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(HitFix)   How Marvel's Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. has gone A.W.R.Y   (hitfix.com) divider line 188
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2013-10-29 07:19:53 PM

Thorak: The Stealth Hippopotamus: You like Skye? Don't get me wrong I understand we need a character to lead us though this new land, but "hey let me type on my cellphone and fix everything" is getting real old real fast. I haven't watched last nights episode yet but I hope they show her in front of an actual computer this time!

Skye might be a little vanilla as a character, but the complaints about her hacker-skills are more than a little ridiculous.

"She's too pretty to be a hacker!"  That's just people thinking pretty girls must be stupid, which is stupid (you didn't say it, but others have).
"She was living in a van, WTF!"  Explained in the most recent episode; she bought fully into the whole lack of materialism thing.  As for why she was clean and looked good; she wasn't homeless and POOR.  She's a superhacker.  She probably just hacks a bank if she needs cash for something.

And more on point, with what you said, the "she keeps doing stuff that's impossible!"  It's a superhero show.  It just featured a guy that can throw fire.  It's made references to another guy who's literally a Norse God.  SHIELD agents are the best humanity has to offer,  in a world where superheroes and magic exists.

If I can accept that the Hulk exists, I can accept someone hacking shiat with a cellphone.


rugman11: What struck me was watching the trailer for the new Captain America movie.  Where's that SHIELD?  Where's the SHIELD with hover-carriers, tanks, planes, and armies and who may actually be the bad guy in all this?  That looks and sounds awesome.

I understand that it's television and you can't do that kind of thing on a TV budget, but watching the show you just constantly get the feeling that you're watching the B-Team and it just leaves me wanting more of the A-Team.

They ARE the B-Team.  That was spelled out early on.  They aren't the front line of SHIELD's best agents, they're Coulson's squad, and he likes to build his people up from the ground, which is why everyone's either ...


The cellphone part shouldn't bother you anyway, I do quite a bit of systems administration from my phone, I can VPN into my work and then SSH or RDP to whatever server I need to work on.  I'm only using my phone as a screen, I'm "on" a server.
 
2013-10-29 07:26:20 PM

foo monkey: It has so much potential as the glue to hold together the movies, but they're just kinda flying around.


i see what you did there.
 
2013-10-29 07:31:13 PM

Thorak: The Stealth Hippopotamus: You like Skye? Don't get me wrong I understand we need a character to lead us though this new land, but "hey let me type on my cellphone and fix everything" is getting real old real fast. I haven't watched last nights episode yet but I hope they show her in front of an actual computer this time!

Skye might be a little vanilla as a character, but the complaints about her hacker-skills are more than a little ridiculous.

"She's too pretty to be a hacker!"  That's just people thinking pretty girls must be stupid, which is stupid (you didn't say it, but others have).
"She was living in a van, WTF!"  Explained in the most recent episode; she bought fully into the whole lack of materialism thing.  As for why she was clean and looked good; she wasn't homeless and POOR.  She's a superhacker.  She probably just hacks a bank if she needs cash for something.


bullshiat. She specifically yells at the ex-bf last episode for taking the money BECAUSE THEY WERE POOR.  When the guys entire defense to taking a couple mil to rat out the guy so that they can make a living (rather than barely making do in a van/shiatty apartment), they aren't rich.

Her backstory is the worst god damn thing about this show.  Oh I'm an orphan that no one ever loved, someone like me.  Oh and before I get kicked out of SHIELD lets reveal that I was snooping into them because LOL MY PARENTS WERE KIDNAPPED!

Oh and Agent Ward wanted to be a field agent because "his moment" was he got beat up by his brother as a kid.  Yup, when he got his ass kicked he reached into the sky and shouted that he would be a top secret agent for a top secret organization that he probably didn't know about.

Why do we keep getting threads about this god awful show when the next day has an infinitely superior superhero show that doesn't even get a blurb.
 
2013-10-29 07:35:41 PM
"where people feel compelled to watch live or risk missing out on what people will be excitedly discussing the next day."

