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2013-10-28 07:45:56 PM
This means switching to either oil or natural gas. Guess what the is going to do prices on the global market
 
2013-10-28 07:52:15 PM

hasty ambush: This means switching to either oil or natural gas. Guess what the is going to do prices on the global market


Guess what hydraulic fracturing will be doing to prices at the same time, but in the other direction?
 
2013-10-28 09:56:32 PM

omnibus_necanda_sunt: hasty ambush: This means switching to either oil or natural gas. Guess what the is going to do prices on the global market

Guess what hydraulic fracturing will be doing to prices at the same time, but in the other direction?


China's could be a very big market, if they are serious about this and will impact supplies. Besides prices cannot get too low or fracking won't pay for itself.
 
2013-10-28 10:00:44 PM
Likely what's going to happen is power in China is going to go all NIMBY. The big cities and areas where the rich and powerful live (Shanghai, Beijing, Guangzhou and the like) will ban coal plants, and they will be forced to spring up in poor areas and still power the big cities. It's the way the world moves.
 
2013-10-28 10:37:08 PM
I'll believe it when I see it...

hasty ambush: This means switching to either oil or natural gas. Guess what the is going to do prices on the global market


This is China we're talking about, they'll go full nuclear...

FOR CHINA!!!
 
2013-10-28 10:38:13 PM
They'll go electric. Powered by coal burned just outside the cities.
 
2013-10-28 10:38:56 PM

hasty ambush: This means switching to either oil or natural gas. Guess what the is going to do prices on the global market


Maybe.  They also have 13 nuclear power stations operating now, are building 27, plan another 50, and 110 are in the proposal stage.
 
2013-10-28 10:39:18 PM

ArkAngel: Likely what's going to happen is power in China is going to go all NIMBY. The big cities and areas where the rich and powerful live (Shanghai, Beijing, Guangzhou and the like) will ban coal plants, and they will be forced to spring up in poor areas and still power the big cities. It's the way the world moves.

I gotta agree.

 
2013-10-28 10:39:48 PM

KellyX: I'll believe it when I see it...

hasty ambush: This means switching to either oil or natural gas. Guess what the is going to do prices on the global market

This is China we're talking about, they'll go full nuclear...

FOR CHINA!!!


www.cncden.com

Artist Depiction of Chinese Plans

/they'll build like a dozen of them...
 
2013-10-28 10:41:15 PM

SwiftFox: hasty ambush: This means switching to either oil or natural gas. Guess what the is going to do prices on the global market

Maybe.  They also have 13 nuclear power stations operating now, are building 27, plan another 50, and 110 are in the proposal stage.


This
 
2013-10-28 10:42:01 PM

SwiftFox: hasty ambush: This means switching to either oil or natural gas. Guess what the is going to do prices on the global market

Maybe.  They also have 13 nuclear power stations operating now, are building 27, plan another 50, and 110 are in the proposal stage.


Talking about china just reminds me of Sim City for some reason.
 
2013-10-28 10:43:05 PM

ArkAngel: Likely what's going to happen is power in China is going to go all NIMBY. The big cities and areas where the rich and powerful live (Shanghai, Beijing, Guangzhou and the like) will ban coal plants, and they will be forced to spring up in poor areas and still power the big cities. It's the way the world moves.


Which isn't all that far off from what we do.  A lot of very 'eco-conscious' markets here in the US just import their power.  Try to build a wind farm in Martha's Vineyard?  No farming way?  But if you build a coal or oil or nuke plant in the middle of New York and ship the power over, that's just fine.  As long as it doesn't pollute my neighborhood.
 
2013-10-28 10:43:11 PM
China cities are so polluted. The Conference Dept. at my job had an event in Beijing. A lot of coworkers didn't even want to leave the hotel, the air was so bad. And a guy from IT went sightseeing, and then for the next three or four days he had problems breathing and his eyes were giving him problems.
 
2013-10-28 10:43:20 PM
What about clean coal?
 
2013-10-28 10:43:36 PM

KellyX: KellyX: I'll believe it when I see it...

hasty ambush: This means switching to either oil or natural gas. Guess what the is going to do prices on the global market

This is China we're talking about, they'll go full nuclear...

