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2013-10-29 07:24:20 AM
Penn should have been shut down

Simple as that
 
2013-10-29 07:25:15 AM
Good.
 
2013-10-29 07:26:00 AM
Wow, a dick headline that's actually funny.
 
2013-10-29 07:57:25 AM

cman: Penn should have been shut down

Simple as that


Whatever you say, Sandusky-appeaser.

PSU should have shutdown, all students and alumni rounded up and burned at the stake, and then the entire town of State College razed, and the earth salted so nothing could grow there.
 
2013-10-29 08:01:39 AM
I like how "victims" is on the second line of TFA's headline. So at first glance, Penn State is paying a boat load of cash to the man himself. An instant of outraged indignation is better than a cup of coffee for jumpstarting one's morning.
 
2013-10-29 08:06:49 AM

WTF Indeed: cman: Penn should have been shut down

Simple as that

Whatever you say, Sandusky-appeaser.

PSU should have shutdown, all students and alumni rounded up and burned at the stake, and then the entire town of State College razed, and the earth salted so nothing could grow there.


When an organization is involved or covers up deplorable felonious activity that organization forfeits its right to exist

Thats just what I think
 
2013-10-29 08:48:24 AM

cman: Penn should have been shut down


Does Penn even have a football field?
 
2013-10-29 08:50:55 AM

dragonchild: cman: Penn should have been shut down

Does Penn even have a football field?


Yes. Franklin Field. Hot as hell on that thing during commencement, sitting in the sun in a cap and gown.

/Penn =/= Penn State
 
2013-10-29 09:03:01 AM

cman: WTF Indeed: cman: Penn should have been shut down

Simple as that

Whatever you say, Sandusky-appeaser.

PSU should have shutdown, all students and alumni rounded up and burned at the stake, and then the entire town of State College razed, and the earth salted so nothing could grow there.

When an organization is involved or covers up deplorable felonious activity that organization forfeits its right to exist

Thats just what I think


If by "organization", you mean a few top-level bureaucrats, then sure, by all means shut down Penn for the crimes of Penn State.
 
2013-10-29 09:15:43 AM

dragonchild: Does Penn even have a football field?


Two levels, seats like 50,000.  I don't know but I wouldn't be surprised if it's the biggest one in the division formerly known as AA.
 
2013-10-29 09:21:44 AM

WTF Indeed: PSU should have shutdown, all students and alumni rounded up and burned at the stake, and then the entire town of State College razed, and the earth salted so nothing could grow there.


This.

What does this Sandusky thing have to do with it though?
 
2013-10-29 09:22:12 AM

dragonchild: cman: Penn should have been shut down

Does Penn even have a football field?


dormivigilia.files.wordpress.com

It's got a cool looking track around it too. They should have some sort of big event that uses it. Maybe a big relay race or something.
 
2013-10-29 09:33:09 AM

Donnchadha: It's got a cool looking track around it too. They should have some sort of big event that uses it. Maybe a big relay race or something.


I've heard of that Relay carnival held at Penn.  Can't for the life of me remember what it is called, though.

cman: Penn should have been shut down

Simple as that


For someone so energized by this story, you should certainly have figured out that Penn State was the scene of the crimes.
 
2013-10-29 09:33:46 AM

rjakobi: cman: WTF Indeed: cman: Penn should have been shut down

Simple as that

Whatever you say, Sandusky-appeaser.

PSU should have shutdown, all students and alumni rounded up and burned at the stake, and then the entire town of State College razed, and the earth salted so nothing could grow there.

When an organization is involved or covers up deplorable felonious activity that organization forfeits its right to exist

Thats just what I think

If by "organization", you mean a few top-level bureaucrats, then sure, by all means shut down Penn for the crimes of Penn State.


If by a "a few top-level" bureaucrats you mean the very people who are tasked with ensuring the safety of those that step on campus for a school sanctioned event put on by an employee of the school, but instead covered up child rape.

There is no way to spin this, the people at Penn State who had the responsibility to protect these children failed on every level in order to protect FOOTBALL and JOE PA. The fact that anyone defends JOE PA or the football program shows how disgusting and vile some people in this country are, and it shows a huge lack of self awareness. If the fans actually were willing to hold FOOTBALL accountable by boycotting the games and supporting PSU in other sports or with their money going to academics, it wouldn't tick me off. However, because their fans are callow and weak-willed, PSU gets away with covering up their crimes in the name of FOOTBALL.
 
