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2013-10-27 07:30:55 PM
Mike seems to be a stand up guy.  Sometimes he reminds me of Reagan in his early year touring the country before running for office.
 
2013-10-27 07:37:56 PM
Mike Rowe is the farking man.  Let him do what he wants.
 
2013-10-27 07:40:47 PM
But prepare yourself - you might be forced to conclude that my true objective here has little to do with winning or losing your approval.

100% WIN.
 
2013-10-27 08:34:04 PM
He's going where the money is like the good little shill he is.
 
2013-10-27 08:36:03 PM
Mike Rowe is like a living Ron Swanson, and he's on my wife's "freebie" list.  I'm going to give him a pass on dealing with Beck, because of our respect for him, but I'd warn him that Beck is the one that is going to use the association with Rowe to his own ends over time.  Mike's washed off a lot of objectionable substances from his body in the course of his career.  I look at this appearance as another "dirty job", but  will Beck's reputation as a huckster for political and corporatist interests (and gold line) rub off on Mike to tarnish his image?  Time will tell.    I respect that Mike wants to engage the beast, to show derpistani's what an old-fashioned liberal working man might look like,  but I'd rather see him starve it of the attention it feeds on.
 
2013-10-27 08:41:57 PM

Katolu: He's going where the money is like the good little shill he is.


This. If he wants to whore himself out to idiots, then fine and dandy. Just don't get pissy when someone calls you out on it.
 
2013-10-27 08:52:43 PM
My name's Mike Rowe and this is my jerb. I tour the country looking for show hosts who aren't afraid to get derpy. Hard derping men and women who somehow earn a living hosting the kinds of shows that make otherwise civilized folks want to kill each other. Now get ready, to get derpy.
 
2013-10-27 09:09:25 PM
I like Mike Rowe and don't care too much what host he wants to hang out with.

All I said someplace was "Glenn Beck? Really?" which is basically just a kinda verbal raised eyebrow, and I got accused of attacking ol' Glenny by yet another townie acquaintance.

Shiat, I really do live in a derp enclave.
 
2013-10-27 09:30:16 PM
A great many people on the left survive on hate. They can't just believe that someone thinks differently. It has to be because they are evil.

They can dispute this, but how many farkers refuse to click a link to MotherJones? How many say Maher is evil?
 
2013-10-27 09:47:20 PM

Mrbogey: A great many people on the left "right" survive on hate.


Corrected that for you. You might try passing it on to whomever told you to express that opinion.
 
2013-10-27 09:55:32 PM

Mrbogey: A great many people on the left survive on hate. They can't just believe that someone thinks differently. It has to be because they are evil.

They can dispute this, but how many farkers refuse to click a link to MotherJones? How many say Maher is evil?


DailyKos gets frequent "Not clicking" posts. And plenty of folks hate on Maher.
 
2013-10-27 09:58:06 PM

Gecko Gingrich: Mrbogey: A great many people on the left survive on hate. They can't just believe that someone thinks differently. It has to be because they are evil.

They can dispute this, but how many farkers refuse to click a link to MotherJones? How many say Maher is evil?

DailyKos gets frequent "Not clicking" posts. And plenty of folks hate on Maher.


Rowe even mentions that he received similar amounts of hate mail from the right when he appeared on Maher's show.  I watched that episode, and I thought he was well spoken, and had some good ideas, but he also came off as a bit naive in terms of expecting corporations to actually give a damn about job training and doing what's best for the workers.
 
2013-10-27 10:44:16 PM

Mrbogey: A great many people on the left survive on hate. They can't just believe that someone thinks differently. It has to be because they are evil.


You do realize the rest of us can see the thread. right?
 
2013-10-27 10:58:32 PM

Gecko Gingrich: DailyKos gets frequent "Not clicking" posts. And plenty of folks hate on Maher.