Is this even a thing? I've heard the expression "water cooler show" before and have always wondered. In all my years I can't ever remember people standing around at work discussing what TV show they watched the night before, unless it was something like "Hey, do anything last night?" "Not really, just sat on my ass watching TV."

I could see this happening 40 years ago when there were only 3 stations to watch, but with 100+ channels out there what are the odds of anyone watching the same show?
 
2013-10-29 07:35:51 PM
As a 43 year old brown male, I like the show.  Sure the acting can be wooden parts, but its about human beings who can excel without being super heros.  It is the story of the common man rising above his mediocrity.

And I will quote the Highlander 2, which never happened, which makes me love the agents of shield.

 Most people have a full measure of life... and most people just watch it slowly drip away. But if you can summon it all up... at one time... in one place... you can accomplish something... glorious.
 
2013-10-29 07:41:25 PM
Five episodes in and the only time I cracked a smile was Fury's cameo. That tells me all I need to know.
 
2013-10-29 07:42:00 PM
It's not great, but it's not terrible either and it seems to be improving week over week.  Some beloved shows were farking TERRIBLE when they started out.  I'd loved to have seen what the comments would have looked like for the first half season of ST:TNG if Fark had been around in the late 80s.  Probably a 2000+ comment thread decrying it as the worst.idea.ever.
 
2013-10-29 07:45:04 PM
it's a shame
it spends half it's time winking at itself
and the other half
explaining itself
 
2013-10-29 07:47:36 PM
They should've kept the black guy from Angel in the show, he's the only one who can act beside the Asian woman and Paulson.
 
2013-10-29 07:49:29 PM

ReapTheChaos: "where people feel compelled to watch live or risk missing out on what people will be excitedly discussing the next day."

Is this even a thing? I've heard the expression "water cooler show" before and have always wondered. In all my years I can't ever remember people standing around at work discussing what TV show they watched the night before, unless it was something like "Hey, do anything last night?" "Not really, just sat on my ass watching TV."

I could see this happening 40 years ago when there were only 3 stations to watch, but with 100+ channels out there what are the odds of anyone watching the same show?


The water cooler is online now.  Like Downton Abbey but wait for it to air in the US?  Better not go to the Daily Mail site for four months because they'll spoil the hell out of it in the sidebar.  Like Game of Thrones?  Don't go to the Fark Entertainment page the day after the episode airs or you'll get spoiled, too.  I turn off Twitter on Sunday nights because otherwise all the shows I watch on Monday get spoiled for me.

Plus, if you actually enjoy talking about television online, the discussions usually die out in a day or two, unless it's something really zeitgeisty like Breaking Bad.
 
2013-10-29 07:52:00 PM

debug: I hope they kill both of the nerdy "science" people very soon.


This
 
2013-10-29 07:54:29 PM

rugman11: ReapTheChaos: "where people feel compelled to watch live or risk missing out on what people will be excitedly discussing the next day."

Is this even a thing? I've heard the expression "water cooler show" before and have always wondered. In all my years I can't ever remember people standing around at work discussing what TV show they watched the night before, unless it was something like "Hey, do anything last night?" "Not really, just sat on my ass watching TV."

I could see this happening 40 years ago when there were only 3 stations to watch, but with 100+ channels out there what are the odds of anyone watching the same show?

The water cooler is online now.  Like Downton Abbey but wait for it to air in the US?  Better not go to the Daily Mail site for four months because they'll spoil the hell out of it in the sidebar.  Like Game of Thrones?  Don't go to the Fark Entertainment page the day after the episode airs or you'll get spoiled, too.  I turn off Twitter on Sunday nights because otherwise all the shows I watch on Monday get spoiled for me.

Plus, if you actually enjoy talking about television online, the discussions usually die out in a day or two, unless it's something really zeitgeisty like Breaking Bad.


Who keeps twitter feeds of their favorite tv shows?

I was involved in web marketing from 1997-2011, and I never kept a twitter feed, much less a twitter account.  Because personally it is,was not worth it.

The cacophony of cackling internet hens never made any decisions for me.
 
