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2013-10-28 09:49:30 AM  

Pin Fiften Clob: doubled99: Notice to people who get their panties in a wad over a Halloween costume: It's a farking stupid dress up holiday, and there is no need to get butthurt about it.

I guess "White Girls" is the most offensive movie ever then.

Because black people have a history of owning/controlling/disenfranchising white people


Actually, that did happen:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slavery_in_Africa#Slavery_practices_thr ou ghout_Africa
 
2013-10-28 09:49:34 AM  

doubled99: I guess "White Girls" is the most offensive movie ever then.


Yes, but not for the reason your dumb ass is implying.

/ go unjustifiably feel persecuted somewhere else
 
2013-10-28 09:51:19 AM  

Mugato: doubled99: I guess "White Girls" is the most offensive movie ever then.

White people don't have a history of extremely racist cartoons about them being depicted as animals or Amos n Andy or the aforementioned minstrel shows. Hence the difference.


Nope. Sorry. If whites in blackface are racist, then blacks in whiteface are racist, too.  And then add the sexism of men posing as women, and you have "White Chicks".

/And if you take away blacks in whiteface, you have Madea...
 
2013-10-28 09:51:31 AM  
Wow, Fark is extra shiatty.  Maybe tomorrow, Farkers, maybe tomorrow.
 
2013-10-28 09:53:11 AM  
My little sister(23) wanted to go as one of the chicks from 'Orange is the New Black.' My father called her up and tore her a new one over the black face. She washed it off.


/Which I was very thankful for so I didn't have to have that conversation with her.
 
2013-10-28 09:53:35 AM  
So, my rip off of Blue Man Group, Black Man Group is DUI? Or maybe it's DOA. I get them confused. Which reminds me. I gotta tell that lady to go to the morgue and not the detox center if she wants to see her husband.
 
2013-10-28 09:54:00 AM  
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2013-10-28 09:54:18 AM  

Gunny Highway: Wow, Fark is extra shiatty.  Maybe tomorrow, Farkers, maybe tomorrow.


Tomorrow, they'll be just as shiatty.
 
2013-10-28 09:54:58 AM  

"1) European

They have no cultural baggage and aren't operating under the same set of rules as USAmericans re: race relations."


Europe has it's own race issues, though unique in its own way. Haven't there been stories about black soccer players having bananas thrown at them by the fans, other players giving Fascist salutes to the fans, and Roma people being harasses and discriminated against? Plus antisemitism issues here and there? I like Europe but I wouldn't pretend that it's a perfect multicultural continent.

 
2013-10-28 09:55:03 AM  
I dunno, being trayvon for halloween is all the rage this year.
 
2013-10-28 09:55:04 AM  
I guess "White Girls" is the most offensive movie ever then.

Yes, but not for the reason your dumb ass is implying.

/ go unjustifiably feel persecuted somewhere else



You seem to misunderstand the story and the comments. Who's doing the biatching again?
 
2013-10-28 09:55:21 AM  

YoOjo: Why would anyone put paint on their face?
Seems like a good way to get a messy collar to me.


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GO DEVILS!
 
2013-10-28 09:56:29 AM  
There are over 7 billion people on this planet. Some of them think blackface is amusing and don't care if you're offended. You're just going to have to deal with it.
 
2013-10-28 09:57:18 AM  

blatz514: YoOjo: Why would anyone put paint on their face?
Seems like a good way to get a messy collar to me.

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GO DEVILS!


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What a go devil might look like.
 
2013-10-28 09:57:21 AM  
People falling down and hurting themselves is not funny, either. What is wrong with you people?!?
 
2013-10-28 09:57:48 AM  
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2013-10-28 09:59:02 AM  
Attention context-tards: paint is not racist. Traditional blackface was racist. Putting black paint on your face as a simple costume is not racist, it's just terrible taste and judgement. Putting on blackface as an homage to the minstrel shows is racist, or at least accidentally racist. Tracy Ullman in blackface is not necessarily racist, but as I haven't actually seen what she does with it I'll withhold judgement. Unless she's doing something profound, or at least hilarious, it is poor taste and judgement. Someone who doesn't know any better putting on blackface because they've seen pictures--like Europeans or teenagers--is not racist, it's just stupid.

If cute girls can dress as Hitler for Halloween without being labelled anti-Semites, then ignorant dumbasses can wear blackface without being racist. Stupid, yes, but not racist.
 
2013-10-28 09:59:20 AM  
blatz514:

GO DEVILS!

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2013-10-28 09:59:43 AM  
Comedy is not funny! What's wrong with you people?
 
2013-10-28 10:01:07 AM  
Meh. I thought it was kind of funny.
 
2013-10-28 10:01:36 AM  

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Two of my favorite moments from that show.

