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(NJ.com)   Punching police dogs to avoid arrest in a burglary investigation is no way to go through life, son. Also lady, trying to prevent said juvenile's arrest by jumping in the middle of the situation is also no way to go through life   (nj.com) divider line 32
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2013-10-27 05:27:48 PM  
The suspect only pawn...in game of life.

www.11alive.com
 
2013-10-27 05:30:06 PM  
Can you be charged with assaulting a police officer if you kick a police dog?
 
2013-10-27 05:36:52 PM  

baronbloodbath: Can you be charged with assaulting a police officer if you kick a police dog?


K9 handlers do not fark around if you assault their partner.

Also, from the wiki: "In most states, a police dog is considered a full-fledged police officer, sometimes even given a badge. As such, most laws find assaulting a police dog to be equal or very similar to assaulting a human officer, and as a result some agencies will deem it acceptable for officers to open fire on a person who is intentionally hurting a police dog, with apparent attempt to kill it."
 
2013-10-27 05:39:49 PM  

baronbloodbath: Can you be charged with assaulting a police officer if you kick a police dog?


Yes..

 I'm of the notion that using animals to attack people is disgusting. Tracking dogs and so forth
have their place. But not every police force in the country needs a dog, because then you have to justify
the officer and a dog and all the special crap that goes with it. And using the dog when it's not really
needed, or using it as a weapon just to make use of it to justify it's existence,happens.

ts2.mm.bing.net
If this was shameful in the 1960, isn't it shameful today?
 
2013-10-27 05:57:12 PM  
My baby didn't do nothing!
 
2013-10-27 05:58:29 PM  
Authorities say the youth obstructed their investigation into the burglaries and physically resisted when an officer attempted to arrest him.

I'd really like more details here. "Obstructing" and "resisting" are far too often police weasel words when they just want to fark with someone who pisses them off.
 
2013-10-27 06:06:43 PM  

Mr. Shabooboo: baronbloodbath: Can you be charged with assaulting a police officer if you kick a police dog?

Yes..

 I'm of the notion that using animals to attack people is disgusting. Tracking dogs and so forth
have their place. But not every police force in the country needs a dog, because then you have to justify
the officer and a dog and all the special crap that goes with it. And using the dog when it's not really
needed, or using it as a weapon just to make use of it to justify it's existence,happens.

[ts2.mm.bing.net image 300x260]
If this was shameful in the 1960, isn't it shameful today?


That said, many departments use dogs responsibly.  Even police forces with NO dogs see a benefit from police dogs. A friend on the local force has said that on most occasions, when they're trying to get someone out of a hiding place, they just say "Ok, we're sending in the dog!", and the suspect comes out voluntarily...only to discover there was no dog at all.  Apparently they're quite chagrined when they find out.
 
2013-10-27 06:08:53 PM  
There are some dogs that are definitely more on-task than GSDs and belgian M's. but they have a stigma that would just be a lawsuit magnet if they were used as police dogs.   GSDs tend to just run off or give up as soon as they are injured.  Where as some other dogs you have to literally empty your gun in  them to make them stop.

I've seen a Ridgeback mix take out every GSD/"gsd type" dog it ever tangled with.  But more cunning than smart...GSDs are definitely much smarter than a lot of dogs.
 
2013-10-27 06:14:42 PM  
fusillade762: 
I'd really like more details here. "Obstructing" and "resisting" are far too often police weasel words when they just want to fark with someone who pisses them off.

best cop term is "aggressive stance"
 
2013-10-27 06:55:19 PM  

Mr. Shabooboo: ts2.mm.bing.net
If this was shameful in the 1960, isn't it shameful today?


^This.
 
2013-10-27 07:04:39 PM  

Mr. Shabooboo: baronbloodbath: Can you be charged with assaulting a police officer if you kick a police dog?

Yes..

 I'm of the notion that using animals to attack people is disgusting. Tracking dogs and so forth
have their place. But not every police force in the country needs a dog, because then you have to justify
the officer and a dog and all the special crap that goes with it. And using the dog when it's not really
needed, or using it as a weapon just to make use of it to justify it's existence,happens.

[ts2.mm.bing.net image 300x260]
If this was shameful in the 1960, isn't it shameful today?


Context really. In that case they were setting the dogs on non-violent protestors who sole crime was being uppity. I recently saw a video where they sic the k-9 unit on a guy holding his family hostage. Dog took him out, cops swarmed in, arrested the man, and got the family out safely.
 
