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2013-10-26 10:00:13 AM
The beer before liquor one is true but it relies on psychology not chemistry.
 
2013-10-26 10:25:26 AM

Voiceofreason01: The beer before liquor one is true but it relies on psychology not chemistry.


I guess journalism majors don't get invited to the good parties
 
2013-10-26 12:39:45 PM
1. I don't think people thought it was specifically from beer as opposed to drinking too much of any other alchohol.
2. Men know this. Women refuse to believe it. Advantage: penis
3: This has been said a thousand times, yet people still will claim that THEY got some REAL stuff that you can't get around here.
4. It's not that it gets you drunker, it's that you drink more because you can't feel it as much  until you have too much and you are legitimately intoxicated.
5. That's just stupid.
 
2013-10-26 01:49:12 PM
Serious question... I don't know diddly about it but I always assumed there was something other than alcohol in absinthe. If it's just alcohol, why all the mystique, and isn't it illegal in some places or something?
 
2013-10-26 01:53:18 PM
Coffee, energy drinks, cocaine, whatever.  Will not help you pass a breathalyzer, but will help you feel a little bit more aware.
 
2013-10-26 01:53:40 PM
Anybody learn anything from that?

Come on, y'all, we're Farkers.  We Are professional grade.  These articles remind me of the f*cking gecko "everybody knows that" commercials.
 
2013-10-26 01:53:51 PM

Jument: Serious question... I don't know diddly about it but I always assumed there was something other than alcohol in absinthe. If it's just alcohol, why all the mystique, and isn't it illegal in some places or something?


For the same reason MJ is illegal.  Booga booga!
 
2013-10-26 01:54:03 PM

Jument: Serious question... I don't know diddly about it but I always assumed there was something other than alcohol in absinthe. If it's just alcohol, why all the mystique, and isn't it illegal in some places or something?


Wormwood--But it is legal to purchase.

It's the "moonshine" boogeyman in play here--it sounds scary, so ban it.
 
2013-10-26 01:54:07 PM

Jument: Serious question... I don't know diddly about it but I always assumed there was something other than alcohol in absinthe. If it's just alcohol, why all the mystique, and isn't it illegal in some places or something?


Some absinthe blends are poisonous due to additives.
 
2013-10-26 01:54:16 PM

Jument: Serious question... I don't know diddly about it but I always assumed there was something other than alcohol in absinthe. If it's just alcohol, why all the mystique, and isn't it illegal in some places or something?


The plant 'Artemisia absinthium' it's made with can be toxic and deadly to people. But i don't think they use much of it, if any at all, these days. Just throw some green food coloring in there and the kids will grab it up.
 
2013-10-26 01:55:22 PM
People get smashed off of caffeine-filled energy drinks not because the caffeine helps get them smashed, but the caffeine makes 'em not fall asleep or slow down the pace, even as the drinks frequently have 10% or higher ABV.

People drink 5 of these because the alcohol isn't acting like a depressant, and that's when they hang their ass off of a balcony and shiat in a plastic milk crate, angering the neighbors downstairs.
 
2013-10-26 01:55:46 PM

Jument: Serious question... I don't know diddly about it but I always assumed there was something other than alcohol in absinthe. If it's just alcohol, why all the mystique, and isn't it illegal in some places or something?


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Absinthe
 
2013-10-26 01:55:53 PM

J. Frank Parnell: Jument: Serious question... I don't know diddly about it but I always assumed there was something other than alcohol in absinthe. If it's just alcohol, why all the mystique, and isn't it illegal in some places or something?

The plant 'Artemisia absinthium' it's made with can be toxic and deadly to people. But i don't think they use much of it, if any at all, these days. Just throw some green food coloring in there and the kids will grab it up.


Well, and it's really strong and fun to drink.  Dip a spoonful of sugar in the glass, light on fire and stir.  Yay.
 
2013-10-26 01:56:16 PM
Except you won't feel like shiat if you skip the darker liquors like whisky and burbon. They have chemicals in them that make hipsters think they're culturally diverse and give everyone else a migraine.
 
2013-10-26 01:57:57 PM

Jument: Serious question... I don't know diddly about it but I always assumed there was something other than alcohol in absinthe. If it's just alcohol, why all the mystique, and isn't it illegal in some places or something?


