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(Fox News)   Elderly homeowner shoots golfer whose errant drive broke a window at his house, finds out the hard way that Nevada doesn't have a "stand your green" law   (foxnews.com) divider line 110
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2013-10-28 10:27:01 AM
Golfer probably should have done the cannonball.
 
2013-10-28 10:28:01 AM
Arizona, Nevada. No real difference, amiright submitter?
 
2013-10-28 10:34:12 AM
"In return for Fleming's guilty plea, prosecutors agreed to drop an assault with a deadly weapon charge and to go along with the Division of Parole and Probation's recommended sentence for him. "

WTF?  The dude walked out to the golfers and shot him, it's not like the golfer was on his property looking for the ball.  I know he was barely injured but god damn if someone shoots a shotgun at me I'm going for full charges, it's not like the guy could get off on any of them.
 
2013-10-28 10:52:05 AM
53 is "elderly" now? Get the fark off my lawn!
 
2013-10-28 10:56:57 AM
If you don't want golf balls to hit your house, DON'T BUY A HOUSE ON A GOLF COURSE.
 
2013-10-28 11:00:16 AM
"Live on a golf course and you got to expect your house to get hit every once in a while. This (shooting) is one of those stories that you just can't make it up."

Yes, because armed idiots shooting people for no good reason is practically unheard of.
 
2013-10-28 11:02:53 AM
I once shot a golfer in Reno, just to watch him die.

And yea, Nevada != Arizona. Subby should be thrown off the Hoover Dam for that mistake.
 
2013-10-28 11:03:43 AM

RexTalionis: If you don't want golf balls to hit your house, DON'T BUY A HOUSE ON A GOLF COURSE.


At the very least, invest in Lexan windows so they won't shatter things.

/Also park your car in the garage
 
2013-10-28 11:04:02 AM
Question for farkers:  Would you take a couple of pellets of bird shot in exchange to have the most awesome story to tell at bars and parties?
 
2013-10-28 11:04:15 AM

TNel: "In return for Fleming's guilty plea, prosecutors agreed to drop an assault with a deadly weapon charge and to go along with the Division of Parole and Probation's recommended sentence for him. "

WTF?  The dude walked out to the golfers and shot him, it's not like the golfer was on his property looking for the ball.  I know he was barely injured but god damn if someone shoots a shotgun at me I'm going for full charges, it's not like the guy could get off on any of them.


Well he DID say he was sorry and I'm SURE this guy doesn;t have a short fuse or anything   (honestly I'd at least require he get checked for early onset Alzhieme's)
 
2013-10-28 11:05:03 AM

gwowen: "Live on a golf course and you got to expect your house to get hit every once in a while. This (shooting) is one of those stories that you just can't make it up."

Yes, because armed idiots shooting people for no good reason is practically unheard of.


True but this is spectacularly unreasonable, given the context, setting, and absolute lack of threat posed by shank-a-potomous.  Even as a jaded consumer of US "random and awful" shooting news, this is profoundly stupid.
 
2013-10-28 11:06:19 AM

CivicMindedFive: Question for farkers:  Would you take a couple of pellets of bird shot in exchange to have the most awesome story to tell at bars and parties?


Yes. I believe I would.
 
2013-10-28 11:07:27 AM

Nadie_AZ: Arizona, Nevada. No real difference, amiright submitter?


And since when is 53 "elderly?"

But hey, way to get that green light, Subpar.
 
2013-10-28 11:08:00 AM

skinink: I once shot a golfer in Reno, just to watch him die.

And yea, Nevada != Arizona. Subby should be thrown off the Hoover Dam for that mistake.


That has always bugged me about that song, if he shot a man in Reno, why is he in Folsom Prison?
 
2013-10-28 11:09:04 AM
You know, it is a shame that subby ruined a perfectly good play on words with his geographical f*ckup and dig on 50-somethings.
 
2013-10-28 11:09:08 AM
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2013-10-28 11:09:13 AM
The golfer was better armed than Trayvon Martin.  He had a metal club.  The golfer wasn't just walking along the street.  He was coming onto the guy's property uninvited. Castle doctrine, right?
 
