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(New York Daily News)   It looks like whoever wins NYC's mayoral race, the carriage horses of Central Park are going to have a race to the slaughterhouse   (m.nydailynews.com) divider line 29
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2013-10-29 07:38:16 AM
Its a fine NYC tradition.

Its a shame that there is an attack on it
 
2013-10-29 07:53:36 AM
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2013-10-29 07:55:07 AM
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2013-10-29 07:55:40 AM
No matter who wins the NYC mayor race, the people lose.
 
2013-10-29 07:56:24 AM
Hey, way to go animal rights activists!
 
2013-10-29 08:01:00 AM

cman: Its a fine NYC tradition.

Its a shame that there is an attack on it


It is. They could easily tweak the current system to fix most of the problems. (the biggest being that the stables are located away from the park leading to the horses having to use city streets to get to it).

Turn tavern on the green into a stable, run your rides out of there, problem solved.
 
2013-10-29 08:01:40 AM
That's doing the horses a favor. City horses are some of the most miserable looking creatures there are.
 
2013-10-29 08:04:49 AM
I hope bloomberg gets ass cancer
 
2013-10-29 08:06:33 AM

LineNoise: Turn tavern on the green into a stable, run your rides out of there, problem solved.


That sounds like a good idea but from what I've read they are going to switch over to horseless electric carriages like other cities no matter who is mayor
 
2013-10-29 08:08:07 AM
Aldi needs more hamburger.
 
2013-10-29 08:13:56 AM

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RUSTY!!!!
 
2013-10-29 08:37:11 AM
But, but, banning our pit bull fighting will send hundreds of dogs to the pound to be killed!!!
 
2013-10-29 08:46:12 AM
Why do these horses need to be slaughtered? Can't they get a job somewhere else?

Wait...I think i just found the solution to unemployment...
 
2013-10-29 08:52:09 AM
Why do some want to do away with the horse drawn carriages anyway?  Is there a problem with the horses being mistreated?  If not, why can't the activists mind their own damn business?
 
gja [TotalFark]
2013-10-29 08:57:53 AM
Blucher!

Very SFW and oblig.
 
2013-10-29 09:00:16 AM

cman: Its a fine NYC tradition.

Its a shame that there is an attack on it


It's not a fine tradition. It's something for idiot tourists and those horses have no place on city streets. Most everyone I know wants them out.
 
2013-10-29 09:02:54 AM
Way to defend your stupid business: if you don't let us continue we will kill this animal.
 
2013-10-29 09:17:31 AM

Cloudchaser Sakonige the Red Wolf: Why do some want to do away with the horse drawn carriages anyway?  Is there a problem with the horses being mistreated?  If not, why can't the activists mind their own damn business?


I am a vegetarian and a supporter of animal rights, but I am just not seeing how this is helping these horses. TFA does a terrible job of explaining what's happening here. Some info about WHY these two groups are trying to ban horse-drawn carriages would be helpful. Are these even animal rights groups? One of the groups is called NYCLASS, New Yorkers for Clean, Livable and Safe Streets. That doesn't sound like an animal rights group to me. That sounds like a bunch of people that are offended by horse dung on their streets.
 
2013-10-29 10:40:55 AM

LineNoise: Turn tavern on the green into a stable, run your rides out of there, problem solved.


That's an ironic thought, as the building started out as the park's sheepfold.  But no, Tavern on the Green is going to be reopened as a restaurant in the next few months and will bring in at least $1 million in rent to the city each year.

Cloudchaser Sakonige the Red Wolf: Why do some want to do away with the horse drawn carriages anyway?  Is there a problem with the horses being mistreated?  If not, why can't the activists mind their own damn business?


Originally, Central Park was set up for riding and carriages and there were plenty of paths within the park.  Over time, carriages, which are as dangerous as cars, were pushed out of the Park, onto the surrounding city streets.  This now puts the carriages into auto traffic, and subjects the horses to the stress of the modern "heat island" created by all those internal combustion engines.  I don't know about NYC, but here in Philly, the carriages that operate around Independence Hall have to shut down when the temp gets into the 90s in the summer.

This isn't some new problem: a century ago, major cities had crews tasked with removing dead horses from their city streets, as horses have a tenancy to drop dead from any number of stress-related causes.  Once most people switched to cars, the dead horse thing became less of an issue.