There is a compound in absinthe called thujone that was thought to be the cause of the psychoactive effects of the drink. Modern science revealed the amount of thujone in absinthe is much lower that originally thought and there isn't enough present to cause the observed effect.
 
2013-10-26 02:00:15 PM

duffblue: Except you won't feel like shiat if you skip the darker liquors like whisky and burbon. They have chemicals in them that make hipsters think they're culturally diverse and give everyone else a migraine.


The guy who came up with Skyy Vodka did so for this very reason.
 
2013-10-26 02:01:38 PM

Jument: Serious question... I don't know diddly about it but I always assumed there was something other than alcohol in absinthe. If it's just alcohol, why all the mystique, and isn't it illegal in some places or something?


I've had European-made absinthe. A friend managed to bring it back from a trip. We did the ritual with sugar, etc.

It may be a projection, but it felt different than a usual alcohol buzz. No hallucinations, but it was a bit like the body buzz from an acid trip.

Or so I've heard.
 
2013-10-26 02:04:37 PM
TFA: Alcohol has a high sugar content, which means that drinking too much of it will cause weight gain. Period.

Sorry but that's just plain wrong. Alcohol (ethanol) is just a molecule and is definitely not a sugar. Alcohol has a high calorie content, which is why it causes weight gain. Alcohol also mucks with how your liver metabolizes fat, further adding to making you a fatty.
 
2013-10-26 02:05:34 PM

duffblue: Except you won't feel like shiat if you skip the darker liquors like whisky and burbon. They have chemicals in them that make hipsters think they're culturally diverse and give everyone else a migraine.


Ha, and what "chemicals" might those be?
 
2013-10-26 02:09:08 PM

Jument: Serious question... I don't know diddly about it but I always assumed there was something other than alcohol in absinthe. If it's just alcohol, why all the mystique, and isn't it illegal in some places or something?


Absinthe traditionally contains Thujone, which is a psychoactive chemical.  But it is usually present in such small quantities as to be negligible.  The real problem was that the stuff was like 19th century Everclear, in that it was usually bottled at anywhere between 50% - 70% ABV.  Absinthe drinkers weren't getting high, they were just drunk out of their minds.

So a lot of the bans were basically a combination of 'drug scare' (mind you, this was at a time when you could still by laudanum and cocaine laced aspirin over the counter) and it's popularity among "liberal bohemian europeans" like Van Gough and Toulouse Latrec et al.  It was illegal in the US until a few years ago, but easy enough to smuggle in.  It's an interesting drink, but not something I'd pay for again when there is good whisky around.
 
2013-10-26 02:09:58 PM
Want to avoid a hangover? Stay hydrated. It really IS that simple.

Also, you can drink enough to still be smashed the next morning. This is what I also deem a "solid strategy".
 
2013-10-26 02:10:46 PM

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: duffblue: Except you won't feel like shiat if you skip the darker liquors like whisky and burbon. They have chemicals in them that make hipsters think they're culturally diverse and give everyone else a migraine.

Ha, and what "chemicals" might those be?


You probably haven't heard of them.
 
2013-10-26 02:12:35 PM

duffblue: whisky and burbon. They have chemicals in them that make hipsters think they're culturally diverse and give everyone else a migraine.


'Whisky' AND 'burbon' make 'hipsters' feel culturally superior?

I love this post.  Well done, sir or madam.
 
2013-10-26 02:13:05 PM

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: duffblue: Except you won't feel like shiat if you skip the darker liquors like whisky and burbon. They have chemicals in them that make hipsters think they're culturally diverse and give everyone else a migraine.

Ha, and what "chemicals" might those be?


Congeners are a real thing. But they are more a product of poor distillation rather than being a light liquor vs a dark liquor. Crappy vodka will have more congeners than a quality bourbon or whiskey.
 
2013-10-26 02:13:22 PM
I mostly became aware of absinthe, I think, because an immortal in a Highlander episode loved the stuff.
 
2013-10-26 02:14:00 PM
Nothing new here.
 
2013-10-26 02:14:17 PM
We're relying on Faux News to debunk myths now?
 
2013-10-26 02:16:39 PM

MrHappyRotter: Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: duffblue: Except you won't feel like shiat if you skip the darker liquors like whisky and burbon. They have chemicals in them that make hipsters think they're culturally diverse and give everyone else a migraine.