2013-10-29 07:55:41 PM
Again, replace Skye and Roll Fizzlebeef with a C or B grade superhero. Done.

Yes, it's getting good but maybe a tad too late.
 
2013-10-29 08:02:33 PM
You know, it took 'Stargate: SG-1' more than five episodes before it started percolating. Those early episodes of SG-1 were damn close to cringeworthy.
 
2013-10-29 08:03:22 PM

theflatline: rugman11: ReapTheChaos: "where people feel compelled to watch live or risk missing out on what people will be excitedly discussing the next day."

Is this even a thing? I've heard the expression "water cooler show" before and have always wondered. In all my years I can't ever remember people standing around at work discussing what TV show they watched the night before, unless it was something like "Hey, do anything last night?" "Not really, just sat on my ass watching TV."

I could see this happening 40 years ago when there were only 3 stations to watch, but with 100+ channels out there what are the odds of anyone watching the same show?

The water cooler is online now.  Like Downton Abbey but wait for it to air in the US?  Better not go to the Daily Mail site for four months because they'll spoil the hell out of it in the sidebar.  Like Game of Thrones?  Don't go to the Fark Entertainment page the day after the episode airs or you'll get spoiled, too.  I turn off Twitter on Sunday nights because otherwise all the shows I watch on Monday get spoiled for me.

Plus, if you actually enjoy talking about television online, the discussions usually die out in a day or two, unless it's something really zeitgeisty like Breaking Bad.

Who keeps twitter feeds of their favorite tv shows?

I was involved in web marketing from 1997-2011, and I never kept a twitter feed, much less a twitter account.  Because personally it is,was not worth it.

The cacophony of cackling internet hens never made any decisions for me.


I write about television on my blog, which means I follow a bunch of critics on Twitter.  Also, not that you would know this since you apparently don't have anything to do with Twitter, but Twitter and television are kind of a thing now.
 
2013-10-29 08:04:46 PM
The only annoying part of the Avengers was the crap dialogue.  That didn't even matter since the overseas market at up the visuals.  I like Whedon well enough, but I kind of think just about anyone could have made it successful so long as RDJ had a big role and Hulk was good enough actor.  No one was going to it just because it was a Whedon film.
 
2013-10-29 08:05:19 PM

Nicholas D. Wolfwood: You know, it took 'Stargate: SG-1' more than five episodes before it started percolating. Those early episodes of SG-1 were damn close to cringeworthy.


Those were on a smaller network full of SciFi geeks.
 
2013-10-29 08:09:40 PM

eddievercetti: Again, replace Skye and Roll Fizzlebeef with a C or B grade superhero.


yeah!  like Monica Rambeau.  or Aaron Stack.  or Tabby Smith.  or ...
 
2013-10-29 08:10:23 PM

drjekel_mrhyde: Nicholas D. Wolfwood: You know, it took 'Stargate: SG-1' more than five episodes before it started percolating. Those early episodes of SG-1 were damn close to cringeworthy.

Those were on a smaller network full of SciFi geeks.


Actually they were on Showtime at first.
 
2013-10-29 08:10:30 PM
Just tuned into tonights show - reruns already?
 
2013-10-29 08:14:32 PM

nocturnal001: I'd rather they just dump her in a pool and make her run each episode.



Oh sweet Jebus, yes. She is unfairly hot. I mean just crazy, silly hot (IMHO, anyway).  I know maybe it's not PC to say that she's too pretty to be a crazy-awesome-uber-hacker... but she's clearly too pretty to be a crazy-awesome-uber-hacker.

I'm NOT saying that as an attractive girl she wouldn't have the intellectual potential/capacity for it by nature - absolutely not that at all. What I AM saying is that there's absolutely no farking way a chick that scalding hot is going to live the life of lonely, stank, cheeto-stained, near-monastic, awkward solitude that becoming one who could hax0rz S.H.I.E.L.D. from her van would entail. That's WHY you get uber-hackers breaking in to S.H.I.E.L.D in their van - because they were creepy socially-stunted neckbeards that didn't get invited to any parties and people weren't exactly banging down their door to engage in social relations in public with them.

