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(The Atlantic)   Marco Rubio is following Mitt Romney's path to the GOP nomination: win moderates with reform proposals, win hard-liners by shamelessly renouncing them   (theatlantic.com ) divider line
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2013-10-29 11:29:31 AM  
Meanwhile the Democrats, lambasting the GOP for using old, worn out tactics and laughing at them for living in past glory, are readying Hillary Clinton for another presidential run, not realizing the irony.
 
2013-10-29 11:30:14 AM  

rjakobi: Meanwhile the Democrats, lambasting the GOP for using old, worn out tactics and laughing at them for living in past glory, are readying Hillary Clinton for another presidential run, not realizing the irony.


Let's wait till we have a primary to jump to such conclusions, okay?
 
2013-10-29 11:30:49 AM  

rjakobi: Meanwhile the Democrats, lambasting the GOP for using old, worn out tactics and laughing at them for living in past glory, are readying Hillary Clinton for another presidential run, not realizing the irony.


Hillary isn't going to run.
 
2013-10-29 11:31:28 AM  

ikanreed: rjakobi: Meanwhile the Democrats, lambasting the GOP for using old, worn out tactics and laughing at them for living in past glory, are readying Hillary Clinton for another presidential run, not realizing the irony.

Let's wait till we have a primary to jump to such conclusions, okay?


Then it would be jumping to a conclusion, you can't wait to before you jump. takes all the fun out.
 
2013-10-29 11:31:29 AM  
There was an article I read a while ago, back during the presidential election, that basically argued conservatives don't see political lying as a liability. They see it along the lines of "If you aren't lying, you aren't trying hard enough." So ultimately there was no real way to penetrate the information bubble and affect these voters with any number of facts or quotes, because they never truly cared in the first place. They're coming from a political position where they're already convinced of their own superiority, and anything done as a means to advance those positions is inherently good.
 
2013-10-29 11:32:17 AM  

bmongar: ikanreed: rjakobi: Meanwhile the Democrats, lambasting the GOP for using old, worn out tactics and laughing at them for living in past glory, are readying Hillary Clinton for another presidential run, not realizing the irony.

Let's wait till we have a primary to jump to such conclusions, okay?

Then it would be jumping to a conclusion, you can't wait to before you jump. takes all the fun out.


Seems relevant:

danceswithfat.files.wordpress.com
 
2013-10-29 11:33:23 AM  

James!: rjakobi: Meanwhile the Democrats, lambasting the GOP for using old, worn out tactics and laughing at them for living in past glory, are readying Hillary Clinton for another presidential run, not realizing the irony.

Hillary isn't going to run.


But, she won't not run until the Republicans have gone all apoplexy.
 
2013-10-29 11:33:33 AM  
...and he can win Publisher's Clearing House by affixing all those stamps to the little card in the right order!

/just as likely
 
2013-10-29 11:33:39 AM  
So, a day that ends in -Y?
 
2013-10-29 11:34:56 AM  

Markus5: James!: rjakobi: Meanwhile the Democrats, lambasting the GOP for using old, worn out tactics and laughing at them for living in past glory, are readying Hillary Clinton for another presidential run, not realizing the irony.

Hillary isn't going to run.

But, she won't not run until the Republicans have gone all apoplexy.


The republicans have certainly started to run against her.
 
2013-10-29 11:35:18 AM  

bmongar: ikanreed: rjakobi: Meanwhile the Democrats, lambasting the GOP for using old, worn out tactics and laughing at them for living in past glory, are readying Hillary Clinton for another presidential run, not realizing the irony.

Let's wait till we have a primary to jump to such conclusions, okay?

Then it would be jumping to a conclusion, you can't wait to before you jump. takes all the fun out.


No, it would still be jumping to conclusions until the end of the primary.  But at this point we don't even know if she's going to do that.
 
2013-10-29 11:36:59 AM  

James!: rjakobi: Meanwhile the Democrats, lambasting the GOP for using old, worn out tactics and laughing at them for living in past glory, are readying Hillary Clinton for another presidential run, not realizing the irony.

Hillary isn't going to run.


I think she should... and then pull out at the most opportune time in a giant "FOOL YOUUUUU!"  Just to give the GOP some Hillary-hate blueballs again like what happened in 2008.
 
2013-10-29 11:37:03 AM  
I'm more of a fan of Elizabeth Warren than Hillary.

I'd like to see Clinton, Warren, and Franken give it a shot. They all seem to be quite capable.

Clinton would be a "Benghazi!" shiat show.
 
2013-10-29 11:37:51 AM  
Serious Black:

Then it would be jumping to a conclusion, you can't wait to before you jump. takes all the fun out.

Seems relevant:

[danceswithfat.files.wordpress.com image 500x469]



I've always been a little curious about what goes on when landing on the "Go Wild" square.
 
2013-10-29 11:38:22 AM  

rjakobi: Meanwhile the Democrats, lambasting the GOP for using old, worn out tactics and laughing at them for living in past glory, are readying Hillary Clinton for another presidential run, not realizing the irony.


But I thought libs were afraid of strong conservative women running for office.
 