2013-10-29 09:40:48 AM

factoryconnection: Donnchadha: It's got a cool looking track around it too. They should have some sort of big event that uses it. Maybe a big relay race or something.

I've heard of that Relay carnival held at Penn.  Can't for the life of me remember what it is called, though.

cman: Penn should have been shut down

Simple as that

For someone so energized by this story, you should certainly have figured out that Penn State was the scene of the crimes.


Well EXCUSE ME!

I don't keep up on NCAA football. To me Penn and Penn State are the same damn thing.

/Would probably know the difference if I was a foosball fan
 
2013-10-29 09:43:19 AM

cman: I don't keep up on NCAA football. To me Penn and Penn State are the same damn thing.

/Would probably know the difference if I was a foosball fan


One is an Ivy League school. One is definitely not.
 
2013-10-29 09:43:32 AM
As a Quaker alum, I did not get a big kick out of the headline....
 
2013-10-29 09:43:36 AM

zeroman987: rjakobi: cman: WTF Indeed: cman: Penn should have been shut down

Simple as that

Whatever you say, Sandusky-appeaser.

PSU should have shutdown, all students and alumni rounded up and burned at the stake, and then the entire town of State College razed, and the earth salted so nothing could grow there.

When an organization is involved or covers up deplorable felonious activity that organization forfeits its right to exist

Thats just what I think

If by "organization", you mean a few top-level bureaucrats, then sure, by all means shut down Penn for the crimes of Penn State.

If by a "a few top-level" bureaucrats you mean the very people who are tasked with ensuring the safety of those that step on campus for a school sanctioned event put on by an employee of the school, but instead covered up child rape.

There is no way to spin this, the people at Penn State who had the responsibility to protect these children failed on every level in order to protect FOOTBALL and JOE PA. The fact that anyone defends JOE PA or the football program shows how disgusting and vile some people in this country are, and it shows a huge lack of self awareness. If the fans actually were willing to hold FOOTBALL accountable by boycotting the games and supporting PSU in other sports or with their money going to academics, it wouldn't tick me off. However, because their fans are callow and weak-willed, PSU gets away with covering up their crimes in the name of FOOTBALL.


soooo ... not a fan, huh?
Tell us how you feel about the US government, since you're obviously on a roll.
 
2013-10-29 09:46:26 AM

dragonchild: cman: Penn should have been shut down

Does Penn even have a football field?


They sure do. One of the oldest in the nation in fact. The first one ever with a second deck.  Not only that, Franklin field was the nation's most popular for a decade. Penn led the nation in attendance in the 1940's.

The Quakers have played more football games than any other school. John Heisman (he of trophy fame) coached there. John Outland (the other trophy guy) played there. Scores of other All-Americans too. Why trust me? You could look it up. But if you do, remember to look up Penn and not Penn State (looking at subby here). Hurrah for the red and the blue.
 
2013-10-29 09:46:50 AM

cman: I don't keep up on NCAA football. To me Penn and Penn State are the same damn thing.


They're literally different universities in different cities.
 
2013-10-29 09:52:13 AM

you have pee hands: cman: I don't keep up on NCAA football. To me Penn and Penn State are the same damn thing.

They're literally different universities in different cities.


It is okay to be ignorant as long as you are righteously so.  Hell, that's the GOP motto here in Dixie.
 
2013-10-29 10:29:37 AM

factoryconnection: you have pee hands: cman: I don't keep up on NCAA football. To me Penn and Penn State are the same damn thing.

They're literally different universities in different cities.

It is okay to be ignorant as long as you are righteously so.  Hell, that's the GOP motto here in Dixie.


You were on a roll until you decided to go politics-tab-derp on it.
 
2013-10-29 10:34:56 AM
Paying a high price for Sandusky, Penn is

Which is a shame since he never coached there
 
2013-10-29 10:42:34 AM

you have pee hands: I don't know but I wouldn't be surprised if it's the biggest one in the division formerly known as AA.


Who watches dry drunks play football?
 
2013-10-29 10:59:18 AM
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/Oblig?
 
