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(NPR)   More and more smug "reverse commuters" are learning that maybe they didn't think their cunning plan all the way through   (npr.org) divider line 244
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2013-10-29 11:51:57 AM  
With a picture of someone slogging through their terrible commute:

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Nice brooch. Beats by Dre guy looks like he needs to shovel some more coffee into his mouth.
 
2013-10-29 12:09:45 PM  
Now write us a story about how hard those telecommuters have it
 
2013-10-29 12:12:50 PM  

unlikely: Now write us a story about how hard those telecommuters have it


Pffft, telecommuters. That buncha candy-asses couldn't begin to handle the travails of the independently wealthy.
 
2013-10-29 12:25:32 PM  
Stop making up unnecessary words.  This isn't "reverse" commuting, it's commuting.  Unless you work from home you commute, no matter where that's to or from.
 
2013-10-29 12:26:11 PM  
It's still worth it because once you're home you're in the city, and your meal/entertainment choices are much better than Applebee's or Chili's on a Friday night.
 
2013-10-29 12:46:34 PM  
I have a hard time feeling bad for somebody who chooses to work 35 miles away from where they live.
 
2013-10-29 12:46:53 PM  
Kept reading his name as Brix, Hans Brix.

/so ronery
 
2013-10-29 12:47:57 PM  
So they drive to work in reverse? That seems needlessly dangerous.
 
2013-10-29 12:48:42 PM  
I did this when I lived in Memphis.  Had a house downtown on the river, but worked way out east.  It was great, because I was going against traffic every day, but living where the fun was, rather than vice versa.
 
2013-10-29 12:49:32 PM  
I drive from SF to the burbs about 20 miles. My commute would take exactly the same amount of time if reversed.
 
2013-10-29 12:50:18 PM  
So by "reverse commuters" you mean...commuters.
 
2013-10-29 12:50:21 PM  
Wouldn't a reverse commute be driving away from work at the start of the work-day, then returning to work at the end of the work-day, i.e. the night shift?

This is just a normal commute, the destination being in the suburbs doesn't actually make it not a commute.
 
2013-10-29 12:51:41 PM  

The My Little Pony Killer: I have a hard time feeling bad for somebody who chooses to work 35 miles away from where they live.


This.  Just move closer to your job.  Crazy concept, I know.
 
2013-10-29 12:51:46 PM  

nekom: Stop making up unnecessary words.  This isn't "reverse" commuting, it's commuting.  Unless you work from home you commute, no matter where that's to or from.


Don't be thick.

It used to be that people commuted in from the suburbs to jobs in the city.  The other way during rush hour generally saw lighter traffic.

Apparently that is not the case any more.
 
2013-10-29 12:52:19 PM  

The My Little Pony Killer: I have a hard time feeling bad for somebody who chooses to work 35 miles away from where they live.


You're right, he should 'choose' to get a job at a labratory closer to his house. Say, right next door. That would be totally ideal. What a moron, right?
 
2013-10-29 12:52:33 PM  
I have a 90 minute commute one way every day.  Easily spend 120 bucks a week in gas.
 
2013-10-29 12:52:35 PM  
That's what keeps Kathy LeVeque, 31, in Chicago, too. "I'm a city person," she says.

Then get a city job.
 
2013-10-29 12:52:53 PM  

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: So they drive to work in reverse? That seems needlessly dangerous.


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WRONG
 
2013-10-29 12:53:04 PM  

HMS_Blinkin: The My Little Pony Killer: I have a hard time feeling bad for somebody who chooses to work 35 miles away from where they live.

This.  Just move closer to your job.  Crazy concept, I know.


Some people can't afford to live within a few miles of their workplace.
 
2013-10-29 12:53:41 PM  
Reverse commuting sounds almost good to me. I've seen the highways during rush hour--backed up for blocks in one direction only with scarcely a car going the other way. If you're in the car going the other way, life is sweet, man!

It is not enough for that successful man that other people have to fail, they have to be seen to fail. To paraphrase a famous quip.