I's done stole'd dis catfish! 
Sir, I'm asking you as a human being to please stop talking like that! 
I's gon' eat it until I'm belly-full! 
This is debasing to the both of us. I was a Tuskegee Airman! 
Zip-a-dee-doo-doo! 
You may anger me, but I believe non-violence is the path to change. 
I believe you can catch a rainbow in yo hat! 
I'll kill you, you ignorant cracker!
 
2013-10-28 10:02:06 AM  

Harry Freakstorm: So, my rip off of Blue Man Group, Black Man Group is DUI? Or maybe it's DOA. I get them confused. Which reminds me. I gotta tell that lady to go to the morgue and not the detox center if she wants to see her husband.


Blue Man Group is insensitive to autoerotic asphyxiation victims.
 
2013-10-28 10:02:18 AM  
Subby, I totally agree.

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2013-10-28 10:04:19 AM  
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Half-white face and a cross!?!?! I'm offended!!!!
 
2013-10-28 10:04:43 AM  
Diogenes:
I_Am_Weasel: Something else that should be noted.  Disco Africa is a dumb theme for a party.

I don't know - I went to a Flapper Indonesia party and it was rockin'.


That is because flappers are awesome, but disco is not.

Kygz:
So much butthurt, why is blackface so bad if you're costuming as a black person?

1. historical connotations of "minstrel shows" that portrayed blacks as humorous idiots
2. people probably feel that their racial identity should not be someone else's Halloween costume

I actually dressed in blackface for Halloween as a teenager once, living in a very white area... the really weird thing was that nobody thought it was a bad idea, including my parents (who were not racist types).  I went to lots of houses and nobody said "go home, son, that's terrible".  Eventually, I saw a black family walking past (they didn't see me, thankfully) and suddenly, having a grossly overdue epiphany, dived behind a shrubbery and then booted it home.  Definite "WTF was I thinking" memory there.
 
2013-10-28 10:04:54 AM  

Carth: So you mean going as black face trayvon martin isn't a good idea?


No, that would be the worst kind of casual racism. It also isn't really a costume in the traditional sense; it's a douche-bro outfit on a douche-bro. It's the semantic equivalent of George W. Bush going to a Halloween party dressed as a fool in motley made of presidential seals.
 
2013-10-28 10:05:12 AM  
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doubled99: I guess "White Girls" is the most offensive movie ever then.


I'll see your 'White Girls' and raise you a 'White Chicks'
 
2013-10-28 10:07:47 AM  

Mr_Ectomy: Europeans care not for white America's guilt. I'll alert the media.


They love to wag their fingers at America for its racial issues. But they don't really care to be criticized for treating African migrant labor as virtual slaves, for example.
 
2013-10-28 10:08:04 AM  
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gopher321: What about whiteface? Is that funny?

/jest stirrin' the shiat...


Sometimes it is.
 
2013-10-28 10:08:22 AM  
No Richard Pryor / Gene Wilder?
 
2013-10-28 10:08:59 AM  
Where do the Frank Zappa blackface images (Joe's Garage most notably) fall?

He was quite obviously not racist, and was likely trolling, but is he being given a pass?

I can't imagine a contemporary artist of his stature (hard to think of one working today that compares) using a similarly themed image as an album sleeve not incurring a Twitter-storm.
 
2013-10-28 10:10:30 AM  

doubled99: I guess "White Girls" is the most offensive movie ever then.


Not really. When actors put on Whiteface, they are parodying Blackface, not White people. Any serious comparative historical examination of the two practices makes this pretty clear.
 
2013-10-28 10:11:16 AM  
The author of TFA actually made some sense:

"And while the idea of blackface on Halloween is complicated - the line between "tribute" and mockery is a dicey one - the blackface costume here, a white man dressed as the kind of white men who made a living mocking black men, falls resoundingly in the offensive box."

Growing up in the decidedly non-PC 60's we might have dressed as Aunt Jemima or a pickaninny but we knew enough not to do the blackface thing.
 
2013-10-28 10:11:19 AM  

dv-ous: 1) European

They have no cultural baggage and aren't operating under the same set of rules as USAmericans re: race relations.

2) Fashionistas

Even if they were, they are soulless automatons without conscience or regard for others. So it doesn't matter.


Do you wanna guess who started African slavery in the New World.  And who transported the vast majority of Africans that ended up n the US?  And developed a lot of the ridiculous racial theories?  Hint: Not Americans - they just aped their superiors.
 
2013-10-28 10:12:17 AM  
Note to celebrities: blackface is not funny, it never has been funny, it never will be funny. What the fark is wrong with you idiots?

And I bet you have a friend that is black too.

/someone's trying too hard
 
2013-10-28 10:12:40 AM  

StrikitRich: Sometimes it is.


That's because Eddie Murphy's old Jewish guy character was a reversal of Al Jolsons Jewish Blackface in the Jazz Singer.
 
2013-10-28 10:13:22 AM  

Kygz: So much butthurt, why is blackface so bad if you're costuming as a black person?