But Skye? THAT friggin' hot? Oh helllllllll no. Everyone with a penis - and a few without - would want to be seen with her. Everywhere, as much as possible. Especially if their ex is there. She'd get invited to all the parties, or at least her fair share. She'd have friends and BF's and girls' nights, and kiss a boy at the annual cornhusk dance and etc.... Someone that pretty will just not live the life that would both encourage AND enable her to have the free time to develop skills to the level they've attributed to her character.

Or at least, for every 1 Skye there'd be 50,000 ugly, socially maladjusted  maladjusted weirdos as good or better.
 
2013-10-29 08:17:05 PM
The biggest crime is it is bland.
 
2013-10-29 08:21:34 PM

GRCooper: Just tuned into tonights show - reruns already?


Next week kicks off sweeps.  Perhaps next weeks episode has a direct Thor tie-in.
 
2013-10-29 08:22:20 PM

hammer85: Why do we keep getting threads about this god awful show when the next day has an infinitely superior supsoaperhero show that doesn't even get a blurb.

Good action, though.
 
2013-10-29 08:22:46 PM

Nefarious: GRCooper: Just tuned into tonights show - reruns already?

Next week kicks off sweeps.   Perhaps next weeks episode has a direct Thor tie-in.


That would be my bet.
 
2013-10-29 08:24:38 PM

rugman11: theflatline: rugman11: ReapTheChaos: "where people feel compelled to watch live or risk missing out on what people will be excitedly discussing the next day."

Is this even a thing? I've heard the expression "water cooler show" before and have always wondered. In all my years I can't ever remember people standing around at work discussing what TV show they watched the night before, unless it was something like "Hey, do anything last night?" "Not really, just sat on my ass watching TV."

I could see this happening 40 years ago when there were only 3 stations to watch, but with 100+ channels out there what are the odds of anyone watching the same show?

The water cooler is online now.  Like Downton Abbey but wait for it to air in the US?  Better not go to the Daily Mail site for four months because they'll spoil the hell out of it in the sidebar.  Like Game of Thrones?  Don't go to the Fark Entertainment page the day after the episode airs or you'll get spoiled, too.  I turn off Twitter on Sunday nights because otherwise all the shows I watch on Monday get spoiled for me.

Plus, if you actually enjoy talking about television online, the discussions usually die out in a day or two, unless it's something really zeitgeisty like Breaking Bad.

Who keeps twitter feeds of their favorite tv shows?

I was involved in web marketing from 1997-2011, and I never kept a twitter feed, much less a twitter account.  Because personally it is,was not worth it.

The cacophony of cackling internet hens never made any decisions for me.

I write about television on my blog, which means I follow a bunch of critics on Twitter.  Also, not that you would know this since you apparently don't have anything to do with Twitter, but Twitter and television are kind of a thing now.


I follow twitter but in marketing it still is considered an anomaly, I did write a facebook campaign that was up for a Cannes award.

Twitter is ok for Jack Handy like thoughts, but will always fall short of a real campaign unless you are trolling for something high on the public, vapid hierarchy.

So if you write a blog about television following twitter pundits, how are you for originality?
 
2013-10-29 08:26:05 PM

mongbiohazard: nocturnal001: I'd rather they just dump her in a pool and make her run each episode.


Oh sweet Jebus, yes. She is unfairly hot. I mean just crazy, silly hot (IMHO, anyway).  I know maybe it's not PC to say that she's too pretty to be a crazy-awesome-uber-hacker... but she's clearly too pretty to be a crazy-awesome-uber-hacker.

I'm NOT saying that as an attractive girl she wouldn't have the intellectual potential/capacity for it by nature - absolutely not that at all. What I AM saying is that there's absolutely no farking way a chick that scalding hot is going to live the life of lonely, stank, cheeto-stained, near-monastic, awkward solitude that becoming one who could hax0rz S.H.I.E.L.D. from her van would entail. That's WHY you get uber-hackers breaking in to S.H.I.E.L.D in their van - because they were creepy socially-stunted neckbeards that didn't get invited to any parties and people weren't exactly banging down their door to engage in social relations in public with them.

