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2013-10-29 01:06:01 PM  
So instead of a long drive from home to work, they have a long drive from work to home?
 
2013-10-29 01:06:42 PM  
Obama is diligently working on this. Over the next few years only people in D.C. and northeast Virginia will have jobs to commute to.
 
2013-10-29 01:06:53 PM  
Doesn't their neck get sore!?!?
 
2013-10-29 01:07:08 PM  
For the record, I live ~140 miles from work. My commute takes 2 1/2-3 hours.

/but I only do it once a month.
 
2013-10-29 01:07:09 PM  

StopLurkListen: Abe Vigoda's Ghost: That's what keeps Kathy LeVeque, 31, in Chicago, too. "I'm a city person," she says.

Then get a city job.

Yes, jobs are plentiful and everywhere and are all the same and equally good and appropriate. Jobs are also secure and not at all volatile and you can count on being in the same job until you retire so base your long-term home location decisions on the job you have right at this very moment.


Then I guess they should be happy they have a job at all, and quit biatching about the commute.
 
2013-10-29 01:07:20 PM  
4 mile commute. Less than ten minutes everyday. Have a nice day.
 
2013-10-29 01:07:24 PM  

unlikely: Now write us a story about how hard those telecommuters have it


Indeed. My commute to the living room is nearly unbearable.

There was a shoe in the way this morning. Almost ruined my day!
 
2013-10-29 01:07:28 PM  

HMS_Blinkin: The My Little Pony Killer: I have a hard time feeling bad for somebody who chooses to work 35 miles away from where they live.

This.  Just move closer to your job.  Crazy concept, I know.


What precisely were we supposed to do when my wife worked in Downtown Houston and I worked in the Energy Corridor, 17 miles west on I-10?
 
2013-10-29 01:08:57 PM  
I've never heard the term "reverse cummute" before.  I can only assume that "forward commuting" means that you are commuting INTO an urban area.  Okay.  I can see that.  And I did once have a commute that literally was the deffinition of the reverse.  Like 60 miles, the traffic going the other way was always congested, and I just drove right on.

But nowadays, my commute couldn't exactly be defined either way.  I drive through an urban area.  So for the 1st half, I get stuck in traffic, until I make it through Trenton.  Then I cross the bridge, and the traffic coming from PA is a gridlock trying to get to Trenton.

So what's the cool new term for that sort of commute?
 
2013-10-29 01:09:57 PM  

El Morro: HMS_Blinkin: The My Little Pony Killer: I have a hard time feeling bad for somebody who chooses to work 35 miles away from where they live.

This.  Just move closer to your job.  Crazy concept, I know.

Yeah... because it's just that easy.  You ass.

In any case, I had a 3 hour round trip commute for a while.  It was hell.   My condolences to those of you on that kind of grind. These days, if a song starts on the radio when I get in my car, it's still playing when I pull into the parking lot at my job.  It's tough to put into words just how wonderful a short commute is.  It's a quality of life issue, really.


I never said it was easy.  But the people interviewed in TFA have, at least if we can judge from such quotes as "I'm a city person," chosen this lifestyle.  As I said above, if someone prefers a certain area for a reason, that's fine.  And if they're willing to commute in order to enjoy the area they want to live in, that's fine too.

But in life you often can't have it both ways and that's the case here.  The people in TFA want to live in the city while working in the suburbs and they don't like commuting.  Well.....those goals aren't compatible.

Look, I'm very sympathetic to people who have no choice WRT long commutes due to economic circumstances.  But that's not the people in TFA.  They're complaining about a commute that they chose for themselves, and that's annoying.
 
2013-10-29 01:10:06 PM  
I have a 30 minute commute for a 20 mile drive on the goddamn 405.

/smug
 
2013-10-29 01:10:55 PM  
I reverse commute from Seattle to Bellevue. I did it cause that's where I found a job. And no way in hell am I moving to the Eastside. My old commute was a 15 minute walk. That job sucked,so I'll put up with going over the I-90 bridge twice a day.
 
2013-10-29 01:11:46 PM  

BEER_ME_in_CT: Why you would want to live in the city and commute out of it is beyond me.


I was raised in the sticks and now I live in the city.  I understand why people would do both.