Mind you, I don't commute at all. I walk to and from work, 2.5 kilometers each way in roughly the time it would take to go by bus. Even better than driving past people stuck in a traffic jam--walking past people stuck in a traffic jam. But I try to avoid traffic altogether as I am a bit asthmatic and the smog makes me gag sometimes.

Even picking my way through the snow in other people's footprints is better than being jammed in a bus full of hot people in winter clothing that turns the air into something you'd expect in a laundry or in a mud room full of sweaters and mittens and wet boots.
 
2013-10-29 12:53:55 PM  

LandOfChocolate: nekom: Stop making up unnecessary words.  This isn't "reverse" commuting, it's commuting.  Unless you work from home you commute, no matter where that's to or from.

Don't be thick.

It used to be that people commuted in from the suburbs to jobs in the city.  The other way during rush hour generally saw lighter traffic.

Apparently that is not the case any more.


Isn't that good, though? If both directions are getting equal use that's way more efficient than everybody trying to go one way.
 
2013-10-29 12:54:04 PM  
If you can't guess what "reverse commuter" means, subby isn't at the top of the list of people you should be mad at.

/not subby
 
2013-10-29 12:54:56 PM  
yup, I live z2, work z5. it's ACE.
 
2013-10-29 12:55:14 PM  

van1ty: I have a 90 minute commute one way every day.  Easily spend 120 bucks a week in gas.


An electric vehicle would pay for itself in short order. You're probably only driving 35 miles each way. Rapid charge when you get to work.
 
2013-10-29 12:55:50 PM  

ph0rk: If you can't guess what "reverse commuter" means, subby isn't at the top of the list of people you should be mad at.

/not subby


Commuter - one who commutes to work

Reverse commuter - one who... commutes to home? doesn't commute at all?
 
2013-10-29 12:56:45 PM  

nekom: Stop making up unnecessary words.  This isn't "reverse" commuting, it's commuting.  Unless you work from home you commute, no matter where that's to or from.


Pretty sure "reverse" and "community" aren't made-up words.

/i keed
 
2013-10-29 12:56:57 PM  
I still feel pretty smug when I'm going 80 mph while the other side of the highway is a parking lot for 15+ miles.

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Regardless, all of the suburbs is a traffic jam now.  My coworkers live closer to the office than I do and their commutes are twice as long.  When I ask why they don't move closer to the office (because to me a suburb is a suburb as I'm sure the city is the city to them) they say it's because in the suburb around the office the houses aren't big enough for your money.  One dude just bought a 5500 sq ft house for a family of four.  I get it that $400k is a pretty good price for all of that sq. footage.  I can't say a 15 mile, one hour commute makes that worth it.
 
2013-10-29 12:56:58 PM  

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: HMS_Blinkin: The My Little Pony Killer: I have a hard time feeling bad for somebody who chooses to work 35 miles away from where they live.

This.  Just move closer to your job.  Crazy concept, I know.

Some people can't afford to live within a few miles of their workplace.


I always assumed that living in the suburbs would be cheaper than living in the city, or you'd at least get more bang for your buck.
 
2013-10-29 12:57:02 PM  

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: HMS_Blinkin: The My Little Pony Killer: I have a hard time feeling bad for somebody who chooses to work 35 miles away from where they live.

This.  Just move closer to your job.  Crazy concept, I know.

Some people can't afford to live within a few miles of their workplace.


Recently moved from ~60 miles away from work to < 5. It's significantly more expensive, but man it's nice having free time again.
 
2013-10-29 12:57:38 PM  
Chicago is one of the few midwestern cities I'd move to, primarily because of the CTA.  I love those trains, and it's a great town.
 
2013-10-29 12:57:48 PM  

The My Little Pony Killer: I have a hard time feeling bad for somebody who chooses to work 35 miles away from where they live.


I work 35 miles from where I live.  It's a 40 minute commute.  35 if you speed.
 
