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(BusinessWeek)   Remember how Kansas was going to cut taxes for the rich and every business in America would rush in and tax revenues would actually increase? Yeah, that didn't work. Shocking, right?   (businessweek.com) divider line 242
    More: Fail, Kansas, county manager, property taxes, sales taxes, septic tanks, income taxes, city managers, Sam Brownback  
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2013-10-26 01:19:26 PM  
In other news, if you're on the left side of the Laffer curve, lowering taxes lowers revenues.
 
2013-10-26 01:52:20 PM  

Ricardo Klement: In other news, if you're on the left side of the Laffer curve, lowering taxes lowers revenues.


In further news, the Laffer curve is bullsh*t.
 
2013-10-26 02:01:58 PM  
Maybe they should cut the rate to zero.  Or maybe give them subsidies.  That would create like a billion jobs.
 
2013-10-26 02:03:08 PM  
i254.photobucket.com
 
2013-10-26 02:11:17 PM  
I can hear the bootstraps from here.
 
2013-10-26 02:24:39 PM  
For that to work, you really need to be a state where rich people and big business want to move to.

/with prerequisite prepositional ending
 
2013-10-26 02:25:45 PM  
Brownbackistan Kansas... Making Somalia look well run since 2009
 
2013-10-26 02:45:19 PM  
I think it's pretty funny, watching the Joco nitwits come to the realization that their taxes actually pay for things. "Wait a minute. You mean, I'm paying for schools? You told me it was just welfare for illegal immigrants!"
 
2013-10-26 02:45:39 PM  
It's a conservative paradise!
 
2013-10-26 03:00:59 PM  
2.bp.blogspot.com
 
2013-10-26 03:09:48 PM  

i1089.photobucket.com


The TEA Toddlers to be precise.

 
2013-10-26 03:24:45 PM  
rung out??
 
2013-10-26 03:35:49 PM  
Has anyone in Kansas actually been to Kansas?
 
2013-10-26 03:57:55 PM  

Peter von Nostrand: Brownbackistan Kansas... Making Somalia look well run since 2009


Possibility of regime change.
 
2013-10-26 03:59:54 PM  
Maybe if they constitutionally outlaw all forms of taxes and fees, their budgets will magically balance!

/at zero.
/Bloody Kansas, pt II
 
2013-10-26 04:00:51 PM  
Obviously they just need to give it more time.
 
2013-10-26 04:01:09 PM  
Duuuuust in the wind

You're my boy blue

*sob*

Duuuuust in the wind
 
2013-10-26 04:02:10 PM  
This is just proof that taxes and regulations have not been cut enough. And why does Johnson county need to inspect rural septic tanks? Let the rural folk decide how much raw shiat should be on their property. I'm pretty sure that aquifers are just a liberal myth anyway. I mean, I've never seen one
 
2013-10-26 04:02:39 PM  

Wake Up Sheeple: Obviously they just need to give it more time TAX CUTS.


FIFY
 
2013-10-26 04:03:24 PM  
That's ok.  They'll just blame any bad effects on Obama.
 
2013-10-26 04:04:09 PM  

BSABSVR: This is just proof that taxes and regulations have not been cut enough. And why does Johnson county need to inspect rural septic tanks? Let the rural folk decide how much raw shiat should be on their property. I'm pretty sure that aquifers are just a liberal myth anyway. I mean, I've never seen one


That should not have made me laugh as much as it did.
 
2013-10-26 04:04:18 PM  
Kansas should try and save money by not investigating rapes of girls under 18.
 
2013-10-26 04:04:37 PM  
Yep, cutting taxes is the ticket. The problem here is that you didn't cut them enough. Time to double down, Kansas. I'm sure it will work this time.
 
2013-10-26 04:06:53 PM  
Did anyone mention tax cuts on business is not the same as tax cuts on the wealthy?
 
2013-10-26 04:06:56 PM  
If only the article actually said what the headline implied.
 
2013-10-26 04:09:07 PM  

Cataholic: If only the article actually said what the headline implied.


Thanks Ric Romero and welcome to Fark.

Your account is old, just pick it up on ebay or something?
 
2013-10-26 04:09:21 PM  
Kansas is just like Ohio and Canada

They aren't real places.
No one lives there.

