to get some good momentum...something shows like firefly never got a chance to do.

Firefly never needed to "find" itself. It knew what it was before the first episode was aired. That was an amazingly well-put-together show. Its cancellation was a crime against culture.

Honestly, I don't think Whedon ever recovered from it. Both Dollhouse and SHIELD have the bland aroma of compromise. It's as if he lacked the enthusiasm to commit to the premise, worried that he'll get his heart broken, assuming his heart is even in it in the first place.


True, but that was likely because Whedon got to air out some of the elements of Firefly in Alien Resurrection.  The hijacking crew is essentially a prototype Serenity crew...
 
2013-10-30 06:41:18 PM

goatleggedfellow: I still don't get how anyone in their right mind would expect to see this show last a full season.


Uh, maybe because it's on ABC which is owned by Disney and is tied to their multi-billion dollar movie franchise?
 
2013-10-30 06:47:15 PM
Ringshadow:

Okay, that's awesome.
 
2013-10-30 06:58:47 PM

Ringshadow: This is really simple.

This show is not for the uninitiated. This show is for MCU fans. Not just Marvel comic fans, specifically, MCU. MCU is not 616, and I hope to god it never is (I recently got back into comic books and oh my god is IIM depressing).

This show is because the fandom denied Agent Coulson back to life, so they gave Clark Gregg a TV show. Which is awesome. But if you don't like MCU, you're not welcome here. The show is not for you. It's for bandwagon riders only.

Signed, knowing bandwagon owner and Coulson Crossplayer.

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/get out of my fandom, haters
//I don't come to your fandom and knock over the furniture
///tumblr roleplayer, crossplayer, will be going as Coulson to Thor 2
/if anything my complaint is that AoS is on the wrong channel and not in good company
//should be running back to back with Supernatural on CW in my opinion



1. I'm a massive MCU (Universe 199999) fan (seen every movie many times, own them all, can point out Easter eggs left and right), and a I've been Marvel zombie since the 1970s.

2. It's not YOUR fandom.

3. Playing dress-up does not make it yours, either. If anything, it weakens your legitimacy as a fan in my opinion. You dress up to draw attention to yourself; Not to draw attention to the MCU.

4. You're right about AoS belonging on CW... And that's not a good thing!  The CW is crap.

5. AoS is doing a damned good job of  tarnishing and dumbing-down the MCU. Skye is less believable than anything in the 616, and less likable than anyone in any of Marvel's universes... Even the X-Babies are less annoying than Skye and her magical cell phone.

6. The show is not because the fandom denied Coulson back to life. They've had this show in the works since before Avengers hit theaters. His apparent demise in Avengers was just one of Joss Whedon's standard tropes. He HAD to kill off someone, and he had nobody else of value to kill without damaging the ending of the movie.

7. All this said: I am leaning toward disliking this show because it's being run poorly,  and I want to like it. I want it to represent the MCU properly, but all we're getting here is a bad amalgam of Torchwood and Dollhouse/Buffy/Firefly, with bland performances, bad stories, and unlikable, cliche characters that pale in comparison to even the background characters in MCU movies. Half of the problem is that the only two people on the show who can act worth a damn are playing the two most vague characters: Coulson and May.

We did not want a show called Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. to feature a ragtag band of misfits who spew snarky one-liners and solve every week's mystery/crisis by way of Skye's deus ex hacker magic and her breasts.

The show is bordering on insulting. If you like it, I can only assume you're well under 30 because it is definitely not catering to most adult fans of the show. It's getting to be about as childish as Mighty Morphin' Power Rangers (though sexed up a bit), and that's not a good thing.

 All I can really say is that 60% of the problem is obviously the casting-- Especially Skye, who is so glaringly awful that she makes Cousin Oliver from  The Brady Bunch seem like Daryl from  The Walking Dead.
 
2013-10-30 07:02:47 PM

Neeek: BullBearMS: aendeuryu: Firefly never needed to "find" itself. It knew what it was before the first episode was aired.

Firefly SUCKED!

What was with the hot chick engineer???

Hot chicks can't be engineers.

Kaylee wasn't hot. She was farking adorable. She made you want to hug the world.


