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2013-10-26 09:40:38 AM
Click the funny or smart button if you think I require some attention and validation as a human being today.
 
2013-10-26 10:01:24 AM

INSANE DEMENTED APATHETIC BOLDBOLDBOLD

 
2013-10-26 10:05:26 AM

MayoSlather: Click the funny or smart button if you think I require some attention and validation as a human being today.


If this post gets 20 smarts or funnys, I'll keep the baby!
 
2013-10-26 10:05:52 AM
Seekrit muslin my eye!!!  Everyone knows that Kenyan usurper is a hoodie wearing Illuminati controlled athiest!!
 
2013-10-26 10:07:45 AM
In other words,

art.penny-arcade.com
 
2013-10-26 10:10:40 AM
That lady really likes killing dogs.
 
2013-10-26 10:12:50 AM
The irony is delicious when someone with a name like "GozerBreath73" in this kind of forum complains because someone else openly listed as "Anonymous" posts.

/And no, I don't
 
2013-10-26 10:16:44 AM

Doc Daneeka: In other words,

[art.penny-arcade.com image 800x407]


"Online disinhibition effect" just does not have the same punch.
 
2013-10-26 10:19:04 AM
We only see the clitoris we want to see.
 
2013-10-26 10:20:44 AM
One man's incivility is another man's righteous indignation.
 
2013-10-26 10:22:02 AM
As a person whose name really is Prey4reign I'm getting a real kick out of this thread.
 
2013-10-26 10:24:44 AM
Iran and China have already figured this out.
 
2013-10-26 10:24:57 AM
Will we see more Popular Science articles as Fark takes up the slack?
 
2013-10-26 10:27:53 AM
You know, aside from the clever snark, one of the things I appreciate about this place is how the community deals with trolls.

Mockery is a powerful tool.

/Seriously
//Social moderation at its best
 
2013-10-26 10:28:21 AM
Laugh about my name all you want.  I'd backtrack your IP and make you say it to my face if I didn't have to be at the gym in 26 minutes.
 
2013-10-26 10:28:39 AM
"a phenomenon that the psychologist John Suler memorably termed the "online disinhibition effect." "

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15257832 --July, 2004


"John Gabriel's GIF Theory" --March, 2004

A masterwork of trolling, Ms. Konnikova. 7.89/10. The Guild will send your letter in the morning.
 
2013-10-26 10:46:41 AM
My time on WOW taught me that there is more than 1 type of anonymity. Players who made names that fit with role-playing were less likely to be total jackasses than those who's name were something like "Ikillyou". Here on Fark I've seen a similar effect. You can tell by the username whether someone is more likely to post in Caterday threads, science threads, or political threads.
 
2013-10-26 10:48:08 AM

MarkEC: My time on WOW taught me that there is more than 1 type of anonymity. Players who made names that fit with role-playing were less likely to be total jackasses than those who's name were something like "Ikillyou". Here on Fark I've seen a similar effect. You can tell by the username whether someone is more likely to post in Caterday threads, science threads, or political threads.


Shut up noob! Also string of slurs that would get me banned!
 
2013-10-26 10:49:09 AM
I try to keep my posts light-hearted, not too snarky, and with limited sexual innuendo. Farkettes are really only allowed to be awesome, biatches, or attention whores.
 
2013-10-26 10:56:01 AM
Wow. All I can say is if they're getting rid of comments on Popular Science basically because most of them are stupid and counterproductive, they have never read the comments sections at Yahoo or YouTube. Or maybe they have?

/Not the comments on Fark, though. Those are awesome.
 
2013-10-26 11:00:06 AM

Anne.Uumellmahaye: I try to keep my posts light-hearted, not too snarky, and with limited sexual innuendo. Farkettes are really only allowed to be awesome, biatches, or attention whores.


You left out "in the kitchen'.
 
2013-10-26 11:03:23 AM

MarkEC: My time on WOW taught me that there is more than 1 type of anonymity. Players who made names that fit with role-playing were less likely to be total jackasses than those who's name were something like "Ikillyou". Here on Fark I've seen a similar effect. You can tell by the username whether someone is more likely to post in Caterday threads, science threads, or political threads.