What I don't get is the exurbs.  All of the traffic and high real estate prices of the city combined with the distances and boredom of the country.  A disaster.
 
2013-10-29 01:12:24 PM  

Swedgin: It's still worth it because once you're home you're in the city, and your meal/entertainment choices are much better than Applebee's or Chili's on a Friday night.


Unless you happen to be a hiker or other type of nature lover.
 
2013-10-29 01:13:02 PM  

durbnpoisn: But nowadays, my commute couldn't exactly be defined either way.  I drive through an urban area.  So for the 1st half, I get stuck in traffic, until I make it through Trenton.  Then I cross the bridge, and the traffic coming from PA is a gridlock trying to get to Trenton.

So what's the cool new term for that sort of commute?


Why the fark would you live in New Jersey if your job is in Pennsylvania? Spouse works in NYC?
 
2013-10-29 01:13:32 PM  

Swedgin: It's still worth it because once you're home you're in the city, and your meal/entertainment choices are much better than Applebee's or Chili's on a Friday night.


I bought a house out in the suburbs. I'm a 10 minute walk to the commuter rail into downtown Boston. 30 minute ride. I used to just hang out in town after work and then take a train home later in the evening. Best of both worlds.

Anyhow, the article amused me. I love it when people say they're "city people" but are annoyed about having to share roads and other public resources with a lot of other people.
 
2013-10-29 01:15:18 PM  
Hmm... I really should look into this electric car thingy.

And for those wondering, it's about 93 miles one way.  So I drive ~185 miles a day.  Yikes.
 
2013-10-29 01:15:36 PM  

Disaster Transport: Actually, the crappy commute in the Chicago area is the suburb-to-suburb, east - west commute. It took at least 50+ minutes for me to get to my old job, 22 miles away. I would have loved to take the train, but the train system is just radial in and out of the city, so that meant one 55 minute ride into the city and another 45 minute ride out to the other suburb. Until we accept that people need mass transit from suburb to suburb it will continue to be a problem. I will never ever take another job that's over a 30 minute commute ever again, even if trains are an option. I miss quality time a home too much.

/new job is much closer
//traffic makes people crazy
///slashies crazy


Or we could, you know, not keep trying to build out suburbs farther and farther away from everything. It just isn't feasible to have a mass transit system that keeps up that well with urban sprawl. And since we have a bunch of empty space that's already well connected that would be a better avenue for development.
 
2013-10-29 01:16:01 PM  

HailRobonia: If you;'re a woman and live in the city but commute to the country for your cattle herding job, does that make you a reverse cowgirl?


So a reverse commuter would be, you lay on your back and your girlfriend mounts your turgid member, facing away from you whilst doing thy NYT crossword puzzle on her Kindle and drinking a chai latte?

\fap
 
2013-10-29 01:17:52 PM  

brantgoose: Reverse commuting sounds almost good to me. I've seen the highways during rush hour--backed up for blocks in one direction only with scarcely a car going the other way. If you're in the car going the other way, life is sweet, man!

It is not enough for that successful man that other people have to fail, they have to be seen to fail. To paraphrase a famous quip.

Mind you, I don't commute at all. I walk to and from work, 2.5 kilometers each way in roughly the time it would take to go by bus. Even better than driving past people stuck in a traffic jam--walking past people stuck in a traffic jam. But I try to avoid traffic altogether as I am a bit asthmatic and the smog makes me gag sometimes.

Even picking my way through the snow in other people's footprints is better than being jammed in a bus full of hot people in winter clothing that turns the air into something you'd expect in a laundry or in a mud room full of sweaters and mittens and wet boots.



I like your honesty. I appreciate how you found a way to make your commute work for you. Despite your attempt at gloating, you acknowledge that there are drawbacks to your choice and believe in full disclosure. I look forward to reading your newsletter and will buy cookies from your girl scouts. Sir, Ma'am, I salute you.
 
2013-10-29 01:18:04 PM  

Cold_Sassy: Swedgin: It's still worth it because once you're home you're in the city, and your meal/entertainment choices are much better than Applebee's or Chili's on a Friday night.

Unless you happen to be a hiker or other type of nature lover.


Good point.  It takes me up to an hour to get to the mountains on Saturday.  If I lived in the burbs, it would only take 45 minutes.
 
