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(NBC News)   Tennessee man arrested at JFK airport with two handguns and a loaded rifle. Or as they call it in Tennessee, just packing for the weekend   (usnews.nbcnews.com) divider line 80
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2013-10-29 08:59:19 AM
two handguns and a loaded rifle

Pfft. Liberal.
 
2013-10-29 09:24:32 AM
Who: Keenan Draughon of Clarksville, Tenn.
What: arrested at security check
When: 8 a.m. local time on Saturday
Where:  JFK airport
Why:

Five questions, news guy, that's it, and of course you skip the hard one.  Was he trying to check them?  Was he laying them on the conveyor?  Is this something that would be legal anywhere besides NYC and DC?
 
2013-10-29 09:36:59 AM
Again?
 
2013-10-29 09:37:22 AM
Clarksville and Murfreesboro should be reclassified.  There's a whole lot of idiot in those two cities.
 
2013-10-29 09:37:38 AM
Yes, this guy is a dumbass, but he's just a dumbass. He's not a terrorist.
 
2013-10-29 09:37:47 AM

belhade: Again?


He didn't learn the first time.
 
2013-10-29 09:39:05 AM

AverageAmericanGuy: Yes, this guy is a dumbass, but he's just a dumbass. He's not a terrorist.


You'd have to be a really, really convincing zealot to get away with that purple AK at the Al Qaeda chapter meeting.
 
2013-10-29 09:39:43 AM
A gun isn't much good if it isn't loaded. Like a car without gas.
 
2013-10-29 09:39:53 AM

factoryconnection: Who: Keenan Draughon of Clarksville, Tenn.
What: arrested at security check
When: 8 a.m. local time on Saturday
Where:  JFK airport
Why:

Five questions, news guy, that's it, and of course you skip the hard one.  Was he trying to check them?  Was he laying them on the conveyor?  Is this something that would be legal anywhere besides NYC and DC?


Nope, just another dumb ass who chooses not to review the firearms laws of the state he's visiting. Not like it's hard to figure out this isn't a unique story for folks leaving JFK/LaGuardia.
 
2013-10-29 09:39:53 AM
This seems like the 5th time this has happened? damn, lots of purple guns.
 
2013-10-29 09:42:20 AM

AverageAmericanGuy: Yes, this guy is a dumbass, but he's just a dumbass. He's not a terrorist.


An average American guy?
 
2013-10-29 09:43:43 AM

factoryconnection: Who: Keenan Draughon of Clarksville, Tenn.
What: arrested at security check
When: 8 a.m. local time on Saturday
Where:  JFK airport
Why:

Five questions, news guy, that's it, and of course you skip the hard one.  Was he trying to check them?  Was he laying them on the conveyor?  Is this something that would be legal anywhere besides NYC and DC?


The guns were in checked luggage. Fed rules say no loaded guns, has nothing to due with NY. Though that's not to say he won't see state level charges. The scratched off serial numbers might be bad for him as well.
 
2013-10-29 09:44:19 AM
Assuming that Draughon was simply in JFK airport catching a connecting flight, he should be covered by the safe passage provision of the FOPA.  Then again, like any New York court would rule against local gun control laws.

If he was living or staying in New York, then that's a different story and he's probably boned.
 
2013-10-29 09:46:53 AM
Scary tag?  Seriously?
 
2013-10-29 09:47:18 AM
Have fun at Rikers.
 
2013-10-29 09:47:49 AM

lack of warmth: belhade: Again?

He didn't learn the first time.


What's with all these hicks in NYC with purple guns all of a sudden?
 
2013-10-29 09:48:01 AM

HotWingConspiracy: The scratched off serial numbers might be bad for him as well.


Another story on this incident stated that the paint on the two guns counts as defacement.  I haven't seen any story say that the numbers were actually removed.
 
2013-10-29 09:48:09 AM

HotWingConspiracy: The guns were in checked luggage. Fed rules say no loaded guns, has nothing to due with NY. Though that's not to say he won't see state level charges. The scratched off serial numbers might be bad for him as well.


Checked, huh?  Not mentioned in the article.  The serial numbers missing... yeah I can see "defaced" as meaning that, or he could have written "with the serial numbers obliterated."  Federal charges v. state charges?  Those were city police; the story doesn't say.  Obviously you can't have a loaded rifle at any airport anywhere, but he was booked on six felony charges and the loaded rifle likely only counts for two.

I'm not really critiquing that he was arrested for breaking firearms law, but the story could have covered all this fairly easily had the writer even freaking bothered to ask a freaking question or two.
 
2013-10-29 09:50:00 AM

State_College_Arsonist: If he was living or staying in New York, then that's a different story and he's probably boned.


He was at security... you don't go through there if you're connecting.

State_College_Arsonist: Another story on this incident stated that the paint on the two guns counts as defacement. I haven't seen any story say that the numbers were actually removed.