I'd like to add on to this that there is a high likelihood (based on my experience) that if a player has demon, hell, dark, or some other reference to hell in their name they are a 14-16 year old boy.  This also tends to be true if they have a name based on a anime currently running on adult swim.
 
2013-10-26 11:07:08 AM

Gergesa: MarkEC: My time on WOW taught me that there is more than 1 type of anonymity. Players who made names that fit with role-playing were less likely to be total jackasses than those who's name were something like "Ikillyou". Here on Fark I've seen a similar effect. You can tell by the username whether someone is more likely to post in Caterday threads, science threads, or political threads.

I'd like to add on to this that there is a high likelihood (based on my experience) that if a player has demon, hell, dark, or some other reference to hell in their name they are a 14-16 year old boy.  This also tends to be true if they have a name based on a anime currently running on adult swim.


My 'favorites' were the ones that had xXnameXx. They were invariably the ones that were jumping around like squirrels on meth, and seemed to all be pvp-ers.
 
2013-10-26 11:10:28 AM
LAUGHTER OL who would post as the individual upon which the not being known by the real name would be that upon which has desire?

/the surname of me is SãÏdthě'døg.
//engaging in the troll is the learned behaviour
 
2013-10-26 11:14:29 AM

meow said the dog: LAUGHTER OL who would post as the individual upon which the not being known by the real name would be that upon which has desire?

/the surname of me is SãÏdthě'døg.
//engaging in the troll is the learned behaviour


Love it.
 
2013-10-26 11:16:22 AM

meow said the dog: LAUGHTER OL who would post as the individual upon which the not being known by the real name would be that upon which has desire?

/the surname of me is SãÏdthě'døg.
//engaging in the troll is the learned behaviour


You are the exception to the rule when it comes to what threads you post in. I think the world would be a better place if you made the captions on animal pics in Caterday threads.
 
2013-10-26 11:18:04 AM

Needlessly Complicated: /Not the comments on Fark, though. Those are awesome.


I get frustrated reading comments here sometimes.  But then I go read them pretty much anywhere else on the internet, and I come running back.  Even just basic, understandable sentence construction is a challenge to find.  Correct punctuation is a rare gift.  And that's before you actually get to the content of the posts.  My god, some of the stupid things people say.  I wonder how they even manage to feed themselves at that level of stupidity, let alone hold down a job.
 
2013-10-26 11:19:02 AM
As someone who actually is on medication, I'm getting a real kick out of this thread.
 
2013-10-26 11:19:08 AM

Gergesa: Seekrit muslin my eye!!!  Everyone knows that Kenyan usurper is a hoodie wearing Illuminati controlled athiest!!


Hey, I've been trying this, But I can never get my illuminati controlled atheist to sit straight.


/hoodie
/Kenyan usurper is Best usurper.
 
2013-10-26 11:32:44 AM

MayoSlather: Click the funny or smart button if you think I require some attention and validation as a human being today.


Done
 
2013-10-26 11:33:49 AM
At least some way to out the Fox and other corporate shills would be helpful.

I have found more and more sites only allowing comments from Facebook accounts, but even those turn nasty quickly. I wonder if there is an algorithm to determine how long it takes a comments thread to turn completely nasty, or responses to a given comment. It seems like 4 comments is the max.

I'm training myself to never read the comments on news sites. It is interesting how often I come to Fark and Reddit comments to learn more about a topic though. There is a lot of valuable expertise to be found in some comments sections.
 
2013-10-26 11:44:47 AM

Doc Daneeka: In other words,

[art.penny-arcade.com image 800x407]


Actually, the article suggests that the image is doing nothing more than stating the obvious as human interaction, online or otherwise, is relatively consistent.
 
2013-10-26 11:47:50 AM

Cuchulane: I have found more and more sites only allowing comments from Facebook accounts


And therefore, I don't post on those sites, because I will rejoin FB only after the earth has been swallowed by the expanding Sun and burned to a cinder.