So much butthurt from blackface fans who can't believe everyone doesn't think blackface is totes awesome.
 
2013-10-28 10:14:19 AM  
This white boy went as Clarence Thomas one year to a halloween party a long long time ago. Complete with copy of Hustler, and a coke can that I wanted some women to put pubic hairs on. Sort of worked, too. I'll just leave it at that.

And "Check & Double Check" was quite funny if you have the right sense of humor & history.
 
2013-10-28 10:15:08 AM  

Somacandra: doubled99: I guess "White Girls" is the most offensive movie ever then.

Not really. When actors put on Whiteface, they are parodying Blackface, not White people. Any serious comparative historical examination of the two practices makes this pretty clear.


I think Eddie Murphy was doing a little bit more than parodying blackface.
 
2013-10-28 10:15:23 AM  
Taco - Puttin' on the Ritz (uncensored Blackface version):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OG3PnQ3tgzY">http://www.youtube.com/w atch?v=OG3PnQ3tgzY
 
2013-10-28 10:17:33 AM  

Mugato: doubled99: I guess "White Girls" is the most offensive movie ever then.

White people don't have a history of extremely racist cartoons about them being depicted as animals or Amos n Andy or the aforementioned minstrel shows. Hence the difference.


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2013-10-28 10:18:40 AM  
If you are dressing up as a specific character, the goal is to look as much like that character as possible.

It's not like she was doing some broad stereotypical black person costume.

Get over it.
 
2013-10-28 10:19:01 AM  

Somacandra: doubled99: I guess "White Girls" is the most offensive movie ever then.

Not really. When actors put on Whiteface, they are parodying Blackface, not White people. Any serious comparative historical examination of the two practices makes this pretty clear.


And I can't think of one example in recent memory where a white person put on blackface and the joke was, "Look how stupid black people look." Those who don't understand context are farking idiots.
 
2013-10-28 10:19:21 AM  
*wanders off to watch a bugs bunny clip  "Mammy"* A meme before some wiseass created the word "meme".

http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/mammy-bugs-bunny-blackface
 
2013-10-28 10:19:57 AM  

garandman1a: This white boy went as Clarence Thomas one year to a halloween party a long long time ago. Complete with copy of Hustler, and a coke can that I wanted some women to put pubic hairs on. Sort of worked, too. I'll just leave it at that.

And "Check & Double Check" was quite funny if you have the right sense of humor & history.


The Clarence Thomas thing is funny. Dressing up as an actual slave in chains, however, is the same as a skinny person dressing as a Holocaust corpse. It shouldn't be hard to distinguish that the former works and the latter does not. Anyone who flutters their eyelids and ponders "why is [x] OK when [y] is not" is either being deliberately obtuse for the sake of their own bias, or is truly counting to potato.
 
2013-10-28 10:20:22 AM  

memebot_of_doom: No Richard Pryor / Gene Wilder?


Need some Dan Aykroyd as well.
 
2013-10-28 10:20:43 AM  

someonelse: Mr_Ectomy: Europeans care not for white America's guilt. I'll alert the media.

They love to wag their fingers at America for its racial issues. But they don't really care to be criticized for treating African migrant labor as virtual slaves, for example.


I've lived in both the USA and Europe, multiple locations including the Deep South and whiter-than-white Zurich, and most of what lies between, so I have an opinion...
thinkthat Americans have a guilt around race that Europeans don't have, or at least, definitely don't have to the same extent. Also, US society has made great efforts to address that collective guilt by appeasement and positive affirmation. Less so in Europe.
From my perspective the US is terribly embarrassed by it's racist past, some white people go to extraordinary lengths to be PC about race now, and some black people go to similar lengths to remain offended.
In Europe it's acknowledged that slavery was an abomination, but I think they moved on and dealt with the guilt better. Or maybe faster, seeing as race relations in the USA were behind those in Europe up until the 1960s.
Not sure what the answer is other than, can't we all just get along?
 
2013-10-28 10:21:00 AM  

DoomPaul: There are over 7 billion people on this planet. Some of them think blackface is amusing and don't care if you're offended. You're just going to have to deal with it.


There are over 7 billion people on the planet. Some of them think molesting children is amusing and don't care if you're offended. See how little logic your comment makes now? There's disgusting people on the planet, and just cos they exist (as your comment implies) doesn't mean we have to keep quiet and `deal with it`. Yes some people find racist humour amusing but that doesn't make it acceptable or them any less ignorant.
 
2013-10-28 10:23:10 AM  
Dressing in blackface is bad.  Painting your face and wearing Native American Indian outfits on football Sunday is ok.  Got it
 
2013-10-28 10:24:01 AM  
YoOjo: In Europe it's acknowledged that slavery was an abomination, but I think they moved on and dealt with the guilt better.

Maybe they're just better at denial. It's not like Europe is free of rampant racism today.
 
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