But Skye? THAT friggin' hot? Oh helllllllll no. Everyone with a penis - and a few without - would want to be seen with her. Everywhere, as much as possible. Especially if their ex is there. She'd get invited to all the parties, or at least her fair share. She'd have friends and BF's and girls' nights, and kiss a boy at the annual cornhusk dance and etc.... Someone that pretty will just not live the life that would both encourage AND enable her to have the free time to develop skills to the level they've attributed to her character.

Or at least, for every 1 Skye there'd be 50,000 ugly, socially maladjusted  maladjusted weirdos as good or better.


But did any of those 50k socially maladjusted weirdos have their parents kidnapped by a top secret agency leading her to try and be a hacker to break into said top secret agency that there is no real reason to her to even suspect or know about?
 
2013-10-29 08:37:13 PM

theflatline: follow twitter but in marketing it still is considered an anomaly, I did write a facebook campaign that was up for a Cannes award.

Twitter is ok for Jack Handy like thoughts, but will always fall short of a real campaign unless you are trolling for something high on the public, vapid hierarchy.

So if you write a blog about television following twitter pundits, how are you for originality?


Yeah, Twitter isn't being used for marketing so much as, like I hoped I was referencing, as the new water cooler.  People get on Twitter when the show is airing (and after) and talk about it like they would in a  Fark thread, or in an AV Club review, or (decades ago) at work.

As for originality, I generally don't read other reviews until I've seen an episode and, if I'm going to write about it, written my own thoughts.  Hell, I even wrote a piece a couple of weeks ago about how I feel like I'm going mad because everybody is hating on Homeland while I'm really enjoying it this year.  If critics can't be original and be on Twitter, then we're all screwed because every critic is on Twitter.
 
2013-10-29 08:41:50 PM

theflatline: Most people have a full measure of life... and most people just watch it slowly drip away. But if you can summon it all up... at one time... in one place... you can accomplish something... glorious.


And that place is....
 
2013-10-29 08:46:55 PM

ArcadianRefugee: theflatline: Most people have a full measure of life... and most people just watch it slowly drip away. But if you can summon it all up... at one time... in one place... you can accomplish something... glorious.

And that place is....


Yes, yes it is.  A magical place.
 
2013-10-29 08:49:46 PM

hammer85: mongbiohazard: nocturnal001: I'd rather they just dump her in a pool and make her run each episode.


Oh sweet Jebus, yes. She is unfairly hot. I mean just crazy, silly hot (IMHO, anyway).  I know maybe it's not PC to say that she's too pretty to be a crazy-awesome-uber-hacker... but she's clearly too pretty to be a crazy-awesome-uber-hacker.

I'm NOT saying that as an attractive girl she wouldn't have the intellectual potential/capacity for it by nature - absolutely not that at all. What I AM saying is that there's absolutely no farking way a chick that scalding hot is going to live the life of lonely, stank, cheeto-stained, near-monastic, awkward solitude that becoming one who could hax0rz S.H.I.E.L.D. from her van would entail. That's WHY you get uber-hackers breaking in to S.H.I.E.L.D in their van - because they were creepy socially-stunted neckbeards that didn't get invited to any parties and people weren't exactly banging down their door to engage in social relations in public with them.

But Skye? THAT friggin' hot? Oh helllllllll no. Everyone with a penis - and a few without - would want to be seen with her. Everywhere, as much as possible. Especially if their ex is there. She'd get invited to all the parties, or at least her fair share. She'd have friends and BF's and girls' nights, and kiss a boy at the annual cornhusk dance and etc.... Someone that pretty will just not live the life that would both encourage AND enable her to have the free time to develop skills to the level they've attributed to her character.

Or at least, for every 1 Skye there'd be 50,000 ugly, socially maladjusted  maladjusted weirdos as good or better.

