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(CBS News)   In the first half of the 20th century, Chinese-American women typically had menial jobs in retail, food service, ferrying fighter jets, laundries, or... wait, what? "Hazel Ying Lee" must translate to "Giant Clanking Balls"   (cbsnews.com ) divider line
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2013-10-29 10:50:12 AM  
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cptjeff: The work could be dangerous; if, for example, they discovered defects as they flew the airplanes directly from assembly lines. Of the 1,102 women who took part in the program, 38 died. Lee was the last.

Okay, so the quality control on these things was, "looks okay, let's see if it blows up on the way to the military base"? That seems smart.


Life during wartime, y'know? Also explains why they had disposable wimmins and furriners making those shakedown flights. Couldn't risk losing a white man except to combst.
2013-10-29 08:40:45 AM  
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But when the family prepared to bury them alongside each other in a Portland, Oregon, cemetery, they were told that Asians were not permitted in the white section. The cemetery relented only after a fight.

What the f*ck?  I know I'm in a bad mood when every story I read makes me feel like stabbing people in the face.
2013-10-29 12:40:32 PM  
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Rex Talionis: The Chinese Exclusion Act wasn't actually repealed until 1943 - I guess somebody thought that it was stupid that the Chinese (who were part of the Allied forces) were excluded from immigrating in the US. And it wasn't truly until after Nixon opened China up that the later waves of Chinese immigrants came over, which I am a part of.

The Chinese have gotten the shaft in the US - maybe not to the extent the Native Americans and the African-Americans have, but we got boned but good by racist officials, racist laws and also racist labor unions (Irish labor groups and labor unions were actively against Chinese laborers because they were the competition - Denis Kearney incited race riots by the Irish laborers against the Chinese laborers in California that resulted in many people being lynched).



All Asians got the shaft in the first half of the 20th century.  Of course the Japanese Americans got it the worst with being dumped in those camps during WWII.  The Chinese being the most numerous Asians are most well know and were segregated to various Chinatown areas.

Less well know, Filipinos came in as laborers as well in the early 20th century since they were a US colony at the time, and then the door swung shut with the Immigration Act of '24 (aka "Asian Exclusion").  As Rex Talionis mentioned about the Chinese as cheap labor, some Southern and Western agricultural land owners toyed with the idea of importing a large group of Filipino laborers to work the fields.  But govt officials nixed that quickly because they were concerned Filipinos might form yet another competing group for jobs that blacks or mexicans already do, further exacerbating the racial problems.

Sort of sad for the guys who came in and decided to stay (sometimes they couldn't afford to go back).  They often ended up segregated in "Filipino towns" which were blocks or districts near SF and LA Chinatown.  They couldn't get married as females did not immigrate into the US and probably lived out a lonely existence. There are some stories of some of them getting married to whites, which I assume would be no picnic.

Cool story about this woman pilot.  I really can't imagine an Asian female getting that far.
2013-10-29 10:02:01 AM  
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RexTalionis: The Chinese Exclusion Act wasn't actually repealed until 1943 - I guess somebody thought that it was stupid that the Chinese (who were part of the Allied forces) were excluded from immigrating in the US. And it wasn't truly until after Nixon opened China up that the later waves of Chinese immigrants came over, which I am a part of.

The Chinese have gotten the shaft in the US - maybe not to the extent the Native Americans and the African-Americans have, but we got boned but good by racist officials, racist laws and also racist labor unions (Irish labor groups and labor unions were actively against Chinese laborers because they were the competition - Denis Kearney incited race riots by the Irish laborers against the Chinese laborers in California that resulted in many people being lynched).


Very similar to the history of Chinese immigration in Canada.  Our Exclusion law wasn't repealed until a few years later than in the US.  Although, we now in retrospect credit Chinese immigrants for their contribution (and unfortunate sacrifice) during the construction of the trans-Canada railway, which is the key element that brought BC into confederation and made Canada what it is today.

As is inevitably the case, there is a Canadian Heritage Moment that describes this pretty succinctly.
2013-10-29 09:28:06 AM  
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What a jet DOESN'T look like...

www.hooked-on-rc-airplanes.com
2013-10-29 09:09:03 AM  
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Just as a bit of background - the Chinese Exclusion Act was signed into law in 1882 that pretty much prohibited Chinese skilled and unskilled laborers from entering the country and prevented even the ethnic Chinese who were in the country from naturalizing. They were allowed, at  most, permanent alien status.

The earlier Page Act also limited the ability for Chinese women to immigrate into the US because it prohibited Chinese women being brought into the US as prostitutes. Under the law officials of that time, pretty much any woman from China immigrating to the US was being brought in as prostitutes, even if they're just coming in to join their husbands and settling.

The Page and Chinese Exclusion Acts pretty much killed the first few generations of American Chinese - the men who moved here basically had very limited prospects for marriage since there are no Chinese women and anti-miscegenation laws were still in place and in force. Very few Chinese-American children were born during this period. Hazel Ying Lee would've been one of the extremely rare examples of the time.

The Chinese Exclusion Act wasn't actually repealed until 1943 - I guess somebody thought that it was stupid that the Chinese (who were part of the Allied forces) were excluded from immigrating in the US. And it wasn't truly until after Nixon opened China up that the later waves of Chinese immigrants came over, which I am a part of.

The Chinese have gotten the shaft in the US - maybe not to the extent the Native Americans and the African-Americans have, but we got boned but good by racist officials, racist laws and also racist labor unions (Irish labor groups and labor unions were actively against Chinese laborers because they were the competition - Denis Kearney incited race riots by the Irish laborers against the Chinese laborers in California that resulted in many people being lynched).
2013-10-29 08:57:42 AM  
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Molavian: But when the family prepared to bury them alongside each other in a Portland, Oregon, cemetery, they were told that Asians were not permitted in the white section. The cemetery relented only after a fight.

What the f*ck?  I know I'm in a bad mood when every story I read makes me feel like stabbing people in the face.


1940's Portlanders would freak out if it they could see 2013 Portlanders, IMHO.

/ that gives me hope
2013-10-29 08:49:16 AM  
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starlost: i'm sure not being classified as military also let the gov pay less and give fewer benefits and basically screw them over.


The women who did this did not qualify for any GI Bill benefits, either.
2013-10-29 08:37:06 AM  
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"They didn't even pay for our funerals," she said. "We had to pass the hat to ship her body home."
"But when the family prepared to bury them alongside each other in a Portland, Oregon, cemetery, they were told that Asians were not permitted in the white section. "

now that is farked up. as a teacher, this is the kind of racism / sexism that is hardly ever taught - institutional, subtle, and non-malicious. I'm sure those who made such decisions didn't think of themselves as being unfair, even though they were.
 
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