It's all a conspiracy.
 
2013-10-26 04:09:38 PM  
"May have" caused increases in property taxes?  Mine was like 15% increase.  Screw the legislature and governor.
 
2013-10-26 04:11:39 PM  
I think one of the big reasons that businesses haven't flocked to Kansas is that it's also the "we're utterly terrified of lady parts, gays, Moozlims, brown people, and pretty much all science" thing.  Imagine being an executive considering a move to Kansas.  Now you have to factor in the cost of sending your kids to private school, because you don't want them brainwashed with that absurdity.

On top of this, it looks like states like Kansas will be heading for fiscal disaster because they just pretend that the costs of maintaining a state don't exist.  So you might move your business there, then catastrophe hits, and taxes skyrocket, workers flee, and now you're stuck.
 
2013-10-26 04:13:17 PM  

MurphyMurphy: Kansas is just like Ohio and Canada

They aren't real places.
No one lives there.

It's all a conspiracy.


I've heard of this "Kansas" once. Someone told me it's like the tornadoes of Oklahoma with the corn of Nebraska. How stupid.
 
2013-10-26 04:13:46 PM  
In Republican unskewed math, revenues approach infinity as taxes near zero.
 
2013-10-26 04:14:03 PM  
We should keep trying this.  It's got to work some time.  I just know it!
 
2013-10-26 04:14:17 PM  

2wolves: [i1089.photobucket.com image 500x281]
The TEA Toddlers to be precise.


Tea toddlers. I'm stealing that.
 
2013-10-26 04:16:36 PM  

cameroncrazy1984: Ricardo Klement: In other news, if you're on the left side of the Laffer curve, lowering taxes lowers revenues.

In further news, the Laffer curve is bullsh*t.


Why?

The Laffer curve asserts that zero tax rates result in zero revenue, and 100% tax rates result in zero revenue, and in between there is positive revenue. Can any of that be false?

Do you think that believing in the existence of the Laffer curve means supporting conservative policy or tax cuts?
 
2013-10-26 04:17:13 PM  

Ricardo Klement: In other news, if you're on the left side of the Laffer curve, lowering taxes lowers revenues.


In further news: taxes in Kansas could be in the negatives; you're still in farking Kansas.
 
2013-10-26 04:17:24 PM  
Unlike the Plutocratic Master Race in Ayn Rand novels who are benign, the rich are stingy, selfish sacks of sh*t who refuse to help pick up the slack left over by the lack of Government services. They don't donate to charity, and if anything, they're the worst "welfare queens" of all from the way they game the system to pay zero taxes and yet demand HUGE farm subsidies and other free handouts to corporations.

The rich won;t be happy until they have all the money (not most of the money or even 99.99% of the money. ALL of the money!) and the rest of us are living like Medieval peasants in huts made of dung, with no human rights whatsoever.
 
2013-10-26 04:19:13 PM  

Cataholic: If only the article actually said what the headline implied.


In a roundabout way, it did.

TFH: Remember how Kansas was going to cut taxes for the rich and every business in America would rush in and tax revenues would actually increase? Yeah, that didn't work. Shocking, right?
TFA:The changes have resulted in lower rates for most taxpayers, but also fewer dollars available for state government and state aid to local governments.

Fewer dollars dollars being available implies that revenues went down.
 
2013-10-26 04:21:47 PM  

itcamefromschenectady: cameroncrazy1984: Ricardo Klement: In other news, if you're on the left side of the Laffer curve, lowering taxes lowers revenues.

In further news, the Laffer curve is bullsh*t.

Why?

The Laffer curve asserts that zero tax rates result in zero revenue, and 100% tax rates result in zero revenue, and in between there is positive revenue. Can any of that be false?

Do you think that believing in the existence of the Laffer curve means supporting conservative policy or tax cuts?


It's untestable. There is no such real-world application.
 
2013-10-26 04:23:20 PM  
Hopefully when residents flee Kansas and other failed red states in droves for functioning states they won't bring with them their horseshiat theories and voting patterns.
 
2013-10-26 04:24:08 PM  

Fart_Machine: We should keep trying this.  It's got to work some time.  I just know it!


