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2013-10-27 11:49:08 AM  
10 things Obamacare won't tell you

I don't expect Obamacare to tell me anything.  It's an abstraction incapable of speech.
 
2013-10-27 11:57:00 AM  
Who would have thought a law invented by the Heritage Foundation, championed by Republicans for two decades, and implemented by Mitt Romney would screw people over?
 
2013-10-27 11:59:17 AM  
Is it HITLER SOCIALISM WORST CATASTROPHE IN HUMAN HISTORY EVER?

Because the mobile version is split into ten pages, and I only read the first.
 
2013-10-27 12:09:47 PM  
11:  People who post links to slideshows that deslide can't parse are worse than threadshiatting troll alts, and should be appropriately skewered with rusty serrated pitchforks
 
2013-10-27 12:18:39 PM  
Is #1 that it used to be the Republican plan before the Kenyan Usurper Empty Suit STOLEDED it?

IS IT?
IS IT?
IS IT?
 
2013-10-27 12:18:43 PM  

Therion: Is it HITLER SOCIALISM WORST CATASTROPHE IN HUMAN HISTORY EVER?



Close, Benghazi is worse though.
 
2013-10-27 12:22:03 PM  
It's not "free market" enough.

/by "free market", they mean having every insurance company relocate to Delaware or South Dakota.
 
2013-10-27 12:24:27 PM  
1. "You might want to avoid signing up right away."

[youdon'tsay.jpeg]
 
2013-10-27 12:49:31 PM  
Like Jesus, I take your page clicks upon myself, and suffer slideshows so you don't have to:

1. "You might want to avoid signing up right away."
2. "Yes, some workers are being required to use exchanges - but not these exchanges."
3. "Expect to be confused." (if you don't know how websites work)
4. "Don't bother asking our staff for recommendations."
5. "Blue states do it better."
6. "Abuse our honor system at your peril."
7. "You'll still pay for this, even if you don't use it." (i.e. how insurance works, plus subsidies)
8. "We're a magnet for hackers and con artists."
9. "You might not be able to keep your doctor." (if you choose a plan where your doctor is out of network, then your doctor will be... out of network)
10. "Competition is for the greater good - except when there aren't any competitors." (the free market is totally awesome, except where it isn't, then it's the government's fault)
 
2013-10-27 12:59:54 PM  
Number 11: It's the T4 Program all over again.

http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/topic/714411/T4-Program
 
2013-10-27 01:46:39 PM  

hubiestubert: Is #1 that it used to be the Republican plan before the Kenyan Usurper Empty Suit STOLEDED it?


Henry Aaron, a fellow with the centrist-to-liberal Brookings Institution, called the new health care law "a close relative" of Heritage's plan -- "not identical to be sure, but a sibling or at least a first cousin. The essence is that you have a government or nonprofit entity that regulates the sale of insurance to individuals or businesses in order to standardize offerings and to control selling methods in order to produce real, head-to-head competition and to provide customers information in forms they can readily understand. ... Yes, they are all different; but they are all of the same family. "

Obama enacted a plan similar to one Heritage pushed but most Republicans didn't support. Close enough for Democrat talking points though.
 
2013-10-27 02:14:20 PM  

Mrbogey: Obama enacted a plan similar to one Heritage pushed but most Republicans didn't support. Close enough for Democrat talking points though.


Yes, it does lack the flash of "death panels"
 
2013-10-27 02:18:43 PM  

nmrsnr: Like Jesus, I take your page clicks upon myself, and suffer slideshows so you don't have to:

1. "You might want to avoid signing up right away."
2. "Yes, some workers are being required to use exchanges - but not these exchanges."
3. "Expect to be confused." (if you don't know how websites work)
4. "Don't bother asking our staff for recommendations."
5. "Blue states do it better."
6. "Abuse our honor system at your peril."
7. "You'll still pay for this, even if you don't use it." (i.e. how insurance works, plus subsidies)
8. "We're a magnet for hackers and con artists."
9. "You might not be able to keep your doctor." (if you choose a plan where your doctor is out of network, then your doctor will be... out of network)
10. "Competition is for the greater good - except when there aren't any competitors." (the free market is totally awesome, except where it isn't, then it's the government's fault)


Blessed be your name
 
2013-10-27 02:20:14 PM  
Don't forget to post your success stories about ACA here
 
2013-10-27 02:22:00 PM  
Before Obamacare, I was a beautiful healthy young woman. Today I'm nothing but a shadow of my former self. Watch out, America!