But did any of those 50k socially maladjusted weirdos have their parents kidnapped by a top secret agency leading her to try and be a hacker to break into said top secret agency that there is no real reason to her to even suspect or know about?



50,000:1 odds it'd be one of them instead of Agents of H.A.S.B.R.O.'S "My First Supermodel", and then we'd have a very different scene with Neckbeard Skye in his underwear last week.

/shudder

Hey, they keep her in pretty dresses and underwear and shiat enough I'll give them a mulligan on it, just sayin' it wasn't exactly a puzzling casting choice. So she does seem like an awfully unlikely uber-hax0r even in a world of Helicarriers, alien portals and gamma radiation that gives you powers besides the power to get cancer.

But I'm still watching it... Honestly I like it. Not without faults, but entertaining. I can see where they're saving money in the episodes, but in general the production values have impressed more than amused and the episodes so far show promise.
 
2013-10-29 08:50:40 PM

skyotter: eddievercetti: Again, replace Skye and Roll Fizzlebeef with a C or B grade superhero.

yeah!  like Monica Rambeau.  or Aaron Stack.  or Tabby Smith.  or ...


I think they'll have to save that for the next wave of Marvel shows.
 
2013-10-29 08:53:01 PM

mongbiohazard: hammer85: mongbiohazard: nocturnal001: I'd rather they just dump her in a pool and make her run each episode.


Oh sweet Jebus, yes. She is unfairly hot. I mean just crazy, silly hot (IMHO, anyway).  I know maybe it's not PC to say that she's too pretty to be a crazy-awesome-uber-hacker... but she's clearly too pretty to be a crazy-awesome-uber-hacker.

I'm NOT saying that as an attractive girl she wouldn't have the intellectual potential/capacity for it by nature - absolutely not that at all. What I AM saying is that there's absolutely no farking way a chick that scalding hot is going to live the life of lonely, stank, cheeto-stained, near-monastic, awkward solitude that becoming one who could hax0rz S.H.I.E.L.D. from her van would entail. That's WHY you get uber-hackers breaking in to S.H.I.E.L.D in their van - because they were creepy socially-stunted neckbeards that didn't get invited to any parties and people weren't exactly banging down their door to engage in social relations in public with them.

But Skye? THAT friggin' hot? Oh helllllllll no. Everyone with a penis - and a few without - would want to be seen with her. Everywhere, as much as possible. Especially if their ex is there. She'd get invited to all the parties, or at least her fair share. She'd have friends and BF's and girls' nights, and kiss a boy at the annual cornhusk dance and etc.... Someone that pretty will just not live the life that would both encourage AND enable her to have the free time to develop skills to the level they've attributed to her character.

Or at least, for every 1 Skye there'd be 50,000 ugly, socially maladjusted  maladjusted weirdos as good or better.

But did any of those 50k socially maladjusted weirdos have their parents kidnapped by a top secret agency leading her to try and be a hacker to break into said top secret agency that there is no real reason to her to even suspect or know about?


50,000:1 odds it'd be one of them instead of Agents of H.A.S.B.R.O.'S "My Firs ...


The only reason I even bother to watch SHIELD at this point is that I have nothing else to watch on a tuesday night.  If this was going against Arrow's time slot it would never see the light of day.
 
2013-10-29 08:54:15 PM

mongbiohazard: nocturnal001: I'd rather they just dump her in a pool and make her run each episode.


Oh sweet Jebus, yes. She is unfairly hot. I mean just crazy, silly hot (IMHO, anyway).  I know maybe it's not PC to say that she's too pretty to be a crazy-awesome-uber-hacker... but she's clearly too pretty to be a crazy-awesome-uber-hacker.

I'm NOT saying that as an attractive girl she wouldn't have the intellectual potential/capacity for it by nature - absolutely not that at all. What I AM saying is that there's absolutely no farking way a chick that scalding hot is going to live the life of lonely, stank, cheeto-stained, near-monastic, awkward solitude that becoming one who could hax0rz S.H.I.E.L.D. from her van would entail. That's WHY you get uber-hackers breaking in to S.H.I.E.L.D in their van - because they were creepy socially-stunted neckbeards that didn't get invited to any parties and people weren't exactly banging down their door to engage in social relations in public with them.