2013-10-27 07:15:02 PM  
Use of force and all that aside....why would you ever punch anything that's going to bite off your hand when you do so?
 
2013-10-27 07:25:04 PM  

Mr. Shabooboo: baronbloodbath: Can you be charged with assaulting a police officer if you kick a police dog?

Yes..

 I'm of the notion that using animals to attack people is disgusting. Tracking dogs and so forth
have their place. But not every police force in the country needs a dog, because then you have to justify
the officer and a dog and all the special crap that goes with it. And using the dog when it's not really
needed, or using it as a weapon just to make use of it to justify it's existence,happens.

[ts2.mm.bing.net image 300x260]
If this was shameful in the 1960, isn't it shameful today?


I agree with you, but this dog is badass and a GOOD BOY!
 
2013-10-27 07:31:50 PM  
assault on a police K-9

This pisses me off anymore... Considering the massive amounts of idiot pigs running around, shooting people's pets and getting off with the excuse it is just an animal, there should be NO double standard.

/should be no double standard with idiot cops breaking the law either...
 
2013-10-27 07:36:21 PM  

Gyrfalcon: Use of force and all that aside....why would you ever punch anything that's going to bite off your hand when you do so?


Lots of weak points on a dog, like its stomach, which can easily get twisted up inside and will result in a bad situation for them, or punching the ears can stun them, the eyes are good too. Also, grabbing its hind legs and swinging. And this site has an interesting technique that would probably take some practice, but you might figure it out real quick in a pinch.

Not recommending this is normal situations for the fun of it, of course, but if you're getting chewed up by some bad owner animal....
 
2013-10-27 08:10:30 PM  

Arachnophobe: baronbloodbath: Can you be charged with assaulting a police officer if you kick a police dog?

K9 handlers do not fark around if you assault their partner.

Also, from the wiki: "In most states, a police dog is considered a full-fledged police officer, sometimes even given a badge. As such, most laws find assaulting a police dog to be equal or very similar to assaulting a human officer, and as a result some agencies will deem it acceptable for officers to open fire on a person who is intentionally hurting a police dog, with apparent attempt to kill it."


The dog is a tool, period.  There is a prevailing myth around the country that attacking, or killing a police service animal (to include horses) is equal to killing or attacking a human police officer.  That is not true in any state.  All states include statutes specifically against animal cruelty as a general rule, many also include specific provisions covering police service animals.

You will not find, in any state in this country, a DA, Prosecutor, etc who deems it appropriate to kill a human being, simply because said human being killed, or was attacking a police animal.

Dogs are not humans, period.  The myth that it's considered murder if you kill a police animal, is insane.
 
2013-10-27 08:25:23 PM  

HideAndGoFarkYourself: Arachnophobe: baronbloodbath: Can you be charged with assaulting a police officer if you kick a police dog?

K9 handlers do not fark around if you assault their partner.

Also, from the wiki: "In most states, a police dog is considered a full-fledged police officer, sometimes even given a badge. As such, most laws find assaulting a police dog to be equal or very similar to assaulting a human officer, and as a result some agencies will deem it acceptable for officers to open fire on a person who is intentionally hurting a police dog, with apparent attempt to kill it."

The dog is a tool, period.  There is a prevailing myth around the country that attacking, or killing a police service animal (to include horses) is equal to killing or attacking a human police officer.  That is not true in any state.  All states include statutes specifically against animal cruelty as a general rule, many also include specific provisions covering police service animals.

You will not find, in any state in this country, a DA, Prosecutor, etc who deems it appropriate to kill a human being, simply because said human being killed, or was attacking a police animal.

Dogs are not humans, period.  The myth that it's considered murder if you kill a police animal, is insane.


Neither you nor the wiki have a citation to support either opinion(as it stands now). It would be helpful to know what the reality is currently.
 
2013-10-27 09:10:50 PM  

Mr. Shabooboo: I'm of the notion that using animals to attack people is disgusting.


forums.techguy.org

Would like a word with you outside.
 
2013-10-27 09:44:37 PM  

FrancoFile: My baby didn't do nothing!


No no no, it's "Mah bahbeee din no nuffin! He mah aaaaangel!"

Also, I really hate it when they pull "no pictures of minors" when it sounds like this little shiatbag should be charged as an adult and then shot out back after being found guilty.
 