2013-10-29 11:45:42 AM

cman: Penn should have been shut down

Simple as that


First of all, it's Penn State.  Penn is the University of Pennsylvania.

Secondly, you're going to shut down an entire land-grant university over this?  I know the internet is full of hyperbole and exaggerated nonsense, but are people really still pushing this childish line?
 
2013-10-29 11:46:57 AM

factoryconnection: Donnchadha: It's got a cool looking track around it too. They should have some sort of big event that uses it. Maybe a big relay race or something.

I've heard of that Relay carnival held at Penn.  Can't for the life of me remember what it is called, though.

cman: Penn should have been shut down

Simple as that

For someone so energized by this story, you should certainly have figured out that Penn State was the scene of the crimes.


This is 'Murica.  Details are for pussies.
 
2013-10-29 11:48:05 AM
Normally, I would ridicule  subby for confusing Penn and Penn State, but if he got it right the joke wouldn't work.  So I won't worry.

you have pee hands: dragonchild: Does Penn even have a football field?

Two levels, seats like 50,000.  I don't know but I wouldn't be surprised if it's the biggest one in the division formerly known as AA.


Penn has the fourth biggest stadium in FCS, behind Tennessee State, Yale, and Jackson State.

The Ivy League has three of the five biggest stadiums in FCS and five of the top ten.  I know that's because Ivy League football used to be a big deal, but that's still surprising to me.
 
2013-10-29 11:48:29 AM

Great_Milenko: cman: Penn should have been shut down

Simple as that

First of all, it's Penn State.  Penn is the University of Pennsylvania.

Secondly, you're going to shut down an entire land-grant university over this?  I know the internet is full of hyperbole and exaggerated nonsense, but are people really still pushing this childish line?


I certainly don't hear people screaming for turning Vatican City into a Wal-Mart.
 
2013-10-29 11:50:09 AM

Chelle82: dragonchild: cman: Penn should have been shut down

Does Penn even have a football field?

They sure do. One of the oldest in the nation in fact. The first one ever with a second deck.  Not only that, Franklin field was the nation's most popular for a decade. Penn led the nation in attendance in the 1940's.

The Quakers have played more football games than any other school. John Heisman (he of trophy fame) coached there. John Outland (the other trophy guy) played there. Scores of other All-Americans too. Why trust me? You could look it up. But if you do, remember to look up Penn and not Penn State (looking at subby here). Hurrah for the red and the blue.


Was actually there for the Penn-Yale game last Saturday b/c my wife and I were visiting friends in King of Prussia. She was like, "why on earth is the stadium so big when there's hardly anyone here?" Had to explain that from about 1890 to about 1950 Penn was the equivalent to Alabama or Ohio State today. The move to the Ivy League in the mid-1950's was actually highly controversial at the time since it basically killed off a major source of revenue (and pride) for the University. But I don't think anyone would argue today that it wasn't the right call.

And let's not forget one of the most infamous moments in Philly history took place there when Santa Claus was booed at the halftime of an Eagles game.

Oh yeah, Penn won the game 28-17 and now is in good position to repeat as Ivy League champs.
 
2013-10-29 11:56:47 AM

Great_Milenko: cman: Penn should have been shut down

Simple as that

First of all, it's Penn State.  Penn is the University of Pennsylvania.

Secondly, you're going to shut down an entire land-grant university over this?  I know the internet is full of hyperbole and exaggerated nonsense, but are people really still pushing this childish line?


...I'm sure there are people who sincerely still believe the entire town of State College should be nuked from orbit...
 
2013-10-29 12:01:55 PM
i.qkme.me
 
2013-10-29 12:13:42 PM

llortcM_yllort: Normally, I would ridicule  subby for confusing Penn and Penn State, but if he got it right the joke wouldn't work.  So I won't worry.


Indeed. The Penn is mightier.
 
2013-10-29 12:24:39 PM

BKITU: llortcM_yllort: Normally, I would ridicule  subby for confusing Penn and Penn State, but if he got it right the joke wouldn't work.  So I won't worry.

Indeed. The Penn is mightier.


what you did there ...
+1
 
2013-10-29 12:48:20 PM

Angry Drunk Bureaucrat: WTF Indeed: PSU should have shutdown, all students and alumni rounded up and burned at the stake, and then the entire town of State College razed, and the earth salted so nothing could grow there.

