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(Times of Israel)   Ex-IAEA chief says Iran two weeks away from having weapons-grade uranium, Henriksdal chair and Linnmon/Nipen table   (timesofisrael.com) divider line 82
    More: Scary, International Atomic Energy Agency, Iran, Ali Larijani, Tehran, uranium enrichment, Deputy Director of the Federal Bureau of Investigation, Henriksdal, critical level  
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2013-10-29 09:38:34 AM
They will never get a working bomb assembled -- not with those little hex wrenches and plastic fasteners...
 
2013-10-29 10:02:12 AM
Unlikely

This is the same Iran that cannot protect itself from malware

If they can't master something as simple as NOT USING WINDOWS for secure nuclear testing, what else do you think they are shiatty at?
 
2013-10-29 10:12:51 AM

Candygram4Mongo: They will never get a working bomb assembled -- not with those little hex wrenches and plastic fasteners...


And with those instructions? pfft...

/besides, they'll be missing a screw
 
2013-10-29 10:22:39 AM
One of the Shirk Brothers became an IAEA chief?!?
 
2013-10-29 10:22:56 AM

cman: Unlikely

This is the same Iran that cannot protect itself from malware

If they can't master something as simple as NOT USING WINDOWS for secure nuclear testing, what else do you think they are shiatty at?


Those were Siemens industrial controllers, actually.  And it turns out that no one could protect themselves from Stuxnet - it ended up infecting a metric crapload of them, and not just in Iran.  Yes, a PC was the vector.  As it was in all other infected sites.  Corporations run Windows.
 
2013-10-29 11:07:21 AM
Curse you Hans Brix!
 
2013-10-29 11:08:03 AM
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2013-10-29 11:08:12 AM
Only TWO MINUTES LEFT!

We're running out of TIME!
Right, neocons?
 
2013-10-29 11:08:57 AM
they been saying this for decades. Israel just getting nervous now that Iran has been saying nicer things
 
2013-10-29 11:09:19 AM
I'm sure it's true this time.
 
2013-10-29 11:10:20 AM
 
2013-10-29 11:10:47 AM
"two weeks away" = Two years ago.
 
2013-10-29 11:11:13 AM

Candygram4Mongo: They will never get a working bomb assembled -- not with those little hex wrenches and plastic fasteners...


www.oralchelation.com
 
2013-10-29 11:13:16 AM
What you did there subby, I see it, and I'll beat you up with my new IKEA battle droid... As soon as I can figure out these instructions.. And DAMMIT I'M MISSING A BAG OF WOOD PEGS AND SCREWS!
 
2013-10-29 11:14:11 AM
From TFA:  "But you still don't have a nuclear weapon," Heinonen added. Preparing the highly enriched uranium for a nuclear bomb would take another month or two, "assuming that someone has all the knowledge." After that, assembling an actual nuclear weapon that can be delivered with a ballistic missile would take perhaps another year, he said.


Omigod, "perhaps another year"?!?!   When put into the context of the entirety of human history, that's practically yesterday!!!  It's coming right for us!
 
2013-10-29 11:14:26 AM
Hmm, hypothetically, if we're going to have a nuclear Iran, do we want to be friends or enemies?
 
2013-10-29 11:16:47 AM

HotIgneous Intruder: Only TWO MINUTES LEFT!

We're running out of TIME!
Right, neocons?


No its just crazy alamist rhetoric- wait are we talking about global warming ?
 
2013-10-29 11:18:24 AM
Does anyone actually realize how complicated a nuclear weapon is?

With uranium the only bomb you'll be making is a fission gun type with at best an approximate yield of the bombs dropped over Japan. We have conventional weapons in the US arsenal that almost match that.
 
2013-10-29 11:18:31 AM
Why are they selling bombs at IKEA?
 
2013-10-29 11:18:47 AM
They're using standard hex wrenches and they need metric.
Doh! Two-year delay!
 
2013-10-29 11:18:51 AM
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2013-10-29 11:20:34 AM
This ex-IAEA guy wouldn't happen to be Thomas Friedman, would it?
 
2013-10-29 11:21:25 AM
So is it bombing time yet?
 
2013-10-29 11:22:00 AM

ChipNASA: [img1.imagesbn.com image 260x401]


Was that the kid who bought all the hundreds of smoke detectors and took out the radioactive parts in his garden shed?
 