But Skye? THAT friggin' hot? Oh helllllllll no. Everyone with a penis - and a few without - would want to be seen with her. Everywhere, as much as possible. Especially if their ex is there. She'd get invited to all the parties, or at least her fair share. She'd have friends and BF's and girls' nights, and kiss a boy at the annual cornhusk dance and etc.... Someone that pretty will just not live the life that would both encourage AND enable her to have the free time to develop skills to the level they've attributed to her character.

Or at least, for every 1 Skye there'd be 50,000 ugly, socially maladjusted  maladjusted weirdos as good or better.



It's a common conceit in writing. The same as somebody being a genius at say chemistry but also being an expert hacker.  Unpossible. Even the most intelligent among us can only master 1 field.
 
2013-10-29 08:54:33 PM

hammer85: mongbiohazard: nocturnal001: I'd rather they just dump her in a pool and make her run each episode.


Oh sweet Jebus, yes. She is unfairly hot. I mean just crazy, silly hot (IMHO, anyway).  I know maybe it's not PC to say that she's too pretty to be a crazy-awesome-uber-hacker... but she's clearly too pretty to be a crazy-awesome-uber-hacker.

I'm NOT saying that as an attractive girl she wouldn't have the intellectual potential/capacity for it by nature - absolutely not that at all. What I AM saying is that there's absolutely no farking way a chick that scalding hot is going to live the life of lonely, stank, cheeto-stained, near-monastic, awkward solitude that becoming one who could hax0rz S.H.I.E.L.D. from her van would entail. That's WHY you get uber-hackers breaking in to S.H.I.E.L.D in their van - because they were creepy socially-stunted neckbeards that didn't get invited to any parties and people weren't exactly banging down their door to engage in social relations in public with them.

But Skye? THAT friggin' hot? Oh helllllllll no. Everyone with a penis - and a few without - would want to be seen with her. Everywhere, as much as possible. Especially if their ex is there. She'd get invited to all the parties, or at least her fair share. She'd have friends and BF's and girls' nights, and kiss a boy at the annual cornhusk dance and etc.... Someone that pretty will just not live the life that would both encourage AND enable her to have the free time to develop skills to the level they've attributed to her character.

Or at least, for every 1 Skye there'd be 50,000 ugly, socially maladjusted  maladjusted weirdos as good or better.

But did any of those 50k socially maladjusted weirdos have their parents kidnapped by a top secret agency leading her to try and be a hacker to break into said top secret agency that there is no real reason to her to even suspect or know about?


Meh, if she knew it was a closed adoption then she may have developed the skills originally just to find her parents. It's a better explanation than just wanting to "let information be free." It's a thin motivation for real life, but with how neurotic her character has been written, it actually does make sense. Mostly.

I watch it, I am entertained well enough. I've never been a Whedon fan but I guess I've built up a buffer to all the angst. I hope it sticks around for at least a couple of seasons.
 
2013-10-29 09:04:30 PM

Nicholas D. Wolfwood: You know, it took 'Stargate: SG-1' more than five episodes before it started percolating. Those early episodes of SG-1 were damn close to cringeworthy.


this
 
2013-10-29 09:09:31 PM
Enough with the freaking love interests plots. Lazy studios must have insisted that there be love interests for the demographics. What next? puppies?
 
2013-10-29 09:12:17 PM
All these stupid articles start with headlines claiming SHIELD is doing poorly....
...then a few sentences in, they all say "It's actually doing well, but we expected MORE".
Asshats.
 
2013-10-29 09:13:56 PM

Five Tails of Fury: PanicMan: Well I like it. So there.

Agreed. It's building slowly, and I think it will get through the growing pains to be a steadily strong show going forward. This is the first TV series that I've gone out of my way to watch in a very long time; I'm willing to give it a few more episodes to mature.


Same here.  I just don't ever watch network TV.  I'm not the person they're trying to reach.  But I am watching SHIELD.