Love & kisses,

Terri Schiavo
 
2013-10-27 02:27:36 PM  
Mrbogey: Obama enacted a plan similar to one Heritage pushed but most Republicans didn't support the minute he mentioned he supported it.

FTFY
 
2013-10-27 02:29:20 PM  

Mrbogey: Close enough for Democrat talking points though.

Even if not all of the ideas in the two plans are identical, we feel that it was fair of him to say that "a lot of the ideas" are in common, including the notion of pooling. So we conclude that the president's statement qualifies as Mostly True.


Thanks for the link!
 
2013-10-27 02:30:49 PM  

Sergeant Grumbles: Mrbogey: Obama enacted a plan similar to one Heritage pushed but most Republicans didn't support the minute he mentioned he supported it.

FTFY


If Republicans supported it, and the plan had been around since the 1990s... why didn't it get pushed when Republicans controlled Congress from the 1990s on?
 
2013-10-27 02:31:48 PM  

Mrbogey: Sergeant Grumbles: Mrbogey: Obama enacted a plan similar to one Heritage pushed but most Republicans didn't support the minute he mentioned he supported it.

FTFY

If Republicans supported it, and the plan had been around since the 1990s... why didn't it get pushed when Republicans controlled Congress from the 1990s on?


B/c the Republican party is incapable of governing, you snail skulled little rabbit.
 
2013-10-27 02:33:35 PM  

nmrsnr: Like Jesus, I take your page clicks upon myself, and suffer slideshows so you don't have to:

1. "You might want to avoid signing up right away."
2. "Yes, some workers are being required to use exchanges - but not these exchanges."
3. "Expect to be confused." (if you don't know how websites work)
4. "Don't bother asking our staff for recommendations."
5. "Blue states do it better."
6. "Abuse our honor system at your peril."
7. "You'll still pay for this, even if you don't use it." (i.e. how insurance works, plus subsidies)
8. "We're a magnet for hackers and con artists."
9. "You might not be able to keep your doctor." (if you choose a plan where your doctor is out of network, then your doctor will be... out of network)
10. "Competition is for the greater good - except when there aren't any competitors." (the free market is totally awesome, except where it isn't, then it's the government's fault)


So basically "Basic Conservative Media Talking Points 101"? Gotcha.

/research is HARD, how come I can't just lie back and let information fall into my brain??
//in your name, we give thanks
 
2013-10-27 02:33:39 PM  

DirkValentine: B/c the Republican party is incapable of governing, you snail skulled little rabbit.


The "wizard did it" of partisan Democrats.
 
2013-10-27 02:34:29 PM  

nmrsnr: 5. "Blue states do it better."


Stupid Obama. Making the states the went along with the program more efficient.
 
2013-10-27 02:35:33 PM  

Mrbogey: Sergeant Grumbles: Mrbogey: Obama enacted a plan similar to one Heritage pushed but most Republicans didn't support the minute he mentioned he supported it.

FTFY

If Republicans supported it, and the plan had been around since the 1990s... why didn't it get pushed when Republicans controlled Congress from the 1990s on?


Because they only came up with it as a counter to Hillary's healthcare proposal...they were working to quash any healthcare reform talk to placate the insurance lobby. And they did that. Why should they change the status quo when it benefits them?
 
2013-10-27 02:37:35 PM  

Mrbogey: If Republicans supported it, and the plan had been around since the 1990s... why didn't it get pushed when Republicans controlled Congress from the 1990s on?