2013-10-29 01:18:29 PM  

ph0rk: Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: ph0rk: If you can't guess what "reverse commuter" means, subby isn't at the top of the list of people you should be mad at.

/not subby

Commuter - one who commutes to work

Reverse commuter - one who... commutes to home? doesn't commute at all?

If you can smell plastic melting, you're probably thinking too hard.

Also: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=reverse+commuter&l=1


I don't think anyone is confused about the concept, we're just poking fun at the phrase.
 
2013-10-29 01:19:07 PM  

HMS_Blinkin: The My Little Pony Killer: I have a hard time feeling bad for somebody who chooses to work 35 miles away from where they live.

This.  Just move closer to your job.  Crazy concept, I know.


Also a cunning plan, but who can afford to move every time they get a new job?   The days when you'd work at one place for 30 years are over.
 
2013-10-29 01:19:58 PM  

nekom: Stop making up unnecessary words.  This isn't "reverse" commuting, it's commuting.  Unless you work from home you commute, no matter where that's to or from.


George approves this message.

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2013-10-29 01:20:53 PM  

dittybopper: Jim_Callahan: Wouldn't a reverse commute be driving away from work at the start of the work-day, then returning to work at the end of the work-day, i.e. the night shift?

This is just a normal commute, the destination being in the suburbs doesn't actually make it not a commute.

This.  Your commute is scalar, not a vector.


Please don't do that.
 
2013-10-29 01:22:13 PM  
I did my time and spent something like 3 years with a horrible car commute. I spent 1 of those 3 years constantly looking for work closer to home. Fortunately, I live in an area saturated with jobs in my field, so this go-around, I found a job that involves a 40 minute commute on mass transit and have scoped out routes so I can sit and veg out en route to and from work.

I grew up in a large city and Dad had a 30 minute train commute. He'd come home and be a Dad to us. I feel very sorry for those children whose dads (and moms) come home in time to say, "Go to bed, kids."  Do they really think their children have a better life? Cities are just not that bad to grow up in.
 
2013-10-29 01:22:45 PM  

bdub77: With a picture of someone slogging through their terrible commute:

[media.npr.org image 850x476]
Nice brooch. Beats by Dre guy looks like he needs to shovel some more coffee into his mouth.


Agreed, nobody standing, plenty of room to stretch out...where do I sign up?
 
2013-10-29 01:23:24 PM  

nekom: Stop making up unnecessary words.  This isn't "reverse" commuting, it's commuting.  Unless you work from home you commute, no matter where that's to or from.


I was reading the article to see what the hell "reverse commuting was. Then I was wondering if this was like "reverse racism" in that there is nothing "reverse" about it.

I guess so.
 
2013-10-29 01:24:01 PM  

dittybopper: El Morro: HMS_Blinkin: The My Little Pony Killer: I have a hard time feeling bad for somebody who chooses to work 35 miles away from where they live.

This.  Just move closer to your job.  Crazy concept, I know.

Yeah... because it's just that easy.  You ass.

In any case, I had a 3 hour round trip commute for a while.  It was hell.   My condolences to those of you on that kind of grind. These days, if a song starts on the radio when I get in my car, it's still playing when I pull into the parking lot at my job.  It's tough to put into words just how wonderful a short commute is.  It's a quality of life issue, really.

Meh.

I spend 2 hours a day in my car, an hour to work in the morning, and an hour back home.

In the morning, traffic is light, and I either chat on the radio with my local ham radio buddies, or I listen to Morning Edition on NPR to catch up on the news.  On the ride home, I get on the long-range radio if propagation is there, or I listen to All Things Considered.

Just yesterday I spent most of my commute "talking" to Wayne N5YFC down near Baton Rouge, LA.  I put talking in quotes because we were using Morse.  Anyway, being able to talk to new and interesting people and places adds a bit of excitement to the commute.

The only time it's "brutal" is in the winter when I have to drive slow and it takes twice as long, and just occasionally when there is a particularly bad accident.


Using an iambic keyer or a regular cw key?
 
2013-10-29 01:24:11 PM  
You have to admit, "reverse commuting" does sound a lot better than "fark the environment."
 
2013-10-29 01:24:31 PM  

lordargent: My area, in a nutshell.