2013-10-27 10:57:01 PM  
*** Current Through the 2013 Regular Session ***

TITLE 16.  CRIMES AND OFFENSES  
CHAPTER 11.  OFFENSES AGAINST PUBLIC ORDER AND SAFETY  
ARTICLE 4.  DANGEROUS INSTRUMENTALITIES AND PRACTICES  
PART 1.  GENERAL PROVISIONS

O.C.G.A. § 16-11-107  (2012)

§ 16-11-107.  Destroying or injuring police dog or police horse


   (a) As used in this Code section, the term:

   (1) "Accelerant detection dog" means a dog trained to detect hydrocarbon substances.

   (2) "Bomb detection dog" means a dog trained to locate bombs or explosives by scent.

   (3) "Firearms detection dog" means a dog trained to locate firearms by scent.

   (4) "Narcotic detection dog" means a dog trained to locate narcotics by scent.

   (5) "Narcotics" means any controlled substance as defined in paragraph (4) of Code Section 16-13-21 and shall include marijuana as defined by paragraph (16) of Code Section 16-13-21.

   (6) "Patrol dog" means a dog trained to protect a peace officer and to apprehend or hold without excessive force a person in violation of the criminal statutes of this state.

   (7) "Police dog" means a bomb detection dog, a firearms detection dog, a narcotic detection dog, a patrol dog, an accelerant detection dog, or a tracking dog used by a law enforcement agency. "Police dog" also means a search and rescue dog.

   (8) "Police horse" means a horse trained to transport, carry, or be ridden by a law enforcement officer and used by a law enforcement agency.

   (8.1) "Search and rescue dog" means any dog that is owned or the services of which are employed by a fire department or the state fire marshal for the principal purpose of aiding in the detection of missing persons, including but not limited to persons who are lost, who are trapped under debris as a result of a natural or manmade disaster, or who are drowning victims.

   (9) "Tracking dog" means a dog trained to track and find a missing person, escaped inmate, or fleeing felon.

(b) Any person who knowingly and intentionally destroys or causes serious or debilitating physical injury to a police dog or police horse, knowing said dog to be a police dog or said horse to be a police horse, shall be guilty of a felony and, upon conviction thereof, shall be punished by imprisonment for not less than one nor more than five years, or a fine not to exceed $10,000.00, or both. This subsection shall not apply to the destruction of a police dog or police horse for humane purposes.
 
2013-10-27 11:34:26 PM  

MassAsster: (b) Any person who knowingly and intentionally destroys or causes serious or debilitating physical injury to a police dog or police horse, knowing said dog to be a police dog or said horse to be a police horse, shall be guilty of a felony and, upon conviction thereof, shall be punished by imprisonment for not less than one nor more than five years, or a fine not to exceed $10,000.00, or both. This subsection shall not apply to the destruction of a police dog or police horse for humane purposes.


I think this is where the urban legend comes from. Most states have separate statutes for harming a police dog/horse as opposed to harming another animal.  Somehow this has morphed into the belief that harming a police dog is the same as harming a police officer.  I don't think that's true anywhere.
 
2013-10-27 11:35:49 PM  

baronbloodbath: Can you be charged with assaulting a police officer if you kick a police dog?


Yes, which is incredibly stupid. Not because I hate dogs (I love dogs) but because human cops like to pick and choose when service dogs are and aren't "police" dogs. Case in point: A police officer can walk his police dog around a parking lot for "leisure" and if that drug-sniffing dog starts going haywire over one particular car, it doesn't count as illegal search and seizure. If the dog is actually a cop, it's illegal search and seizure, yet they get away with it because hey, it's just a dog.
 
2013-10-28 12:12:39 AM  

another cultural observer: Mr. Shabooboo: baronbloodbath: Can you be charged with assaulting a police officer if you kick a police dog?

Yes..

 I'm of the notion that using animals to attack people is disgusting. Tracking dogs and so forth
have their place. But not every police force in the country needs a dog, because then you have to justify
the officer and a dog and all the special crap that goes with it. And using the dog when it's not really
needed, or using it as a weapon just to make use of it to justify it's existence,happens.

[ts2.mm.bing.net image 300x260]
If this was shameful in the 1960, isn't it shameful today?

That said, many departments use dogs responsibly.  Even police forces with NO dogs see a benefit from police dogs. A friend on the local force has said that on most occasions, when they're trying to get someone out of a hiding place, they just say "Ok, we're sending in the dog!", and the suspect comes out voluntarily...only to discover there was no dog at all.  Apparently they're quite chagrined when they find out.


Like that guy they caught by shouting Marco and the dude answered Polo.
 
