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(Deadline)   So, Netflix and movie theater owners are now caught in a game of "No, you are"   (deadline.com) divider line 113
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2013-10-27 05:50:54 PM
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2013-10-27 06:16:19 PM

HempHead: Say you spend $200 million on a Pixar kids film. With no theater admissions, you will have to generate $600 million in TV rights, DVD, Netflix, cable etc. to make your money back.


So, your logic is "the Hollywood bigshots spent an assload to make this movie (mostly on hookers & blow for themselves), so we have no choice but to line up and pay up.

No need to give me more proof that you're a troll.

PS: Ask Art Buchwald how Hollywood really handles it's finances.
 
2013-10-27 06:28:20 PM
3D and IMAX aside, I don't see how ticket prices are much more than they were 10 years ago. Concession prices I don't pay attention to because I don't consider that a mandatory part of going to the movies. I know they have a lot more concessions than they used to. Popcorn, hot dogs, nachos, broiled chicken, lasagna, chocolate souffle, etc. That might be why people think it's so much more expensive to go to the movies.
 
2013-10-27 06:43:55 PM

Lackofname: Shiatty Hollywood remake treadmill + $20 for a popcorn and soda + down economy + home theater systems being cheaper = fewer ticket sales.


Yep. Netflix has the right of it. I'd spend the money to watch new releases on release day at home, via Netflix - money I don't spend at the theater because of all of the above, plus lousy customer service, rude customers, and the very real possibility of criminal activity (at least in my neighborhood.)

Producers, take note. It's time. Theater owners are holding you back. Netflix isn't - they will happily show any movie, shiatty or star-studded, and show it to a huge audience. If nothing else, it will force theater owners to bring back a real theater experience, instead of treating theaters like the steerage class area of the friggin' Titanic - theater owners can charge more, and in return bring back better seating, real food options, and other amenities that went the way of the dodo during the 80's thanks to the need for greed.
 
2013-10-27 07:06:01 PM
I go to the arclight in so. Cal. You can order booze before hand they have great popcorn and assigned seating. I can get there right as the movie starts and my seat is waiting for me.
 
2013-10-27 07:12:11 PM
Everyone in this thread sounds obsessed with the price of food at the theater. You know buying concessions isn't mandatory, right?

/this thread sounds fat
 
2013-10-27 07:30:41 PM

TV's Vinnie: HempHead: Say you spend $200 million on a Pixar kids film. With no theater admissions, you will have to generate $600 million in TV rights, DVD, Netflix, cable etc. to make your money back.

So, your logic is "the Hollywood bigshots spent an assload to make this movie (mostly on hookers & blow for themselves), so we have no choice but to line up and pay up.

No need to give me more proof that you're a troll.

PS: Ask Art Buchwald how Hollywood really handles it's finances.




I hate how 'troll' is now used to describe anyone that disagrees with your position.

Films normally have to make 3x's the negative cost to break even.

For simple example, a small $20 million film will need to make $60 million in box office to break even. 1/2 the box office is kept by the theater($30 million), $10 million is spent on advertising, $20 million making the film.

Art Buchwald is dead.
 
2013-10-27 07:39:40 PM

HempHead: Films normally have to make 3x's the negative cost to break even.

For simple example, a small $20 million film will need to make $60 million in box office to break even. 1/2 the box office is kept by the theater($30 million), $10 million is spent on advertising, $20 million making the film.


It's closer to 1.5 to 2x the budget. The theaters don't keep nearly half.
 
2013-10-27 09:02:21 PM

Mugato: HempHead: Films normally have to make 3x's the negative cost to break even.

For simple example, a small $20 million film will need to make $60 million in box office to break even. 1/2 the box office is kept by the theater($30 million), $10 million is spent on advertising, $20 million making the film.

It's closer to 1.5 to 2x the budget. The theaters don't keep nearly half.




Film rental varies depending on how much the film grosses, but 50% is very close for a small film.
 
2013-10-27 10:44:16 PM

enderthexenocide: things that would make me go to the theater more often:

1) no more goddamn television commercials.  movie previews, fine, that makes sense.  but i'm not paying money to sit and watch commercials for car dealerships and furniture stores.  that infuriates me that they show commercials now.