And if you want to go riding in Central Park, that's still perfectly legal, and there are still a couple stables around the Park.
 
2013-10-29 11:13:37 AM
"De Blasio and Lhota have proposed replacing the horse-drawn carriages with motorized rides"

Horseless carriages? Preposterous! I scoff at the very idea!
 
2013-10-29 11:13:53 AM

JerseyTim: "cman: Its a fine NYC tradition.

Its a shame that there is an attack on it

It's not a fine tradition. It's something for idiot tourists and those horses have no place on city streets. Most everyone I know wants them out."



For my part, most locals I know -- while we would definitely like to see the living conditions of the horses improved -- actually think it's a really nice touch in a city that has an increasingly utilitarian approach to recreation (and to everything else, really).

The only city street they're on where they make any kind of impact is West 59th, and if you've been in New York longer than a week you know better than to drive there anyway - the carriages are the least of your concerns.

As for "idiot tourists"...meh. I've lived my whole life in tourist destinations (in several states and countries). It's truly frustrating at times, but you can either choose to be an ambassador or a grouch; I've learned to choose the former. To each his own.
 
2013-10-29 11:25:53 AM
Just phase them out instead of an outright ban. Keep the current batch working and no new ones, old age will solve the problem in about 10 years.
 
2013-10-29 11:53:55 AM

Cloudchaser Sakonige the Red Wolf: Why do some want to do away with the horse drawn carriages anyway?  Is there a problem with the horses being mistreated?  If not, why can't the activists mind their own damn business?

Every now and then a horse loses its shiat and runs around in traffic or tips over a cart or just flat-out gets hit by a cab.
 
2013-10-29 12:42:46 PM
I'm a NYC resident.  I tend to be an animal rights person.  I know a lot of non-animal rights people who want to see the horses gone because of the smell, and because if you remove the "tradition" aspect, there's no reason whatsoever that carriage horses should be in the city.   This isn't the 1800s.  You want to take a carriage horse ride, go out to Long Island.  Ride around a pumpkin patch.

People like to mention the tourist aspect to this.  Nobody is coming to NYC for the sole purpose of riding in a carriage, and you'd have to be an extremist to specifically not come to NYC because of the ending of carriage horses.  People will spend their money on some other tourist attraction.

Also, in regard to the horses that are currently active, I've read in a couple of places that there are organizations that will take them in.

I'm not against all use of horses.  The cops use them, it's fine with me.  You want to ride them out in Forest Park, fine.  But for a tourist thing in the middle of one of the densest, most trafficked cities in the world?  Come on now.
 
2013-10-29 03:03:52 PM
Can we keep the horses and slaughter the bicyclists instead?
I have never, ever nearly hit, nor have I nearly been hit by a dipshiat speeding horse.
The cyclists on the other hand....

/the more dayglo nylon, the worse
//fark them
 
2013-10-29 03:11:35 PM

JerseyTim: cman: Its a fine NYC tradition.

Its a shame that there is an attack on it

It's not a fine tradition. It's something for idiot tourists and those horses have no place on city streets. Most everyone I know wants them out.



three card monte still ok though; M' I rite, guys?
 
2013-10-29 03:27:47 PM

JerseyTim: Cloudchaser Sakonige the Red Wolf: Why do some want to do away with the horse drawn carriages anyway?  Is there a problem with the horses being mistreated?  If not, why can't the activists mind their own damn business?Every now and then a horse loses its shiat and runs around in traffic or tips over a cart or just flat-out gets hit by a cab.


So accidents sometimes happen?  :)
 
2013-10-29 05:39:30 PM
The road to Hell is paved with good intentions and horseshiat.
 
2013-10-29 05:49:42 PM

Dwight_Yeast: Originally, Central Park was set up for riding and carriages and there were plenty of paths within the park.  Over time, carriages, which are as dangerous as cars, were pushed out of the Park, onto the surrounding city streets.  This now puts the carriages into auto traffic, and subjects the horses to the stress of the modern "heat island" created by all those internal combustion engines.  I don't know about NYC, but here in Philly, the carriages that operate around Independence Hall have to shut down when the temp gets into the 90s in the summer.


TFA specifically states that the horses are taken off duty when the temperature reaches 90.
 
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