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(Jezebel)   With a failure rate of 85%, "magical thinking" is coming up the rear in birth control effectiveness. "Coming up the rear" still running in the low single-digits   (jezebel.com) divider line 134
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2013-10-28 05:09:52 PM
Bravo!

A little too vile for HOTW consideration me supposes.
 
2013-10-28 05:10:15 PM
 
2013-10-28 05:15:09 PM

tuna fingers: Bravo!

A little too vile for HOTW consideration me supposes.


HOTW - define, please. Ignorant hick over here
 
2013-10-28 05:15:53 PM

Clemkadidlefark: tuna fingers: Bravo!

A little too vile for HOTW consideration me supposes.

HOTW - define, please. Ignorant hick over here


Headline of the Week?
 
2013-10-28 05:16:02 PM

Clemkadidlefark: tuna fingers: Bravo!

A little too vile for HOTW consideration me supposes.

HOTW - define, please. Ignorant hick over here


Headline Of The Week.
 
2013-10-28 05:16:05 PM

Clemkadidlefark: tuna fingers: Bravo!

A little too vile for HOTW consideration me supposes.

HOTW - define, please. Ignorant hick over here


Headline of the Week
 
2013-10-28 05:16:16 PM

Clemkadidlefark: tuna fingers: Bravo!

A little too vile for HOTW consideration me supposes.

HOTW - define, please. Ignorant hick over here


Hunk of the week.

Its one of Drews "other" sites.
 
2013-10-28 05:16:17 PM
Ah. Also known as "That sort of thing only happens to OTHER people" syndrome.

Guess what. To everyone else, you ARE 'other people'.

No word on the effectiveness of the mantra "Don't worry, nothing's going to happen" however.

I wonder how many kids have been conceived (not to mention DUIs and more tragic outcomes) under that umbrella...
 
2013-10-28 05:17:35 PM

suziequzie: NSFW


Farting styrofoam peanuts?  That would be awesome!
 
2013-10-28 05:17:50 PM
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2013-10-28 05:17:57 PM
I know a woman who announced she was unexpectedly pregnant. We asked if she missed birth control pills or broke a condom or something and she said, "Oh, no, we don't use protection."

I wanted to facepalm through my skull. You can't say you're unexpectedly pregnant if you're actively doing the thing that gets you pregnant regularly.
 
2013-10-28 05:18:40 PM
An ex-girlfriend was going out with this guy who told her they didn't need to use condoms for sex because his use of marijuana made his sperm count extremely low so most likely she would not get pregnant.

I think it was within a year of them being together she got pregnant and got an abortion.
 
2013-10-28 05:18:46 PM
A friend believed believed she was sterile because she hadn't gotten pregnant with her last boyfriend. Therefore she didn't use protection with the current boyfriend. When she got pregnant her brilliant conclusion?  The previous boyfriend must have been the sterile one!  Reducing abortions is entirely a matter of education.
 
2013-10-28 05:19:05 PM

Clemkadidlefark: tuna fingers: Bravo!

A little too vile for HOTW consideration me supposes.

HOTW - define, please. Ignorant hick over here


I bet its something of the week...
 
2013-10-28 05:20:25 PM
HOTW is like YOLO.
It's all about the owls.
 
2013-10-28 05:24:22 PM

Thelyphthoric: HOTW is like YOLO.
It's all about the owls.


images.wikia.com
 
2013-10-28 05:26:02 PM

skinink: An ex-girlfriend was going out with this guy who told her they didn't need to use condoms for sex because his use of marijuana made his sperm count extremely low so most likely she would not get pregnant.


Yeah, the guitarist in my late 90s band thought that too. His second daughter thanks him for his misconception.
 
2013-10-28 05:26:26 PM

Treygreen13: I know a woman who announced she was unexpectedly pregnant. We asked if she missed birth control pills or broke a condom or something and she said, "Oh, no, we don't use protection."

I wanted to facepalm through my skull. You can't say you're unexpectedly pregnant if you're actively doing the thing that gets you pregnant regularly.


Some girls really like it when the man creampies them.  Honestly I think they're insane but whatever floats their boat.
 
