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(Talking Points Memo)   Texas' Voter ID law could help Wendy Davis lose by only 10 points   (talkingpointsmemo.com) divider line 136
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2013-10-29 07:40:18 AM
Best of luck to her, but I fear the Common Clay of the New West will vote for the guy with an "R" in front of his name.
 
2013-10-29 08:21:13 AM
She might barely win the female vote, but yeah...she's 10 years too early to have a real chance.
 
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2013-10-29 08:31:39 AM

UNC_Samurai: Best of luck to her, but I fear the Common Clay of the New West will vote for the guy with an "R" in front of his name.


Even if the "R" is followed by "etarded".
 
2013-10-29 08:39:58 AM

vpb: UNC_Samurai: Best of luck to her, but I fear the Common Clay of the New West will vote for the guy with an "R" in front of his name.

Even if the "R" is followed by "etarded".


That's redundant.
 
2013-10-29 08:46:43 AM
I've laughed at this in the past as a 'law of unintended consequences' thing- but the more I think about it I wonder if it wasn't actually fully intentional and keeping even their own wives from voting was part of the plan...
 
2013-10-29 09:00:58 AM

Ashyukun: I've laughed at this in the past as a 'law of unintended consequences' thing- but the more I think about it I wonder if it wasn't actually fully intentional and keeping even their own wives from voting was part of the plan...


Easy to believe.  Especially since my Congressman, Daniel Webster, believes in such things.
 
2013-10-29 09:07:28 AM

UNC_Samurai: Best of luck to her, but I fear the Common Clay of the New West will vote for the guy with an "R" in front of his name.


You know, Morons.
 
2013-10-29 09:27:12 AM
Subby's assessment sounds like the smart-money Vegas line.  This is Texas; they like Republicans and are certainly not bothered by abortion restrictions enough to vote for some damn rule-bender like Sen. Davis.
 
2013-10-29 09:31:04 AM
I cannot see TEXAS going purple in 10 years or so. It just feels like a dream.
 
2013-10-29 09:34:50 AM

NeverDrunk23: I cannot see TEXAS going purple in 10 years or so. It just feels like a dream.


The only reason that it will is because white people just don't pop out kids the way they used to... and Americans are only following the lead of our European forebears.  The Longshanks solution, if you will.
 
2013-10-29 09:35:09 AM

NeverDrunk23: I cannot see TEXAS going purple in 10 years or so. It just feels like a dream.


This is the same state that elected Ann Richards not that long ago (I'm old, so it doesn't seem like that long ago to me).

I almost wish that I could move back so that I could vote for Ms. Davis.

// Almost.
 
2013-10-29 09:35:11 AM

Ashyukun: I've laughed at this in the past as a 'law of unintended consequences' thing- but the more I think about it I wonder if it wasn't actually fully intentional and keeping even their own wives from voting was part of the plan...


Women just vote how their husbands tell them to anyway. It's a man's right to tell his wife what to do and it is her duty to obey her husband. End of discussion.

www.thatreligiousstudieswebsite.com
 
2013-10-29 09:37:31 AM

Granny_Panties: Ashyukun: I've laughed at this in the past as a 'law of unintended consequences' thing- but the more I think about it I wonder if it wasn't actually fully intentional and keeping even their own wives from voting was part of the plan...

Women just vote how their husbands tell them to anyway. It's a man's right to tell his wife what to do and it is her duty to obey her husband. End of discussion.

[www.thatreligiousstudieswebsite.com image 290x230]


Ah, you must be reading the same book on advice from the 50's from this thread.
 
2013-10-29 09:38:06 AM

NeverDrunk23: I cannot see TEXAS going purple in 10 years or so. It just feels like a dream.


i18.photobucket.com
 
2013-10-29 09:38:48 AM

UNC_Samurai: Best of luck to her, but I fear the Common Clay of the New West will vote for the guy with an "R" in front of his name.


Just like here in Georgia where the guy with the (R) beside his name would win in a landslide if he were running against Jesus Christ (D) for any statewide office.
 
2013-10-29 09:40:22 AM

Brosephus: Just like here in Georgia where the guy with the (R) beside his name would win in a landslide if he were running against Jesus Christ (D) for any statewide office.

.. Because Jesus.

FTFY
 
2013-10-29 09:41:32 AM
There's a lot of wishful thinking going on there. To follow the argument you have to believe voter suppression is bad and voter suppression is good at the same time.
 
2013-10-29 09:41:39 AM

factoryconnection: Brosephus: Just like here in Georgia where the guy with the (R) beside his name would win in a landslide if he were running against Jesus Christ (D) for any statewide office... Because Jesus.

FTFY


Thanks.  Do I still get the stat for an assist?  LOL!!!!
 
2013-10-29 09:42:17 AM
The fact that they're going to have to fight tooth and nail to keep the governor's chair in GOP hands means that the GOP have already lost.