Exactly.  That purple paint counts as defacement on anything more valuable than a pre-school art project.
 
2013-10-29 09:50:24 AM

State_College_Arsonist: HotWingConspiracy: The scratched off serial numbers might be bad for him as well.

Another story on this incident stated that the paint on the two guns counts as defacement.  I haven't seen any story say that the numbers were actually removed.


Ah yeah it's kind of unclear, the statement I read said they were "missing" serial numbers.
 
2013-10-29 09:54:29 AM
He's probably also going to get a talking to from the ATF on those guns.
 
2013-10-29 09:54:57 AM
Filming Next of Kin II?
(Patrick Swayze, may he rest in peace)
 
2013-10-29 09:55:37 AM
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2013-10-29 09:57:12 AM
my S.O. once tried to take w33d through security at Amsterdam airport. which is obviously a place where they're totally unpractised at finding it.

not a good day.

in fairness to him he wasnt actively trying to smuggle. we were super tired and super late for the flight and he just forgot to dump it in the airport trash.

still absolutely no fun at all though
 
2013-10-29 09:59:30 AM
He was looking for the tree that grows in Brooklyn to kill a bar agin.
 
2013-10-29 10:03:09 AM
What's with the purple? Seriously? Just put a couple of Hello Kitty stickers on it then and go whole hog.

And WTF was that silver thing in the bottom case in the picture, a ray gun?
 
2013-10-29 10:05:24 AM

factoryconnection: He was at security... you don't go through there if you're connecting.


There have been previous incidents where people had to take possession of their checked luggage due to missed and/or cancelled flights, and had to re-check the luggage for a different flight or carrier.  It's happened enough times that gun enthusiast websites have advised against taking back your luggage if something like that would happen in anti-gun states.
 
2013-10-29 10:07:13 AM

HotWingConspiracy: The scratched off serial numbers might be bad for him as well.


yeah that's a big no no
 
2013-10-29 10:09:38 AM

State_College_Arsonist: It's happened enough times that gun enthusiast websites have advised against taking back your luggage if something like that would happen in anti-gun states.


Hmm... these seem like points that the journalist could have addressed.  I even clicked into a "related" link in TFA and found the same lack of information.
 
2013-10-29 10:12:08 AM

HotWingConspiracy: The scratched off serial numbers might be bad for him as well.


You mean the ones with paint on them?  Christ, people must crap their pants in New York when a gun gets Duracoat sprayed on it.
 
2013-10-29 10:13:11 AM
Don't worry folks, the NYDN comes to the rescue: http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/police-jfk-arrest-man-packing-gun s -checked-luggage-article-1.1498030

Checked luggage screening revealed the cased weapons, and two of them had their serial numbers defaced.  There were high-cap magazines as well.  He was arrested because of what was found in the checked luggage, with no weapons on his person.

This was a NYC infringement, with I'd say the possibility of a federal charge for the serial numbers being obliterated.
 
2013-10-29 10:13:54 AM

Molavian: HotWingConspiracy: The scratched off serial numbers might be bad for him as well.

You mean the ones with paint on them?  Christ, people must crap their pants in New York when a gun gets Duracoat sprayed on it.


Take it down a level, slapchop. The statement I read said they were missing.
 
2013-10-29 10:17:01 AM

factoryconnection: Obviously you can't have a loaded rifle at any airport anywhere


But under New York Law, "loaded" is not the same as actually with bullets in the gun.

15. "Loaded firearm" means any firearm loaded with ammunition or any firearm which is possessed by one who, at the same time, possesses a quantity of ammunition which may be used to discharge such firearm. - See more at: http://codes.lp.findlaw.com/nycode/PEN/THREE/P/265/265.00#sthash.PGIJu Hi5.dpuf


In other words, his "loaded" rifle was just in his possession at the same time as bullets that fit said rifle. They could have been in separate locked boxes.
 
2013-10-29 10:17:04 AM

HotLonelyTeenageGirl: Nope, just another dumb ass who chooses not to review the firearms laws of the state he's visiting. Not like it's hard to figure out this isn't a unique story for folks leaving JFK/LaGuardia.


Except the exact same thing could have happened to someone who followed every law if the flight happened to get diverted to New York. That didn't happen here, but the point is that a law that turns people into felons for something that's not in their control is pretty much the definition of unjust. New York is the problem. (And DC, which fortunately doesn't have an airport)
 
2013-10-29 10:17:36 AM
Not enough information to determine if we are seeing a typical media overreaction to an otherwise innocent traveler, or a thwarted terrorist plot.

But based on how I know the media treats anything involving firearms, I'm leaning towards the former.
 
2013-10-29 10:18:31 AM
This would of been no problem 150 years ago taking a stagecoach.
 
2013-10-29 10:19:33 AM

JustHereForThePics: Not enough information to determine if we are seeing a typical media overreaction to an otherwise innocent traveler, or a thwarted terrorist plot.