2013-10-28 05:27:09 PM
This is exactly why IUD's are an ideal birth control method, the stupid of the equation is essentially removed. They're highly reliable (nearing surgical sterilization effectiveness rates), very low maintenance, and they last at least half a decade, up to a whole decade. They also are relatively easy to reverse if/when you do want children. If the majority of women of childbearing age had these in the US like European women do, our abortion rates would fall too. No need for abortions if you're not ever unexpectedly pregnant.

Downsides are initial cost and ignorant people thinking that they're abortifacients and maybe heavier periods for a while on the copper ones. They're actually the cheapest long term birth control with it's reliability at about $13.33 a month if paying out of pocket cost for 5 year, and $6.67 a month for the 10 year style. If it's included in health insurance with just a $20-40 co-pay it's extremely cheap.

I had to explain to my grandmother that no, IUDs aren't abortifacients. I explained how both styles available in the US actually work. She thought the Mirena style ones were plastic only and only worked by creating a foreign object that helped somehow expel fertilized eggs. I explained that those actually release synthesized progesterone and explained how copper IUDs work too. She said she was ok with the copper style but she heard from a doctor that the plastic ones were bad. I told her whatever doctor she heard it from was a moron. (I should have added he was a quack if not a moron).

As to TFA, I don't find that all that surprising that women think "magically" about pregnancy, but real education about sex would really help out there.
 
2013-10-28 05:27:13 PM
My gf always thinks we will get pregnant.  We only use condoms.  Of course the more intelligent of the two of us puts it on so it's done correctly.

7 years of no off spring.  My luck will run out soon.

What percentage of people are actually sterile?
 
2013-10-28 05:27:20 PM
Birth Control is Magic.
 
2013-10-28 05:29:25 PM
Another term for it is "stupidity."
 
2013-10-28 05:30:22 PM
Oh yeah, I had to have that IUD-not-an-abortifacient conversation with my mom too a few years back. Neither my mom nor my grandmother are really stupid, they both are ok with the pill, but they were really misinformed about IUDs.
 
2013-10-28 05:30:47 PM
Subby, this headline is an absolute affront to my sensibilities.

Well done.
 
2013-10-28 05:33:27 PM

blatz514: Thelyphthoric: HOTW is like YOLO.
It's all about the owls.

[images.wikia.com image 438x400]


Yes.
data1.whicdn.com
 
2013-10-28 05:33:51 PM
This is basic social cognition.  Humans stink like last week's road kill when it comes to calculating probabilities.  Overall, we have unrealistically-positive assessments of how intelligent, ethical, attractive, and skilled we are.  We overestimate our uniqueness on variables that we value and overestimate the proportion of the population that shares our flaws.  We think the future will be brighter than it will.  Headley & Wearing (1987) found that 86% of Australians rated their job performance as above average, 1% as below average. Burger & Burns (1988) found that sexually active female undergraduates rated themselves as much less likely to become pregnant than their peers, even if they did not use contraceptives. Blackburn et al. (1990) found that 90% of college faculty members rated themselves as above average. Pryor and Reeder (1993) found Scottish teenagers think themselves much less likely than their peers to get HIV. Shepperd (2003) found college students believe themselves to be much more likely than their peers to get a high-paying job and own their own home, and far less likely than their peers to get fired or have a heart attack.
 
2013-10-28 05:34:11 PM
/csb on
My girlfriend in college used the Rhythm Method for birth control.  I was like... oh hell no.  I'm gonna double wrap this junk.  Then she said "I have a 4.0, you have a 2.5 gpa.  Do the math idiot."  So, I took her word for it.  Never got pregnant.  Married that girl.  Used that method for 10 years still didn't get pregnant.  Decided to have kids, got pregnant.  Amazing them brains shes got.
/csb off

//sexy ass brains
 
2013-10-28 05:35:39 PM

theorellior: skinink: An ex-girlfriend was going out with this guy who told her they didn't need to use condoms for sex because his use of marijuana made his sperm count extremely low so most likely she would not get pregnant.

Yeah, the guitarist in my late 90s band thought that too. His second daughter thanks him for his misconception.


/That's the joke?
 