Commuting: Live where the property is affordable, commute to work (an area where property is expensive and salaries are higher).

VS

Reverse Commuting: Live where the property is expensive, commute to work (an area where property is cheaper and salaries are lower).

[synapticnulship.com image 425x340]


Live where it's expensive and work where it's expensive.

www.trekstop.com

Profit.

6 miles... all on the greenbelt so I don't douche it up by riding in the ROAD and disobeying traffic laws.

/ducks
 
2013-10-29 01:26:10 PM  

van1ty: Hmm... I really should look into this electric car thingy.

And for those wondering, it's about 93 miles one way.  So I drive ~185 miles a day.  Yikes.


I would suggest moving. nobody needs to live that far away unless it is temporary thing. Accounting for vacation you could easily top 215,000 miles in just 5 years. Is your job paying you enough to buy a new car every 5 years vs working somewhere local for less money?
 
2013-10-29 01:27:00 PM  

under a mountain: Agreed, nobody standing, plenty of room to stretch out...where do I sign up?


Problem is those reverse commute trains usually only run once an hour, and there's no express trains.
 
2013-10-29 01:27:23 PM  

LandOfChocolate: nekom: Stop making up unnecessary words.  This isn't "reverse" commuting, it's commuting.  Unless you work from home you commute, no matter where that's to or from.

Don't be thick.

It used to be that people commuted in from the suburbs to jobs in the city.  The other way during rush hour generally saw lighter traffic.

Apparently that is not the case any more.


Nice reverse reply.
 
2013-10-29 01:29:02 PM  
The problem is that people work 5 days a week, 50 weeks a year. They cram enjoyment of the different into two weeks, generally two weeks shared by a bunch of cortisol OD'ing people in the same boat.

Quit your job, burn your possessions, and go for a walkabout.
 
2013-10-29 01:29:14 PM  
Subby is a reverse genius
 
2013-10-29 01:29:22 PM  

Disaster Transport: Actually, the crappy commute in the Chicago area is the suburb-to-suburb, east - west commute

almost every single pair of points on a map you could imagine


/Milwaukeean
//12 mile commute, Bay View to Glendale, about 15 min. morning, 25 min. afternoon
 
2013-10-29 01:30:19 PM  

HailRobonia: Gunny Highway: I love my commute.  Two 30-40 minute train rides a day  allow me to listen to podcasts, music, or read.  All that said, I really miss driving to work.

For me, time-wise, public transportation makes sense. But the big problem with public transportation is the public. It's hard to relax and enjoy my commute when we're all crammed into a train like cattle, surrounded by jerk-ass people who won't move further into the car, stink, cough and sneeze all over the place, jam you in the back with their over-sized purses, smash you with their giant backpacks, and other assorted unpleasantness.


That is all part of the process, I guess.  I try to sit in the Quiet Car every day which people respect for the most part.  The conductors do a good job of policing people who do not respect the rules which I appreciate.

The scenery is nice and the ride is smooth.
 
2013-10-29 01:30:56 PM  

Rapmaster2000: Cold_Sassy: Swedgin: It's still worth it because once you're home you're in the city, and your meal/entertainment choices are much better than Applebee's or Chili's on a Friday night.

Unless you happen to be a hiker or other type of nature lover.

Good point.  It takes me up to an hour to get to the mountains on Saturday.  If I lived in the burbs, it would only take 45 minutes.


I'm talking about doing it every day to decompress and exercise the dogs, not some hipster weekend hobby.
 
2013-10-29 01:32:07 PM  
Working from home, getting a kick.
 
2013-10-29 01:32:23 PM  
My commute is pretty tough. Sometimes the walk from my desk in the living room to the liquor cabinet on the other side of the room feels so long that I don't start drinking from my excellent whiskey collection until two or even three in the afternoon.
 
2013-10-29 01:32:40 PM  
Simple mistakes being made as far as I can see, you're all getting your cheap Fruit of the Loom shorts wadded up in your waxy folds of stinking genitalia for no reason.
Your assumption that reverse commuting refers to something called a 'commute' done backwards is laughable. Any fool knows that Subby is referring to a reverse Etummoc.
 
2013-10-29 01:34:00 PM  

KAzaMM: 4 mile commute. Less than ten minutes everyday. Have a nice day.