This.

What does this Sandusky thing have to do with it though?


lulz
 
2013-10-29 02:35:03 PM

Great_Milenko: cman: Penn should have been shut down

Simple as that

First of all, it's Penn State.  Penn is the University of Pennsylvania.

Secondly, you're going to shut down an entire land-grant university over this?  I know the internet is full of hyperbole and exaggerated nonsense, but are people really still pushing this childish line?


Penn State is forever equated with officially sanctioned pedophilia and child rape.  Whenever anyone sees anything related to Penn State, they immediately think of the phrase "rhythmic slapping sounds".

The world will survive without Penn State, somehow.

/I like the demolition/earth-salting idea
 
2013-10-29 02:41:34 PM
i.i.cbsi.com
 
2013-10-29 03:36:24 PM

PainInTheASP: Wow, a dick headline that's actually funny.


I'm slow today. I thought subby was going for a Yoda tone, and I couldn't figure it out.

/durr
 
2013-10-29 04:28:48 PM

Angry Drunk Bureaucrat: cman: I don't keep up on NCAA football. To me Penn and Penn State are the same damn thing.

/Would probably know the difference if I was a foosball fan

One is an Ivy League school. One is definitely not.


One is BARELY an Ivy League school
 
2013-10-29 05:57:06 PM

HaywoodJablonski: Angry Drunk Bureaucrat: cman: I don't keep up on NCAA football. To me Penn and Penn State are the same damn thing.

/Would probably know the difference if I was a foosball fan

One is an Ivy League school. One is definitely not.

One is BARELY an Ivy League school


I suppose that explains the #7 USNWR ranking and the fact that Penn has the second wealthiest alumni base behind Harvard.
 
2013-10-29 06:06:32 PM

iamskibibitz: HaywoodJablonski: Angry Drunk Bureaucrat: cman: I don't keep up on NCAA football. To me Penn and Penn State are the same damn thing.

/Would probably know the difference if I was a foosball fan

One is an Ivy League school. One is definitely not.

One is BARELY an Ivy League school

I suppose that explains the #7 USNWR ranking and the fact that Penn has the second wealthiest alumni base behind Harvard.


Yep. The 5th best Ivy on the list. So.... Congrats I guess?
 
2013-10-29 07:58:32 PM

HaywoodJablonski: iamskibibitz: HaywoodJablonski: Angry Drunk Bureaucrat: cman: I don't keep up on NCAA football. To me Penn and Penn State are the same damn thing.

/Would probably know the difference if I was a foosball fan

One is an Ivy League school. One is definitely not.

One is BARELY an Ivy League school

I suppose that explains the #7 USNWR ranking and the fact that Penn has the second wealthiest alumni base behind Harvard.

Yep. The 5th best Ivy on the list. So.... Congrats I guess?


Look I'd love to make a knock on UPenn, but considering my alma mater only breaks the top 75 when the list is being charitable I won't.

/Ok one quick one
//UPenn: We're not Cornell!
 
2013-10-29 08:13:44 PM

cman: factoryconnection: Donnchadha: It's got a cool looking track around it too. They should have some sort of big event that uses it. Maybe a big relay race or something.

I've heard of that Relay carnival held at Penn.  Can't for the life of me remember what it is called, though.

cman: Penn should have been shut down

Simple as that

For someone so energized by this story, you should certainly have figured out that Penn State was the scene of the crimes.

Well EXCUSE ME!

I don't keep up on NCAA football. To me Penn and Penn State are the same damn thing.

/Would probably know the difference if I was a foosball fan


Not everything in life is about football, sunshine. Especially given the fact that Benjamin Franklin founded UPenn back in 1740.
 
2013-10-29 08:15:35 PM

WTF Indeed: cman: Penn should have been shut down

Simple as that

Whatever you say, Sandusky-appeaser.

PSU should have shutdown, all students and alumni rounded up and burned at the stake, and then the entire town of State College razed, and the earth salted so nothing could grow there.


One of you against hundreds of thousands. Wow, pretty tough talk there from your keyboard, Nancy.
 
2013-10-29 08:57:49 PM

HaywoodJablonski: iamskibibitz: HaywoodJablonski: Angry Drunk Bureaucrat: cman: I don't keep up on NCAA football. To me Penn and Penn State are the same damn thing.

