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2013-10-28 01:22:16 PM
10?!?

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2013-10-28 01:48:59 PM

The Stealth Hippopotamus: 10?!?

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I see two.  Shouldn't that sign be plural?
 
2013-10-28 02:05:50 PM
Florida St played an unranked team. Oregon beat up a ranked team.

CRY MOAR
 
2013-10-28 02:32:03 PM

mediablitz: Florida St played an unranked team. Oregon beat up a ranked team.

CRY MOAR


FSU shattered the pelvis of a highly-ranked team last week, though.  It isn't like they're untested.
 
2013-10-28 02:42:02 PM

factoryconnection: mediablitz: Florida St played an unranked team. Oregon beat up a ranked team.

CRY MOAR

FSU shattered the pelvis of a highly-ranked team last week, though.  It isn't like they're untested.


They Play #7 nest week, if they beat the pants off Miami they will be #2 again.
 
2013-10-28 02:45:26 PM

Tom_Slick: factoryconnection: mediablitz: Florida St played an unranked team. Oregon beat up a ranked team.

CRY MOAR

FSU shattered the pelvis of a highly-ranked team last week, though.  It isn't like they're untested.

They Play #7 nest week, if they beat the pants off Miami they will be #2 again.


Oregon has Stanford in 10 days. If they beat Stanford, they will (probably) jump to #2.

I think Miami at #7 is highly suspicious. Last week's game confirms my suspicions...
 
2013-10-28 03:20:26 PM
Oh come on...that Bowden whiny hissy fit was twenty years ago. Get over it, NCAA.
 
2013-10-28 03:25:39 PM
Beat #12 BCS team by 28
Beat extremely-unranked team by 32

Which would you think would move up?
 
2013-10-28 03:26:45 PM

mediablitz: Tom_Slick: factoryconnection: mediablitz: Florida St played an unranked team. Oregon beat up a ranked team.

CRY MOAR

FSU shattered the pelvis of a highly-ranked team last week, though.  It isn't like they're untested.

They Play #7 nest week, if they beat the pants off Miami they will be #2 again.

Oregon has Stanford in 10 days. If they beat Stanford, they will (probably) jump to #2.

I think Miami at #7 is highly suspicious. Last week's game confirms my suspicions...


That Stanford game is going to be interesting, Thursday Night is where good teams go to die.
 
2013-10-28 03:28:25 PM

Tom_Slick: mediablitz: Tom_Slick: factoryconnection: mediablitz: Florida St played an unranked team. Oregon beat up a ranked team.

CRY MOAR

FSU shattered the pelvis of a highly-ranked team last week, though.  It isn't like they're untested.

They Play #7 nest week, if they beat the pants off Miami they will be #2 again.

Oregon has Stanford in 10 days. If they beat Stanford, they will (probably) jump to #2.

I think Miami at #7 is highly suspicious. Last week's game confirms my suspicions...

That Stanford game is going to be interesting, Thursday Night is where good teams go to die.


Especially on the road.
 
2013-10-28 03:31:13 PM

Tom_Slick: mediablitz: Tom_Slick: factoryconnection: mediablitz: Florida St played an unranked team. Oregon beat up a ranked team.

CRY MOAR

FSU shattered the pelvis of a highly-ranked team last week, though.  It isn't like they're untested.

They Play #7 nest week, if they beat the pants off Miami they will be #2 again.

Oregon has Stanford in 10 days. If they beat Stanford, they will (probably) jump to #2.

I think Miami at #7 is highly suspicious. Last week's game confirms my suspicions...

That Stanford game is going to be interesting, Thursday Night is where good teams go to die.


Oregon seems to have one boner game a year in them. Looked like it was going to be UCLA at halftime. Now Stanford is up...
 
2013-10-28 03:31:49 PM
whether Oregon is 2 or 3 is kind of moot point since they'll lose to Stanford like they always do anyway. I really don't see anyone beating Alabama this year. Last week they beat down my Vols but I'll give it to them they're a veteran team full of great players. Next year Alabama will be suspect but this year they're solid.

/Go Vols
//next year
 
2013-10-28 03:34:42 PM
Aside from beating A&M, Alabama has only faced the typical "tomato can" teams (no, Ole Miss doesn't count, because they hadn't beaten anyone of any repute to earn that #21 at the time either).

If #2 Oregon defeats #5 Stanford and/or #3 FSU beats that loathsome #7 Miami, even if #1 Alabama beats #13 LSU, shouldn't one of those two logically take over the #1 spot because they beat a better team than what Alabama beat? It makes sense, right?