FOR CHINA!!!

[www.cncden.com image 412x455]

Artist Depiction of Chinese Plans

/they'll build like a dozen of them...


That's pretty farking small.
 
2013-10-28 10:44:57 PM

simplicimus: KellyX: KellyX: I'll believe it when I see it...

hasty ambush: This means switching to either oil or natural gas. Guess what the is going to do prices on the global market

This is China we're talking about, they'll go full nuclear...

FOR CHINA!!!

[www.cncden.com image 412x455]

Artist Depiction of Chinese Plans

/they'll build like a dozen of them...

That's pretty farking small.


But it would allow for many factories and barracks!!!! Not to mention a bunch of air bases!!!!
 
2013-10-28 10:47:30 PM
To be replaced by:

i260.photobucket.com
 
2013-10-28 10:48:28 PM

JerkyMeat: What about "clean" coal?


FTFY.
 
2013-10-28 10:49:35 PM
Lot of poor people are going to freeze.
 
2013-10-28 10:51:03 PM

Farnn: Lot of poor people are going to freeze.


But then they can grind those meat popsicles up as some kind of herbal traditional recipe for fertility or longevity or natural male enhancement drugs
 
2013-10-28 10:52:42 PM
China is banning coal burning?

THAT"S RACIST!

Didn't read past headline.  I am assuming it is about the slang term for non-black women dating black men.
 
2013-10-28 10:53:05 PM
So... pebble bed reactors?

i2.kym-cdn.com
 
2013-10-28 10:53:51 PM
Meh. I've only got two or three dozen years left stuck here. Doubt it will catch up to me.

Wasn't my fault. I just want to go peacefully.
 
2013-10-28 10:53:57 PM

skinink: China cities are so polluted. The Conference Dept. at my job had an event in Beijing. A lot of coworkers didn't even want to leave the hotel, the air was so bad. And a guy from IT went sightseeing, and then for the next three or four days he had problems breathing and his eyes were giving him problems.


Oh, biatch, biatch, biatch.  What do you want? Clean air or cheap designer tennis outfits and spare parts for your car?

I rest my case.
 
2013-10-28 10:56:15 PM
Can someone explain why the headline says "hin 4 years"?
 
2013-10-28 10:57:17 PM
Peeing in your coke still legal.
 
2013-10-28 10:58:24 PM

2chris2: Can someone explain why the headline says "hin 4 years"?


I was about to ask what the "hin" was. It's pretty clear the black bar is supposed to be the clearing smog.
 
2013-10-28 10:59:42 PM

2chris2: Can someone explain why the headline says "hin 4 years"?


If 4 years, enough smog in China will be gone to allow you to see more than four feet in front of you due to the elimination of coal power

/or something
//not subby
 
2013-10-28 11:00:29 PM

Quantum Apostrophe: I was about to ask what the "hin" was. It's pretty clear the black bar is supposed to be the clearing smog.


My guess is "Within"
 
2013-10-28 11:01:40 PM
Well yeah. Easy to do when the government is all about centralized planning.
 
2013-10-28 11:10:42 PM
Unlikely why? Cause you're farking scared of progress? The Chinese will get this done and continue laughing at us.
 
2013-10-28 11:12:23 PM
4.bp.blogspot.com

Problem?
 
2013-10-28 11:12:31 PM

KellyX: I'll believe it when I see it...

hasty ambush: This means switching to either oil or natural gas. Guess what the is going to do prices on the global market

This is China we're talking about, they'll go full nuclear...


One day in a nuclear age, they may understand our rage.  They build machines that they can't control, and bury the waste in a great big hole.
 
2013-10-28 11:18:46 PM

SwiftFox: They also have 13 nuclear power stations operating now, are building 27, plan another 50, and 110 are in the proposal stage.


In graphical format. (from Stanford)

energyclub.stanford.edu
 
2013-10-28 11:19:28 PM

the_sidewinder: Quantum Apostrophe: I was about to ask what the "hin" was. It's pretty clear the black bar is supposed to be the clearing smog.

My guess is "Within"


hmmm

████████▓▓▒▒░░hin 4 years

That's a lot of space for within.  I'm guessing, "I like balls on my c".  The grammar is a bit off, but it is subby afterall.
 