The same reason they didn't push abortion restrictions.
 
2013-10-27 02:37:55 PM  

Mrbogey: DirkValentine: B/c the Republican party is incapable of governing, you snail skulled little rabbit.

The "wizard did it" of partisan Democrats.


You may want to call 911, you may be having a stroke.
 
2013-10-27 02:40:48 PM  
I am still laughing how democrats are giving each other hand jobs thinking they have provided healthcare for all. They could not even build a website.
 
2013-10-27 02:43:21 PM  
5. "Blue states do it better."

No shiat.
 
2013-10-27 02:48:41 PM  

pmdgrwr: I am still laughing how democrats are giving each other hand jobs thinking they have provided healthcare for all. They could not even build a website.


The problems with the federal website will get sorted out, people will start to realize that everyone having a little "skin in the game" is a good thing especially where risk pooling is concerned, and eventually the right will start claiming that it was their idea all along.
 
2013-10-27 02:52:33 PM  

MayoSlather: Therion: Is it HITLER SOCIALISM WORST CATASTROPHE IN HUMAN HISTORY EVER?

Close, Benghazi is worse though.


True, I believe that 1 Benghazi = 1.4 Hitlers x 2.3 Pol Pots + 3.7 Ted Bundies.
 
2013-10-27 02:53:48 PM  
I would be happy if people could overcome the following:

The bill is the affordable care act.  Calling it Obamacare is stupid. It is not an insurance provider. You cannot get "on obamacare". It is a set of laws creating things like insurance exchanges, a mandate to have some minimal form of insurance subject to a penalty, tax credits at various levels of poverty, etc.

It is not a goddamn health insurance provider, and certainly not a health care provider, and it damn sure isn't socialism.

The next person who says "Obamacare will cost me 500 more a year than blue cross/ blue shield" is going to get throat punched.
 
2013-10-27 02:54:10 PM  
Wow.

It's like a 12 year old was forced to write 10 things 'Obamacare' won't tell you for an assignment.
 
2013-10-27 02:56:18 PM  
Obamacare is one of the worst things in the history of the United States,
rackjite.com

Do you remember slavery?

media.philly.com
 
2013-10-27 02:56:42 PM  

JasonGriffee: Number 11: It's the T4 Program all over again.

http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/topic/714411/T4-Program


Your blog was stupid enough that I wasn't sure if this post was sarcasm or not.
 
2013-10-27 02:57:05 PM  

Smackledorfer: The next person who says "Obamacare will cost me 500 more a year than blue cross/ blue shield" is going to get throat punched.


A friend of mine once smoked five whole Obamacares and now he's a Libertarian.
 
2013-10-27 02:58:27 PM  

JasonGriffee: Number 11: It's the T4 Program all over again.

http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/topic/714411/T4-Program


What's sad, is that there are people that may actually believe this:  http://www.google.com/search?q=t4+program+obamacare
 
2013-10-27 02:59:39 PM  

pmdgrwr: I am still laughing how democrats are giving each other hand jobs thinking they have provided healthcare for all. They could not even build a website.


Obamacare isn't universal healthcare for all, and I don't know anyone who thinks it is.
 
2013-10-27 03:00:01 PM  
I guess this is as good a place as any to come clean:

Obamacare touched me at summer camp. For the longest time I thought it was my fault, but now I feel safe enough to blame Obama.
 
2013-10-27 03:01:30 PM  
 
2013-10-27 03:01:35 PM  

Snarcoleptic_Hoosier: nmrsnr: 5. "Blue states do it better."

Stupid Obama. Making the states the went along with the program more efficient.