*nucks*
 
2013-10-29 01:34:02 PM  

Cold_Sassy: Rapmaster2000: Cold_Sassy: Swedgin: It's still worth it because once you're home you're in the city, and your meal/entertainment choices are much better than Applebee's or Chili's on a Friday night.

Unless you happen to be a hiker or other type of nature lover.

Good point.  It takes me up to an hour to get to the mountains on Saturday.  If I lived in the burbs, it would only take 45 minutes.

I'm talking about doing it every day to decompress and exercise the dogs, not some hipster weekend hobby.


Hiking on occasion makes you a hipster.  Got it.

Stop using that word.
 
2013-10-29 01:35:01 PM  
People who live in the city can avoid a long commute only by working in the (same) city. People who live in the suburbs pretty much can't avoid a painful commute, because even if you're job is also in the 'burbs, it's likely to be in a different part of the sprawl. Being sprawled out is, after all, the whole point of suburbs.

Some people have suggested moving to live near work. That can work in the city, because you can restrict your job search to that city. Now that the days of lifetime employment are over, though, an attempt to operate that way in the suburbs would be a little like the old Steve Martin routine:
I know a lot of you people are sitting out there saying to yourselves, "Steve - you're a rambling guy. Is it tough for you, traveling from town to town, staying in different hotels every night, all alone, not with your friends?" Well, I've kind of worked that out now, I've got a whole new policy. Like, I came into New York early this morning, bought a house. Met a cute gal, got married. We had a little baby, another one on the way. Tomorrow: wake up, have a home-cooked meal, sell the house, get a divorce, and get on to the next town. So, this is what Steve is doing now.
 
2013-10-29 01:35:46 PM  

Gunny Highway: Cold_Sassy: Rapmaster2000: Cold_Sassy: Swedgin: It's still worth it because once you're home you're in the city, and your meal/entertainment choices are much better than Applebee's or Chili's on a Friday night.

Unless you happen to be a hiker or other type of nature lover.

Good point.  It takes me up to an hour to get to the mountains on Saturday.  If I lived in the burbs, it would only take 45 minutes.

I'm talking about doing it every day to decompress and exercise the dogs, not some hipster weekend hobby.

Hiking on occasion makes you a hipster.  Got it.

Stop using that word.


You could just MYOB.  Rapmaster was the one who mouthed off.
 
2013-10-29 01:37:03 PM  

Cold_Sassy: Gunny Highway: Cold_Sassy: Rapmaster2000: Cold_Sassy: Swedgin: It's still worth it because once you're home you're in the city, and your meal/entertainment choices are much better than Applebee's or Chili's on a Friday night.

Unless you happen to be a hiker or other type of nature lover.

Good point.  It takes me up to an hour to get to the mountains on Saturday.  If I lived in the burbs, it would only take 45 minutes.

I'm talking about doing it every day to decompress and exercise the dogs, not some hipster weekend hobby.

Hiking on occasion makes you a hipster.  Got it.

Stop using that word.

You could just MYOB.  Rapmaster was the one who mouthed off.


Sorry, my hipster hobby of the week is not MYOBing.
 
2013-10-29 01:37:49 PM  

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: Subby is a reverse genius


So does that mean he's doing a handstand? Or is he standing with his back to us?
 
2013-10-29 01:39:16 PM  
We made a choice to build out in the boonies because we got more house for our buck, schools were good, taxes are freaking low, crime is practically non-existent and the area is clean. I can step outside on a summer night and watch meteor showers that would be drowned out by light pollution in the city.

When I worked downtown it was a 15 minute drive to the train station then an hour ride in while I slept or read. Now I have to drive to another suburb which takes me 90 minutes  for a 50 mile trip. It sucks but I catch up on my audio books.

Suggesting that people just move to be closer to their jobs might be slightly feasible if you are single and know your job is for life but it's not realistic for the rest of us. I've worked for tech companies that have been bought out or moved out of state requiring me to get a new job. So I'm supposed to move every time I get a new position just to avoid a longer commute? Not to mention how absolutely stellar the housing market is. I do try to look for jobs where I can use public transportation or where the drive isn't outrageous but sometimes you have to suck it up and work wherever the jobs are, especially when the economy goes down the crapper.
 
2013-10-29 01:39:17 PM  
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