2013-10-28 11:10:28 AM
We were just at our company golf tournament on Thursday and were thinking about owning a house on the course.  There are a couple of places on the course we were at that you'd have to have shatterproof windows.  None of us imagined getting shot at though.
 
2013-10-28 11:11:29 AM

TNel: "In return for Fleming's guilty plea, prosecutors agreed to drop an assault with a deadly weapon charge and to go along with the Division of Parole and Probation's recommended sentence for him. "

WTF?  The dude walked out to the golfers and shot him, it's not like the golfer was on his property looking for the ball.  I know he was barely injured but god damn if someone shoots a shotgun at me I'm going for full charges, it's not like the guy could get off on any of them.


If dude lived in a less prominent part of town and was of a lower income level he would be looking at 20 years in prison.  There is a two tiered legal system depending on income and family relations.
 
2013-10-28 11:12:28 AM
No more guns for this guy, I hope.
 
2013-10-28 11:13:36 AM

gwowen: "Live on a golf course and you got to expect your house to get hit every once in a while. This (shooting) is one of those stories that you just can't make it up."

Yes, because armed idiots shooting people for no good reason is practically unheard of.


Actually, armed idiots shooting people for no good reason is practically unheard of.  Usually there are reasons.  In the US, that tends to revolve around drugs or gang, with a helping of infidelity and arguments gone awry.  Outside of the US, the reasons vary greatly with the region.

As noted above, this is not an appropriate reaction.  Dude should be in jail and not getting off lightly.
 
2013-10-28 11:14:38 AM

TNel: "In return for Fleming's guilty plea, prosecutors agreed to drop an assault with a deadly weapon charge and to go along with the Division of Parole and Probation's recommended sentence for him. "

WTF?  The dude walked out to the golfers and shot him, it's not like the golfer was on his property looking for the ball.  I know he was barely injured but god damn if someone shoots a shotgun at me I'm going for full charges, it's not like the guy could get off on any of them.


You forgot, he's white and wealthy. Probation it is.
 
2013-10-28 11:14:49 AM

Persnickety: The golfer was better armed than Trayvon Martin.  He had a metal club.  The golfer wasn't just walking along the street.  He was coming onto the guy's property uninvited. Castle doctrine, right?


Well something had to get this thread sparked up...
 
2013-10-28 11:15:32 AM

Persnickety: The golfer was better armed than Trayvon Martin.  He had a metal club.  The golfer wasn't just walking along the street.  He was coming onto the guy's property uninvited. Castle doctrine, right?


I guess you never read TFA? He didn't go looking for it.
 
2013-10-28 11:15:32 AM
Someone could use some anger management.
 
2013-10-28 11:17:33 AM
obviously he was not a golfer
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2013-10-28 11:18:15 AM

heavymetal: If dude lived in a less prominent part of town and was of a lower income level he would be looking at 20 years in prison. There is a two tiered legal system depending on income and family relations.


He is facing up to 10 years, although yes being able to afford a competent lawyer makes all kinds of difference.

TNel: I guess you never read TFA? He didn't go looking for it.


I doubt that matters to the person that made that comment!
 
2013-10-28 11:21:52 AM
Weird, sounds like there might be a medical problem with the guy. Houses on golf courses are usually required to carry special insurance for this reason. It is like $600 a year.
 
2013-10-28 11:23:14 AM

CivicMindedFive: Question for farkers:  Would you take a couple of pellets of bird shot in exchange to have the most awesome story to tell at bars and parties?


Indubitably.
 
2013-10-28 11:23:37 AM
Just a law abiding gun owner defending his property.

He even made a special note that he doesn't have a criminal record before this. Love how he played the law abiding card without even being prompted.

Take his guns away forever.
 
2013-10-28 11:24:46 AM
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2013-10-28 11:26:24 AM
www.soundonsight.org
"You should have children playing here, you should have families having picnics, you should have a godd@mn petting zoo."
 
2013-10-28 11:27:45 AM

justtray: Take his guns away forever.


A Nevada man accused of shooting a golfer who broke a window at his home with an errant ball has pleaded guilty to a felony charge.

Already done.
 
2013-10-28 11:28:42 AM
Did he yell fore after pulling the trigger?
 