But based on how I know the media treats anything involving firearms, I'm leaning towards the former.


He was innocent aside from the laws he broke.
 
2013-10-29 10:22:03 AM

HotWingConspiracy: He was innocent aside from the laws he broke.


Ha ha.  The serial number thing, of course not really mentioned in TFA, is the big red flag no matter where he was.  The rest was NYC-specific and warranted more details on how he ended up there (connection, redirection, or checking in, etc...).
 
2013-10-29 10:22:47 AM
He was just trying to protect cowardly liberal hippies with what he learned from the Zimmerman street justice book: how to profile and protect.
 
2013-10-29 10:23:51 AM

JustHereForThePics: Not enough information to determine if we are seeing a typical media overreaction to an otherwise innocent traveler, or a thwarted terrorist plot.


It's NYC. I'm surprised they didn't add "felonious assault on an officer" because he didn't give the brave heroes who arrested him blowjobs. Blue balls is no laughing matter, you know.
 
2013-10-29 10:23:53 AM

HotWingConspiracy: Molavian: HotWingConspiracy: The scratched off serial numbers might be bad for him as well.

You mean the ones with paint on them?  Christ, people must crap their pants in New York when a gun gets Duracoat sprayed on it.

Take it down a level, slapchop. The statement I read said they were missing.


They were painted over, not removed
 
2013-10-29 10:24:27 AM
OK, other articles saying serial numbers defaced.

If accurate, traveler is an idiot.

But again, leaning towards misinformation or assumption on media's part. I can see the police stating "defaced" and the reporters assuming that meant serial numbers.
 
2013-10-29 10:31:38 AM

factoryconnection: HotWingConspiracy: He was innocent aside from the laws he broke.

Ha ha.  The serial number thing, of course not really mentioned in TFA, is the big red flag no matter where he was.  The rest was NYC-specific and warranted more details on how he ended up there (connection, redirection, or checking in, etc...).


The Times article said he was visiting family "in the NY area".
 
2013-10-29 10:31:59 AM

Elegy: They were painted over, not removed

FTA: Handguns are illegal to carry in New York without a permit and the high volume of rifle and handgun ammunition allegedly found in Draughon's bag is also illegal in New York, he said.  The .22-caliber rifles, one loaded, were painted over, illegally obscuring the serial numbers, Pentangelo said.


Well at least someone at Reuters bothered to get a bit more of the story.  He was in NYC and went to the airport, and is apparently charged with illegally possessing un-permitted weapons (2xhandguns, 2xHi-cap mags) and 2 serial-number-defaced rifles.
 
2013-10-29 10:33:02 AM

HotWingConspiracy: The Times article said he was visiting family "in the NY area".


I hear you... that's good for the NYT and its readers, but NBCNY didn't bother at all to fill in those gaps.
 
2013-10-29 10:33:50 AM
Considering that Clarksville is right next door to Ft. Campbell, KY, I would say the chances are high that this guy might be current/former US Army.  .
 
2013-10-29 10:34:15 AM

Taxcheat: HotLonelyTeenageGirl: Nope, just another dumb ass who chooses not to review the firearms laws of the state he's visiting. Not like it's hard to figure out this isn't a unique story for folks leaving JFK/LaGuardia.

Except the exact same thing could have happened to someone who followed every law if the flight happened to get diverted to New York. That didn't happen here, but the point is that a law that turns people into felons for something that's not in their control is pretty much the definition of unjust. New York is the problem. (And DC, which fortunately doesn't have an airport)


How is choosing to fly not in their control?
 
2013-10-29 10:36:17 AM

factoryconnection: HotWingConspiracy: The Times article said he was visiting family "in the NY area".

I hear you... that's good for the NYT and its readers, but NBCNY didn't bother at all to fill in those gaps.


Yeah I don't even bother with crap tier news sites anymore, you're only ever getting bits of the story. Sometimes by design.
 
2013-10-29 10:38:03 AM

HotWingConspiracy: factoryconnection: Who: Keenan Draughon of Clarksville, Tenn.
What: arrested at security check
When: 8 a.m. local time on Saturday
Where:  JFK airport
Why:

Five questions, news guy, that's it, and of course you skip the hard one.  Was he trying to check them?  Was he laying them on the conveyor?  Is this something that would be legal anywhere besides NYC and DC?

The guns were in checked luggage. Fed rules say no loaded guns, has nothing to due with NY. Though that's not to say he won't see state level charges. The scratched off serial numbers might be bad for him as well.


Could be just painted over in purple and not scratched off......

There is a reason cops don't want body cams recording everything they see and do.
 
2013-10-29 10:40:26 AM

State_College_Arsonist: he should be covered by the safe passage provision of the FOPA


Ruled to not apply to airports.

Or NY does not honor it through some sort of anti supremecy clause thing they have in their state....forgot the term for it.
 
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