I've never seen anyone refuse to click a link to Kos on Fark. Nor have I seen someone on Fark say Maher was a horrible psychopath nasty racist. Calling someone dumb or wrong is one thing. To say Beck is a racist psychopath though? Come on?
 
2013-10-27 11:12:05 PM
A lot of folks seem surprised when The Daily Show has Bill O'Reilly as a guest fair often.

Bill Maher has Anne Coulter on how often?

Does this mean that Bill is liberal lefty who wants to turn all capital over to the masses and collectivize the nation? Does this mean that Anne, because she appears on a show, that she agrees with Bill on everything?

We NEED dialog in this country. We need REAL dialog in this country. Right now, we have a rising amount of narrative, and Beck is certainly part of that phenomenon. As Americans, we can disagree about a fair amount, and still respect one another enough to not question the validity of every damn thing that comes out of one another's mouths. Are there folks who prove that they can't be trusted to do this, but you can deal with them.
 
2013-10-27 11:23:01 PM

Mrbogey: Gecko Gingrich: DailyKos gets frequent "Not clicking" posts. And plenty of folks hate on Maher.

I've never seen anyone refuse to click a link to Kos on Fark. Nor have I seen someone on Fark say Maher was a horrible psychopath nasty racist. Calling someone dumb or wrong is one thing. To say Beck is a racist psychopath though? Come on?


Is Maher a racist? He's a misogynist, sure, why would someone call him a racist if he's not a racist? Do you get mad when people correctly call the right-wing nutters racist when they do or say racist shiat?
 
2013-10-27 11:49:35 PM

dr_blasto: He's a misogynist, sure, why would someone call him a racist if he's not a racist?


Look, if you're going to be fair and balanced, you have to call him a racist. It's the rules, or something.
 
2013-10-27 11:58:07 PM
Mike who?
 
2013-10-28 12:01:02 AM

Mrbogey: I've never seen anyone refuse to click a link to Kos on Fark.


Then you haven't been paying attention and/or have a very selective memory.

As for Mike Rowe, good for him.  I doubt he followed Beck's lead and predicted the rise of the Fourth Reich under Obama, and he got some cool cash for his foundation, meaning Beck was useful in a good way for once.
 
2013-10-28 12:06:53 AM
It's a great foundation and he's a straight-talking man who will use any microphone offered to get the word out. I also find him amusing and hard-working and believe he is looking to get people to work (which they need) where they're needed for this country to run smooth and safe.
 
2013-10-28 12:07:04 AM

Bucky Katt: Mike who?


Please turn in your Fark card on the way out the door please.
 
2013-10-28 12:08:15 AM
Subby, some people don't click on links to The Blaze because they don't want to support it financially or because they find the content useless.

That doesn't mean they condemn people for associating with people that they disagree with politically.

It's two completely different things.
 
2013-10-28 12:11:53 AM

Loonaci: It's a great foundation and he's a straight-talking man who will use any microphone offered to get the word out. I also find him amusing and hard-working and believe he is looking to get people to work (which they need) where they're needed for this country to run smooth and safe.


Agreed, it is a good foundation and Mike Rowe is not concerned or motivated by partisanship, he'll use just about anyone's microphone to reach as many people as he can. And that's it.
 
2013-10-28 12:16:51 AM
I have a hard time getting worked up about who Mike Rowe does a show with. That being said, the whole "We can't shut out the other side if we want to make peace" thing breaks down when you're talking about people who literally make their living being fanatical zealots. Both sides have people who exist, not to increase dialog or promote their world view, but simply to make money by being political extremists. Those people are the gasoline on the fire, and engaging them in dialog doesn't help. If I were a celebrity, I don't think I'd lend whatever credibility I had to that kind of person.
 
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2013-10-28 12:25:07 AM
Mike Rowe does not have a "hard job", as most of them involve him sitting in front of a microphone since Dirty Jobs was cancelled.  He's hocking Ford cars, what's the point of busting on a guy for taking advantage of the cards he was dealt.  Good for him; I should be so fortunate.
 
