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(Fox News)   The design of the new World Trade Center is a "disaster" that "lacks self confidence" and "proclaims the terrorists have won"- according to famed graffiti artist Banksy. Up next: what Rhianna thinks of cardiac catheteritization vs drug therapy   (foxnews.com) divider line 285
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2013-10-28 10:08:13 AM  
I like the new tower.
 
2013-10-28 10:08:52 AM  
4.bp.blogspot.com
 
2013-10-28 10:13:27 AM  
If it were up to me, I'd have rebuilt them as the new tallest buildings in the world.  Sure some Arab oil tycoon would 1-up us within a few years as they often do, but at least it would be something of a statement.
 
2013-10-28 10:14:22 AM  
Banksy can go fark himself.
 
2013-10-28 10:23:07 AM  
People actually listen to a common no talent vandal?
 
2013-10-28 10:23:31 AM  
Wake me up when I should give a shiat about what overrated "street artist" Banksy has to say about anything.
 
2013-10-28 10:25:37 AM  

Tom_Slick: People actually listen to a common no talent vandal?


In this case, he's right.  The *PROPER* response would have been to rebuild the towers.  Make them visually similar, but with design and structural improvements from the lessons learned from the attack.

That way, the terrorists wouldn't have been successful in changing the NYC skyline.  Now, there is visual evidence of the attack.
 
2013-10-28 10:28:20 AM  

Tom_Slick: People actually listen to a common no talent vandal?


Not the Times apparently.
 
2013-10-28 10:29:22 AM  

dittybopper: Tom_Slick: People actually listen to a common no talent vandal?

In this case, he's right.  The *PROPER* response would have been to rebuild the towers.  Make them visually similar, but with design and structural improvements from the lessons learned from the attack.

That way, the terrorists wouldn't have been successful in changing the NYC skyline.  Now, there is visual evidence of the attack.


What?  People give a crap what the skyline looks like?  You really think that's what the terrorist wanted?  How about a large building that holds a lot of people?
 
2013-10-28 10:30:05 AM  

dittybopper: Tom_Slick: People actually listen to a common no talent vandal?

In this case, he's right.  The *PROPER* response would have been to rebuild the towers.  Make them visually similar, but with design and structural improvements from the lessons learned from the attack.

That way, the terrorists wouldn't have been successful in changing the NYC skyline.  Now, there is visual evidence of the attack.


The NYC skyline changes all the time.
 
2013-10-28 10:32:02 AM  
There are a lot of things that demonstrate that the terrorists won. The design of a building is not one of them.
 
2013-10-28 10:35:46 AM  
"Famed graffiti artist" shouldn't even be a sentence

/actually, it should carry about a 5 year sentence
 
2013-10-28 10:36:22 AM  

James!: dittybopper: Tom_Slick: People actually listen to a common no talent vandal?

In this case, he's right.  The *PROPER* response would have been to rebuild the towers.  Make them visually similar, but with design and structural improvements from the lessons learned from the attack.

That way, the terrorists wouldn't have been successful in changing the NYC skyline.  Now, there is visual evidence of the attack.

The NYC skyline changes all the time.


But not as a result of a hostile attack.

The best "Eff You!" we could have sent to Al Qaeda is to rebuild the towers.
 
2013-10-28 10:42:09 AM  

dittybopper: James!: dittybopper: Tom_Slick: People actually listen to a common no talent vandal?

In this case, he's right.  The *PROPER* response would have been to rebuild the towers.  Make them visually similar, but with design and structural improvements from the lessons learned from the attack.

That way, the terrorists wouldn't have been successful in changing the NYC skyline.  Now, there is visual evidence of the attack.

The NYC skyline changes all the time.

But not as a result of a hostile attack.

The best "Eff You!" we could have sent to Al Qaeda is to rebuild the towers.


Or you know, go on and build something new without concern for what Al Qaeda might feel about it.
 
2013-10-28 10:42:30 AM  

dittybopper: Tom_Slick: People actually listen to a common no talent vandal?

In this case, he's right.  The *PROPER* response would have been to rebuild the towers.  Make them visually similar, but with design and structural improvements from the lessons learned from the attack.

That way, the terrorists wouldn't have been successful in changing the NYC skyline.  Now, there is visual evidence of the attack.


