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2013-10-27 10:30:01 PM
No foundation by that name that I can find. I have a friend in the AGO who I am sure would find that interesting.
 
2013-10-27 11:41:27 PM
Florida is becoming a libertarian paradise.
 
2013-10-28 12:14:55 AM
Good: Pumpkin festival organizer hands out free tickets.
Bad: Tickets good for children only.
Fark: Children get in for free anyway.


...so? Sounds like promotional activity.

Florida bonus: money goes to shady charity

Money from all the free tickets?

/bad headline is bad
 
2013-10-28 12:17:01 AM
Squash it!
 
2013-10-28 12:23:11 AM
*checks Lazaruskids,org*

Hmm... Let's see now. Bare-bones website. Only posts are a single "Hello World!" on the main page, and 3 robo-posts the Blog portion of the site. All google results reference the Sarasota Pumpkin Festival.

Yeah. Seems legit.
 
2013-10-28 12:25:15 AM

Bucky Katt: Florida is becoming a libertarian paradise.


Libertarian, yes. Paradise under any definition of the term, Helz no.
 
2013-10-28 12:25:29 AM

feckingmorons: No foundation by that name that I can find. I have a friend in the AGO who I am sure would find that interesting.


If there's ends up being a hilarious takedown video, or something, PLEASE post a followup thread. I'd like to see "Lazarus Fernandez" having his balls used as a pinata by some actual sick/underprivileged kids.
 
2013-10-28 12:28:33 AM
Doesn't say anything about children on the ticket.  Anyone who paid admission should get a refund.  The coupon isn't good for what you  intend, it's good for what it  says.  The contract is contained within the 4 corners of the coupon, not on a website somewhere.

images2.wikia.nocookie.net

/should have said 1 per customer
 
2013-10-28 12:29:18 AM
FTA: "They do look completely different but to the naked eye you don't know which one it is."

OK, he gets a pass. That makes sense.
 
2013-10-28 12:42:10 AM
Aside from a sort-of reference to "All Children's Hospital," the mission statement of the org says it exists to raise money, through community, to benefit... itself.

Hmmmmmmmm....
 
2013-10-28 12:42:12 AM

Hz so good: *checks Lazaruskids,org*

Hmm... Let's see now. Bare-bones website. Only posts are a single "Hello World!" on the main page, and 3 robo-posts the Blog portion of the site. All google results reference the Sarasota Pumpkin Festival.

Yeah. Seems legit.


Double bonus, the contact info on the Lazarus kidswebsite is a small house on a narrow side road that is also listed as the headquarters of Spotlight Amusements, a party and carnival rental store with the most eye hurting website I have seen since geocities shut down...
/personal opinion, the "charity" is a scam excuse for Spotlight amusement to bilk some suckers, and the Lazarus part will come into play if anyone questions them, it will die and miraculously resurrect as another fictional charity
 
2013-10-28 12:42:40 AM
They should take a cue from the Shriner's Circus and let everybody in, and then make money on the 3/4s dead elephant "ride".
 
2013-10-28 12:47:57 AM
Pribar:
Double bonus, the contact info on the Lazarus kidswebsite is a small house on a narrow side road that is also listed as the headquarters of Spotlight Amusements, a party and carnival rental store with the most eye hurting website I have seen since geocities shut down...
/personal opinion, the "charity" is a scam excuse for Spotlight amusement to bilk some suckers, and the Lazarus part will come into play if anyone questions them, it will die and miraculously resurrect as another fictional charity


GAH! You warned us, and I still clicked on that site anyway...

/Great. Now I'm colorblind.
 
2013-10-28 12:49:02 AM
The tickets contain potassium benzoate.
 
2013-10-28 12:53:51 AM
Anyone in the area who isn't a 1-year transplant knows to go to Hunsader's Pumpkin Featival, anyway.
 
2013-10-28 12:59:17 AM

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: Anyone in the area who isn't a 1-year transplant knows to go to Hunsader's Pumpkin Featival, anyway.


Truth!
 
2013-10-28 01:10:21 AM
Sounds like a scooby doo episode
 
2013-10-28 01:12:04 AM

feckingmorons: No foundation by that name that I can find. I have a friend in the AGO who I am sure would find that interesting.