Esroc: Five episodes in and the only time I cracked a smile was Fury's cameo. That tells me all I need to know.


Then sir you have no soul.  I about fell off the couch laughing when they called the van "Short Bus", and Colson deadpans "I name things from now on".
 
2013-10-29 09:18:33 PM
My only complaint is I wanted it more like NCIS and instead I'm getting more NCIS L.A.
Other than that, why are people complaining about a show they don't own?
It's Marvel fun.
It's one hour.
Either watch it or don't, but quit your biatching about it.

/eh, this meal is horrible. Instead of quit eating it, I'll just keep eating it and complain.
 
2013-10-29 09:25:05 PM
It would do better in the ratings if every episode ended with a pretentious quote spoken over a montage of the plane in flight intercut with the team looking moody.
 
2013-10-29 09:28:00 PM
I'll save my comments for tomorrow's Agent of SHIELD thread....
 
2013-10-29 09:29:23 PM
Hacking is Skye's mutant power. She said " I am really good with computers, LIKE WEIRDLY GOOD."

I think her other power must have to do with being insanely good looking.
 
2013-10-29 09:33:45 PM
X_Raraavis: Hacking is Skye's mutant power. She said " I am really good with computers, LIKE WEIRDLY GOOD."


I'm sure someone in the Marvel Universe has that power but I don't feel like looking.
 
2013-10-29 09:34:40 PM

SpdrJay: I'll save my comments for tomorrow's Agent of SHIELD thread....


After watching another great episode of Arrow. Arrow started pretty weak, as well, but I think even Arrow was better 5 episodes in than Agents. Granted, I don't think they'd gotten to the Huntress yet, which was the low point. Last week had so many great Easter eggs that they can use; Metamorpho Chemical company, the container ship Amazo, and of course, **SPOILERS** Ras Al'Gul, mother farkers!
 
2013-10-29 09:42:54 PM
Coulson and May are the two high points. The low points are everything else so far. They were getting there with the show with the former agent that had the eye implant. They're hamstringing themselves terribly without AIM or Hydra as opponents and hey they even introduced AIM in Ironman 3 so what the fark? Another problem in THIS Marvel universe is due to legal reasons Fox owns the rights to the M-words so they have to bend over backwards to say "Scorch" got his powers from somewhere else.
 
2013-10-29 09:45:53 PM
Worth it for Skye in underwear. Dem hips
 
2013-10-29 09:46:19 PM
Trocadero: After watching another great episode of Arrow. Arrow started pretty weak, as well, but I think even Arrow was better 5 episodes in than Agents.

I went into Arrow, thinking he was going to be more like the Queen from Smallville (they're both CW shows!!!)

Was gratefully surprised that it's nothing like that.
 
2013-10-29 09:48:57 PM

Trocadero: SpdrJay: I'll save my comments for tomorrow's Agent of SHIELD thread....

After watching another great episode of Arrow. Arrow started pretty weak, as well, but I think even Arrow was better 5 episodes in than Agents. Granted, I don't think they'd gotten to the Huntress yet, which was the low point. Last week had so many great Easter eggs that they can use; Metamorpho Chemical company, the container ship Amazo, and of course, **SPOILERS** Ras Al'Gul, mother farkers!


I don't think Arrow started out as weak as AoS did. I think it helped that they started right away with a concept that was meant to go a full season (the list) and put it in a format that could be done on a per episode basis. I also like the bit by bit reveal of what happened on the island. That was a very smart move by the writers since they don't have to go back and retcon stuff they showed in the first few episodes as flashbacks, they can just add to the flashbacks. The other thing that helped Arrow is that the characters seemed to start with actual personalities that are being built upon rather than starting with a cardboard cutout that they try to paint a personality on as they go the way AoS seems to be doing.
 
2013-10-29 09:56:41 PM
I was more entertained by the 7-minute preview of Almost Human than I've been watching Agents of Shield so far. I stopped watching last week's episode half way through out of boredom.

Show's too much Smallville, not enough Marvel movie universe.
 
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