The major structural improvement we could make next time is to make sure no mob-connected construction firms are allowed to be involved with the build.  Talked to a guy who helped build the towers shortly after their collapse.  He was convinced he and a lot of other people were going to jail forever once investigators figured out there was a lot less steel in the building and steel of a lower quality than the spec called for thanks to a couple of the subs responsible for supplying the steel being controlled by the Gambinos
 
2013-10-28 10:42:55 AM  
Back in the day, artists were all up in arms about the twin towers and how ugly they were and how they would ruin NYC's skyline. Artists were all dicks about the Eiffel Tower as well. So STFU Bansky
 
2013-10-28 10:43:45 AM  
They're way better than some of the first designs, which looked like a giant Albany (shudder).
 
2013-10-28 10:43:58 AM  

Mugato: There are a lot of things that demonstrate that the terrorists won. The design of a building is not one of them.


Well, it does kinda resemble a TSA detector-wand thingie.
 
2013-10-28 10:47:09 AM  

Mugato: There are a lot of things that demonstrate that the terrorists won. The design of a building is not one of them.


Actually, I think it is, at least in part.

No matter what happens, future terrorists can look at the southern tip of Manhattan and say "It is possible to leave a lasting and very visual impression.  All it takes is a few motivated people, and a good plan".
 
2013-10-28 10:47:28 AM  
So the fark is Banksy?
 
2013-10-28 10:48:04 AM  
Try again.

WHO the fark is Banksy?
 
2013-10-28 10:50:06 AM  

SilentStrider: Try again.

WHO the fark is Banksy?


Some jackass graffiti vandal who can't even sell his "art" on the street, who Ed Hardy aficionados think is the next Picasso.
 
2013-10-28 10:50:09 AM  
i.imgur.com

It's not Gherkin weird, but it's still an odd looking building. From a distance it looks like Lex Luthor planted a shard of kryptonite.
 
2013-10-28 10:50:34 AM  

dittybopper: James!: dittybopper: Tom_Slick: People actually listen to a common no talent vandal?

In this case, he's right.  The *PROPER* response would have been to rebuild the towers.  Make them visually similar, but with design and structural improvements from the lessons learned from the attack.

That way, the terrorists wouldn't have been successful in changing the NYC skyline.  Now, there is visual evidence of the attack.

The NYC skyline changes all the time.

But not as a result of a hostile attack.

The best "Eff You!" we could have sent to Al Qaeda is to rebuild the towers.


I have to say one of the prouder "USA! USA! USA!" moements I had, was the night of 9/11 , when we still weren't sure the attacks were over or who was behind them (at least not publically), etc, I was walking in downtown Chicago and I saw the Hancock tower (Chicago's other super-tall building, and considered a more likely target than the Sears Tower given it's location on the waterfront rather than in the middle of downtown)  Not only did it have the distinctive lights at the top of the tower blazing bright, but they had colored them Red, White, and Blue.   It was impossible to see it as anything but a "come at me, bro" and while foolhardy, it made me proud in a weird way
 
2013-10-28 10:57:57 AM  

James!: Or you know, go on and build something new without concern for what Al Qaeda might feel about it.


Meh.  I like the idea of farking back with them.

You know what we did when the Japanese attacked Pearl Harbor?  We farked back a million times harder. Eventually, with nuclear weapons.

And you want to know something?  The attack on Pearl Harbor wasn't as bad as the 9/11 attacks:

Deaths:
Pearl Harbor:  2,402 US military personnel killed, ~58 civilians killed.  ~1,200-1,300 injured.
9/11: 2,977 people killed, mostly civilians.  Over 6,000 injured.

Targets:
Pearl Harbor: US military assets in a (then) remote US territory.
9/11:  Buildings in the financial and political capitols of the United States.
 
2013-10-28 10:57:58 AM  
Catheteritization?
 
2013-10-28 10:58:46 AM  

Tom_Slick: SilentStrider: Try again.

WHO the fark is Banksy?

Some jackass graffiti vandal who can't even sell his "art" on the street, who Ed Hardy aficionados think is the next Picasso.


This.  He's a farkin' Limey, to boot.
 
2013-10-28 11:00:11 AM  

Barry Lyndon's Annuity Cheque: [i.imgur.com image 635x816]

It's not Gherkin weird, but it's still an odd looking building. From a distance it looks like Lex Luthor planted a shard of kryptonite.