I hope your friend is better than you and the guy from the article...

According to sunbiz.org (Florida's Department of State, Division of Corporations) The Lazarus Foundation, Inc. is an active Florida Nonprofit Corporation.

The President and Registered Agent is listed as Lazarus Fernandez.

A whois search of the website (lazaruskids.org) shows Lazarus Fernandez and Lazarus Foundation as the registrant.

GuideStar says Lazarus Foundation is legitimately listed with the IRS and gives their EIN.

An EIN search on irs.gov confirms Lazarus Foundation's status as a public charity, eligible to receive tax-deductible contributions.


Does this mean the Lazarus Foundation is a good charity?  No.  But their papers are in order.
 
2013-10-28 01:19:54 AM
Look Farkers. If you can't trust someone named "Lazarus Fernandez", who can you trust?
 
2013-10-28 01:21:15 AM

Hz so good: Pribar:
Double bonus, the contact info on the Lazarus kidswebsite is a small house on a narrow side road that is also listed as the headquarters of Spotlight Amusements, a party and carnival rental store with the most eye hurting website I have seen since geocities shut down...
/personal opinion, the "charity" is a scam excuse for Spotlight amusement to bilk some suckers, and the Lazarus part will come into play if anyone questions them, it will die and miraculously resurrect as another fictional charity

GAH! You warned us, and I still clicked on that site anyway...

/Great. Now I'm colorblind.


Seconded. I enabled java just in case there was autoplay music and unfortunately there was not. Also, it lacks animated gifs. Step it up, Spotlight Amusements!
 
2013-10-28 01:21:34 AM

jtown: Doesn't say anything about children on the ticket.  Anyone who paid admission should get a refund.  The coupon isn't good for what you  intend, it's good for what it  says.  The contract is contained within the 4 corners of the coupon, not on a website somewhere.

[images2.wikia.nocookie.net image 259x195]

/should have said 1 per customer


shoulda but didn'a
 
2013-10-28 01:23:21 AM
What my pumpkin thinks of this festival:

www.bogoboo.com
 
2013-10-28 01:53:12 AM

99.998er: FTA: "They do look completely different but to the naked eye you don't know which one it is."

OK, he gets a pass. That makes sense.


That line made me lol as well.
 
2013-10-28 02:19:14 AM

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: Anyone in the area who isn't a 1-year transplant knows to go to Hunsader's Pumpkin Featival, anyway.


And, while Hunsader's isn't for charity or anything, the Hunsader family funds an orphanage in Cambodia and don't go around begging for other people to give them money through shady charities to do it. They do it because they're decent human beings and I don't think it's even something they advertise--I know it because mutual friends went to volunteer there.
 
2013-10-28 03:30:44 AM
This sounds like the sort of thing grumpy old men complain about bitterly.  Like they have no intention of ever going to this thing, have no children either way, but someone hands them a flyer and it starts a 3 day rant about the subject.
 
2013-10-28 04:10:25 AM

stonelotus: feckingmorons: No foundation by that name that I can find. I have a friend in the AGO who I am sure would find that interesting.

I hope your friend is better than you and the guy from the article...

According to sunbiz.org (Florida's Department of State, Division of Corporations) The Lazarus Foundation, Inc. is an active Florida Nonprofit Corporation.

The President and Registered Agent is listed as Lazarus Fernandez.

A whois search of the website (lazaruskids.org) shows Lazarus Fernandez and Lazarus Foundation as the registrant.

GuideStar says Lazarus Foundation is legitimately listed with the IRS and gives their EIN.

An EIN search on irs.gov confirms Lazarus Foundation's status as a public charity, eligible to receive tax-deductible contributions.

Does this mean the Lazarus Foundation is a good charity?  No.  But their papers are in order.


Truncation fail. If you search for the actual name provided, "Lazarus Foundation Kids Force", you find nothing.
 
2013-10-28 04:13:21 AM
If you search for the actual name provided, "Lazarus Foundation Kids Force", you find nothing to support your contention that it's a legitimate tax-deductible charity.

FTFM. (Speaking of truncation fails.)
 
2013-10-28 08:46:26 AM

ArcadianRefugee: Good: Pumpkin festival organizer hands out free tickets.
Bad: Tickets good for children only.
Fark: Children get in for free anyway.

