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2013-10-28 08:20:29 AM
More of an education on the dangers of the police, which is sadly a far more valuable lesson.
 
2013-10-28 08:30:44 AM
The student was taken to St. Vincent Clay hospital and treated for minor injuries. Max has been taken out of service to undergo testing.

Right.  Blame the dog for doing what you've trained him to do.

It was the dog's fault the whole operation was poorly thought out.  Stupid dog.
 
2013-10-28 08:31:24 AM
Lawsuit time.
 
2013-10-28 08:36:56 AM
That's some mighty fine police work there Lou.

Can we please end this farcical WAR ON DRUGS now?
 
2013-10-28 09:29:53 AM
Well, that'll learn him.
 
2013-10-28 09:50:29 AM
The handler ought to be beaten with a rod. An iron rod. That was goddamn stupid.

The dog should be given a treat for doing what it was trained to do.
 
2013-10-28 09:54:25 AM
Are you smarter than a 5th grader?
Apparently not, officer.
 
2013-10-28 09:54:49 AM
Done in one.
 
2013-10-28 09:55:56 AM
So now drug dogs are trained to physically attack suspects instead of just giving the handler a signal?
 
2013-10-28 09:56:49 AM
The story got it wrong, this was a dog ON drugs.
 
2013-10-28 09:57:02 AM

nekom: More of an education on the dangers of the police, which is sadly a far more valuable lesson.


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Yup.  When I was a boy, I was taught to find a policeman if I was in trouble.  My friends are teaching their kids to avoid police and never talk to them.
 
2013-10-28 09:57:46 AM

NoDitchDigging: So now drug dogs are trained to physically attack suspects instead of just giving the handler a signal?


Most drug dogs are also police dogs. They will act aggressively towards a suspect if that suspect shows aggression towards them or a handler, in the absence of a command (mostly in German or Dutch) to be passive and heel.
 
2013-10-28 09:58:21 AM
Incidents like this are unfortunate but to be expected as we extirpate the last drug markets from the country.

Just kidding, the War on Drugs has no possible victory condition.
 
2013-10-28 09:58:53 AM
I'm sure that officer will get the harshest possible slap on the wrist.

Can Fark get a POLICE tag?

Who's with me??
 
2013-10-28 10:00:36 AM

hardinparamedic: The dog should be given a treat for doing what it was trained to do.


Bite the only black kid in the class?

/c'mon...you know how cops think
 
2013-10-28 10:02:15 AM
God that's farked up. What's next, community sponsored invasions by mock SWAT teams at the kids houses to get their parents accustomed to the idea that they should expect this kind of thing to happen to them and just take it if their kid smokes a doob? Maybe they can randomly go to school kids houses and shoot their dogs too, cause you know.. it was running around and could have been a threat.
 
2013-10-28 10:03:06 AM
Fissile:
Yup.  When I was a boy, I was taught to find a policeman if I was in trouble.  My friends are teaching their kids to avoid police and never talk to them.

It's probably still a good idea to teach young children that police are there to help, because for them they USUALLY are.  But once you're about grown up, police are NOT there to help you, they are there to gather evidence against you and no other reason.

"I'm glad my client talked to the police" said no lawyer ever.
 
2013-10-28 10:03:56 AM
Officer needs to be taken out of service to undergo testing, not the dog.

The dog did what he was trained to do, but the officer made the bad decision to plant the drugs on the kid. That should never have happened. I hope the cop who made that call gets canned.

farking idiots!
 
2013-10-28 10:05:21 AM

DirtyDeadGhostofEbenezerCooke: Bite the only black kid in the class?


LOL.

At any rate, this was effin' stupid on the part of the handler. I know this because one of my friends did military K9s as an Army MP, and one of my coworkers husbands is actually a K9 Cop in Bartlett, TN.

One of the first things any K9 Cop will tell you is NOT to pet the doggie. He's not a pet - he's a working dog. The cute doggie will rip your face off. Pretty much the only person with any business messing with the dog is the handler, the kennel workers that dog is accustomed to, and - if the dog stays with the officer - the members of his immediate family.

Once he put that scent on the dog and put it to work, it didn't see a kid. It saw the guy in the foam suit it was taught to attack and subdue since it was a puppy.
 
2013-10-28 10:05:54 AM
This only served to educate the children on the dangers of POLICE.
Bunch of farking Barneys.
 
2013-10-28 10:06:05 AM
This illustrates the dangers of cops, not drugs.

"You see kids, if you have drugs we'll send people that are completely unaccountable for their actions to attack you and take all of your belongings."
 
2013-10-28 10:08:32 AM

Eddie Adams from Torrance: That's some mighty fine police work there Lou.