Looks like it should be surrounded by Skeksis and Mystics.
 
2013-10-28 11:00:49 AM  

dittybopper: James!: Or you know, go on and build something new without concern for what Al Qaeda might feel about it.

Meh.  I like the idea of farking back with them.

You know what we did when the Japanese attacked Pearl Harbor?  We farked back a million times harder. Eventually, with nuclear weapons.

And you want to know something?  The attack on Pearl Harbor wasn't as bad as the 9/11 attacks:

Deaths:
Pearl Harbor:  2,402 US military personnel killed, ~58 civilians killed.  ~1,200-1,300 injured.
9/11: 2,977 people killed, mostly civilians.  Over 6,000 injured.

Targets:
Pearl Harbor: US military assets in a (then) remote US territory.
9/11:  Buildings in the financial and political capitols of the United States.


The problem with this is who "them" are.
 
2013-10-28 11:00:55 AM  

dittybopper: James!: Or you know, go on and build something new without concern for what Al Qaeda might feel about it.

Meh.  I like the idea of farking back with them.

You know what we did when the Japanese attacked Pearl Harbor?  We farked back a million times harder. Eventually, with nuclear weapons.

And you want to know something?  The attack on Pearl Harbor wasn't as bad as the 9/11 attacks:

Deaths:
Pearl Harbor:  2,402 US military personnel killed, ~58 civilians killed.  ~1,200-1,300 injured.
9/11: 2,977 people killed, mostly civilians.  Over 6,000 injured.

Targets:
Pearl Harbor: US military assets in a (then) remote US territory.
9/11:  Buildings in the financial and political capitols of the United States.


Ah, yes, two wars and a fist full of drone strikes later, not to mention waking the mastermind up in the middle of the night to shot him full of holes is nothing unless we use our real weapon, duplicating 40 year old architecture.
 
2013-10-28 11:02:13 AM  

SilentStrider: Try again.

WHO the fark is Banksy?


A attractive and successful African American?
 
2013-10-28 11:05:01 AM  
had to google this banky person, but i agree with him.
in itself the tower is nice, but considering what its replacing, its exceptionally underwhelming.
many new yorkers share this sentiment.
 
2013-10-28 11:05:39 AM  
About as useful as Dr. Jenny McCarthy's views of immunization and autism.

/oh wait, she's not a doctor?
//seriously, fark her
 
2013-10-28 11:05:52 AM  
Banksy fark Yeah!

img.fark.net
 
2013-10-28 11:06:02 AM  

Magorn: He was convinced he and a lot of other people were going to jail forever once investigators figured out there was a lot less steel in the building and steel of a lower quality than the spec called for thanks to a couple of the subs responsible for supplying the steel being controlled by the Gambinos


So, uh, why didn't we hear more about that? Seems like it could be an important factor in why the buildings collapsed as quickly as they did. More and better steel means it at least stays up longer and allows more people to get out, right? Seems like that would be an important thing for a commission to look into.
 
2013-10-28 11:06:21 AM  
No, the American security apparatus put in place after 9/11, Guantanamo, the NSA stuff, Zero Tolerance policies and other related issues shows that the terrorists have won. In order to catch the bad guys, the U.S. Gov't treats/suspects everyone of being evil.
 
2013-10-28 11:07:39 AM  

Priapetic: About as useful as Dr. Jenny McCarthy's views of immunization and autism.

/oh wait, she's not a doctor?
//seriously, fark her


I would.

/wait, it's no longer 1994
 
2013-10-28 11:08:11 AM  

MaudlinMutantMollusk: "Famed graffiti artist" shouldn't even be a sentence

/actually, it should carry about a 5 year sentence


You forgot to add there hasn't been any actual art created since the 1700s.
 
2013-10-28 11:08:17 AM  

dittybopper: James!: dittybopper: Tom_Slick: People actually listen to a common no talent vandal?

In this case, he's right.  The *PROPER* response would have been to rebuild the towers.  Make them visually similar, but with design and structural improvements from the lessons learned from the attack.

That way, the terrorists wouldn't have been successful in changing the NYC skyline.  Now, there is visual evidence of the attack.

The NYC skyline changes all the time.