2013-10-29 12:58:31 PM  

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: ph0rk: If you can't guess what "reverse commuter" means, subby isn't at the top of the list of people you should be mad at.

/not subby

Commuter - one who commutes to work

Reverse commuter - one who... commutes to home? doesn't commute at all?


If you can smell plastic melting, you're probably thinking too hard.

Also: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=reverse+commuter&l=1
 
2013-10-29 12:58:39 PM  
This is why I love my commute. It is about 15 miles, In the morning, the worst traffic is in the other direction. Cruising along at 65MPH. In the evening, the traffic sucks in both directions, though.
 
2013-10-29 12:59:27 PM  
I'd fix it, but a non-click lmgtfy link satisfies my desire for irony.
 
2013-10-29 12:59:44 PM  

HMS_Blinkin: The My Little Pony Killer: I have a hard time feeling bad for somebody who chooses to work 35 miles away from where they live.

This.  Just move closer to your job.  Crazy concept, I know.


Yeah... because it's just that easy.  You ass.

In any case, I had a 3 hour round trip commute for a while.  It was hell.   My condolences to those of you on that kind of grind. These days, if a song starts on the radio when I get in my car, it's still playing when I pull into the parking lot at my job.  It's tough to put into words just how wonderful a short commute is.  It's a quality of life issue, really.
 
2013-10-29 12:59:46 PM  

Jim_Callahan: Wouldn't a reverse commute be driving away from work at the start of the work-day, then returning to work at the end of the work-day, i.e. the night shift?

This is just a normal commute, the destination being in the suburbs doesn't actually make it not a commute.


This.  Your commute is scalar, not a vector.
 
2013-10-29 01:00:04 PM  

Abe Vigoda's Ghost: That's what keeps Kathy LeVeque, 31, in Chicago, too. "I'm a city person," she says.

Then get a city job.


Yes, jobs are plentiful and everywhere and are all the same and equally good and appropriate. Jobs are also secure and not at all volatile and you can count on being in the same job until you retire so base your long-term home location decisions on the job you have right at this very moment.
 
2013-10-29 01:00:10 PM  

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: ph0rk: If you can't guess what "reverse commuter" means, subby isn't at the top of the list of people you should be mad at.

/not subby

Commuter - one who commutes to work

Reverse commuter - one who... commutes to home? doesn't commute at all?


Yeah, and why is the postman always disgruntled.  Have you ever heard of a gruntled postman?  Also, what's the deal with airline food.
 
2013-10-29 01:00:14 PM  
I love my commute.  Two 30-40 minute train rides a day  allow me to listen to podcasts, music, or read.  All that said, I really miss driving to work.
 
2013-10-29 01:00:30 PM  
If you;'re a woman and live in the city but commute to the country for your cattle herding job, does that make you a reverse cowgirl?
 
2013-10-29 01:01:39 PM  

van1ty: I have a 90 minute commute one way every day.  Easily spend 120 bucks a week in gas.


I also have a slow commute and used to do it in a mustang.  Bought a Prius C -- it has a gas and electric engine -- basic model is under 20k and I get 53 mpg.  What you save in gas would cover the payments.
 
2013-10-29 01:01:56 PM  
My area, in a nutshell.

Commuting: Live where the property is affordable, commute to work (an area where property is expensive and salaries are higher).

VS

Reverse Commuting: Live where the property is expensive, commute to work (an area where property is cheaper and salaries are lower).

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2013-10-29 01:01:56 PM  
Actually, the crappy commute in the Chicago area is the suburb-to-suburb, east - west commute. It took at least 50+ minutes for me to get to my old job, 22 miles away. I would have loved to take the train, but the train system is just radial in and out of the city, so that meant one 55 minute ride into the city and another 45 minute ride out to the other suburb. Until we accept that people need mass transit from suburb to suburb it will continue to be a problem. I will never ever take another job that's over a 30 minute commute ever again, even if trains are an option. I miss quality time a home too much.