They should not be struggling to keep Texas.  This only highlights the fact that the GOP is on the defensive and has been since before the 2012 elections.

And as long as the GOP is playing defense in states that should be safely red, they won't have nearly enough time, people and money to go on the offense in weak Democrat races.
 
2013-10-29 09:42:46 AM

Brosephus: factoryconnection: Brosephus: Just like here in Georgia where the guy with the (R) beside his name would win in a landslide if he were running against Jesus Christ (D) for any statewide office... Because Jesus.

FTFY

Thanks.  Do I still get the stat for an assist?  LOL!!!!


John Stockton style, no less.
 
2013-10-29 09:43:24 AM

Granny_Panties: Ashyukun: I've laughed at this in the past as a 'law of unintended consequences' thing- but the more I think about it I wonder if it wasn't actually fully intentional and keeping even their own wives from voting was part of the plan...

Women just vote how their husbands tell them to anyway. It's a man's right to tell his wife what to do and it is her duty to obey her husband. End of discussion.

[www.thatreligiousstudieswebsite.com image 290x230]


During the recall I had many women tell me they supported the recall, but wouldn't sign the petition because they were afraid their husband would find out.  I also had many women tell me that they didn't vote because it was up to men to make the decisions.  Isn't that great?
 
2013-10-29 09:45:40 AM
You know, it's odd.  I can't imagine voting for a political party that publicly and openly legislates against me when there's an option to vote for one that doesn't.  And yet, there are going to be millions of Texan women that will actually do that, if they're allowed to vote at all.  What a weird place the US is.
 
2013-10-29 09:51:24 AM

Mercutio74: You know, it's odd.  I can't imagine voting for a political party that publicly and openly legislates against me when there's an option to vote for one that doesn't.  And yet, there are going to be millions of Texan women that will actually do that, if they're allowed to vote at all.  What a weird place the US is.


Some men want to revert to the time when only while males had any say or power. Oddly enough, some women are okay with this and just want to live like Ron Burgundy's dream wife. Our country... I don't know sometimes.
 
2013-10-29 09:51:48 AM

Don't Troll Me Bro!: Granny_Panties: Ashyukun: I've laughed at this in the past as a 'law of unintended consequences' thing- but the more I think about it I wonder if it wasn't actually fully intentional and keeping even their own wives from voting was part of the plan...

Women just vote how their husbands tell them to anyway. It's a man's right to tell his wife what to do and it is her duty to obey her husband. End of discussion.

[www.thatreligiousstudieswebsite.com image 290x230]

During the recall I had many women tell me they supported the recall, but wouldn't sign the petition because they were afraid their husband would find out.  I also had many women tell me that they didn't vote because it was up to men to make the decisions.  Isn't that great?


Wow!!!!  I don't know what I would do if my wife wouldn't speak up for herself.  I guess people are different based on their upbringing.
 
2013-10-29 09:52:19 AM

jso2897: NeverDrunk23: I cannot see TEXAS going purple in 10 years or so. It just feels like a dream.

[i18.photobucket.com image 413x599]


Wont matter.  Hispanics are the voting block least likely to show up to vote.  Texas will probably go purple.  But I believe a realistic time line is 30 to 50 years, not 10.  Texas is not the big cities, people who believe Texas is like Austin or Houston are living in a fantasy.
 
2013-10-29 09:54:23 AM
Wendy Davis doesn't have to win for the Republicans to lose, in the same way Akin and Mourdock's comments in local races hurt the republicans on the national stage the Texas Rs will let loose on Davis and hurt the party image nationally. It will happen
 
2013-10-29 09:54:28 AM

IntertubeUser: NeverDrunk23: I cannot see TEXAS going purple in 10 years or so. It just feels like a dream.

This is the same state that elected Ann Richards not that long ago (I'm old, so it doesn't seem like that long ago to me).

I almost wish that I could move back so that I could vote for Ms. Davis.

// Almost.


And she (Richards) lost (and thus inflicted the country w/ Shrub) because of Feinstine
 
2013-10-29 09:55:07 AM
Besides her filibustering the abortion law, why is she qualified to run the state?  Serious question.  That's the only thing I ever hear about when her name comes up.
 
2013-10-29 09:55:53 AM

UNC_Samurai: Best of luck to her, but I fear the Common Clay of the New West will vote for the guy with an "R" in front of his name.


Yep, even though he doesn't have a leg to stand on.


/rimshot
//yeah, I went there
///aisle seat, plz
 
2013-10-29 09:56:29 AM

orclover: Texas is not the big cities, people who believe Texas is like Austin or Houston are living in a fantasy.


According to the liberal whack-jobs at Texas (the state itself), however, the population of the state is around 85% urban (See Exhibit 5).  Rural counties are shrinking, urban ones are growing.  The real inertia comes from the aging of the population.
 