Of course, I'm just kidding. Alabama is SEC, which means that God Himself couldn't knock them out of the top spot. Carry on.
 
2013-10-28 03:34:52 PM

mediablitz: Tom_Slick: factoryconnection: mediablitz: Florida St played an unranked team. Oregon beat up a ranked team.

CRY MOAR

FSU shattered the pelvis of a highly-ranked team last week, though.  It isn't like they're untested.

They Play #7 nest week, if they beat the pants off Miami they will be #2 again.

Oregon has Stanford in 10 days. If they beat Stanford, they will (probably) jump to #2.

I think Miami at #7 is highly suspicious. Last week's game confirms my suspicions...


No less suspicious than UCLA climbing up by beating only one team that currently has a winning record.
 
2013-10-28 03:40:36 PM
I'm just confused at how Oklahoma can even be in the top-20.

Every year they get ranked super high and end up collapsing inward in black hole of suck. Learn your frigin lesson BCS computer.
 
2013-10-28 03:44:33 PM

factoryconnection: mediablitz: Florida St played an unranked team. Oregon beat up a ranked team.

CRY MOAR

FSU shattered the pelvis of a highly-ranked team last week, though.  It isn't like they're untested.


Highly over-ranked team though.

Sorry its true, same as Georgia, LSU, Florida were all over ranked, all are maybe top 15 fringe top 10 but injuries drop them down.
 
2013-10-28 03:48:23 PM

ModernPrimitive01: whether Oregon is 2 or 3 is kind of moot point since they'll lose to Stanford like they always do anyway. I really don't see anyone beating Alabama this year. Last week they beat down my Vols but I'll give it to them they're a veteran team full of great players. Next year Alabama will be suspect but this year they're solid.

/Go Vols
//next year


Stanford fan here, I'd hardly say Oregon always loses to us, though I appreciate the vote of confidence.  But if we keep losing TOP by 15 minutes we have no chance.
 
2013-10-28 03:48:44 PM

flak attack: mediablitz: Tom_Slick: factoryconnection: mediablitz: Florida St played an unranked team. Oregon beat up a ranked team.

CRY MOAR

FSU shattered the pelvis of a highly-ranked team last week, though.  It isn't like they're untested.

They Play #7 nest week, if they beat the pants off Miami they will be #2 again.

Oregon has Stanford in 10 days. If they beat Stanford, they will (probably) jump to #2.

I think Miami at #7 is highly suspicious. Last week's game confirms my suspicions...

No less suspicious than UCLA climbing up by beating only one team that currently has a winning record.


Utah and Nebraska both have winning records.
 
2013-10-28 03:49:05 PM
we also play really fast & according to the sec, that should be against the rules

/go ducks
 
2013-10-28 03:51:16 PM
How the hell does Michigan move up a spot on a bye week going into a game this week where the other team (MSU) is favored by 4 and 1/2?
 
2013-10-28 04:00:18 PM

Shame Us: Beat #12 BCS team by 28
Beat extremely-unranked team by 32

Which would you think would move up?


The one with Nike money.
 
2013-10-28 04:00:29 PM
Mizzou: We'll always have the week of bliss as #5. Until we forgot to play the last quarter of our game against South Carolina.
 
2013-10-28 04:05:30 PM
Was waiting for this thread to see the FSU fans whine. Relax, 'Noles. It's not like the regular season is over right now. If you just do what you're supposed to and beat Miami this Saturday, then things will settle themselves out and you'll move back up to #2. If you choke and lose, then you didn't deserve that ranking anyways.

I know you're a lot better this year than you were for most of this past decade, but just because you're good again doesn't mean that everybody else in college football is going to automatically start grovelling at your feet like it's the 90's.

/Go 'Canes!
//misses the 90's college football years
 
2013-10-28 04:09:58 PM
If Jameis Winston didn't play in an offense that routinely hikes the ball with only 3 or 4 seconds left on the playclock, the Heisman race wouldn't even be close.  FSU plays a slow, pro-style offense.
 
2013-10-28 04:12:30 PM

the_vegetarian_cannibal: Was waiting for this thread to see the FSU fans whine. Relax, 'Noles. It's not like the regular season is over right now. If you just do what you're supposed to and beat Miami this Saturday, then things will settle themselves out and you'll move back up to #2. If you choke and lose, then you didn't deserve that ranking anyways.

I know you're a lot better this year than you were for most of this past decade, but just because you're good again doesn't mean that everybody else in college football is going to automatically start grovelling at your feet like it's the 90's.