Can we please end this farcical WAR ON DRUGS now?


Can't. Too many on the drug-enforcement payroll now.
 
2013-10-28 10:09:46 AM
Am I the only one who hates that site because the mostly naked wimmen posted at the bottom of each of the articles there?
 
2013-10-28 10:10:44 AM
That will show them.

/I don't want to live on this plant anymore
 
2013-10-28 10:11:12 AM

Fissile: Yup. When I was a boy, I was taught to find a policeman if I was in trouble. My friends are teaching their kids to avoid police and never talk to them.


Same here.  We are teaching our kids to call or talk to police only if there is absolutely no other option.  If a cop is interrogating them then they need to keep their mouth shut and only say that they wan their parent present.  Cops will lie and hurt them to get evidence that may or may not exist to convict them of things they may or may not have done.  Truth is irrelevant, only evidence matters to cops and how many people they can convict.  This is not paranoia, this is reality.  If someone is trying to hurt them or damage/steal things from our house they can call the police, but they have to understand that the cops have stated that they have no obligation to help them or save their lives.  The days when a cop would risk his life to save you from harm is long long gone.  You are on your own, save yourself or die.

Honestly this should be taught in schools and on Saturday morning TV specials.
 
2013-10-28 10:11:30 AM
JustAnother Day That Ends In Y
 
2013-10-28 10:11:38 AM

"Comply! Stop resisting! Stop resisting! Damned kids!"

This had nothing to do with educating children on "drug awareness." This was meant to teach children to comply with authority. "OK, kids, when the cops show up, here's how you comply - stand stock still, or the nice doggie will bite the hell out of you! OOPS! Looks like Billy's got some heroin on him! Guess MacGruff's going to have to take a bite out of Billy! Don't run, Billy, you'll just make it worse for yourself..."

Compliance training went well - Little Billy now knows he can be arbitrarily punished by authority figures, for no reason, and no one will even have to apologize to him - after all, a judge lawfully ordered the police to simulate a drug raid on middle-school kids, and, well, Billy did wiggle his legs when told to comply, so it's really no one's fault but Billy's that the dog bit the hell out of him.

The police aren't there for you. You're just part of the job.
 
2013-10-28 10:11:39 AM
God I love this country. Land of the free and stuff. Let's watch the Super Bowl and listen to some freedom loving Pop Country & Western, but only after we go to church and thank Baby Jesus for our liberties.
 
2013-10-28 10:13:17 AM
If I hand a kid a beer to hold and not drink I am charged with a crud load of offenses and deemed a threat to children with the possibility of having my children removed fron my care. All because I needed to tie my shoe and didn't want to put a drink down in the ground. But a cop can put drugs on a kid and that's ok?
 
2013-10-28 10:13:35 AM
 
2013-10-28 10:15:04 AM

orclover: Fissile: Yup. When I was a boy, I was taught to find a policeman if I was in trouble. My friends are teaching their kids to avoid police and never talk to them.

Same here.  We are teaching our kids to call or talk to police only if there is absolutely no other option.  If a cop is interrogating them then they need to keep their mouth shut and only say that they wan their parent present.  Cops will lie and hurt them to get evidence that may or may not exist to convict them of things they may or may not have done.  Truth is irrelevant, only evidence matters to cops and how many people they can convict.  This is not paranoia, this is reality.  If someone is trying to hurt them or damage/steal things from our house they can call the police, but they have to understand that the cops have stated that they have no obligation to help them or save their lives.  The days when a cop would risk his life to save you from harm is long long gone.  You are on your own, save yourself or die.

Honestly this should be taught in schools and on Saturday morning TV specials.


Yep. The cops aren't there to help you any more. They're there to maintain order and ensure compliance - and that's it. That's why they're being militarized, and have been since the 80's. They're being trained to pacify you, to force you to comply, not to help or assist you.
 
2013-10-28 10:15:26 AM

tboucher: Am I the only one who hates that site because the mostly naked wimmen posted at the bottom of each of the articles there?


Yes.
 
2013-10-28 10:18:10 AM

FormlessOne: not to help or assist you.


Isn't that cute.

ksaz.images.worldnow.com

wgcl.images.worldnow.com

assets.nydailynews.com

Blindly following authority is bad, but the other extreme makes you look stupid too.
 
2013-10-28 10:20:27 AM

I_Am_Weasel: The student was taken to St. Vincent Clay hospital and treated for minor injuries. Max has been taken out of service to undergo testing.

Right.  Blame the dog for doing what you've trained him to do.

It was the dog's fault the whole operation was poorly thought out.  Stupid dog.


To be fair, the dog was clearly the smartest one involved and should have known better.
 