2013-10-28 12:34:52 AM
I suppose raping and killing a young girl in 1990 would be considered a dirty job.
 
2013-10-28 01:11:45 AM
I read that in Mike Rowe's voice.
 
2013-10-28 01:43:11 AM

Bareefer Obonghit: I suppose raping and killing a young girl in 1990 would be considered a dirty job.


Beat me! Just like that girl...
 
2013-10-28 02:45:14 AM

Bareefer Obonghit: I suppose raping and killing a young girl in 1990 would be considered a dirty job.


What does raping and killing a young girl in 1990 have to do with this thread? I'm just asking questions...
 
2013-10-28 02:50:13 AM
Mike Rowe? fark that guy. He pledged $50 to a charity drive a friend of mine ran back when he was a local TV guy and refused to pay up. His crew, all of whom made significantly less than him, all paid up on their pledges.
 
2013-10-28 02:58:42 AM

Mithiwithi: Bareefer Obonghit: I suppose raping and killing a young girl in 1990 would be considered a dirty job.

What does raping and killing a young girl in 1990 have to do with this thread? I'm just asking questions...


A TFer asking this question?  Really?

Also, as a conservative leaning white veteran, I like to read things from all sources.  If the presenter has the manner of "the other side is just evil" or "the other side is just stupid", they don't get much of my time.
 
2013-10-28 02:59:00 AM

Mrbogey: Gecko Gingrich: DailyKos gets frequent "Not clicking" posts. And plenty of folks hate on Maher.

I've never seen anyone refuse to click a link to Kos on Fark. Nor have I seen someone on Fark say Maher was a horrible psychopath nasty racist. Calling someone dumb or wrong is one thing. To say Beck is a racist psychopath though? Come on?


Maher is a racist. Ask wayne brady.
 
2013-10-28 03:01:37 AM

knbwhite: Mithiwithi: Bareefer Obonghit: I suppose raping and killing a young girl in 1990 would be considered a dirty job.

What does raping and killing a young girl in 1990 have to do with this thread? I'm just asking questions...

A TFer asking this question?  Really?

Also, as a conservative leaning white veteran, I like to read things from all sources.  If the presenter has the manner of "the other side is just evil" or "the other side is just stupid", they don't get much of my time.


What conservative sources does that leave you with?
 
2013-10-28 03:06:25 AM

Kyosuke: Katolu: He's going where the money is like the good little shill he is.

This. If he wants to whore himself out to idiots, then fine and dandy. Just don't get pissy when someone calls you out on it.


You and I clearly have differing views on what 'pissy' looks like.
 
2013-10-28 03:07:09 AM
Look, I'd normally be on Rowe's side, if he appeared on the O'Reilly Factor or some other conservative thing, that'd be fine... my beef with Glenn Beck isn't that he's conservative, it's that he seems to have no connection to reality. I don't mind his nasty talk, and I don't mind him talking down to everyone... but I mind that he tries to stir the pot over things like FEMA concentration camps, $200 million dollar a day trips, and death panels. Meeting with people you disagree with is not only ok, but great, it is how progress gets made and things get done... but holding "meetings" with delusional people like Beck is no more productive than holding it with someone who believes he is currently aboard the Starship Enterprise.
 
2013-10-28 03:08:20 AM
That letter seemed to amount to "Hey lady, can't you see I'm trying to play both sides here so I can get ahead? Now by calling me on it you're forcing me to admit he's nuts!" It's similar to the response a lot of heads of state around the world are suddenly having to show, since it's been publicly reported that they were helping US intelligence collect information on people. Just like when the Italian government had to feign outrage at the US over extraordinary renditions that the Italian government directly facilitated - everything would've been cool if someone hadn't opened their big mouth.
 