2013-10-28 12:22:04 AM  

Maybe you should drive: MassAsster: (b) Any person who knowingly and intentionally destroys or causes serious or debilitating physical injury to a police dog or police horse, knowing said dog to be a police dog or said horse to be a police horse, shall be guilty of a felony and, upon conviction thereof, shall be punished by imprisonment for not less than one nor more than five years, or a fine not to exceed $10,000.00, or both. This subsection shall not apply to the destruction of a police dog or police horse for humane purposes.

I think this is where the urban legend comes from. Most states have separate statutes for harming a police dog/horse as opposed to harming another animal.  Somehow this has morphed into the belief that harming a police dog is the same as harming a police officer.  I don't think that's true anywhere.


The California code is pretty much the same.

(c) Any person who, in violation of this section, and with intent to inflict that injury or death, personally causes the death, destruction, or serious physical injury including bone fracture, loss or impairment of function of any bodily member, wounds requiring extensive suturing, or serious crippling, of any horse or dog, shall, upon conviction of a felony under this section, in addition and consecutive to the punishment prescribed for the felony, be punished by an additional term of imprisonment pursuant to subdivision (h) of Section 1170 for one year.

It's a FELONY to kill a police dog, and a pretty serious one depending on how the perpetrator does it; but it's not quite the same as killing a cop.
 
2013-10-28 12:23:22 AM  
Authorities say the dog did not appear to be injured.

How about letting the appropriate professional make that assessment? You know...a VET!
 
2013-10-28 12:48:06 AM  

Gyrfalcon: The California code is pretty much the same.

(c) Any person who, in violation of this section, and with intent to inflict that injury or death, personally causes the death, destruction, or serious physical injury including bone fracture, loss or impairment of function of any bodily member, wounds requiring extensive suturing, or serious crippling, of any horse or dog, shall, upon conviction of a felony under this section, in addition and consecutive to the punishment prescribed for the felony, be punished by an additional term of imprisonment pursuant to subdivision (h) of Section 1170 for one year.

It's a FELONY to kill a police dog, and a pretty serious one depending on how the perpetrator does it; but it's not quite the same as killing a cop.


Right, it is a felony.  But it is not the same as killing a cop.  Plenty of people have been put on death row for killing police officers.  Nobody has for killing a police canine.  It is an urban legend.
 
2013-10-28 12:50:00 AM  

TerminalEchoes: baronbloodbath: Can you be charged with assaulting a police officer if you kick a police dog?

Yes, which is incredibly stupid. Not because I hate dogs (I love dogs) but because human cops like to pick and choose when service dogs are and aren't "police" dogs. Case in point: A police officer can walk his police dog around a parking lot for "leisure" and if that drug-sniffing dog starts going haywire over one particular car, it doesn't count as illegal search and seizure. If the dog is actually a cop, it's illegal search and seizure, yet they get away with it because hey, it's just a dog.


There are so many incorrect statements here I wouldn't know where to begin.
 
2013-10-28 04:04:20 AM  

Mr. Shabooboo: If this was shameful in the 1960, isn't it shameful today?


You are really comparing burglars to Civil Rights activists?
 
2013-10-28 05:11:38 AM  
I warned you subby, about this headline meme. I have tracked you down using my shady internets abilities and right some large men are on their way round to feed your balls through the slats in a lawn chair
 
2013-10-28 06:47:02 AM  

fusillade762: Authorities say the youth obstructed their investigation into the burglaries and physically resisted when an officer attempted to arrest him.

I'd really like more details here. "Obstructing" and "resisting" are far too often police weasel words when they just want to fark with someone who pisses them off.


How uncooperative.
 
2013-10-28 07:50:46 AM  

Maybe you should drive: Mr. Shabooboo: If this was shameful in the 1960, isn't it shameful today?

You are really comparing burglars to Civil Rights activists?


Yes. Because someone is "bad" doesn't mean they deserve to be attacked by an animal,either
two or four legged. I'm no PETA person or anything, but using an animal as a weapon seems wrong
on many levels. You take a domesticated animal, and mind fark them into attacking humans. That is wrong.
Is that any better than torturing dogs into dog fighting? Using dog's for tracking and detecting, I understand that. Using dogs as a warning device and guard, i can understand. Those two things are very
much natural. Many dogs were domesticated and bred for those tasks.
 
2013-10-28 11:28:43 AM  

Lady J: I warned you subby, about this headline meme. I have tracked you down using my shady internets abilities and right some large men are on their way round to feed your balls through the slats in a lawn chair


Thank you. Jesus this meme is old and subby doubles up on it? Yawn.
 
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