2013-10-28 10:21:19 AM

SilentStrider: Lawsuit time.


This.

Lawsuits all around. Keep the dumbasses away from the kids in the future.
 
2013-10-28 10:22:06 AM
Drug dogs are just a convenient way for the police to do an end-run around the constitution. "Well, I can't search your vehicle without your consent or evidence of wrong-doing. Oh look! My dog says he smells something. Time to tear apart your personal property and see if we can find something illegal!!" The majority of Americans will cheer it on too, at least until it happens to them.
 
2013-10-28 10:22:37 AM

nekom: It's probably still a good idea to teach young children that police are there to help, because for them they USUALLY are.


You mean the same police that will take the kid away and put them in foster care because daddy was found with a joint on the weekend?
 
2013-10-28 10:22:57 AM
Well, if the fifth grader had nothing to hide, then he wouldn't have had anything to worry about, now would he???

/Am I doing it right?
 
2013-10-28 10:24:02 AM
This is the only drug education I would give my kids:   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MdOKUb0jQko

Though I wonder if the cops would wonder why my car has a loose kitty cat and a couple of raw tbones sitting on the back dash

/Free Barry Cooper!!!
 
2013-10-28 10:24:20 AM

SpectroBoy: nekom: It's probably still a good idea to teach young children that police are there to help, because for them they USUALLY are.

You mean the same police that will take the kid away and put them in foster care because daddy was found with a joint on the weekend?


That's why I say USUALLY.  I'm talking about say a child who is in danger of being abducted for instance, you'd want the cops all over the place there.
 
2013-10-28 10:25:16 AM

hardinparamedic: FormlessOne: not to help or assist you.

Isn't that cute.

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Blindly following authority is bad, but the other extreme makes you look stupid too.


I remember a time when Paramedics were part of the state/local infrastructure.  Now they are almost all part of a hospital, all business.  Which is why when my wife recently dropped her bike we told the paramedics to get the fark away from us or we would sue them.  Merely sitting in the back of a ambulance and getting a bandaid could rack up a $500 medical bill.  Health and pain management should not be a business.  Neither should public safety.  But here we are, and it sucks ass.  Well it sucks ass unless you are well off financially.  Then I guess it's awesome.
 
2013-10-28 10:27:32 AM
Two very valuable lessons were learned. Police plant drugs and police dogs bite.
 
2013-10-28 10:28:59 AM

hardinparamedic: FormlessOne: not to help or assist you.

Isn't that cute.

[ksaz.images.worldnow.com image 640x360]

[wgcl.images.worldnow.com image 600x338]

[assets.nydailynews.com image 635x423]

Blindly following authority is bad, but the other extreme makes you look stupid too.


..and that's not their job. Posting three examples of initiative isn't the same as "making it part of their job." Lots of examples of cops not giving a rat's ass about you, however.

Using outliers as the mean isn't exactly demonstrating your intelligence, either.
 
2013-10-28 10:30:18 AM
No idea why - but always think of J. Walter Weatherman in stories like these.

geeksentinel.com
 
2013-10-28 10:35:23 AM

hardinparamedic: The handler ought to be beaten with a rod. An iron rod. That was goddamn stupid.

The dog should be given a treat for doing what it was trained to do.


If the story is to be belived the dog bit a person who moved without being commanded to.

Is that what they are trained to do?

Because that sounds like it is trained to be an attack dog.
 
gja [TotalFark]
2013-10-28 10:37:00 AM
Well, this kid just landed a bag-o-money. Freaking brainless, idiotic cops.
I hope the jackasses in the PD enjoy the bad press and funds-drain.
 
2013-10-28 10:37:48 AM

I_Am_Weasel: The student was taken to St. Vincent Clay hospital and treated for minor injuries. Max has been taken out of service to undergo testing.

Right.  Blame the dog for doing what you've trained him to do.

It was the dog's fault the whole operation was poorly thought out.  Stupid dog.


No, no, no. It was the kid's fault for getting figgity because some full grown police dog, that probably outweighed the kid, started sniffing the kid.

"Max began searching the juveniles," added Chief McQueen. "The first male juvenile began moving his legs around as Max searched him. When the male began moving his legs, [this is what] I believe prompted Max's action to bite the male juvenile on the left calf."

The cop and school administrators that allowed this to happen in the first place are totally innocent.
 
2013-10-28 10:38:34 AM
The dog has to be put down.
 
gja [TotalFark]
2013-10-28 10:39:46 AM

angrymonday: The dog  handler cop has to be put down.


FTFY
 
2013-10-28 10:40:40 AM
The kid was probably hopped up on goofballs.
 
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