I'm surprised Ohio is working along with this......they have their own website now for people to enroll in the (now expanded) Medicaid (that republicans tried to block the republican governor from doing) and it will be used for all government benefits in the future. Never thought Kasich would go against his party or his big donors. He must have seen his approval ratings and realized he didn't want to be a one term official...or he is aiming to be a one term... I haven't figured it out yet.

http://www.dispatch.com/content/stories/local/2013/10/27/will-states -o nline-medicaid-system-be-overwhelmed-too.html
 
2013-10-27 03:03:44 PM  

Hetfield: Before Obamacare, I was a beautiful healthy young woman. Today I'm nothing but a shadow of my former self. Watch out, America!

Love & kisses,

Terri Schiavo


Bwfore Obamacare, you were a corpse.

meh

SCOTUS
 
2013-10-27 03:06:50 PM  

Lionel Mandrake: 10 things Obamacare won't tell you

I don't expect Obamacare to tell me anything.  It's an abstraction incapable of speech.


anti-reification for the win!
 
2013-10-27 03:10:16 PM  

StopLurkListen: Obamacare is one of the worst things in the history of the United States,


Do you remember slavery?


"I've got to tell you. In my 20+ years of hostage negotiations, I have not met a hostage-taker this delusional."
 
2013-10-27 03:11:31 PM  

Mrbogey: If Republicans supported it, and the plan had been around since the 1990s... why didn't it get pushed when Republicans controlled Congress from the 1990s on?


1.bp.blogspot.com
 
2013-10-27 03:15:54 PM  

Smackledorfer: The bill is the affordable care act. Calling it Obamacare is stupid.


Obama calls it that.
 
2013-10-27 03:21:28 PM  

Mrbogey: Smackledorfer: The bill is the affordable care act. Calling it Obamacare is stupid.

Obama calls it that.


The term was coined by the right as a way to rally their base against the ACA. It was then picked up by the left since the provisions of the ACA are overwhelmingly supported by just about everyone (with the exception of the whole personal responsibility part). Expect the right to try rebranding it now that it's passed, been tested by the Supreme Court, and looks like it's going to be overwhelmingly popular once people realize that it is to their benefit.
 
2013-10-27 03:25:25 PM  

Mrbogey: Smackledorfer: The bill is the affordable care act. Calling it Obamacare is stupid.

Obama calls it that.


No, he doesn't.  "Also known as..." is drawing the common-use term to it, but he himself doesn't call it that.  Next time, try watching the video with the sound on.
 
2013-10-27 03:28:28 PM  
This is Obama's faked moon landing.
 
2013-10-27 03:42:01 PM  

LeoffDaGrate: Mrbogey: Smackledorfer: The bill is the affordable care act. Calling it Obamacare is stupid.

Obama calls it that.

No, he doesn't.  "Also known as..." is drawing the common-use term to it, but he himself doesn't call it that.  Next time, try watching the video with the sound on.


Christ, you people hate doing research...

Then on Friday, the White House urged supporters of the law to tweet why they backed it with the hashtag "#ilikeobamacare."

He's telling supporters to call it Obamacare. You're lying over something you don't even need to lie over.
 
2013-10-27 03:48:42 PM  

Smackledorfer: JasonGriffee: Number 11: It's the T4 Program all over again.

http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/topic/714411/T4-Program

Your blog was stupid enough that I wasn't sure if this post was sarcasm or not.


nickelni: JasonGriffee: Number 11: It's the T4 Program all over again.

http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/topic/714411/T4-Program

What's sad, is that there are people that may actually believe this:  http://www.google.com/search?q=t4+program+obamacare


What you fail to take into account is that through offering this, people will want more and more. This requires more and more income (i.e. Tax dollars). You can only tax so much before people realize that quitting their jobs and getting freebies (stop paying taxes), becomes the only way to survive. The tax base then bottoms out, you have un-repayable debt, and you have to start slashing the budget left and right before bankruptcy happens.

Just like in times past, the entitlements will be the first to go. Who do you think they will cut first? Most likely it will be the ones costing the most. While tragic, in the mists of chaos, national leaders will see it as the simplest solution.
 
2013-10-27 04:01:16 PM  
I can't listen to a single republican complaint about the ACA until they man the fark up and admit to their role in creating it.
 
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