Ha, and what "chemicals" might those be?

You probably haven't heard of them.


I like bourbon chemicals. Much more so than, say, gin chemicals or rum chemicals.
 
2013-10-26 02:18:02 PM

duffblue: Except you won't feel like shiat if you skip the darker liquors like whisky and burbon. They have chemicals in them that make hipsters think they're culturally diverse and give everyone else a migraine.


That's crap. They get their color from aging in wooden casks.

Ive sipped some clear moonshine that will give the worst hangover ever.
 
2013-10-26 02:27:52 PM
If you're a woman, the next time you try to go shot for shot with a bunch of your guy friends you should remember that you actually will get drunker faster than the men in the group.

www.avsforum.com

Trying to keep up with my guy friends doing shots would likely put me in a coma.

/lightweight
 
2013-10-26 02:29:18 PM
BigOle8point:

Ive sipped some clear moonshine that will give the worst hangover ever.

It's been scientifically proven that white wine causes the worst hangovers.

For me
 
2013-10-26 02:30:15 PM

BigOle8point: duffblue: Except you won't feel like shiat if you skip the darker liquors like whisky and burbon. They have chemicals in them that make hipsters think they're culturally diverse and give everyone else a migraine.

That's crap. They get their color from aging in wooden casks.

Ive sipped some clear moonshine that will give the worst hangover ever.


OK, try that as aged in charred oak barrels,  And depending on the moonshine, it is basically unaged bourbon.

That said, a lot of moonshine is a grain mash (mostly corn) hopped up with sugar.  Fermenting raw sugar does tend to up the hangover potential.
 
2013-10-26 02:31:27 PM
Calorie wise, alcoholic drinks are similar to soda.  I don't recommend knocking back 4 beers a day anymore than 4 sodas, if you don't want to become flabby.  The lowered inhibition also makes you more likely to eat food you normally wouldn't, adding to the calorie load.
 
2013-10-26 02:33:03 PM
Consume something with salts and fats, drink water throughout, keep the mixtures simple, avoid fakes, try for quality, and stick to one or two types of drinks. Part of these will help avoid the hangover directly by delaying intoxication and thereby delaying excessive consumption, part of these are to set you asleep feeling well, part of these help return back some of the things lost during heavy drinking, and part of these are to avoid some of the substances which have some relation to causing the actual effect the day after. People who get the worst hangovers, in my experience, are those who decide to try many different cocktails with a dozen ingredients, several of which are artificial syrups and premade mixes, without a word on brand and little before or between.
 
2013-10-26 02:36:37 PM

Oztemprom: BigOle8point: duffblue: Except you won't feel like shiat if you skip the darker liquors like whisky and burbon. They have chemicals in them that make hipsters think they're culturally diverse and give everyone else a migraine.

That's crap. They get their color from aging in wooden casks.

Ive sipped some clear moonshine that will give the worst hangover ever.

OK, try that as aged in charred oak barrels,  And depending on the moonshine, it is basically unaged bourbon.

That said, a lot of moonshine is a grain mash (mostly corn) hopped up with sugar.  Fermenting raw sugar does tend to up the hangover potential.


The stuff Ive had was made from apples and sugar. Triple distilled so it is nearly pure. God awful stuff.
 
2013-10-26 02:37:41 PM

TheDirtyNacho: Calorie wise, alcoholic drinks are similar to soda.  I don't recommend knocking back 4 beers a day anymore than 4 sodas, if you don't want to become flabby.  The lowered inhibition also makes you more likely to eat food you normally wouldn't, adding to the calorie load.


Like dirty nachos?
 
2013-10-26 02:42:51 PM
Davis Charles Bamforth is also an Anheuser-Busch-endowed professor of brewing science

Maybe if you use sources without a vested interest in the subject, it might come off as more believable...

Oh, you're from Faux News - never mind.
 
2013-10-26 02:46:37 PM

trippdogg: Oh, you're from Faux News - never mind.


The article is not, merely half has been relinked via Faux News, and is instead developed by The Daily Meal. However, in this instance, he is also correct about the primary source of calories being the alcohol, which between any alcoholic beverage will differ exceedingly little in the amount of calories per unit of alcohol.
 