That does indeed suck.  I was unaware of this practice, but I've only been to a movie theater twice this century.  OTOH, it does help the theater owners out.  I don't mind ignoring a commercial or maybe even two, but anymore than that and I start to get angry.

2) give me something free related to the movie as an added gift.  like a sticker sheet or a bookmark or a free mp3 download of some song off the soundtrack.  just something to help justify my $10 ticket, something i can take home with me afterwards.  maybe a little brochure of behind-the-scenes info about the movie or something.  maybe a coupon for $2 off the price of the dvd when it comes out, that would be a nice little bonus.

What are you expecting?  Some cheap trinket?  That's not going to do it for me.  Unless I really like a movie, it's going to get tossed into a box of other stuff I don't give a shiat about.  I do have a nice magazine-type publication from when Return of the Jedi first hit theaters, but I had to pay for that.  I have no idea where it is.  I'll probably try to sell it on ebay if I ever find it.

3) if the movie is more than 2 hours long, please include a 10-minute intermission halfway through.  i know lots of people who can't go see movies like the hobbit in theaters because they are just too long and they can't sit for that longor they need a bathroom break.

I remember when some movies had intermissions.  Maybe if it's more than 2 1/2 hours they should have one, otherwise it's a waste of time,

4) have certain showings, maybe after 10pm, where people under the age of 21 are not allowed.  i hate going to see a movie and the theater is full of teenagers playing with their phones and talking the whole time.

Unfortunately, that is their largest audience so that's not going to happen.

5) make more movies i actually want to see in a theater.

That would be awesome.  I struggle to find movies I actually like.  Quite often they're just formulaic crap.  This is why I usually stay home instead of going to a theater.

They might try serving beer, but liquor licenses are expensive and much of their audience is too young anyway.  I know there are some theaters that serve alcohol, but not in my town and most of them do not.

Serving food might be a good idea too.  I don't mean popcorn and Milk Duds.  They could partner up with a fast food joint like Wendy's or KFC.  It seems like a win-win opportunity.

it really is a losing battle cinemas are facing.  70-80 years ago theaters were the best place to see the latest film.  TVs were small back then and not every household even had one.  Now a typical household has multiple large screens and a huge selection of things to watch.   We can pause the movie if we need to take a bathroom break or throw some popcorn in the microwave (for about 1/10th the cost of popcorn in a theater).

Our TVs may still be a bit smaller than a movie theater screen, but our sofas our much more comfortable than theater seats.  In many cases our sound systems are better than movie theaters or at least as good.

The last time I went to a theater was to see Phish when they did a simulcast of a concert in theaters all over the country.  That was interesting.  It was like going to a concert without actually being there.  I don't know why they didn't just do a pay-per-view thing where we could have gathered together in someone's home, I can't say, but it was kind of fun,  Needless to say a lot of pot was smoked in the theater that day and they probably didn't like that, but it was an innovative idea and the crowd was pretty peaceful and didn't cause any problems.
 
2013-10-27 11:09:37 PM

SauronWasFramed: And as a good capitalist that understands if I don't support my local theater, it will be closed and converted into a church


My town used to have one strip club and it is being converted into a church now so I really got a kick out of your post.  I obviously didn't go often enough.

Actually, I didn't go that often because it was a shiatty strip club and there will probably be better looking women at the church.

Not that I'll go to the church either, but the strip club was a shiathole.
 
2013-10-28 02:51:37 PM

HempHead: Mugato: HempHead: Target doesn't even sell DVDs any more.

Of course they do.

My local Target only sells Blu-Ray.


Is your local Target just a "Target" or is it a "Super Target"?
 
2013-10-28 04:26:51 PM

Mugato: Everyone in this thread sounds obsessed with the price of food at the theater. You know buying concessions isn't mandatory, right?

/this thread sounds fat


This thread sounds old. Along the same lines, the cost we should be concerned with is what our kids will pay such that they're in a moderately controlled environment and not home whining about how there's nothing to do in this town.
 
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