I still read those comments. I find it heartening to see brazen stupidity linked to a person's actual identity (if they've adhered to the FB TOS, of course).

/When King Kong ain't a monkey
//And James Brown ain't funky
///I'll take you back
 
2013-10-26 11:53:55 AM

MarkEC: My time on WOW taught me that there is more than 1 type of anonymity. Players who made names that fit with role-playing were less likely to be total jackasses than those who's name were something like "Ikillyou". Here on Fark I've seen a similar effect. You can tell by the username whether someone is more likely to post in Caterday threads, science threads, or political threads.


I just debunk the poo
 
2013-10-26 12:04:07 PM
Commenting online is for idiots.
 
2013-10-26 12:05:04 PM
See - this is why I became a Farker.  It's a safe shelter from that storm.  Comments posted here are always relatively kind, wise and understanding, in comparison.

/jumps to Sports Tab to see if the always compassionate college football thread is up and running, yet
 
2013-10-26 12:06:51 PM

Gergesa: MarkEC: My time on WOW taught me that there is more than 1 type of anonymity. Players who made names that fit with role-playing were less likely to be total jackasses than those who's name were something like "Ikillyou". Here on Fark I've seen a similar effect. You can tell by the username whether someone is more likely to post in Caterday threads, science threads, or political threads.

I'd like to add on to this that there is a high likelihood (based on my experience) that if a player has demon, hell, dark, or some other reference to hell in their name they are a 14-16 year old boy.  This also tends to be true if they have a name based on a anime currently running on adult swim.


And if they have references to "logic", "reason", or "rational" in their handle, those things will not be present in their posts.
 
2013-10-26 12:08:02 PM

SoupJohnB: See - this is why I became a Farker.  It's a safe shelter from that storm.  Comments posted here are always relatively kind, wise and understanding, in comparison.

/jumps to Sports Tab to see if the always compassionate college football thread is up and running, yet


Ever been to the Politics tab lately?
 
2013-10-26 12:10:20 PM

MayoSlather: Click the funny or smart button if you think I require some attention and validation as a human being today.


I think you've hit the nail on the head.  I believe that rational people on the internet generally turn up the crazy to stand out in a sea of noise.

/In this section I post a slashies comment so that my post stands out
 
2013-10-26 12:12:08 PM

PanicMan: Needlessly Complicated: /Not the comments on Fark, though. Those are awesome.

I get frustrated reading comments here sometimes.  But then I go read them pretty much anywhere else on the internet, and I come running back.  Even just basic, understandable sentence construction is a challenge to find.  Correct punctuation is a rare gift.  And that's before you actually get to the content of the posts.  My god, some of the stupid things people say.  I wonder how they even manage to feed themselves at that level of stupidity, let alone hold down a job.



A thousand times this.  I sometimes get flustered at some of the comments I see on here.  But even the worst comments here are pretty damn tolerable when compared to comments I see elsewhere, and I try to keep that in mind when I'm reading comments on Fark.  You don't lie, I also wonder how these people hold down jobs and function in life with the amount of utter idiocy they display.


PS, You're all a bunch of dicks!  Anonymity, hah!
 
2013-10-26 12:23:54 PM

Cuchulane: At least some way to out the Fox and other corporate shills would be helpful.

I have found more and more sites only allowing comments from Facebook accounts, but even those turn nasty quickly. I wonder if there is an algorithm to determine how long it takes a comments thread to turn completely nasty, or responses to a given comment. It seems like 4 comments is the max.

I'm training myself to never read the comments on news sites. It is interesting how often I come to Fark and Reddit comments to learn more about a topic though. There is a lot of valuable expertise to be found in some comments sections.


I don't do reddit but you are right, there is usually someone in the comments here who has more insight to the article, sometimes even in the politics tab. Even on facebook people get all bent out of shape and dial up the derp when it comes to politics.
 
2013-10-26 12:24:26 PM
"The process of voting a comment up or down, users can set the tone of the comments, creating a surprisingly civil result."