...so? Sounds like promotional activity.

Florida bonus: money goes to shady charity

Money from all the free tickets?

/bad headline is bad


Okay... yes, the headline is bad. But here's what happened: The festival gave out 2 different kinds of free tickets: 100,000 Adult "VIP" tickets, and (apparently) tons of "children's" tickets. But it says this nowhere on the actual tickets themselves. They pretty much say nothing but "Free admission to pumpkin festival" on them. These families then go to the festival, and are told that their tickets are CHILDREN'S tickets, and the adults have to pay admission. But, the event is free to kids anyways, i.e. they don't need tickets to begin with. So the "Free" children's tickets are worthless for anything. My guess is that somehow more of these tickets got distributed than they had intended, and the "foundation" went in to OH SHIAT, how are we going to pay for this festival! mode, and decided to arbitrarily say that the type of ticket that got overdistributed was for kids only.

/I'm giving this Lazarus dude the benefit of considerable doubt, considering that his charity sounds like a front for the "Enrich Lazarus Fernandez" foundation.
 
2013-10-28 08:50:07 AM
Since the state of Florida has the highest rate of Credit Card and ID theft, this "Shady Charity" does not surprise me one bit.
 
2013-10-28 09:35:51 AM

jedikinkoid: stonelotus: feckingmorons: No foundation by that name that I can find. I have a friend in the AGO who I am sure would find that interesting.

I hope your friend is better than you and the guy from the article...

According to sunbiz.org (Florida's Department of State, Division of Corporations) The Lazarus Foundation, Inc. is an active Florida Nonprofit Corporation.

The President and Registered Agent is listed as Lazarus Fernandez.

A whois search of the website (lazaruskids.org) shows Lazarus Fernandez and Lazarus Foundation as the registrant.

GuideStar says Lazarus Foundation is legitimately listed with the IRS and gives their EIN.

An EIN search on irs.gov confirms Lazarus Foundation's status as a public charity, eligible to receive tax-deductible contributions.

Does this mean the Lazarus Foundation is a good charity?  No.  But their papers are in order.

Truncation fail. If you search for the actual name provided, "Lazarus Foundation Kids Force", you find nothing.


it's not my fault if the jackass from the article can't get the name right. if you search for the name provided in the article you deserve to come up empty handed. .  nowhere does Fernandez or his website claim the name of the organization is Lazarus Foundation Kids Force.
 
2013-10-28 09:38:21 AM
I was working as a vendor at this event. It was definitely busy, but the rides were way over priced. The organizers also did not permit food vendors to bring their own ice or water supply as it would be provided. Meaning the snow cone stand across from me was charged $4 per 20lb bag of ice. The electricity was problematic and cords were run in all directions, with little regard for pedestrian safety. The organizer, Lazarus, aka Lazarus foundation, aka Spotlight amusements, are all the same entitiy. He was rolling around in a golf cart all weekend. As soon as I spotted that a charity existed, I knew this was a type of scam and regretted signing up for the event.
 
2013-10-28 10:52:28 AM
You know, if Jon Stewart ever got eyeballs on this site, there'd be a new contender for the title of "Bullshiat Mountain".

So, Mr. Lazarus, exactly what DOES your "charity" do with all that money?

"The Lazarus Foundation is a public nonprofit organization who goes a step further, by really changing the lives of children in a positive way."

Um.... okay.  Maybe that question wasn't clear enough. How about something more concrete, like "Exactly what programs and/or research are you funding towards that noble goal?"

"...bringing people together to make change happen in individual, behavior, family support, community conditions and community support."

That doesn't really help. I don't suppose we could trouble you for something more specific?

"The Lazarus Foundation's goal is to enhance the lives of children of Sarasota County, inspiring and educating the community that no matter what happens in your life, you have the choice to change it.

The Lazarus Foundation fosters innovation, social and economic stability, and a dynamic and continually advancing society.

Through collaboration, advocacy, research and outreach, we believe that we can leverage our influence. We seek to help connect and amplify the expertise and wisdom already present in this community to make Sarasota County the best place to raise a child.

The Lazarus Foundation, creating "The Lazarus Effect" one day at a time by improving the quality of life in Sarasota Florida, now and forever, building a culture of giving.  Children will be provided with opportunities to realize their full potential through fulfilling life experiences."