But not as a result of a hostile attack.

The best "Eff You!" we could have sent to Al Qaeda is to rebuild the towers.


They really don't give a shiat.
 
2013-10-28 11:08:36 AM  
The new building to me just seems so bland and uninspiring, and the base is absolutely horrible. I suspect with the entire complex finished it will be a lot nicer and really, it's New York City, there are dozens of uninspiring buildings already so it really doesn't make much of a difference. Mainly, I think Bansky and a lot of people who agree with me look at other modern cities and some of the amazing architectural buildings going up all over the world and look at this one and go, meh. To each his own, though.
 
2013-10-28 11:08:39 AM  
It looks like a crystal shard.

But this banksy character is free to go back to England and wank and eat fish and chips if he likes.
What's he doing in NY anyway?
Making money, I bet.
 
2013-10-28 11:11:51 AM  
Banksy is a self-publicist first, artist second. He was just doing his job.
That new tower looks like it was designed so that any planes flown into it are deflected by the slippery, weird-angled sides.
NYC needs to get over itself, it IS an absolute shadow of what it used to be and will only decline in importance from now on.
 
2013-10-28 11:12:11 AM  
Banksy is quite right, from an artistic viewpoint. But, of course, you're in the country that pushed "Freedom Fries" and beats up Sikhs, so, yeah, good luck getting most folks to consider that viewpoint.

Also, subby, "Artist commenting on artistic impression" != "artist commenting on medical application".
 
2013-10-28 11:13:22 AM  

Relatively Obscure: Catheteritization?


I'm a little bit confused as to why my Weeners was deleted.  Fark has a long, proud history of mocking the misspelled word.  Both Rihanna and catheterization were spelled wrong (both still are), which is rather amusing given Subby's attempted point.  Some very fun threads have come about from mistakes.  This is the second headline today I've seen sanitized, i.e. made boring.
 
2013-10-28 11:13:23 AM  

dittybopper: James!: Or you know, go on and build something new without concern for what Al Qaeda might feel about it.

Meh.  I like the idea of farking back with them.

You know what we did when the Japanese attacked Pearl Harbor?  We farked back a million times harder. Eventually, with nuclear weapons.

And you want to know something?  The attack on Pearl Harbor wasn't as bad as the 9/11 attacks:

Deaths:
Pearl Harbor:  2,402 US military personnel killed, ~58 civilians killed.  ~1,200-1,300 injured.
9/11: 2,977 people killed, mostly civilians.  Over 6,000 injured.

Targets:
Pearl Harbor: US military assets in a (then) remote US territory.
9/11:  Buildings in the financial and political capitols of the United States.


A) The Sovereign nation of Japan went to war with us when they hit Pearl Harbor as the opening Salvo of a massive war, one that ended up taking 90,000 American lives and 255,000 wounded
B) We've already spent over a $1 trillion responding to that attack, much of it in the wrong place, but  Well over 1 million people have died as a driect result of our actions, either from US strikes or as a result  the civil war they caused in Iraq. And in Iraq alone we created more than 5 million refugees.   All for a single terrorist strike from an organization founded by a deragned rich boy whose corpse is now fish food with about 46 grains of American made lead lodged in his skull.   When is enough enough?
 
2013-10-28 11:13:52 AM  

skinink: No, the American security apparatus put in place after 9/11, Guantanamo, the NSA stuff, Zero Tolerance policies and other related issues shows that the terrorists have won. In order to catch the bad guys, the U.S. Gov't treats/suspects everyone of being evil.


So basically a continuation of the tactics perfected in the Cold War?
 
2013-10-28 11:14:27 AM  
I like it.
i.imgur.com
 
2013-10-28 11:14:47 AM  
Who?
 
2013-10-28 11:15:44 AM  

SilentStrider: Try again.

WHO the fark is Banksy?



This pretty much sums up what it's all about:

Stuff White People Like: Banksy
 
2013-10-28 11:15:51 AM  
I think artists are exactly the sorts of people who should be commenting on art. Sure, Banksy isn't universally admired as an artist, but the fact that he is admired can not be refuted. (Check his bank balance.)

Good or bad, architecture is the only art form that we all have to live with and around; we don't get to choose to see it or not, it is just there. It deserves more attention from critics because of that. Even critics like Banksy.
 
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