2013-10-28 05:37:05 PM

umrdyldo: My gf always thinks we will get pregnant.  We only use condoms.  Of course the more intelligent of the two of us puts it on so it's done correctly.

7 years of no off spring.  My luck will run out soon.

What percentage of people are actually sterile?


If you have to ask, it's probably not you.

Also, condoms have effectivity rate of 97% when it's put on right, which means that for 97 out of 100 couples, it works 100% of the time for a year at preventing pregnancy.

I don't know of any long term studies to see which method works for length of time of IUD, but I think it would be interesting.

I wish they could make an IUD for men; less pregnancy hormones, ftw!
 
2013-10-28 05:38:36 PM

umrdyldo: My gf always thinks we will get pregnant.  We only use condoms.  Of course the more intelligent of the two of us puts it on so it's done correctly.

7 years of no off spring.  My luck will run out soon.

What percentage of people are actually sterile?


Too chicken for a vasectomy?
 
2013-10-28 05:38:58 PM

gecizzle: /csb on
My girlfriend in college used the Rhythm Method for birth control.  I was like... oh hell no.  I'm gonna double wrap this junk.  Then she said "I have a 4.0, you have a 2.5 gpa.  Do the math idiot."  So, I took her word for it.  Never got pregnant.  Married that girl.  Used that method for 10 years still didn't get pregnant.  Decided to have kids, got pregnant.  Amazing them brains shes got.
/csb off

//sexy ass brains


Not sure if I should reply with anecdote =/= data, or "you're obviously shooting blanks and she had the mailman come in for the assist on the eventual pregnancy"


Normally I'd go with the first, but I've had a really crappy day.
 
2013-10-28 05:39:34 PM

tlars699: Also, condoms have effectivity rate of 97% when it's put on right, which means that for 97 out of 100 couples, it works 100% of the time for a year at preventing pregnancy.


Been using condoms for 10 years. No pregnancy scares so far.

/BC makes the wife go CRAAAAZZZY
 
2013-10-28 05:39:37 PM

gecizzle: /csb on
My girlfriend in college used the Rhythm Method for birth control.  I was like... oh hell no.  I'm gonna double wrap this junk.  Then she said "I have a 4.0, you have a 2.5 gpa.  Do the math idiot."  So, I took her word for it.  Never got pregnant.  Married that girl.  Used that method for 10 years still didn't get pregnant.  Decided to have kids, got pregnant.  Amazing them brains shes got.
/csb off

//sexy ass brains


It's cool when bodies work like clockwork. Not so cool when you have multiple ovulations a month.

Which ovary is 23 days and which is 17, again? O_O meep.
 
2013-10-28 05:39:40 PM
gecizzle:

//sexy ass-brains

ftfy
 
2013-10-28 05:39:51 PM
Special is something you get at a diner.
 
2013-10-28 05:40:32 PM

ohokyeah: Oh yeah, I had to have that IUD-not-an-abortifacient conversation with my mom too a few years back. Neither my mom nor my grandmother are really stupid, they both are ok with the pill, but they were really misinformed about IUDs.


Why are you having these conversations?
 
2013-10-28 05:40:57 PM
As the ladies at Jezebel know, Ugly is close to perfect birth control.
www.demotivation.us
 
2013-10-28 05:41:27 PM

tlars699: Which ovary is 23 days and which is 17, again? O_O meep.


Damn, it's like a shooting gallery in there.
 
2013-10-28 05:42:44 PM
CSB: my wife and I started dating in college, and were always pretty careful - for the better part of a decade, we always used hormonal birth control and condoms. Once we got married, the prospect of having kids appeared on the horizon, she went off the pill for the first time since she was in high school... Anyway, the incredible onslaught of horniness that ensued after those hormones cleared her system damn near wore things out. I know what we were doing was smart, as condoms *do* fail from time to time, and we were getting our careers started and such, and it's not as though there was anything wrong with our sex life when she was on the pill, but still.. I feel like all those years are kind of a shadow of what they could have been.

Anyway, a couple years removed from that discovery, we now have a 4 month old who seems to have an innate ability to help us prevent the conception of a sibling.

tl:dr - "peak sex" occurs in the window between cessation of artificial hormonal birth control and the onset of natural hormonal birth control.
 