/Go 'Canes!
//misses the 90's college football years


Two and three are going to swap places until one of them drops a game, if I were to put on my conspiracy hat, I would guess FSU dropped to quell a an argument that they should be #1 if there were to blow out Miami and Alabama were to have a close game against LSU.
 
2013-10-28 04:13:57 PM

ModernPrimitive01: whether Oregon is 2 or 3 is kind of moot point since they'll lose to Stanford like they always do anyway. I really don't see anyone beating Alabama this year. Last week they beat down my Vols but I'll give it to them they're a veteran team full of great players. Next year Alabama will be suspect but this year they're solid.

/Go Vols
//next year


Florida State / Alabama is the only BCS championship matchup I see as having a chance of being a close game. Really, its the only game I have any interest in seeing.

Alabama will steamroll anyone else.

Maybe we'll get another great BCS championship matchup with a team that totally "deserves to be there" like Notre Dame this year, since last year was so exciting an all...
 
2013-10-28 04:20:35 PM

Elegy: ModernPrimitive01: whether Oregon is 2 or 3 is kind of moot point since they'll lose to Stanford like they always do anyway. I really don't see anyone beating Alabama this year. Last week they beat down my Vols but I'll give it to them they're a veteran team full of great players. Next year Alabama will be suspect but this year they're solid.

/Go Vols
//next year

Florida State / Alabama is the only BCS championship matchup I see as having a chance of being a close game. Really, its the only game I have any interest in seeing.

Alabama will steamroll anyone else.

Maybe we'll get another great BCS championship matchup with a team that totally "deserves to be there" like Notre Dame this year, since last year was so exciting an all...


Are you kidding? That was the feel-good game of the decade.

/fark the Domers
 
2013-10-28 04:21:51 PM

TheKingOfMexico: Aside from beating A&M, Alabama has only faced the typical "tomato can" teams (no, Ole Miss doesn't count, because they hadn't beaten anyone of any repute to earn that #21 at the time either).

If #2 Oregon defeats #5 Stanford and/or #3 FSU beats that loathsome #7 Miami, even if #1 Alabama beats #13 LSU, shouldn't one of those two logically take over the #1 spot because they beat a better team than what Alabama beat? It makes sense, right?

Of course, I'm just kidding. Alabama is SEC, which means that God Himself couldn't knock them out of the top spot. Carry on.


Sagarin currently has their schedules rated:

Alabama - 41
Oregon - 54
Florida State - 68
Ohio State - 69
Baylor - 96

If they all get to the end of the season undefeated, Alabama will have beaten TAMU, LSU, Auburn (apparently good again), plus whichever team comes out of the SEC East.  I'd say that's more than comparable to Florida, Clemson, and Miami twice or Stanford, UCLA, and whoever comes out of the PAC-12 South.
 
2013-10-28 04:25:26 PM
Everybody talking about how much each team won by, and then complaining about the BCS computer is hitting a red herring.

Several years ago, in a move to avert teams from running up the scores in garbage time, the BCS disallowed any computer polls from using margin of victory in their calculations (or removed them from their formula).  Then a few years later, the pollsters got mad that the computers weren't ranking teams the way that they wanted (partially because of the margin of victory changes), and reduced the influence of the computers significantly (it used to be 6/8ths of the formula, now it's 1/3).

It's a hokey system that deserves to have its final year fraught with problems caused by more than 2 undefeated teams from major conferences at the end of the season.
 
2013-10-28 04:27:02 PM
The rankings this year are interesting (to date)

#1 Alabama, they haven't lost so you can't knock them down, but you can argue their SOS and they struggled against Colorado State.
#2 Oregon, beat overrated Washington, and a decent UCLA and creamed a bunch of nobodies
#3 FSU, beat a bunch of nobodies by a lot, creamed a severely overrated Clemson who beat an overrated Georgia
#4 OSU, beat an overrated Northwestern, a decent Wisconsin and didn't blow out other unrated teams
#5 Stanford, beat overrated Washington and ASU, a decent UCLA and Oregon State, close games against unranked
#6 Baylor, going to hit a wall of hurt and will be lucky to not drop 2-4 of their next 5
#7 Miami, I don't think I need to even comment
 
2013-10-28 04:29:30 PM
Dear Lord, I cannot wait until the BCS is dead. 4 is too few for a proper playoff, but it at least is a plausible system whereas the BCS never had a chance in hell of actually working
 
2013-10-28 04:31:31 PM

Lunchlady: I'm just confused at how Oklahoma can even be in the top-20.