2013-10-29 11:23:35 AM
Here's the article about the Radioactive Boy Scout.
It's a fantastic read.
 
2013-10-29 11:23:50 AM

IdBeCrazyIf: Does anyone actually realize how complicated a nuclear weapon is?

With uranium the only bomb you'll be making is a fission gun type with at best an approximate yield of the bombs dropped over Japan. We have conventional weapons in the US arsenal that almost match that.


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2013-10-29 11:24:27 AM
Again? Does anyone still take this crap seriously? Seems like the big scary Iranians have been minutes away from destroying the free world for a solid decade.  At this rate, they'll get themselves a viable bomb about 5 minutes before the Sun finally burns the Earth to a crisp.
 
2013-10-29 11:26:02 AM

jakomo002: IdBeCrazyIf: Does anyone actually realize how complicated a nuclear weapon is?

With uranium the only bomb you'll be making is a fission gun type with at best an approximate yield of the bombs dropped over Japan. We have conventional weapons in the US arsenal that almost match that.

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And the bad part is that asshole wanted us to give him those MOABs, and Mountain Crushers because he's worried Iran will ever actually 1. Build a bomb and more importantly 2. Actually be able to deliver it anywhere
 
2013-10-29 11:29:23 AM
Israel has been crying wolf over Iran since before 2000. If they are so damned concerned, they should take action and face the consequences instead of trying to weasel other countries into doing their dirty work.
 
2013-10-29 11:32:25 AM

IdBeCrazyIf: Does anyone actually realize how complicated a nuclear weapon is?

With uranium the only bomb you'll be making is a fission gun type with at best an approximate yield of the bombs dropped over Japan. We have conventional weapons in the US arsenal that almost match that.


And we pulled it off using 1940's technonlogy. If you want something to go boom ie the gadget, that's pretty straighforward. If you want it small enough to actually be deliverable, that takes work.

/we had the advantage of complete air superiority and a huge bomber.
 
2013-10-29 11:38:22 AM
Dear Mr. and/or Ms. Submitter,

Your headline appeals to my sense of humor.

I thank you
 
2013-10-29 11:39:11 AM
If someone's going to destroy the world, I hope they get on with it before I do my Christmas shopping. I don't want to go to the mall if I don't have to.
 
2013-10-29 11:41:34 AM

IdBeCrazyIf: And the bad part is that asshole wanted us to give him those MOABs, and Mountain Crushers because he's worried Iran will ever actually 1. Build a bomb and more importantly 2. Actually be able to deliver it anywhere



I say if it's an existential threat, he only gets existential weapons.  Kierkegaard pamphlets and depressing poetry.
 
2013-10-29 11:42:56 AM

jakomo002: I say if it's an existential threat, he only gets existential weapons. Kierkegaard pamphlets and depressing poetry.


Lets ship all the unsold Pop Music Cd's and let them know they can air drop them, give it time and they'll surrender unconditionally eventually.
 
2013-10-29 11:43:07 AM

whither_apophis: IdBeCrazyIf: Does anyone actually realize how complicated a nuclear weapon is?

With uranium the only bomb you'll be making is a fission gun type with at best an approximate yield of the bombs dropped over Japan. We have conventional weapons in the US arsenal that almost match that.

And we pulled it off using 1940's technonlogy. If you want something to go boom ie the gadget, that's pretty straighforward. If you want it small enough to actually be deliverable, that takes work.

/we had the advantage of complete air superiority and a huge bomber.


There's no reason the Iranians couldn't cook up a spherical lensed explosive implosion bomb, either. The process is well known and off-the-shelf computing technology would make it a snap. If we could do it in the 40s, they could certainly do it now and it wouldn't be hard to keep a a small working group secret.

Only question is, what then?
Do they pop this little firecracker over Israel and risk total obliteration within about an hour's time?
People need to come down off the roof and take their meds.
Neocons only know one song ... the war one.
 
2013-10-29 11:45:30 AM

HotIgneous Intruder: There's no reason the Iranians couldn't cook up a spherical lensed explosive implosion bomb, either. The process is well known and off-the-shelf computing technology would make it a snap. If we could do it in the 40s, they could certainly do it now and it wouldn't be hard to keep a a small working group secret.


Yeah but the problem is implosion bombs require Plutonium, not Uranium. Iran ain't got none ain't gonna have none either. So yeah you are right, everyone needs to get off the roof, take a xanax and calm the fark down.
 