2013-10-29 09:57:23 AM

Don't Troll Me Bro!: During the recall I had many women tell me they supported the recall, but wouldn't sign the petition because they were afraid their husband would find out. I also had many women tell me that they didn't vote because it was up to men to make the decisions. Isn't that great?


That's sad.
 
2013-10-29 09:57:26 AM

zedster: Wendy Davis doesn't have to win for the Republicans to lose, in the same way Akin and Mourdock's comments in local races hurt the republicans on the national stage the Texas Rs will let loose on Davis and hurt the party image nationally. It will happen


And Rick Perry has been saying retarded shiat like that for the last decade and a half and yet he's been reelected 3 times. Texas makes Missouri and Indiana look like progressive wonderlands.

/former resident of both Texas and Indiana
 
2013-10-29 09:57:54 AM

AngryDragon: Besides her filibustering the abortion law, why is she qualified to run the state?  Serious question.  That's the only thing I ever hear about when her name comes up.


The current governor is Rick farking Perry and you're wondering about qualifications?  That ship has sailed.  A fifth grader could probably run the state better then Sideshow Rick Perry.
 
2013-10-29 09:58:11 AM

AngryDragon: Besides her filibustering the abortion law, why is she qualified to run the state?  Serious question.  That's the only thing I ever hear about when her name comes up.


Agreed.  She hasn't managed even a single MLB team.  What makes her think that she's qualified?
 
2013-10-29 09:58:47 AM

Infernalist: AngryDragon: Besides her filibustering the abortion law, why is she qualified to run the state?  Serious question.  That's the only thing I ever hear about when her name comes up.

Agreed.  She hasn't managed  owned even a single MLB team.  What makes her think that she's qualified?

 
2013-10-29 09:58:53 AM

AngryDragon: Besides her filibustering the abortion law, why is she qualified to run the state?  Serious question.  That's the only thing I ever hear about when her name comes up.


As opposed to our current head of state, a former male cheerleader?
 
2013-10-29 09:58:59 AM

factoryconnection: NeverDrunk23: I cannot see TEXAS going purple in 10 years or so. It just feels like a dream.

The only reason that it will is because white educated people with access to birth control just don't pop out kids the way they used to...


The correction is factually correct. In America, and everywhere else, regardless of your skin color.

/You a racist, bro?
 
2013-10-29 09:59:08 AM

Brosephus: Wow!!!! I don't know what I would do if my wife wouldn't speak up for herself. I guess people are different based on their upbringing.


Heheheh. If I didn't speak up for myself, my head would asplode. I'm not even sure how other women do it. Maybe not being part Italian helps... :P
 
2013-10-29 09:59:24 AM
Dems are trying to bring it into play.. Doesn't matter if they win or lot as long as they get close enough... If they do the Republicans are in deeeeep doodoo
 
2013-10-29 09:59:35 AM

AngryDragon: Besides her filibustering the abortion law, why is she qualified to run the state?  Serious question.  That's the only thing I ever hear about when her name comes up.


Let me ask what what makes Ted Cruz qualified?
 
2013-10-29 10:01:12 AM

Brosephus: Don't Troll Me Bro!: Granny_Panties: Ashyukun: I've laughed at this in the past as a 'law of unintended consequences' thing- but the more I think about it I wonder if it wasn't actually fully intentional and keeping even their own wives from voting was part of the plan...

Women just vote how their husbands tell them to anyway. It's a man's right to tell his wife what to do and it is her duty to obey her husband. End of discussion.

[www.thatreligiousstudieswebsite.com image 290x230]

During the recall I had many women tell me they supported the recall, but wouldn't sign the petition because they were afraid their husband would find out.  I also had many women tell me that they didn't vote because it was up to men to make the decisions.  Isn't that great?

Wow!!!!  I don't know what I would do if my wife wouldn't speak up for herself.  I guess people are different based on their upbringing.


I know right? I want my (Hopefully future) wife to be fine with disagreeing with me and telling me that I'm a farking idiot.
/As long as it warranted.
//I don't want a wife that disagree with me to just disagree with me.
///Unless it's an excuse for make-up sex. Then that's fine.
 
2013-10-29 10:01:54 AM

factoryconnection: Subby's assessment sounds like the smart-money Vegas line.  This is Texas; they like Republicans and are certainly not bothered by abortion restrictions enough to vote for some damn rule-bender like Sen. Davis.


I aint Texan, aint even American.. but I've read about the place enough to know that anyone who thinks it's a monolith politically is talking bollocks.
 
2013-10-29 10:03:11 AM

Aidan: Brosephus: Wow!!!! I don't know what I would do if my wife wouldn't speak up for herself. I guess people are different based on their upbringing.