So basically, you run festivals to give children "fulfilling life experiences" and collect the money?

"Hello world!"

Thank you for your time, Lazarus. It hasn't exactly been enlightening, but it has been entertaining.
 
2013-10-28 02:06:30 PM
 
2013-10-28 03:21:41 PM
Years ago, I worked for a big grocery store and we used to every year have bunches of children's circus tickets to give away.  They clearly explained on them in print that they were for children's admission (under a certain age, 12 maybe?).  In somewhat smaller print, but still highly visible and understandable, it also stated that there was a maximum number of children's tickets that could be used per paid adult entry (like 4 kids per adult I think) and that children could not attend unaccompanied by an adult. It was in big bold print on both the tickets themselves and the little cardboard holder for the tickets that it was a free CHILD's ticket. Yes, the circus made plenty of money selling mom and dad tickets while letting the little ones in free.  But it still made for fairly inexpensive family fun.  Grown-up tickets were like 10 bucks a pop.  So for 20 bucks, two parents and 8 kids could to the circus.  Not a bad family entertainment value.  But it was all totally obvious at anything more than a second's glance that it wasn't going to be absolutely free for everyone.  It would not have been challenging or unprecedented for this guy to have done his ticket giveaways the very same way if he intended to be on the up and up.  He was totally trying to scam families.  He planned on a lot of people showing up and having got themselves and especially the kids all geared up to have some fun that they'd just pay for the admission instead of going home.
 
2013-10-28 04:43:16 PM

dimossi: Lazaro Fernandez =  Lazarus Fernandez?

http://florida.arrests.org/Arrests/Lazaro_Fernandez_5528225/

http://heraldtimesonline.com/stories/2004/02/26/news.0226-HT-A2_DEH3 46 52.sto


Hmm... Similar name, president of spotlight events (close enough), both on 3900 Midland Rd, etc.... *typetypetype*

AWESOME! I do believe you've found our man. Kudos!   :D
 
2013-10-28 04:51:03 PM

TheKiltedDutchman: I was working as a vendor at this event. It was definitely busy, but the rides were way over priced. The organizers also did not permit food vendors to bring their own ice or water supply as it would be provided. Meaning the snow cone stand across from me was charged $4 per 20lb bag of ice. The electricity was problematic and cords were run in all directions, with little regard for pedestrian safety. The organizer, Lazarus, aka Lazarus foundation, aka Spotlight amusements, are all the same entitiy. He was rolling around in a golf cart all weekend. As soon as I spotted that a charity existed, I knew this was a type of scam and regretted signing up for the event.


Probably way too late, but did he look like this?

/Again, good catch dimossi! If I knew how to give the gift of totalfark without having to become a member again, I'd do it for you. You earned it.
 
2013-10-28 05:59:39 PM

stonelotus: feckingmorons: No foundation by that name that I can find. I have a friend in the AGO who I am sure would find that interesting.

I hope your friend is better than you and the guy from the article...

According to sunbiz.org (Florida's Department of State, Division of Corporations) The Lazarus Foundation, Inc. is an active Florida Nonprofit Corporation.

The President and Registered Agent is listed as Lazarus Fernandez.

A whois search of the website (lazaruskids.org) shows Lazarus Fernandez and Lazarus Foundation as the registrant.

GuideStar says Lazarus Foundation is legitimately listed with the IRS and gives their EIN.

An EIN search on irs.gov confirms Lazarus Foundation's status as a public charity, eligible to receive tax-deductible contributions.


Does this mean the Lazarus Foundation is a good charity?  No.  But their papers are in order.


Thanks Ace, this ain't my first rodeo.