Every year they get ranked super high and end up collapsing inward in black hole of suck. Learn your frigin lesson BCS computer.


See also:  Virginia Tech.

/ Duke doesn't suck!  ha!
 
2013-10-28 04:32:04 PM

OhioUGrad: #4 OSU, beat an overrated Northwestern, a decent Wisconsin and didn't blow out other unrated teams


Miss Saturday's game?
 
2013-10-28 04:33:40 PM

OhioUGrad: #4 OSU, beat an overrated Northwestern, a decent Wisconsin and didn't blow out other unrated teams


Oh, they blew out one un-ranked team for damn sure... mine.
 
2013-10-28 04:37:31 PM
Woo NIU!
 
2013-10-28 04:38:39 PM

the_vegetarian_cannibal: Elegy: ModernPrimitive01: whether Oregon is 2 or 3 is kind of moot point since they'll lose to Stanford like they always do anyway. I really don't see anyone beating Alabama this year. Last week they beat down my Vols but I'll give it to them they're a veteran team full of great players. Next year Alabama will be suspect but this year they're solid.

/Go Vols
//next year

Florida State / Alabama is the only BCS championship matchup I see as having a chance of being a close game. Really, its the only game I have any interest in seeing.

Alabama will steamroll anyone else.

Maybe we'll get another great BCS championship matchup with a team that totally "deserves to be there" like Notre Dame this year, since last year was so exciting an all...

Are you kidding? That was the feel-good game of the decade.

/fark the Domers


While it was nice to see Notre Dame lose, those of us wanting to see an actual championship game got exactly what we were expecting: the best team in the SEC blowing out what would otherwise be a nice, championship 5A high school football team.
 
2013-10-28 04:44:42 PM

factoryconnection: OhioUGrad: #4 OSU, beat an overrated Northwestern, a decent Wisconsin and didn't blow out other unrated teams

Oh, they blew out one un-ranked team for damn sure... mine.


They beat up on FAMU pretty good, also
 
2013-10-28 04:44:48 PM
Ohio State is sucking wind. I can't wait for them to get to a bowl and choke. As usual.
 
2013-10-28 04:47:36 PM

Lost Thought 00: Dear Lord, I cannot wait until the BCS is dead. 4 is too few for a proper playoff, but it at least is a plausible system whereas the BCS never had a chance in hell of actually working


Well part of the BCS problem is that they kept changing the formulas.  In theory, the computers calculating things removes the fangirlism of college football.  But everyone would just whine because the "right" teams (for whatever value of "right" you want to assign) didn't get picked, So they would constantly change the formulas trying to  get the "right" teams to come out on top.  You had a system that was supposed to be designed to remove panty-wetting fangirlism from the equation being tweaked for the express purpose of inserting panty-wetting fangirlism back into the whole mess.  If they had just simply said "This system is going to spit out results not consistent with the wishes of every single beer-chugging bubba in the continental United States; deal" people may have eventually settled down and accepted it.  But, by continually jumping to every time some dillweed opened his pie hole, they showed that gaming the system just required enough thrashing around showing your ass.  And considering college football fandom, thrashing around howling in outrage over any and everything is not something in short supply.
 
2013-10-28 04:47:40 PM

mediablitz: Oregon has Stanford in 10 days. If they beat Stanford, they will (probably) jump to #2.

I think Miami at #7 is highly suspicious. Last week's game confirms my suspicions...


Undefeated #7 Miami is highly suspicious.  That I completely agree with.  I think they're a fraud.

But a #5 Stanford that lost to a shiatty 4-4 Utah is not highly suspicious?
 
2013-10-28 04:48:18 PM

FLMountainMan: If Jameis Winston didn't play in an offense that routinely hikes the ball with only 3 or 4 seconds left on the playclock, the Heisman race wouldn't even be close.  FSU plays a slow, pro-style offense.


...and?
 
2013-10-28 04:49:57 PM

phalamir: Lost Thought 00: Dear Lord, I cannot wait until the BCS is dead. 4 is too few for a proper playoff, but it at least is a plausible system whereas the BCS never had a chance in hell of actually working

Well part of the BCS problem is that they kept changing the formulas.  In theory, the computers calculating things removes the fangirlism of college football.  But everyone would just whine because the "right" teams (for whatever value of "right" you want to assign) didn't get picked, So they would constantly change the formulas trying to  get the "right" teams to come out on top.  You had a system that was supposed to be designed to remove panty-wetting fangirlism from the equation being tweaked for the express purpose of inserting panty-wetting fangirlism back into the whole mess.  If they had just simply said "This system is going to spit out results not consistent with the wishes of every single beer-chugging bubba in the continental United States; deal" people may have eventually settled down and accepted it.  But, by continually jumping to every time some dillweed opened his pie hole, they showed that gaming the system just required enough thrashing around showing your ass.  And considering college football fandom, thrashing around howling in outrage over any and everything is not something in short supply.