It also has the effect of stiffing unpopular opinions too. That's why I like Fark over sites like Reddit, you get to see everything posted in-line whether it's good or bad.
 
2013-10-26 12:47:59 PM

LoneCraneFullMoon: A thousand times this. I sometimes get flustered at some of the comments I see on here. But even the worst comments here are pretty damn tolerable when compared to comments I see elsewhere, and I try to keep that in mind when I'm reading comments on Fark. You don't lie, I also wonder how these people hold down jobs and function in life with the amount of utter idiocy they display.


I don't find Fark idiotic often. Misogynistic, volatile, stupid sometimes--but a lot of the people here are pretty damn smart. If I wanted to talk to stupid people, I could go anywhere in my random life and find lots of them. Or go to yahoo news or somewhere and find more of them. I don't, so I hang out here. Then I put all the idiots who are just looking for a fight on ignore (the greatest feature Fark ever introduced), and sometimes I find out lots of things.

It's just like real life--you have to know when to filter the "my willful ignorance is just as good as your knowledge" people, or you'll just find yourself pissed off a lot for no good reason.  I'm not here to fight. At least, not on most days.
 
2013-10-26 12:48:19 PM
Jesus, this thread really brought out all the Fark cheerleaders, do you guys get some sort of twisted satisfaction for being rational, appreciative and nice?
 
2013-10-26 01:15:08 PM
"Plays well with others."
 
2013-10-26 01:24:09 PM

offmymeds: SoupJohnB: See - this is why I became a Farker.  It's a safe shelter from that storm.  Comments posted here are always relatively kind, wise and understanding, in comparison.

/jumps to Sports Tab to see if the always compassionate college football thread is up and running, yet

Ever been to the Politics tab lately?


Well, no.  I've always heard that one does not just *walk* into the Politics tab.

/there be dragons
 
2013-10-26 01:26:49 PM
You'll never live down that 9/11 bullshiat, popular mechanics. Lost the respect of many intelligent people.
 
2013-10-26 01:28:14 PM

Cuchulane: At least some way to out the Fox and other corporate shills would be helpful.

I have found more and more sites only allowing comments from Facebook accounts, but even those turn nasty quickly. I wonder if there is an algorithm to determine how long it takes a comments thread to turn completely nasty, or responses to a given comment. It seems like 4 comments is the max.

I'm training myself to never read the comments on news sites. It is interesting how often I come to Fark and Reddit comments to learn more about a topic though. There is a lot of valuable expertise to be found in some comments sections.


Sid Meier's Civ series and Fark actually did wonders for my education/trivial pursuit wins.

Also years of online porn thumbnails (pre-internet BBS even) has given me an amazing memory for faces.

Yay intertubes!
 
2013-10-26 01:50:56 PM
Fark isn't quite like the comment section of a major publication.  You tend to see a lot of the same names drif in and out of the comments here.  So while our real names are kept private, our user names become a sort of 'brand' or identity.  If I see a rambling comment that degenerates into something bizarre, and then I see that PocketNinja wrote it, I know it's probably a sarcastic joke.  And not actual serious derp.

One of the things the article touches on though, and what worries me about any online community (Fark included) is what I cal the 'echo chamber' effect.  We can all see it, people of like political/ religious/ social views come to dominate the conversation, the groupthink builds but only within that community.  So, for example, here on Fark anyone who is opposed to say, gay marriage, is pretty quickly labeled a useless bigot and sidelined.  That particular debate is considered settled in this community, even though it's not actually something there is a national consensus on- yet. Similarly, people who do nothing but hang out on say, 'Christian' forums never have to debate challenges to things like Creationism.  They all pat each other on the back and feel sorry for the godless heathens who think evolution might make some sense.

TL;DR version-   It's intellectually dangerous to only talk to like-minded people, but very easy to do so on the inter webs.
 
2013-10-26 02:04:11 PM

SwiftFox: The irony is delicious when someone with a name like "GozerBreath73" in this kind of forum complains because someone else openly listed as "Anonymous" posts.

/And no, I don't


You should shub.
 
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