Kaylee's forced, contrived "adorableness" was part of the reason I disliked that show. How can the audience NOT know when they're being condescended to like that?
 
2013-10-30 07:08:39 PM

ZeroCorpse: Especially Skye, who is so glaringly awful that she makes Cousin Oliver from  The Brady Bunch seem like Daryl from  The Walking Dead.


Here she is singing in Chinese.

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You're welcome ;)
 
2013-10-30 07:09:47 PM
I do wonder about Farkers sometimes. Instant complaints about  another AoS thread, but those threads tend to be long, so Farkers clearly don't mind discussing it. I didn't watch Breaking Bad, but I know those threads were hugely popular. We're they full of people biatching about their existence too?

I gave up on Arrow within a handful of episodes because it was a soap opera. Are the people saying its great fans of that kind of thing, or has it changed and dumped the soap opera? If the latter is the case, where can I hook back in to avoid the boring?

As a Coulson fan, I'm trying to give AoS the benefit of the doubt for the moment because there have been aspects of each episode that I've liked. If they could hook up several of these in every episode, I'd be sold. I did finally want to slap Skye in that last episode though. STOP WHINING! YOU GOT CAUGHT! DEAL WITH IT, DON'T WHINGE! Other than that I think I'm dealing with it well.
 
2013-10-30 07:13:15 PM

Slaves2Darkness: ReapTheChaos: "where people feel compelled to watch live or risk missing out on what people will be excitedly discussing the next day."

Is this even a thing? I've heard the expression "water cooler show" before and have always wondered. In all my years I can't ever remember people standing around at work discussing what TV show they watched the night before, unless it was something like "Hey, do anything last night?" "Not really, just sat on my ass watching TV."

I could see this happening 40 years ago when there were only 3 stations to watch, but with 100+ channels out there what are the odds of anyone watching the same show?

Breaking Bad.


I don't know a single person who watches that show.
 
2013-10-30 07:14:13 PM

ExcedrinHeadache: I've never seen anything in the MCU that implies that SHIELD has that amount of incompetence and whimsy as one of its organizational values. When dealing with ancient artifacts that could destroy the world, or with exploding supervillains and the evil organization that wants to keep making them, the CIA doesn't send Agent Hooptydoo and the Getalong Gang; they send hard pipe-hitting motherfarkers who know what they're doing from the get-go.



This is just awesome, and sums it up perfectly.
 
2013-10-30 07:17:28 PM

Deneb81: The two biggest superficial complaints here are stupid.


Man, you don't even understand either of the complaints you're criticizing. The problem with Skye has been adequately explained in this thread a number of times - I'm just gonna quote myself here:

Gunther: the problem isn't that she's hot, it's that she's supposed to be an anarchist hacker who lived in a van and was raised in an orphanage... yet she presents herself with perfect hair/makeup/clothes and the personality of a popular upper-middle-class sorority sister...It's like if a show had an investment banker who looked and acted like a hobo. It's not impossible, but it is the sort of thing that they need to acknowledge in-show as odd.


There are plenty of shows with pretty female hackers that don't have fans complaining about the character - Felicity on Arrow has already been brought up (absurdly hot, but also geeky enough for the audience to buy her as a hacker), but I'm gonna add Root from Person of Interest and Claudia from W13. The former even has the whole "perfect hair/makeup/clothes" thing going on, and it works for the character because she's supposed to be a sociopath trying to pass for "normal".

As for the "is SHIELD secret or isn't it?" thing, people are asking because we genuinely don't know how that works. They seemed to be a secret organization normal people didn't know about of in the pilot (J August Richard's character hadn't heard of them), yet they drive around in SUVs with their name stenciled on the side. It's inconsistently handled.
 
2013-10-30 07:23:14 PM

fusillade762: ZeroCorpse: Especially Skye, who is so glaringly awful that she makes Cousin Oliver from  The Brady Bunch seem like Daryl from  The Walking Dead.

Here she is singing in Chinese.

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You're welcome ;)


Wow. I can't dislike that hard enough. Terrible autotuned Chinese pop music is no better than terrible autotuned American pop music.

