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(Justice Integrity Project)   Corruption-fighting blogger arrested and beaten in his home by Alabama deputies. Fark: For refusing to stop writing about a politically well-connected attorney. First Amendment? What First Amendment?   (justice-integrity.org) divider line 116
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2013-10-26 02:04:43 PM  
For refusing to stop writing about an alleged affair.

A corrupt affair?

If the alleged affair isn't actually happening... IANAL but I don't think that's protected speech.

As for the beating, I'd give 50/50 odds it was unwarranted police brutality vs resistance from prominent corruption fighting blogger who disobeys judges orders.
 
2013-10-26 02:07:56 PM  
I enjoy flying into Birmingham less than Moscow.

/headed there this afternoon
 
2013-10-26 02:18:25 PM  

T-Servo: I enjoy flying into Birmingham less than Moscow.

/headed there this afternoon


God help you if you're going into that hellhole with the bigoted leadership.

If not, enjoy Russia.
 
2013-10-26 02:27:00 PM  
America is a sham. Basically a lie.  Corruption is the norm with truth, justice and every other ideal being just that, ideals...more like fantasies, really.
 
2013-10-26 02:28:20 PM  
Things really have changed in Alabama. When did they start beating white people?
 
2013-10-26 02:30:39 PM  

JerkyMeat: America is a sham. Basically a lie.  Corruption is the norm with truth, justice and every other ideal being just that, ideals...more like fantasies, really.


Uh.. Its always been like that.
Some places are worse than others.
 
2013-10-26 02:34:06 PM  
"Official actions were fostered by Alabama Supreme Court Chief Justice Roy Moore."
 
2013-10-26 02:42:18 PM  

phaseolus: "Official actions were fostered by Alabama Supreme Court Chief Justice Roy Moore."


Oh, THAT asshole?
 
2013-10-26 02:50:07 PM  
it's easier than ever to drag crap like this out into the sunlight.

I feel a ray striking Birmingham even now.

/what a shiathole
 
2013-10-26 03:00:08 PM  

Doktor_Zhivago: JerkyMeat: America is a sham. Basically a lie.  Corruption is the norm with truth, justice and every other ideal being just that, ideals...more like fantasies, really.

Uh.. Its always been like that.
Some places are worse than others.


Bullshiat. Both of you. Corruption is a problem everywhere in America, but you do a disservice to the fight against it by pretending it's the norm. Calling our real corruption then tends to be overlooked as a boy who cried wolf thing.
 
2013-10-26 03:10:02 PM  

Three Crooked Squirrels: pretending it's the norm.


It is.  In every level of government in this country. Especially local government.  You ever been to the south?
 
2013-10-26 03:18:22 PM  

Doktor_Zhivago: Three Crooked Squirrels: pretending it's the norm.

It is.  In every level of government in this country. Especially local government.  You ever been to the south?


Lived for 8 years in Tennessee. Like I said, corruption is everywhere in America, but the vast majority of government workers are on the up and up. The vast majority of government actions are legitimate. This includes law enforcement. Corruption is a problem, but to state that corruption is the norm just isn't the case and does a disservice to attempts to root out corruption.
 
2013-10-26 03:44:12 PM  
Not saying that state government corruption isn't the real problem here, but from the article it looks like the guy violated a gag order during an ongoing civil case.

Also, "increasingly timid" is not the way I would describe the trajectory of our news media.  Vapid?  Sure.  Greedy?  Perhaps. Timidity is not their sin.
 
2013-10-26 04:37:53 PM  
Lots of small towns are like that. I have an aunt who was born in a small town in Alabama, and nearly the entire town is populated by members of one large family.
 
2013-10-26 04:48:06 PM  
The prominent investigative blogger Roger Shuler

Is he really prominent?  I don't know a thing about this guy that I can immediately recall.  Not that I'm suggesting this means he should be beaten.
 
2013-10-26 05:05:40 PM  
This will only improve when we stop staffing police departments with the lower end of the gene pool.
 
2013-10-26 05:17:25 PM  
I was going to say "Or, it's Rural Alabama and should be expected.", but then I did some googlin' and found out that Shelby Co, Alabama is one of the 100 richest places in the United States.
 
2013-10-26 05:24:02 PM  
Alabama

Ohhhh, I see.
 
2013-10-26 05:26:49 PM  

hardinparamedic: I was going to say "Or, it's Rural Alabama and should be expected.", but then I did some googlin' and found out that Shelby Co, Alabama is one of the 100 richest places in the United States.


Money burns just like everything else... at some point, they're gonna mess with the wrong person.
 
2013-10-26 05:27:17 PM  

edmo: This will only improve when we stop staffing police departments with the lower end of the gene pool.


Will never happen.  People with an IQ above 50 (pulling number out of thin air, but surely higher than the average pig) will sometimes exercise common sense.  This cannot be tolerated in a police state.
 