Heheheh. If I didn't speak up for myself, my head would asplode. I'm not even sure how other women do it. Maybe not being part Italian helps... :P


LOL!!!!   Maybe it has something to do with the melanin count within the skin or something.  I'm a chocolate brown brother, and my favorite teacher in high school was Italian.  After the summer break, she would return to school with the same complexion as me.  She had no problems communicating her thoughts either.
 
2013-10-29 10:03:57 AM

factoryconnection: orclover: Texas is not the big cities, people who believe Texas is like Austin or Houston are living in a fantasy.

According to the liberal whack-jobs at Texas (the state itself), however, the population of the state is around 85% urban (See Exhibit 5).  Rural counties are shrinking, urban ones are growing.  The real inertia comes from the aging of the population.


I'm assuming "urban" means "big cities plus their suburban metropolitan areas" under that definition. While the inner cities may be Democratic leaning, the suburbs in Texas are pretty rock-ribbed Republican. And even when only accounting cities, it is only the really major ones like Houston, Dallas, Austin, and San Antonio. Mid-sized Texas cities (i.e, Fort Worth, Corpus Christi, Midland, Lubbock) can be surprisingly conservative.

This is really what makes the big difference in politics between "blue" and "red" states nowadays.

In blue states, the cities and suburbs are both liberal-leaning, while only the rural areas are conservative.

In red states, the suburbs and rural areas are both conservative-leaning, while only the cities are liberal.
 
2013-10-29 10:05:05 AM

Mercutio74: The current governor is Rick farking Perry and you're wondering about qualifications?  That ship has sailed.  A fifth grader could probably run the state better then Sideshow Rick Perry.


Infernalist: Agreed.  She hasn't managed even a single MLB team.  What makes her think that she's qualified?


Infernalist: Agreed.  She hasn't managed  owned even a single MLB team.  What makes her think that she's qualified?


Maud Dib: As opposed to our current head of state, a former male cheerleader?


Dubya's_Coke_Dealer: Let me ask what what makes Ted Cruz qualified?


fark you guys are vultures.  I asked a simple question.  I didn't say I supported the current governor, in fact I know nothing about Texas politics.  And Ted Cruz, seriously?

So basically this boils down to the us v them bullshiat that permeates American politics?  Who cares who we elect as long as its not the other team?  That's how we end up with 6 term Senators who can't even send an email sitting on the science and technology committees.
 
2013-10-29 10:06:01 AM

orclover: Texas is not the big cities, people who believe Texas is like Austin or Houston are living in a fantasy.


And most likely an endless traffic-jam fantasy at that.
 
2013-10-29 10:06:08 AM

AngryDragon: Besides her filibustering the abortion law, why is she qualified to run the state?  Serious question.  That's the only thing I ever hear about when her name comes up.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wendy_Davis_(politician)
 
2013-10-29 10:06:40 AM

Dubya's_Coke_Dealer: /You a racist, bro?


Sure I am.  Racist enough to see that there is a political divide among the races, especially in the South.  And I use that inborn white privilege to see things to oppress minorities.  I mean, that's what you're saying, right?  That I'm systematically oppressing racial minorities with this observation?

Maud Dib: As opposed to our current head of state, a former male cheerleader?


Important question: Does Sen. Davis' hair even merit being in the same room as Gov. Perry's coif?
 
2013-10-29 10:06:59 AM

the_vegetarian_cannibal: zedster: Wendy Davis doesn't have to win for the Republicans to lose, in the same way Akin and Mourdock's comments in local races hurt the republicans on the national stage the Texas Rs will let loose on Davis and hurt the party image nationally. It will happen

And Rick Perry has been saying retarded shiat like that for the last decade and a half and yet he's been reelected 3 times. Texas makes Missouri and Indiana look like progressive wonderlands.

/former resident of both Texas and Indiana


Right, but those comments can hurt the party on the national stage:
1) GOP person in Dark Red state says something stupid
2) GOP candidates for national office or in purple states get asked to either defend or condemn comment
3) Purple state GOP ends up alienating {women, minorities, plankton, whales, the 85 Bears, the entire nation of Micronesia, etc...} while trying to not throw their own under the bus
4) Dems win previously safe red seats
 
2013-10-29 10:09:32 AM

AngryDragon: fark you guys are vultures. I asked a simple question. I didn't say I supported the current governor, in fact I know nothing about Texas politics. And Ted Cruz, seriously?

So basically this boils down to the us v them bullshiat that permeates American politics? Who cares who we elect as long as its not the other team? That's how we end up with 6 term Senators who can't even send an email sitting on the science and technology committees.


Oh, I'm sorry...  I thought that your question was a concern troll because 5 seconds of googling brings up a bunch of info on Wendy Davis.  Apparently, however, you don't have the internet.  Again, sorry about the misunderstanding.
 
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