And I don't really find her all that attractive. She's too young for me to care. I'm old enough to be her father, so the whole "sex appeal" angle is ignored. She's also too sorority girl preppy for me. I'm fairly certain I'd dislike her as a person just as much as I dislike her as an actress and singer.

I get that Whedon likes to put preppy sorority girls in these non-traditional roles (see "Buffy") but in the case of Skye, it simply doesn't work. I'd have preferred someone who looks the part, acts the part, and doesn't annoy the holy piss out of me.
 
2013-10-30 07:45:40 PM

Gunther: Gunther: the problem isn't that she's hot, it's that she's supposed to be an anarchist hacker who lived in a van and was raised in an orphanage... yet she presents herself with perfect hair/makeup/clothes and the personality of a popular upper-middle-class sorority sister...It's like if a show had an investment banker who looked and acted like a hobo. It's not impossible, but it is the sort of thing that they need to acknowledge in-show as odd.

There are plenty of shows with pretty female hackers that don't have fans complaining about the character - Felicity on Arrow has already been brought up (absurdly hot, but also geeky enough for the audience to buy her as a hacker), but I'm gonna add Root from Person of Interest and Claudia from W13. The former even has the whole "perfect hair/makeup/clothes" thing going on, and it works for the character because she's supposed to be a sociopath trying to pass for "normal".


You know, I was having a problem figuring out what exactly it was about Skye that bugged me and you nailed it. Felicity and Claudia are both hot but you can see in their personalities and their personal tastes that they're a bit dorky/nerdy, and Felicity has the whole socially awkward babbling unintentional innuendos going on.
 
2013-10-30 08:00:35 PM

Gunther: Deneb81: The two biggest superficial complaints here are stupid.

Man, you don't even understand either of the complaints you're criticizing. The problem with Skye has been adequately explained in this thread a number of times - I'm just gonna quote myself here:

Gunther: the problem isn't that she's hot, it's that she's supposed to be an anarchist hacker who lived in a van and was raised in an orphanage... yet she presents herself with perfect hair/makeup/clothes and the personality of a popular upper-middle-class sorority sister...It's like if a show had an investment banker who looked and acted like a hobo. It's not impossible, but it is the sort of thing that they need to acknowledge in-show as odd.

There are plenty of shows with pretty female hackers that don't have fans complaining about the character - Felicity on Arrow has already been brought up (absurdly hot, but also geeky enough for the audience to buy her as a hacker), but I'm gonna add Root from Person of Interest and Claudia from W13. The former even has the whole "perfect hair/makeup/clothes" thing going on, and it works for the character because she's supposed to be a sociopath trying to pass for "normal".

As for the "is SHIELD secret or isn't it?" thing, people are asking because we genuinely don't know how that works. They seemed to be a secret organization normal people didn't know about of in the pilot (J August Richard's character hadn't heard of them), yet they drive around in SUVs with their name stenciled on the side. It's inconsistently handled.


Actually I think the issue here isn't so much that it's inconsistently handled, it's that everyone is projecting the initial expectation that the agency itself is completely shadowy and secret and non existent and are actively resisting all indications that it isn't the case.  Heck if we go back to the original Iron Man, Coulson states what the name of his agency is, he's not hiding it or anything, there seems to be a viewer disconnect between the existence of an agency that does secret things, and a secret agency that no one knows about.  Honestly, in the real world if you go back several months before the all the hacking I would bet that if you asked 50% of the US population "who is the NSA?" they would respond with either "Is that like the CIA?" or more likely "The astronauts"

Also, NCIS example works here as well, heck if you clock back to the first couple seasons of NCIS half the time they say "We're from NCIS" the response is "Who?"
 
2013-10-30 08:15:35 PM

Mad_Radhu: skyotter: eddievercetti: Again, replace Skye and Roll Fizzlebeef with a C or B grade superhero.

yeah!  like Monica Rambeau.  or Aaron Stack.  or Tabby Smith.  or ...

I think they'll have to save that for the next wave of Marvel shows.


The Hoff to play Dirk Anger.

Well not really "play", more just be himself and repeat some lines.
 
2013-10-30 09:51:27 PM

ReapTheChaos: Slaves2Darkness: ReapTheChaos: "where people feel compelled to watch live or risk missing out on what people will be excitedly discussing the next day."