2013-10-26 05:28:22 PM  
Authorities in his county south of Birmingham held him on two contempt of court charges and one for resisting arrest. A judge refused to set bond on the contempt charges

Assuming the charges don't result from a refusal to testify, how often is it to not get bond for contempt of court?
 
2013-10-26 05:31:29 PM  

Karac: Authorities in his county south of Birmingham held him on two contempt of court charges and one for resisting arrest. A judge refused to set bond on the contempt charges

Assuming the charges don't result from a refusal to testify, how often is it to not get bond for contempt of court?


100% if you're not the right political stripe for the court.
 
2013-10-26 05:33:02 PM  
 
2013-10-26 05:35:17 PM  
I don't trust random blogs, however if this is true, I think this is a problem.

But usually the justice system works in these issues. The thing that's a problem is that you have to pay a lawyer just to prove you've been wronged.

Wish them all the constitutional rights ahead.
 
2013-10-26 05:38:07 PM  
Corruption-fighting blogger arrested for violating a legal gag order imposed by a judge and beaten in his home by Alabama deputies for resisting arrest. First Amendment violation? What First Amendment violation?

FTF Subby
 
2013-10-26 05:38:19 PM  

tallguywithglasseson: For refusing to stop writing about an alleged affair.

A corrupt affair?

If the alleged affair isn't actually happening... IANAL but I don't think that's protected speech.

As for the beating, I'd give 50/50 odds it was unwarranted police brutality vs resistance from prominent corruption fighting blogger who disobeys judges orders.


Unless he's knowingly making it up out of whole cloth out of spite, it absolutely is. Actual malice is required prove a libel case against the press, which he is for this purpose. And that's a civil action, not a criminal one- the police shouldn't be involved.
 
2013-10-26 05:41:28 PM  

FlashHarry: phaseolus: "Official actions were fostered by Alabama Supreme Court Chief Justice Roy Moore."

Oh, THAT asshole?


Is anybody surprised that he's not particularly familiar with the First Amendment?

I also seem to remember something about freedom of the press and prior restraints. I think it was a thing where the press had to sue to remove prior restraints, win, and let the government exhaust every appeal before publishing, but I'm not sure. Somebody check me on that?
 
2013-10-26 05:41:41 PM  

cptjeff: And that's a civil action, not a criminal one- the police shouldn't be involved.


blog.timesunion.com

What we HAVE HERE...is a FAILURE....to COMMUNICATE.
 
2013-10-26 05:42:42 PM  
All the people who fret about the NSA and Big Brother should focus on their local corrupt Barney Fife and clean up that shiat first.  Barney is much MUCH more likely to shoot your dog, tase you in the nads, sieze your assets and find that you have 'committed suicide' in your cell than any men in black suits.
 
2013-10-26 05:47:38 PM  

Doktor_Zhivago: Three Crooked Squirrels: pretending it's the norm.

It is.  In every level of government in this country. Especially local government.  You ever been to the south?


There isn't enough tinfoil to wrap this thread
 
2013-10-26 05:48:07 PM  

make me some tea: Lots of small towns are like that. I have an aunt who was born in a small town in Alabama, and nearly the entire town is populated by members of one large family.


So the family tree (singular) there resembles a tumbleweed?
 
2013-10-26 05:48:34 PM  

clowncar on fire: There isn't enough tinfoil to wrap this thread


Not really. The south has a proud tradition of good old boys in law enforcement being the muscle for their political machines.
 
2013-10-26 05:48:50 PM  
I was very sympathetic till it started getting into how Rove was behind it all. Then I started reading the page as if it were a conspiracy theory website.
 
2013-10-26 05:49:26 PM  

Fantasta Potamus: I don't trust random blogs, however if this is true, I think this is a problem.

But usually the justice system works in these issues. The thing that's a problem is that you have to pay a lawyer just to prove you've been wronged.

Wish them all the constitutional rights ahead.


Only if it's real justice, not Republican Justice™
 
2013-10-26 05:50:05 PM  

Mrbogey: I was very sympathetic till it started getting into how Rove was behind it all. Then I started reading the page as if it were a conspiracy theory website.


We're all well aware how divorced from reality you are.
 
2013-10-26 05:51:10 PM  

tallguywithglasseson: For refusing to stop writing about an alleged affair.

A corrupt affair?

If the alleged affair isn't actually happening... IANAL but I don't think that's protected speech.

As for the beating, I'd give 50/50 odds it was unwarranted police brutality vs resistance from prominent corruption fighting blogger who disobeys judges orders.


Writing about an alleged affair is protected speech.  If it isn't true the attorney should sue for libel.
 
2013-10-26 05:51:52 PM  
i.imgur.com


THIS IS AN OUTRAGE!