/new job is much closer
//traffic makes people crazy
///slashies crazy
 
2013-10-29 01:02:21 PM  

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: HMS_Blinkin: The My Little Pony Killer: I have a hard time feeling bad for somebody who chooses to work 35 miles away from where they live.

This.  Just move closer to your job.  Crazy concept, I know.

Some people can't afford to live within a few miles of their workplace.


The guy in TFA lives in Chicago and commutes to the 'burbs.  Unless he lives in a really rough neighborhood in Chicago, the suburbs are going to be around the same price, if not  cheaper.  Remember, people went to the suburbs in the first place because land is cheaper than in the city.  The people choosing to live in the city (and commute to the suburbs) aren't doing it to save money, they're doing it because they like the social/cultural aspects of the city better.  And it's fine if they want to make that choice, but don't cry about your commute when it's a lifestyle choice.

I recognize that not being able to afford to move is an issue for some people, but it's hardly the only reason people commute.  People might choose to live in different places for social reasons (or to get away from minorities in certain cases, if we're being honest), or to have perceived better schools for their kids, or to be able to afford more land on the same salary, etc.   I have all the sympathy in the world for people who are forced into commuting based on where they can afford to live, but minimal sympathy for people who choose a long commute.
 
2013-10-29 01:03:51 PM  
it can take 45 minutes to two hours to get to and from work

Nice culture you have there.
 
2013-10-29 01:04:12 PM  

Gunny Highway: I love my commute.  Two 30-40 minute train rides a day  allow me to listen to podcasts, music, or read.  All that said, I really miss driving to work.


For me, time-wise, public transportation makes sense. But the big problem with public transportation is the public. It's hard to relax and enjoy my commute when we're all crammed into a train like cattle, surrounded by jerk-ass people who won't move further into the car, stink, cough and sneeze all over the place, jam you in the back with their over-sized purses, smash you with their giant backpacks, and other assorted unpleasantness.
 
2013-10-29 01:04:29 PM  

HailRobonia: If you;'re a woman and live in the city but commute to the country for your cattle herding job, does that make you a reverse cowgirl?


I lol'd
 
2013-10-29 01:04:38 PM  

Rent Party: Chicago is one of the few midwestern cities I'd move to, primarily because of the CTA.  I love those trains, and it's a great town.


I used to love the CTA until I had to use it everyday.

The My Little Pony Killer: I have a hard time feeling bad for somebody who chooses to work 35 miles away from where they live is'nt me.


FTFY
 
2013-10-29 01:05:47 PM  
I wish I was a city person, my commute would be almost zero. Unfortunately, I love to live out in the woods as far as possibly which equals a horrendous commute daily for me. Wish I could find a well paying job in the boonies. As soon as I do I will be alot happier. Why you would want to live in the city and commute out of it is beyond me.
 
2013-10-29 01:05:50 PM  

El Morro: HMS_Blinkin: The My Little Pony Killer: I have a hard time feeling bad for somebody who chooses to work 35 miles away from where they live.

This.  Just move closer to your job.  Crazy concept, I know.

Yeah... because it's just that easy.  You ass.

In any case, I had a 3 hour round trip commute for a while.  It was hell.   My condolences to those of you on that kind of grind. These days, if a song starts on the radio when I get in my car, it's still playing when I pull into the parking lot at my job.  It's tough to put into words just how wonderful a short commute is.  It's a quality of life issue, really.


Meh.

I spend 2 hours a day in my car, an hour to work in the morning, and an hour back home.

In the morning, traffic is light, and I either chat on the radio with my local ham radio buddies, or I listen to Morning Edition on NPR to catch up on the news.  On the ride home, I get on the long-range radio if propagation is there, or I listen to All Things Considered.

Just yesterday I spent most of my commute "talking" to Wayne N5YFC down near Baton Rouge, LA.  I put talking in quotes because we were using Morse.  Anyway, being able to talk to new and interesting people and places adds a bit of excitement to the commute.

The only time it's "brutal" is in the winter when I have to drive slow and it takes twice as long, and just occasionally when there is a particularly bad accident.
 
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