The charity is not registered to solicit in Florida You can check that at the Florida Department of Agriculture and Consumer Services (or with LexisNexis like I did)
There are two listed with Lazarus in the name:

Gainesville, FL Print
Registration Number :CH18401 Expiration Date : 2/21/2014
Revenue Source : DCS Statement of Support/Revenue (12/31/2012)
Total Revenue : $8,210.20 Program Services Expenses : $.00 0%
Total Expenses : $7,352.83 Administrative Expenses : $7,352.83 100%
Surplus/Deficit : $857.37 Fundraising Expenses : $.00 0%

The Andra Lazarus Foundation, Inc., Plantation, FL Print
Also Soliciting as
Andra'S Hand
Registration Number :CH35131 Expiration Date : 9/13/2014
Revenue Source : IRS 990EZ (08/31/2012)
Total Revenue : $20,800.00
Total Expenses : $.00
Surplus/Deficit : $20,800.00 IRS Reported Expenses : $.00 0%


The Florida Secretary of State has four listings for Lazarus Foundation, three of which are inactive, the only active one is not near the one listed as a charity with DOACS, in fact it is on the other side of the state from Myakka city.

So while there are several corporations with the same or similar names, none are properly registered, nor are the proper disclosures made on the website as required by law.

Before you tell people they are wrong, you should be absolutely sure you're right.
 
2013-10-28 07:35:11 PM

All the deception aside, if you paid to get in the Pumpkin ScamFest the other night, you may have at least gotten to witness an awesome dirt bike crash.


http://www.youtube.com/w atch?v=7VJg0PEZ33s

 
2013-10-28 11:55:05 PM

Hz so good: Probably way too late, but did he look like this?


Yes, he looks exactly like that.  His rides were sketchy and over priced, too.  I have never been to a paid event with this high attendance with such poor equipment and staffing.  I hope someone shuts him down for good.
 
2013-10-29 12:26:01 AM

TheKiltedDutchman: Hz so good: Probably way too late, but did he look like this?

Yes, he looks exactly like that.  His rides were sketchy and over priced, too.  I have never been to a paid event with this high attendance with such poor equipment and staffing.  I hope someone shuts him down for good.


Between what dimossi and Pribar found, and your first hand account, I'd say you stand a good chance of getting this asshole into some trouble. Take what's in here in the thread, and run with it. You might even get on local TV or something. :)
 
2013-10-29 12:35:40 AM

Greek: ArcadianRefugee: Good: Pumpkin festival organizer hands out free tickets.
Bad: Tickets good for children only.
Fark: Children get in for free anyway.

...so? Sounds like promotional activity.

Florida bonus: money goes to shady charity

Money from all the free tickets?

/bad headline is bad

Okay... yes, the headline is bad. But here's what happened: The festival gave out 2 different kinds of free tickets: 100,000 Adult "VIP" tickets, and (apparently) tons of "children's" tickets. But it says this nowhere on the actual tickets themselves. They pretty much say nothing but "Free admission to pumpkin festival" on them. These families then go to the festival, and are told that their tickets are CHILDREN'S tickets, and the adults have to pay admission. But, the event is free to kids anyways, i.e. they don't need tickets to begin with. So the "Free" children's tickets are worthless for anything. My guess is that somehow more of these tickets got distributed than they had intended, and the "foundation" went in to OH SHIAT, how are we going to pay for this festival! mode, and decided to arbitrarily say that the type of ticket that got overdistributed was for kids only.

/I'm giving this Lazarus dude the benefit of considerable doubt, considering that his charity sounds like a front for the "Enrich Lazarus Fernandez" foundation.


Oh, I'm not saying the guys behind the fiasco (or is it a scandal?) aren't douche-nozzles (is that still the "in" thing to say online?), just that the headline sucks.
 
2013-10-29 12:38:31 AM

Hz so good: TheKiltedDutchman: Hz so good: Probably way too late, but did he look like this?

Yes, he looks exactly like that.  His rides were sketchy and over priced, too.  I have never been to a paid event with this high attendance with such poor equipment and staffing.  I hope someone shuts him down for good.

Between what dimossi and Pribar found, and your first hand account, I'd say you stand a good chance of getting this asshole into some trouble. Take what's in here in the thread, and run with it. You might even get on local TV or something. :)


Latest news coverage:

SNN:  https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=526998960711087
ABC 7 News follow-up story:  http://www.mysuncoast.com/news/local/festival-organizer-dodges-questi o ns-about-foundation/article_2c5b9196-4044-11e3-b9f6-0019bb30f31a.html
 
2013-10-29 12:53:27 AM
dimossi:

I love how he tried to drop it in his wife's lap! Even if Senor Shiatbird doesn't see jail time over this scam, maybe his wife will use his nutsack for a speedbag for a while.

*evil laugh*
 
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