Well, that and they never made the "computer" algorithms public. Which is completely idiotic. Anyone and everyone should have been able to look at the season's results and determine exactly what the "computer" results would be, but that was impossible.
 
2013-10-28 04:50:00 PM

RickyWilliams'sBong: mediablitz: Oregon has Stanford in 10 days. If they beat Stanford, they will (probably) jump to #2.

I think Miami at #7 is highly suspicious. Last week's game confirms my suspicions...

Undefeated #7 Miami is highly suspicious.  That I completely agree with.  I think they're a fraud.

But a #5 Stanford that lost to a shiatty 4-4 Utah is not highly suspicious?


Oh yeah. I think Stanford is suspect as well. I was pointing out the "#7 Miami" comment held about as much water as "#5 Stanford".
 
2013-10-28 04:50:01 PM

OhioUGrad: #1 Alabama, they haven't lost so you can't knock them down, but you can argue their SOS and they struggled against Colorado State.


That was a really weird game that looks ugly because of how slowly it was played.  Alabama ran only 48 plays in that game.  On a per play basis, 31 points and 338 yards is actually pretty good.  If Alabama had put up its average of 67 plays, that efficiency would have netted them 472 yards and 43 points.

Besides, Colorado State didn't cross midfield until several minutes into the third quarter, did so only twice until the final minute and never made it into the red zone.  The Alabama offense may not have risen to expectations, but they didn't really "struggle".
 
2013-10-28 04:51:05 PM

OregonVet: Ohio State is sucking wind. I can't wait for them to get to a bowl and choke. As usual.


Right. The team tied for most BCS bowl wins in history is going to "choke as usual." Nevermind that they won the first four they were in and the last two.
 
2013-10-28 04:52:01 PM

NuttierThanEver: How the hell does Michigan move up a spot on a bye week going into a game this week where the other team (MSU) is favored by 4 and 1/2?


Because teams in front of them lost, and they're playing @ that other team (there's at least 3 of the points of the spread) which is ranked right behind them in the polls. Also, the computers see Michigan beat Notre Dame while that's MSU's loss, and MSU's best win is... Indiana?  @Iowa?  MSU somehow managed to miss all three of Ohio State, Wisconsin and Penn State on this year's schedule.
 
2013-10-28 04:53:06 PM

OhioUGrad: #4 OSU, beat an overrated Northwestern, a decent Wisconsin and didn't blow out other unrated teams


63-14 (when it was 42-7 at the half) is apparently not a blowout.
 
2013-10-28 04:53:11 PM

RickyWilliams'sBong: mediablitz: Oregon has Stanford in 10 days. If they beat Stanford, they will (probably) jump to #2.

I think Miami at #7 is highly suspicious. Last week's game confirms my suspicions...

Undefeated #7 Miami is highly suspicious.  That I completely agree with.  I think they're a fraud.

But a #5 Stanford that lost to a shiatty 4-4 Utah is not highly suspicious?


Agreed.

It seems this year that top to bottom the PAC-12 probably is the 2nd "best" division in college football in that the average quality of the teams is best averaged out. You could make the argument that it's a better division than the SEC since they are filled with a few amazing teams and then a lot of crap hangers-on. That's probably where Stanford at 5 is coming from.

The ACC on the other hand plays garbage teams from top to bottom and is clearly overrated.

Realistically, do you really think Stanford or Oregon (or even UCLA) wouldn't trounce Miami if given the chance?
 
2013-10-28 04:53:21 PM

steamingpile: factoryconnection: mediablitz: Florida St played an unranked team. Oregon beat up a ranked team.

CRY MOAR

FSU shattered the pelvis of a highly-ranked team last week, though.  It isn't like they're untested.

Highly over-ranked team though.

Sorry its true, same as Georgia, LSU, Florida were all over ranked, all are maybe top 15 fringe top 10 but injuries drop them down.


I love this from the SEC crowd.  Clemson's great when they beat UGA and LSU, but they're overrated when FSU turns them into oatmeal.

"But PAAAWWWWWWWWLLLLLL!"
 
2013-10-28 04:53:58 PM

OregonVet: Ohio State is sucking wind.


Probably from running it all over the field on Penn State on Saturday.
 
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