2013-10-29 11:38:44 AM  

Barry Lyndon's Annuity Cheque: There was an article I read a while ago, back during the presidential election, that basically argued conservatives don't see political lying as a liability. They see it along the lines of "If you aren't lying, you aren't trying hard enough." So ultimately there was no real way to penetrate the information bubble and affect these voters with any number of facts or quotes, because they never truly cared in the first place. They're coming from a political position where they're already convinced of their own superiority, and anything done as a means to advance those positions is inherently good.


I'm sure this is ultimately what the government shutdown and debt ceiling debacles were really about. President Obama enacting significant parts of his legislative agenda is wrong because he never should have been allowed to be president in the first place. The power he wields is illegitimate in their eyes. Obamacare is an illegitimate law and program. The only way they'd be willing to let him stay on as president is if he agreed to be a ceremonial figurehead for their legitimate government. That's why I expect the government will shut down again in 78 days, and that's why I expect the House to impeach Obama before his replacement is elected.
 
2013-10-29 11:38:44 AM  
So... Archer 2016?
 
2013-10-29 11:38:57 AM  

James!: Markus5: James!: rjakobi: Meanwhile the Democrats, lambasting the GOP for using old, worn out tactics and laughing at them for living in past glory, are readying Hillary Clinton for another presidential run, not realizing the irony.

Hillary isn't going to run.

But, she won't not run until the Republicans have gone all apoplexy.

The republicans have certainly started to run against her.


Indeed.  Which is, IMHO, exactly the plan.
 
2013-10-29 11:39:20 AM  
assets.nydailynews.com

Should have the Recycling Workers Union vote locked up.
 
2013-10-29 11:41:40 AM  

MarshHawk: Serious Black:

Then it would be jumping to a conclusion, you can't wait to before you jump. takes all the fun out.

Seems relevant:

[danceswithfat.files.wordpress.com image 500x469]


I've always been a little curious about what goes on when landing on the "Go Wild" square.


I am more interested in learning how one looses a turn.
 
2013-10-29 11:42:01 AM  

Barry Lyndon's Annuity Cheque: There was an article I read a while ago, back during the presidential election, that basically argued conservatives don't see political lying as a liability. They see it along the lines of "If you aren't lying, you aren't trying hard enough." So ultimately there was no real way to penetrate the information bubble and affect these voters with any number of facts or quotes, because they never truly cared in the first place. They're coming from a political position where they're already convinced of their own superiority, and anything done as a means to advance those positions is inherently good.


Exactly. Their motivations are not about electing a good candidate. They are striving to uphold and implement an ideology that validates them and makes them feel good.

Forget your facts and rational actions. If arguments against their political philosophy don't offer the comfort nor safety and instead confront them with being wrong their whole life, they won't even process them.

Radical reactionary conservatism is about appeasing and comforting with easy answers, instead of doing what is right.
 
2013-10-29 11:42:03 AM  
I thought that even gayer version of Liberace was going for that nom?
 
2013-10-29 11:42:04 AM  

rjakobi: Meanwhile the Democrats, lambasting the GOP for using old, worn out tactics and laughing at them for living in past glory, are readying Hillary Clinton for another presidential run, not realizing the irony.


This is what Republicans believe. They fell for it in 2008, and they'll fall for it again.
 
2013-10-29 11:42:11 AM  
He does share Romney's inherently unique trait to boldly lie without a hint of remorse or trepidation.    It's a real talent in politics.
 
2013-10-29 11:44:21 AM  
I hope at least that Rubio went out and bought himself a new Etch-a-Sketch.  Mitt's was pretty worn out at last inspection...
 
2013-10-29 11:46:19 AM  
i.imgur.com
 
2013-10-29 11:47:13 AM  

Jackson Herring: [i.imgur.com image 429x241]


That's my favorite one
 
2013-10-29 11:47:41 AM  

coeyagi: [assets.nydailynews.com image 635x427]

Should have the Recycling Workers Union vote locked up.


Awkward stagecraft is just a technical foul. Boy howdy was that awkward
 
2013-10-29 11:49:36 AM  
Romney won moderates????
 
2013-10-29 11:49:58 AM  
Well, at least Rubio has the benefit of never having his reform proposals actually passing or working, otherwise he would have a hell of a time apologizing for pursuing them. Nope, his big legislation dies on the vine thanks to obstruction from his own party so he doesn't have to worry about the actual results of the programs enraging either portion of his political party.

Obama running on Romney's record (AKA, "let's do what he showed worked while he was governor instead of what he wants to try now") was a bit surreal.
 
2013-10-29 11:50:10 AM  

JusticeandIndependence: Jackson Herring: [i.imgur.com image 429x241]

That's my favorite one


Waterbate.
 
2013-10-29 11:53:41 AM  
www.madaboutgardening.com

I found him a nice pair.
/why can i not re-size images?
 
2013-10-29 11:54:52 AM  
Actually, for the Republican party, denouncing your very own positions to both court the sane Republicans and Tea Party faction works mainly because whenever someone brings ups the inconsistencies in their message, the story then immediately shifts to how mean and unfair that person is (whether it's a Democrat or, god forbid they do their job, the "left leaning media").