2013-10-26 02:57:36 PM
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I've slapped that guy and it's full of beer...
 
2013-10-26 02:58:30 PM

jaylectricity: I don't think people thought it was specifically from beer as opposed to drinking too much of any other alchohol.


Not exactly true.  Generally speaking, beer has a much higher calorie to alcohol ratio than just about any other type of alcohol.  Not to mention carbohydrates.  So whether you're looking for a slight buzz or looking to get obliterated you'll at least do your waistline more favors by drinking liquor (assuming you don't mix with farktons of sugar obviously).  Cutting back significantly on beer has helped me lean out a little.
 
2013-10-26 03:12:22 PM
Hey Fox News, thanks for clearing that up!

I'm getting hammered tonight.
 
2013-10-26 03:20:12 PM
Reading this with a headache at 3pm... yeaah, getting a kick out of it. Never going out on a Friday again.

But I'd like to test that one wives tale about height which I hadn't heard of before... anyone know a girl who's 6'3"?
 
2013-10-26 03:23:58 PM

CognaciousThunk: Reading this with a headache at 3pm... yeaah, getting a kick out of it. Never going out on a Friday again.

But I'd like to test that one wives tale about height which I hadn't heard of before... anyone know a girl who's 6'3"?


Dated one in college for a while. She was taller than many of the guys I hung out with and would inevitably try to keep up with the boozing. Poor decision, it didn't end well for her.
 
2013-10-26 03:26:57 PM
Professor of food science and technology at the University of California, Davis Charles Bamforth is also an Anheuser-Busch-endowed professor of brewing science and he told Popular Science, "The beer belly is a complete myth. The main source of calories in any alcoholic beverage is alcohol...There's nothing magical about the alcohol in beer, it's just alcohol." Alcohol has a high sugar content, which means that drinking too much of it will cause weight gain. Period. But if you're seeing some extra girth around your midsection it can't necessarily be blamed on the few extra beers you threw back on Saturday night - it very well might have been the martini last night, or the glass of wine on Friday. There is no longer a need to single out your poor beer as the cause of alcohol-induced weight gain.

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA H AHAHAHHA!

Obvious shill is obvious.
 
2013-10-26 03:31:29 PM
Or, because you don't exercise, your guts are simply trying to fall out of your skin.
 
2013-10-26 03:37:12 PM
Another "article" that is in print somewhere in the English-speaking world at any moment. Thanks for the infromation, Fox
 
2013-10-26 03:39:33 PM

ElLoco: Jument: Serious question... I don't know diddly about it but I always assumed there was something other than alcohol in absinthe. If it's just alcohol, why all the mystique, and isn't it illegal in some places or something?

Some absinthe blends are poisonous due to additives.


Technically all blends of alcohol are poisonous.
 
2013-10-26 03:53:23 PM
Yes beer can give a guy a beer belly.  Estrogens make man tummy fat.  From the NIH web site.

Alcoholic beverages contain not only alcohol but also numerous other substances (i.e., con-
geners) that may contribute to the beverages
'
physiological effects. Plants used to produce
alcoholic beverages contain estrogenlike substances (i.e., phytoestrogens). Observations that
men with alcoholic cirrhosis often show testicular failure and symptoms of feminization have
suggested that alcoholic beverages may contain biologically active phytoestrogens as con-
geners. Biochemical analyses have identified several phytoestrogens in the congeners of
bourbon, beer, and wine. Studies using subjects who produced no estrogen themselves (i.e.,
rats whose ovaries had been removed and postmenopausal women) demonstrated that phyto-
estrogens in alcoholic beverage congeners exerted estrogenlike effects in both animals and
humans. Those effects were observed even at moderate drinking levels.
 
2013-10-26 03:53:48 PM
Even though I'm a Pope, I'm not particularly superstitious. Yet, the worst things I've ever done when smashed were influenced by dark spirits. Whiskey brings my devil horns out more than anything. My rule is: "If it's brown, turn it down. If it's clear, never fear."
 
2013-10-26 04:20:09 PM
I have to disagree with their beer belly verdict. I stopped drinking beer and switched to a shot of bourbon with a diet coke chaser and lost almost 40 pounds in about 5 months.

/I love craft beers
 
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