FIND THESE COPS ON FACEBOOK SO I CAN UNFRIEND THEM SO BAD!!!!
 
2013-10-26 05:53:34 PM  
justice integrity project you libs aren't serious are you
somebody imported their geocities page to a real big boy .org domain and thinks they're a journalist now
 
2013-10-26 05:55:39 PM  

falcon176: justice integrity project you libs aren't serious are you
somebody imported their geocities page to a real big boy .org domain and thinks they're a journalist now


WTF is this shiat?  Hold out just a little longer, you can get the help you desperately need.
 
2013-10-26 05:55:51 PM  

make me some tea: Lots of small towns are like that. I have an aunt who was born in a small town in Alabama, and nearly the entire town is populated by members of one large family.


Yeah, that only narrows it down to "every human settlement between Georgia and Mississippi."
 
2013-10-26 05:57:12 PM  

sugardave: Fantasta Potamus: I don't trust random blogs, however if this is true, I think this is a problem.

But usually the justice system works in these issues. The thing that's a problem is that you have to pay a lawyer just to prove you've been wronged.

Wish them all the constitutional rights ahead.

Only if it's real justice, not Republican Justice™


Sadly, it'll potentially require getting to the Federal level.

You'd think when a judge has made too many bad legal decisions in these areas, they'd be disbarred or removed.
 
2013-10-26 05:57:43 PM  
His blog:  http://legalschnauzer.blogspot.com/
http://legalschnauzer.blogspot.com/2013/10/liberty-duke-paid-heavy-p ri ce-in.html
http://legalschnauzer.blogspot.com/2013/07/rob-riley-had-affair-with -l obbyist.html

Docs up include lobbyist's divorce paper as well as alleged ≥$250K GOP state party funds for an abortion and hush money.
 
2013-10-26 06:00:03 PM  

clowncar on fire: Doktor_Zhivago: Three Crooked Squirrels: pretending it's the norm.

It is.  In every level of government in this country. Especially local government.  You ever been to the south?

There isn't enough tinfoil to wrap this thread


Tennessee is one of the most corrupt states in the nation. The current governer has been involved in multiple scandals involving his family's company and his time as mayor of Knoxville. There are busts of lesser offices all the time. The former sheriff of unicoi county just down the road was arrested on federal charges for abuses of office. Kingsport city officials are under investigation over preferential sewer water charges. Etc etc etc. But yeah. Politicians are all super honest and its a conspiracy derpaderpadoo
 
2013-10-26 06:00:23 PM  

Fantasta Potamus: You'd think when a judge has made too many bad legal decisions in these areas, they'd be disbarred or removed.


Elected judges FTW! You don't even need a legal degree, just gotta convince a few yokels that you'll listen to God, not those nine Washington types with their ivy league degrees and their fancy robes.
 
2013-10-26 06:01:36 PM  

Doktor_Zhivago: Three Crooked Squirrels: pretending it's the norm.

It is.  In every level of government in this country. Especially local government.  You ever been to the south?


Well then that makes it OK!
 
2013-10-26 06:02:30 PM  
Can't forget current and former congresmen takimg money and gifts from shady conservative Christian lobby groups and Pilot's de facto monopoly on diesel in the south east.
 
2013-10-26 06:03:29 PM  

Nobodyn0se: Corruption-fighting blogger arrested for violating a legal gag order imposed by a judge and beaten in his home by Alabama deputies for resisting arrest. First Amendment violation? What First Amendment violation?

FTF Subby


The court is still part of the government.  Gag orders that prevent someone from exercising their first amendment rights are still violations of the First Amendment just because its an order from a judge instead of a piece of legislation by the legislative branch.
 
2013-10-26 06:09:11 PM  

thamike: Not saying that state government corruption isn't the real problem here, but from the article it looks like the guy violated a gag order during an ongoing civil case.

Also, "increasingly timid" is not the way I would describe the trajectory of our news media.  Vapid?  Sure.  Greedy?  Perhaps. Timidity is not their sin.


Where "Smart" button??
 
2013-10-26 06:13:06 PM  

Warlordtrooper: Doktor_Zhivago: Three Crooked Squirrels: pretending it's the norm.

It is.  In every level of government in this country. Especially local government.  You ever been to the south?

Well then that makes it OK!


No I'm saying corruption im government is the norm not an exception
 
2013-10-26 06:16:03 PM  

Warlordtrooper: Nobodyn0se: Corruption-fighting blogger arrested for violating a legal gag order imposed by a judge and beaten in his home by Alabama deputies for resisting arrest. First Amendment violation? What First Amendment violation?

FTF Subby

The court is still part of the government.  Gag orders that prevent someone from exercising their first amendment rights are still violations of the First Amendment just because its an order from a judge instead of a piece of legislation by the legislative branch.


Is yelling fire in a crowded theater a violation of the first amendment?
 
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