And nothing unites the entire bootstrappy spectrum of Republicans than someone who's being a meanie to another Republican (ESPECIALLY if it's a "leftie media type"), regardless of how many twirls and pirouettes that Republican did to court whoever he was target marketing at any given time.
 
2013-10-29 11:55:03 AM  

MFAWG: rjakobi: Meanwhile the Democrats, lambasting the GOP for using old, worn out tactics and laughing at them for living in past glory, are readying Hillary Clinton for another presidential run, not realizing the irony.

This is what Republicans believe. They fell for it in 2008, and they'll fall for it again.


That's true. Although I'm curious what position Hillary proposed to appeal to moderates, then shamelessly renounce.
 
2013-10-29 11:55:40 AM  

meat0918: Romney won moderates????


I was going to say the same thing, except with "hard-liners" in the place of "moderates".
 
2013-10-29 11:58:25 AM  
Today's GOP: Failing Upward
 
2013-10-29 11:58:26 AM  

Maud Dib: JusticeandIndependence: Jackson Herring: [i.imgur.com image 429x241]

That's my favorite one

Waterbate.


Since the media still hasn't come up with any clever replacement for the "-gate" suffix to denote political scandals (hey, it's only been over forty years!), if they really want to make a scandal out of that, it would have to be called "Watergate." But that's taken. What to do, what to do? Maybe come up with some new scandal nomenclature that doesn't forever tarnish the name of a fine hotel?

The only use of that post-Nixon that was even remotely clever was Bill Clinton's "Whitewatergate."
 
2013-10-29 12:00:10 PM  

coeyagi: [assets.nydailynews.com image 635x427]

Should have the Recycling Workers Union vote locked up.


I forgot about that moment! lol!

Ah! GOP, thanks for all the laughs. I hope the 2016 election season is as joyful as the 2012. (Though last I heard the GOP is cutting down on the number of debates - bummer!).

I expect we will hear a lot of the now famous line (or variations there of ..) "you do know we can hear you .... right?"
 
2013-10-29 12:00:35 PM  
i.imgur.com
 
2013-10-29 12:01:14 PM  
I can't even begin to guess who the GOP front runners will be for 2016.
 
2013-10-29 12:02:13 PM  

James!: rjakobi: Meanwhile the Democrats, lambasting the GOP for using old, worn out tactics and laughing at them for living in past glory, are readying Hillary Clinton for another presidential run, not realizing the irony.

Hillary isn't going to run.


Doesn't she almost have to? She'll have to play some kind of prominent role in the whole shebang.
 
2013-10-29 12:04:48 PM  

thismomentinblackhistory: James!: rjakobi: Meanwhile the Democrats, lambasting the GOP for using old, worn out tactics and laughing at them for living in past glory, are readying Hillary Clinton for another presidential run, not realizing the irony.

Hillary isn't going to run.

Doesn't she almost have to? She'll have to play some kind of prominent role in the whole shebang.


Maybe as kingmaker, but I doubt she wants to run for office. I could see her setting up her daughter for a shot at political office tho.
 
2013-10-29 12:05:17 PM  

thismomentinblackhistory: James!: rjakobi: Meanwhile the Democrats, lambasting the GOP for using old, worn out tactics and laughing at them for living in past glory, are readying Hillary Clinton for another presidential run, not realizing the irony.

Hillary isn't going to run.

Doesn't she almost have to? She'll have to play some kind of prominent role in the whole shebang.


She had a prominent role. Look for her to get more involved in international humanitarian issues like Bill.
 
2013-10-29 12:06:12 PM  

Weaver95: I can't even begin to guess who the GOP front runners will be for 2016.


If I could have it my way:

Palin, Perry, Santorum, Gingrich, Bachmann

(A girl can dream).
 
2013-10-29 12:06:29 PM  

Weaver95: I can't even begin to guess who the GOP front runners will be for 2016.


www.debbieschlussel.com
 
2013-10-29 12:09:07 PM  

rjakobi: Meanwhile the Democrats, lambasting the GOP for using old, worn out tactics and laughing at them for living in past glory, are readying Hillary Clinton for another presidential run, not realizing the irony.


She's a flip-flopper? On what issue(s), may I ask?
 
2013-10-29 12:14:52 PM  
Hillary aside, Rubio is a bag of dicks who is going to get teabagged into the ground before he gets in sight of the nomination
 
2013-10-29 12:18:34 PM  

Weaver95: I can't even begin to guess who the GOP front runners will be for 2016.


All of them.
 
2013-10-29 12:25:38 PM  
He looks thirsty.  Don't you think he looks thirsty?
 
2013-10-29 12:28:27 PM  

Zeb Hesselgresser: Weaver95: I can't even begin to guess who the GOP front runners will be for 2016.

[www.debbieschlussel.com image 288x216]


Pence? You mean the tool who only barely won the gubernatorial election in Indiana last year while Romney carried the state by a double digit margin?

Not likely.
 
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