2013-10-28 11:30:13 AM
Just Remember - Guns Don't Kill People   Gun Owners Do
 
2013-10-28 11:31:23 AM

Persnickety: The golfer was better armed than Trayvon Martin.  He had a metal club.  The golfer wasn't just walking along the street.  He was coming onto the guy's property uninvited. Castle doctrine, right?


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2013-10-28 11:31:59 AM

R.A.Danny: justtray: Take his guns away forever.

A Nevada man accused of shooting a golfer who broke a window at his home with an errant ball has pleaded guilty to a felony charge.

Already done.


Which may have been the point of the plea come to think of it.  Harry Homeowner, with no priors and a good job, and the vic was barely hurt?  Might make more sense to get him to cop to felony, so you know he's disarmed and can;t do it again, and send him on his merry way rather than spending 100K a year to lock him up, ruin his life and make him unemployable.
 
2013-10-28 11:33:29 AM

R.A.Danny: justtray: Take his guns away forever.

A Nevada man accused of shooting a golfer who broke a window at his home with an errant ball has pleaded guilty to a felony charge.

Already done.


Yeah, but along with probation will probably come the granting of the motion to restore rights after his probation is up.

/Yes, you can indeed get your right to vote and own guns restored after felony. My boss actually did that. Like many legal perks though, its uncommon and usually reserved only for rich white guys that go to the same country clubs as the judge.
 
2013-10-28 11:34:05 AM

Magorn: so you know he's disarmed and can;t do it again


Or, the next time, he's going to come out with a sword.
 
2013-10-28 11:35:49 AM

PsyLord: "You should have children playing here, you should have families having picnics, you should have a godd@mn petting zoo."


+1. Great flick
 
2013-10-28 11:37:31 AM
The felony point is a good one; he needs to be put away for some time because that's what we should do with people exhibiting sociopathy but really the comfort would be in him not having any access to guns.
 
2013-10-28 11:38:05 AM
musta been a hell of a drive there, subs.
 
2013-10-28 11:44:11 AM

R.A.Danny: justtray: Take his guns away forever.

A Nevada man accused of shooting a golfer who broke a window at his home with an errant ball has pleaded guilty to a felony charge.

Already done.


Only for a little while.
Arizona's rewrite of the criminal code in 1977 provided that, after a first conviction, civil rights were restored automatically at the end of probation. In 1988 the law was amended to provide that this did not apply to firearms rights -- you have to file a motion to get them restored now, but if he waits the proper period after probation (2 years, iirc) its pretty much a done deal he will be packin' again.
 
2013-10-28 11:44:29 AM
I live on a golf course so I am getting a kick out of these replies!

Our yard collects a fair number of balls but our location relative to the tee box is such that if you are hitting it into my yard it is such a bad shot it doesn't have much on it (unless you are a lefty).

We get hit occasionally, but nothing broken yet. I expect it will happen and I wont get angry.

What does piss me off is the number of times I am in the back yard and balls come our way, usually into my neighbors yard, with absolutely no warning. If your shot is trailing tword houses yell "Fore!", assholes.
 
2013-10-28 11:44:30 AM
Reno, Arizona? Subby fails at Geology.
 
2013-10-28 11:45:02 AM

R.A.Danny: justtray: Take his guns away forever.

A Nevada man accused of shooting a golfer who broke a window at his home with an errant ball has pleaded guilty to a felony charge.

Already done.


Not good enough. We need a law that specifically says you will lose your gun rights if you shoot at somebody for hitting your house with a golf ball. If you disagree, then you don't care about children golfers.
 
2013-10-28 11:45:05 AM
+1, submitter. And mod. Kudos all around.
 
2013-10-28 11:45:39 AM
I was playing a new course last Friday, and I was amazed at just how close to the fairways some of the houses are being built.

Hit a hook on 16- nothing major, barely more than a draw. Problem was, I'd been fading it all day, so I was aimed down the left, and I would have had to go on someone's back patio to get my ball back. If they'd been grilling at the time, I might have killed a guy.

I understand the appeal of wanting to live on a course, but somebody should think about just how close is too close.
 
2013-10-28 11:46:39 AM
Somebody forgot to take their Thorazine today.
 
2013-10-28 11:49:13 AM

stuffy: Reno, Arizona? Subby fails at GeologyGeography.


FTFY
 
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