2013-10-28 05:43:13 PM

Clemkadidlefark: tuna fingers: Bravo!

A little too vile for HOTW consideration me supposes.

HOTW - define, please. Ignorant hick over here


www.blogcdn.com
 
2013-10-28 05:43:34 PM

Treygreen13: tlars699: Also, condoms have effectivity rate of 97% when it's put on right, which means that for 97 out of 100 couples, it works 100% of the time for a year at preventing pregnancy.

Been using condoms for 10 years. No pregnancy scares so far.

/BC makes the wife go CRAAAAZZZY


Same. BC didn't work (preggo twice while using the Pill (lo dose)), and messed up my ovulation cycle(high dose), triggered both ovaries to go.

Having more luck with the pullout method. (over a year no pregg; not for everybody)

Tempted to go with IUD though. Hormones that stay at the source? Me likey. :)
 
2013-10-28 05:45:48 PM

theorellior: tlars699: Which ovary is 23 days and which is 17, again? O_O meep.

Damn, it's like a shooting gallery in there.


Yeah; funny thing, when there is no sperm in your vagina, you don't get pregnant. It's like... some sort of magic!

/not advocating use of pull out method for everybody
//it just werks for us.
///you need a guy w/ self control... Just sayin'.
 
2013-10-28 05:46:46 PM
my little brother got a vasectomy after knocking up 5 women.  he would use "want to see my vasectomy scar?" as a pick up line.

amazing how well a pickup line like that works.

he would also go the pitty route about his ex denying him sex,  I'm not sure if he ever said, "my x, and x, and x and x and x"
 
2013-10-28 05:47:19 PM

gecizzle: /csb on
My girlfriend in college used the Rhythm Method for birth control.  I was like... oh hell no.  I'm gonna double wrap this junk.  Then she said "I have a 4.0, you have a 2.5 gpa.  Do the math idiot."  So, I took her word for it.  Never got pregnant.  Married that girl.  Used that method for 10 years still didn't get pregnant.  Decided to have kids, got pregnant.  Amazing them brains shes got.
/csb off

//sexy ass brains


If you could do the math, you'd probably have had a better GPA.
 
2013-10-28 05:47:36 PM

gecizzle: My girlfriend in college used the Rhythm Method for birth control.  I was like... oh hell no.  I'm gonna double wrap this junk.  Then she said "I have a 4.0, you have a 2.5 gpa.  Do the math idiot."  So, I took her word for it.  Never got pregnant.  Married that girl.  Used that method for 10 years still didn't get pregnant.  Decided to have kids, got pregnant.  Amazing them brains shes got.


We used it successfully for about a year. The very first time we had unprotected sex on the fertile days, she got pregnant. It does work, you just can't be wrong..
 
2013-10-28 05:48:38 PM
Yeah...the Think method doesn't work as a contraceptive.

Not the best way to learn music either.
 
2013-10-28 05:48:45 PM
Anal sex doesn't protect you from getting pregnant. Where do you think lawyers and politicians come from?
 
2013-10-28 05:49:15 PM
Subby, this is a headline I can get behind!!1! Bravo.
 
2013-10-28 05:49:57 PM

costermonger: gecizzle: My girlfriend in college used the Rhythm Method for birth control.  I was like... oh hell no.  I'm gonna double wrap this junk.  Then she said "I have a 4.0, you have a 2.5 gpa.  Do the math idiot."  So, I took her word for it.  Never got pregnant.  Married that girl.  Used that method for 10 years still didn't get pregnant.  Decided to have kids, got pregnant.  Amazing them brains shes got.

We used it successfully for about a year. The very first time we had unprotected sex on the fertile days, she got pregnant. It does work, you just can't be wrong..


Or you could use a condom and have sex whenever the mood strikes you.
 
2013-10-28 05:52:42 PM

umrdyldo: My gf always thinks we will get pregnant.  We only use condoms.  Of course the more intelligent of the two of us puts it on so it's done correctly.

7 years of no off spring.  My luck will run out soon.

What percentage of people are actually sterile?


Your in a 7 year relationship and have had to use condoms the whole time? You poor bastard. No Birth Control pills?

I would rather get a vasectomy and then later get it reversed.
 
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