2013-10-28 03:11:20 AM

Podmore: I have a hard time getting worked up about who Mike Rowe does a show with. That being said, the whole "We can't shut out the other side if we want to make peace" thing breaks down when you're talking about people who literally make their living being fanatical zealots. Both sides have people who exist, not to increase dialog or promote their world view, but simply to make money by being political extremists. Those people are the gasoline on the fire, and engaging them in dialog doesn't help. If I were a celebrity, I don't think I'd lend whatever credibility I had to that kind of person.


That was more eloquently put than the post I was writing, with significantly fewer curse words.

Beck repeatedly accuses people he disagrees with of treason, of terrorism, of fascism, of every evil under the sun. He's a broken sewer pipe spewing divisive rhetoric and insane conspiracy theories. It's people like him who are responsible for the recent turn the GOP has taken where they regularly threaten the country with shutdowns and defaults because he's convinced the rank and file that Democrats are utter evil and can't be negotiated with.

If you treat people like Beck as though they are normal TV personalities you are legitimizing them. I've lost as much respect for Rowe for this as I would if he did something with David Icke. Perhaps more - Icke is a nutball but his actions aren't demonstrably harming the country.
 
2013-10-28 03:13:54 AM

Krieghund: Subby, some people don't click on links to The Blaze because they don't want to support it financially or because they find the content useless.

That doesn't mean they condemn people for associating with people that they disagree with politically.

It's two completely different things.


DAMMIT! Stop making sense!
 
2013-10-28 03:14:27 AM
I read the link. Seems like mike Rowe doesn't actually know who Glenn beck is or what he believes. Was I supposed to think well of this ignorance? Is that what you were going for?
 
2013-10-28 03:15:25 AM
Thanks for reminding me to check the link, subby.  Not clicking that shiat.
 
2013-10-28 03:15:29 AM

firefly212: Look, I'd normally be on Rowe's side, if he appeared on the O'Reilly Factor or some other conservative thing, that'd be fine... my beef with Glenn Beck isn't that he's conservative, it's that he seems to have no connection to reality. I don't mind his nasty talk, and I don't mind him talking down to everyone... but I mind that he tries to stir the pot over things like FEMA concentration camps, $200 million dollar a day trips, and death panels. Meeting with people you disagree with is not only ok, but great, it is how progress gets made and things get done... but holding "meetings" with delusional people like Beck is no more productive than holding it with someone who believes he is currently aboard the Starship Enterprise.


Pretty much came here to say that. Don't care how "classy" or not it appears, sometimes the only winning move is not to play.
 
2013-10-28 03:16:01 AM

Bucky Katt: Mike who?


Some guy who used to have a tv show who's apparently reduced to appearing on Glenn Beck's show these days in order to hustle money for a charity he runs.

Beck likes him because Mike's pro trades school/anti diploma rhetoric meshes nicely with Beck's liberal elitists in Ivory tower rhetoric.

Me, I'm more of a Tony Robinson "Worst Jobs in History" fan.
 
2013-10-28 03:16:13 AM
Reading that, I was reminded of this piece of rhetoric:

But you can't hold a whole fraternity responsible for the behavior of a few, sick twisted individuals. For if you do, then shouldn't we blame the whole fraternity system? And if the whole fraternity system is guilty, then isn't this an indictment of our educational institutions in general? I put it to you, Greg - isn't this an indictment of our entire American society? Well, you can do whatever you want to us, but we're not going to sit here and listen to you badmouth the United States of America. Gentlemen!
 
2013-10-28 03:16:29 AM

hubiestubert: A lot of folks seem surprised when The Daily Show has Bill O'Reilly as a guest fair often.

Bill Maher has Anne Coulter on how often?

Does this mean that Bill is liberal lefty who wants to turn all capital over to the masses and collectivize the nation? Does this mean that Anne, because she appears on a show, that she agrees with Bill on everything?

We NEED dialog in this country. We need REAL dialog in this country. Right now, we have a rising amount of narrative, and Beck is certainly part of that phenomenon. As Americans, we can disagree about a fair amount, and still respect one another enough to not question the validity of every damn thing that comes out of one another's mouths. Are there folks who prove that they can't be trusted to do this, but you can deal with them.