As long as liberals exist they will always taint the holy purity of the virgin mother free market and the blessings of the trickle down.

It doesn't mean we should stop giving all our money to the rich, that's what Jesus wants us to do.

I just feel sorry for the entitlement people thinking they can just inherit the Earth. They didn't build that and they didn't earn it. They are in for a big surprise I think when Jesus comes back.
 
2013-10-26 04:25:39 PM  

itcamefromschenectady: cameroncrazy1984: Ricardo Klement: In other news, if you're on the left side of the Laffer curve, lowering taxes lowers revenues.

In further news, the Laffer curve is bullsh*t.

Why?

The Laffer curve asserts that zero tax rates result in zero revenue, and 100% tax rates result in zero revenue, and in between there is positive revenue. Can any of that be false?

Do you think that believing in the existence of the Laffer curve means supporting conservative policy or tax cuts?


Government is not a business run for profit.
 
2013-10-26 04:25:43 PM  

itcamefromschenectady: cameroncrazy1984: Ricardo Klement: In other news, if you're on the left side of the Laffer curve, lowering taxes lowers revenues.

In further news, the Laffer curve is bullsh*t.

Why?

The Laffer curve asserts that zero tax rates result in zero revenue, and 100% tax rates result in zero revenue, and in between there is positive revenue. Can any of that be false?

Do you think that believing in the existence of the Laffer curve means supporting conservative policy or tax cuts?


The Laffer Curve, as espoused by conservatives such those setting Kansas tax policy, also suggests a simple parabolic function with those two zeroes at either end, and some maximal value at a single point in between (hotlinked from American Thinker in case thinks I'm merely spouting some liberal myth).
www.americanthinker.com

When in reality, it's more something like this:
gapersblock.com
 
2013-10-26 04:26:00 PM  
we're gonna need a bigger tax cut.
 
2013-10-26 04:26:34 PM  
These people voted for Brownback.

I say let them crash.

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2013-10-26 04:27:34 PM  

Hollie Maea: Hopefully when residents flee Kansas and other failed red states in droves for functioning states they won't bring with them their horseshiat theories and voting patterns.


Nope. When they flee, they will bring their boot straps, M1-A1 tanks (allowed under the 2nd ammendment) and Jesus. Then biatch about the liberals in their new states.
 
2013-10-26 04:27:43 PM  
When you fail to invest in your state, it falls apart and anyone capable of fleeing, will.

And then you're stuck going to other, better built, states and begging businesses there to relocate to your shiathole of a state because tax cuts.
 
2013-10-26 04:28:42 PM  

TV's Vinnie: Unlike the Plutocratic Master Race in Ayn Rand novels who are benign, the rich are stingy, selfish sacks of sh*t who refuse to help pick up the slack left over by the lack of Government services. They don't donate to charity, and if anything, they're the worst "welfare queens" of all from the way they game the system to pay zero taxes and yet demand HUGE farm subsidies and other free handouts to corporations.

The rich won;t be happy until they have all the money (not most of the money or even 99.99% of the money. ALL of the money!) and the rest of us are living like Medieval peasants in huts made of dung, with no human rights whatsoever.


This is humor.
I'm trying to laugh.
 
2013-10-26 04:30:53 PM  

itcamefromschenectady: cameroncrazy1984: Ricardo Klement: In other news, if you're on the left side of the Laffer curve, lowering taxes lowers revenues.

In further news, the Laffer curve is bullsh*t.

Why?

The Laffer curve asserts that zero tax rates result in zero revenue, and 100% tax rates result in zero revenue, and in between there is positive revenue. Can any of that be false?

Do you think that believing in the existence of the Laffer curve means supporting conservative policy or tax cuts?


www.improbable.com
 
2013-10-26 04:33:52 PM  
"Leaders of urban and rural local governments said Thursday that recent changes in the Kansas tax structure have put more pressure on towns and counties to maintain public services with property and sales taxes."

Looks like it's working exactly how the 1% intended...

blogs-images.forbes.com

Next up, Wisconsin!
 
2013-10-26 04:36:01 PM  

quatchi: These people voted for Brownback.

I say let them crash.

[counterpoint.jpg]


Agree.
 
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