2013-10-28 11:22:30 PM

hasty ambush: omnibus_necanda_sunt: hasty ambush: This means switching to either oil or natural gas. Guess what the is going to do prices on the global market

Guess what hydraulic fracturing will be doing to prices at the same time, but in the other direction?

China's could be a very big market, if they are serious about this and will impact supplies. Besides prices cannot get too low or fracking won't pay for itself.


This. I shake my head every time someone talks about how fracking will make oil cheap.  Oil gets cheap, fracking stops.
 
2013-10-28 11:31:04 PM

The Irresponsible Captain: In graphical format. (from Stanford)


Does Stanford realize their graphics are hugely exaggerated? Just more than double looks about 8 times the size.
 
2013-10-28 11:31:37 PM
Good thing they aren't trying to export American Coal to China....

Right?

It would be an epic fail of monumental proportions to pour all this money into coal export terminals on the West Coast, only to have the market dissolve when the biggest user of coal in the world decides to start to phase out coal.
 
2013-10-28 11:38:02 PM

omnibus_necanda_sunt: hasty ambush: This means switching to either oil or natural gas. Guess what the is going to do prices on the global market

Guess what hydraulic fracturing will be doing to prices at the same time, but in the other direction?


Guess what that's going to do to water supplies?
 
2013-10-28 11:38:32 PM
That would help explain the sudden interest in fracking.
They're gonna be one of the biggest natural buyers ever.
 
2013-10-28 11:39:09 PM

whatshisname: The Irresponsible Captain: In graphical format. (from Stanford)

Does Stanford realize their graphics are hugely exaggerated? Just more than double looks about 8 times the size.


It's OK, not like graphic conveys useful information like nuclear power plants production as a percentage of total electricity supply, including discrete percentages of power from other sources, or stuff like that.
 
2013-10-28 11:40:15 PM

Mentat: omnibus_necanda_sunt: hasty ambush: This means switching to either oil or natural gas. Guess what the is going to do prices on the global market

Guess what hydraulic fracturing will be doing to prices at the same time, but in the other direction?

Guess what that's going to do to water supplies?


The people who stand to profit the most don't care.
 
2013-10-28 11:41:36 PM

TommyymmoT: That would help explain the sudden interest in fracking.
They're gonna be one of the biggest natural buyers ever.


Pretty sure everybody knew the sludge was not for domestic consumption.
 
2013-10-28 11:44:04 PM

TommyymmoT: Mentat: omnibus_necanda_sunt: hasty ambush: This means switching to either oil or natural gas. Guess what the is going to do prices on the global market

Guess what hydraulic fracturing will be doing to prices at the same time, but in the other direction?

Guess what that's going to do to water supplies?

The people who stand to profit the most don't care.


Here in Texas, the companies deplete aquifers, leave unknown chemicals behind, and destroy paved country roads, without paying a dime in restitution.
 
2013-10-28 11:45:03 PM

cboppert: SwiftFox: hasty ambush: This means switching to either oil or natural gas. Guess what the is going to do prices on the global market

Maybe.  They also have 13 nuclear power stations operating now, are building 27, plan another 50, and 110 are in the proposal stage.

Talking about china just reminds me of Sim City for some reason.


Can we have a huge dinosaur attack the city for our "natural disaster"?
 
2013-10-28 11:47:21 PM
Won't happen.  Demand for energy in China is going up at a huge rate.  There isn't any viable replacement for coal.
 
2013-10-28 11:52:33 PM

hasty ambush: This means switching to either oil or natural gas. Guess what the is going to do prices on the global market


Actually neither...

www.geekrest.com
 
2013-10-28 11:53:43 PM

Bucky Katt: Won't happen.  Demand for energy in China is going up at a huge rate.  There isn't any viable replacement for coal.


Remember... this is China they're talking about. Where there's manpower, there's a way.

www.gotwind.org
 
2013-10-28 11:55:43 PM
That is Jason from Friday The 13th multiplied!

hd4desktop.com
 
2013-10-29 12:03:38 AM
www.china-tour.cn

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Three_Gorges_Dam

22,500 MW, or approximately 10% of their entire power needs.
 
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