/Would probably know the difference if I was a foosball fan

One is an Ivy League school. One is definitely not.

One is BARELY an Ivy League school

I suppose that explains the #7 USNWR ranking and the fact that Penn has the second wealthiest alumni base behind Harvard.

Yep. The 5th best Ivy on the list. So.... Congrats I guess?



Penn has been fluctuating between 5th and 8th on the US News List, 4th or 5th among Ivys, for the past 15 years or so, and that fluctuation is mostly due to US News' random emphasis on certain categories from year to year.  If I'm not mistaken, Penn tied Yale once or twice.  It is very solidly in the tier just below Harvard-Yale-Princeton, so to say it is "barely" an Ivy is utilizing a very un-Ivy-like definition of "barely."

/Hurrah
//Hurrah
///Pennsylvan-i-ah
 
2013-10-29 09:05:06 PM

nein: HaywoodJablonski: iamskibibitz: HaywoodJablonski: Angry Drunk Bureaucrat: cman: I don't keep up on NCAA football. To me Penn and Penn State are the same damn thing.

/Would probably know the difference if I was a foosball fan

One is an Ivy League school. One is definitely not.

One is BARELY an Ivy League school

I suppose that explains the #7 USNWR ranking and the fact that Penn has the second wealthiest alumni base behind Harvard.

Yep. The 5th best Ivy on the list. So.... Congrats I guess?


Penn has been fluctuating between 5th and 8th on the US News List, 4th or 5th among Ivys, for the past 15 years or so, and that fluctuation is mostly due to US News' random emphasis on certain categories from year to year.  If I'm not mistaken, Penn tied Yale once or twice.  It is very solidly in the tier just below Harvard-Yale-Princeton, so to say it is "barely" an Ivy is utilizing a very un-Ivy-like definition of "barely."

/Hurrah
//Hurrah
///Pennsylvan-i-ah


And below Columbia. You conveniently ignored that one.

/Roar, Lion, Roar
 
2013-10-29 09:34:39 PM

HaywoodJablonski: nein: HaywoodJablonski: iamskibibitz: HaywoodJablonski: Angry Drunk Bureaucrat: cman: I don't keep up on NCAA football. To me Penn and Penn State are the same damn thing.

/Would probably know the difference if I was a foosball fan

One is an Ivy League school. One is definitely not.

One is BARELY an Ivy League school

I suppose that explains the #7 USNWR ranking and the fact that Penn has the second wealthiest alumni base behind Harvard.

Yep. The 5th best Ivy on the list. So.... Congrats I guess?


Penn has been fluctuating between 5th and 8th on the US News List, 4th or 5th among Ivys, for the past 15 years or so, and that fluctuation is mostly due to US News' random emphasis on certain categories from year to year.  If I'm not mistaken, Penn tied Yale once or twice.  It is very solidly in the tier just below Harvard-Yale-Princeton, so to say it is "barely" an Ivy is utilizing a very un-Ivy-like definition of "barely."

/Hurrah
//Hurrah
///Pennsylvan-i-ah

And below Columbia. You conveniently ignored that one.

/Roar, Lion, Roar


No, there was no convenient ignoring.  Penn has ranked above Columbia quite often over the last 15 years.  Columbia jumped ahead of Penn last year (#4 vs #5) and they topped Penn again this year, but they certainly cannot be considered in a clear class above Penn.  Columbia and Penn are easily in the same tier.
 
2013-10-29 10:00:56 PM

cman: PSU should have shutdown, all students and alumni rounded up and burned at the stake, and then the entire town of State College razed, and the earth salted so nothing could grow there.

When an organization is involved or covers up deplorable felonious activity that organization forfeits its right to exist

Thats just what I think


The death penalty would've been extreme for PSU; they got what they deserved.  If the student body and the alumni wanna get pissed at someone, they should take a page from the kids at SMU and get angry at this officials for letting it get that far.
 
2013-10-29 10:54:27 PM
What does Sandusky have to do with University of Pennsylvania?
 
2013-10-29 11:19:00 PM

OhioUGrad: What does Sandusky have to do with University of Pennsylvania?


That's exactly something I'd expect a Buckeye to ask....
 
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