Is this even a thing? I've heard the expression "water cooler show" before and have always wondered. In all my years I can't ever remember people standing around at work discussing what TV show they watched the night before, unless it was something like "Hey, do anything last night?" "Not really, just sat on my ass watching TV."

I could see this happening 40 years ago when there were only 3 stations to watch, but with 100+ channels out there what are the odds of anyone watching the same show?

Breaking Bad.

I don't know a single person who watches that show.


Never noticed the Walking Dead discussion threads here?  You know, the ones that regularly get 400+ posts?
 
2013-10-30 10:18:07 PM

ReapTheChaos: but with 100+ channels out there what are the odds of anyone watching the same show?


Big Bang Theory: from 8million viewers their 1st season to 18 million in season 6.
NCIS: steady at c. 20M viewers the past several seasons.

So, yeah: put out there something people wanna watch and people will watch it. Put out a crapfest with bland characters and bland actors who happen to be attractive, and you'll get a few looky-loos but fail ultimately.

/am not referring to Ming-Na
 
2013-10-30 11:34:49 PM

ExcedrinHeadache: I've never seen anything in the MCU that implies that SHIELD has that amount of incompetence and whimsy as one of its organizational values. When dealing with ancient artifacts that could destroy the world, or with exploding supervillains and the evil organization that wants to keep making them, the CIA doesn't send Agent Hooptydoo and the Getalong Gang; they send hard pipe-hitting motherfarkers who know what they're doing from the get-go.


The problem is that the world has changed and the CIA's big boy missions aren't that big anymore.  While the CIA is sending the pipe-hitters to track down the stolen microfilm containing the plans to America's latest rocket, SHIELD is figuring out how to keep Ronan the Accuser from integrating Earth into the Kree Empire.
 
2013-10-31 12:49:52 AM

fusillade762: ZeroCorpse: Especially Skye, who is so glaringly awful that she makes Cousin Oliver from  The Brady Bunch seem like Daryl from  The Walking Dead.

Here she is singing in Chinese.

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You're welcome ;)


Well, that's her, all right.  But then today seems to be one of the days my work PC doesn't have sound.. about 2/3rds of the time, I don't know why that is.
 
2013-10-31 01:19:12 AM

fusillade762: goatleggedfellow: I still don't get how anyone in their right mind would expect to see this show last a full season.

Uh, maybe because it's on ABC which is owned by Disney which also owns Marvel and is tied to their multi-billion dollar movie franchise?


Sooo....stubbornness on behalf of the corporation?

I understand they've got reasons for wanting the show to be there. I'm just shaky on the odds of it being good in its own right. It feels too much like a franchising over-reach.
 
2013-10-31 01:25:27 AM

goatleggedfellow: fusillade762: goatleggedfellow: I still don't get how anyone in their right mind would expect to see this show last a full season.

Uh, maybe because it's on ABC which is owned by Disney which also owns Marvel and is tied to their multi-billion dollar movie franchise?

Sooo....stubbornness on behalf of the corporation?

I understand they've got reasons for wanting the show to be there. I'm just shaky on the odds of it being good in its own right. It feels too much like a franchising over-reach.


One word: synergy. Even if the ratings suck ABC can use the show as an hourlong ad for upcoming MCU movies.
 
2013-10-31 02:06:40 AM

Mentat: ExcedrinHeadache: I've never seen anything in the MCU that implies that SHIELD has that amount of incompetence and whimsy as one of its organizational values. When dealing with ancient artifacts that could destroy the world, or with exploding supervillains and the evil organization that wants to keep making them, the CIA doesn't send Agent Hooptydoo and the Getalong Gang; they send hard pipe-hitting motherfarkers who know what they're doing from the get-go.

The problem is that the world has changed and the CIA's big boy missions aren't that big anymore.  While the CIA is sending the pipe-hitters to track down the stolen microfilm containing the plans to America's latest rocket, SHIELD is figuring out how to keep Ronan the Accuser from integrating Earth into the Kree Empire.


Well, they have the Avengers Initiative for that, but that's even more reason not to hire the Scooby Gang to do covert ops for you.
 
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