This only makes sense in a world where people like Bill O'Reilly and Ann Coulter reasonably provide well supported counterpoints to arguments when on shows with people like Jon Stewarts/Bill Mahers. Something that makes me say "You know what, that's an interesting argument, I'll have to thoughtfully consider it, now, here's my response." That's a dialog. What we actually get is barely disguised hate speech and talking points masquerading as facts.
 
2013-10-28 03:22:36 AM
So who's next on Rowe's charity tour?  Alex Jones?
 
2013-10-28 03:23:16 AM
This guy Rowe never impressed me as anything but an opportunistic no-talent, and I'm not surprised he hangs out with human shiat like Beck, and I think anybody lame enough to be a Mike Rowe "fan" needs to kill themselves, not write him snotty letters.
Of course he's going to defend himself - a dog will eat it's own shiat - it doesn't know any better.
 
2013-10-28 03:26:07 AM
I find Mike Rowe rather small and petty.

However, his brother Mac is a larger-than-life person for certain....
 
2013-10-28 03:27:06 AM

knbwhite: Also, as a conservative leaning white veteran, I like to read things from all sources. If the presenter has the manner of "the other side is just evil" or "the other side is just stupid", they don't get much of my time.


...and I don't give much of my time to guys who call Obama an oppressive anti-Christian tyrant who hates white people.
 
2013-10-28 03:27:58 AM

Mrbogey: Gecko Gingrich: DailyKos gets frequent "Not clicking" posts. And plenty of folks hate on Maher.

I've never seen anyone refuse to click a link to Kos on Fark. Nor have I seen someone on Fark say Maher was a horrible psychopath nasty racist. Calling someone dumb or wrong is one thing. To say Beck is a racist psychopath though? Come on?


jjorsett: Kyosuke: Katolu: He's going where the money is like the good little shill he is.

This. If he wants to whore himself out to idiots, then fine and dandy. Just don't get pissy when someone calls you out on it.

You and I clearly have differing views on what 'pissy' looks like.


Jesus, Fark. Are these two sad f**ks the best we can do? I may have to become a right wing troll, just to show these little girls how it's done.
Pitiful, just pitiful.
 
2013-10-28 03:31:48 AM
I'll post it here for those of you who are too open-minded to click the enemy's link and read it.

www.theblaze.com

Well, hi there, Shannon - and a pleasant good morning to you too!
If you want a detailed answer to your question, please take a moment to read my earlier reply to Bob Reidel, another crestfallen soul who couldn't reconcile my association with a TV host that he personally despised. As you read it (out loud, if possible, and in a public place), kindly replace the words "Bob Reidel" with "Shannon K. Walsh," and "Bill Maher" with "Glenn Beck." But prepare yourself - you might be forced to conclude that my true objective here has little to do with winning or losing your approval.As for your personal characterization of Glenn Beck, I can only assume you have information not available to me. In my time with him, I saw nothing "horrible, psychotic, hateful, or nasty." I smelled no burning sulphur, no smoldering brimstone, and saw no sign of cloven hooves.To the contrary, I found a very passionate guy who employs about 300 people, works his butt off, and puts his money where his mouth is. Do we agree on everything? Of course not. Am I "disappointed" by that fact? Not at all. The real question, Shannon, is ... why are you?
To be clear, I'm not here to tell you what to think or whom to hate. Like everyone else, you're free to pick your devils, choose your angels, and attach the horns and halos accordingly.

But the guts of your question - even without all the name-calling and acrimony - reveal the essence of what's broken in our country. You want to know "how I can associate" with someone you don't like? The short answer is, how can I not? How are we ever going to accomplish anything in this incredibly divisive time if we associate only with people that we don't disagree with?


Fark Glenn Beck, but hell, in the last paragraph Mike Rowe nails each and every one of you too.
 
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