2013-10-29 11:45:41 AM

kindms: they been saying this for decades. Israel just getting nervous now that Iran has been saying nicer things


Pretty much. How are they supposed to get free stuff and push around an agenda that would get them into trouble in most parts of the world, without Iran being seen as the ultimate most baddest boogeyman ever. Much better to keep the rhetoric up.
 
2013-10-29 11:46:23 AM
I've got to get a new 'scrip for my eyeglasses ... lede to me looked like Ikea Chief Says Iran, etc

Ikea?
 
2013-10-29 11:48:16 AM
The last thing we want is illegal nukes, right Israel?
 
2013-10-29 11:55:20 AM

IdBeCrazyIf: Lets ship all the unsold Pop Music Cd's and let them know they can air drop them, give it time and they'll surrender unconditionally eventually.


Old Morrissey CDs and arsenic pills.
 
2013-10-29 11:57:17 AM

cman: Unlikely

This is the same Iran that cannot protect itself from malware

If they can't master something as simple as NOT USING WINDOWS for secure nuclear testing, what else do you think they are shiatty at?


So you're a shill for Iran?

Anyway, Windows isn't more or less secure than any other OS against a virus created specifically for that target (broadly speaking. I am sure some BSD version is super secure). If you don't connect your Windows PC to the internet, then any potential backdoors, or viruses roaming around is irrelevant.


The virus that got them was designed for their Siemens system only, and apparently could spread via USB sticks. And that in your world of course makes Siemens the idiots, not Iran. As Iran hasn't designed that control system.

And I'm pretty sure a company that amongst other things exports nuclear reactors aren't idiots.
 
2013-10-29 11:57:39 AM
I read that as "Ex-IKEA chief", was left disappointed
 
2013-10-29 11:58:49 AM

HotIgneous Intruder: Do they pop this little firecracker over Israel and risk total obliteration within about an hour's time?


That's the crazy thing.  The second the light goes green they launch their one nuke at a country that has hundreds already probably trained on them???

An hour is a pretty conservative estimate.  20 minutes, more likely.
 
2013-10-29 12:01:48 PM

spawn73: cman: Unlikely

This is the same Iran that cannot protect itself from malware

If they can't master something as simple as NOT USING WINDOWS for secure nuclear testing, what else do you think they are shiatty at?

So you're a shill for Iran?

Anyway, Windows isn't more or less secure than any other OS against a virus created specifically for that target (broadly speaking. I am sure some BSD version is super secure). If you don't connect your Windows PC to the internet, then any potential backdoors, or viruses roaming around is irrelevant.


The virus that got them was designed for their Siemens system only, and apparently could spread via USB sticks. And that in your world of course makes Siemens the idiots, not Iran. As Iran hasn't designed that control system.

And I'm pretty sure a company that amongst other things exports nuclear reactors aren't idiots.


No, I am a shill for Apple, not for Iran.

Apple pays me $5 every time I bash Windows. Its a great way to make money
 
2013-10-29 12:04:36 PM

IdBeCrazyIf: Yeah but the problem is implosion bombs require Plutonium, not Uranium. Iran ain't got none ain't gonna have none either. So yeah you are right, everyone needs to get off the roof, take a xanax and calm the fark down.


Actually, the implosion design requires both Pu and Uranium, so yes, pretty implausible.
The cannon thing is totally doable, though.
 
2013-10-29 12:18:22 PM
Wait WFT is a lemon/nipple table?
 
2013-10-29 12:21:26 PM

Thelyphthoric: Wait WFT is a lemon/nipple table?


All the rage at the lemon parties.
 
2013-10-29 12:25:56 PM

Thelyphthoric: Wait WFT is a lemon/nipple table?


Maybe it's used at lemon parties.

/not gonna look it up
//not for any amount of money
///nope
 
2013-10-29 12:26:36 PM

BSABSVR: Thelyphthoric: Wait WFT is a lemon/nipple table?

All the rage at the lemon parties.


shakestinyfist.jpg

/too slow
 
2013-10-29 12:39:58 PM

IdBeCrazyIf: Does anyone actually realize how complicated a nuclear weapon is?

With uranium the only bomb you'll be making is a fission gun type with at best an approximate yield of the bombs dropped over Japan. We have conventional weapons in the US arsenal that almost match that.



Yeah.. what are they thinking.   That size is worthless.
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