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(MSN)   Are you ready for the Tennessee whiskey war?   (money.msn.com) divider line 112
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2013-10-26 05:24:47 AM  

unamused: I quit drinking Jack back when they started watering it down.


I quit when consuming it when they dropped the proof the first time,  Then they went to 80 and it tastes like bad candy.  I now drink Beam Black when at concerts.
 
2013-10-26 05:47:18 AM  

ladyfortuna: HotWingAgenda: Bulleit small batch rye.  Thank me later.

One of these days I need to try rye. I don't think I know a single person who drinks it, but (saying this without research) assuming it's the same initial ingredient I keep finding beer made from, I might like it...

/ponder


There are lots of small batch ryes out there - it's displaced bourbon as my brown drink of choice.  Along with the Bulleit, try High West Double Rye or Jefferson Rye ...
 
2013-10-26 06:27:54 AM  

InternetSecurityGuard: Our dog was named Whiskey when we adopted him. My wife and son didn't care for that so they started calling him Scruffy. Since he is a mixed breed terrier and was once named Whiskey, I tell people that he is a Jack Daniel's Terrier.



Mister Aloysius Scruffalupagus

/big name, little dog


Approves
 
2013-10-26 06:34:55 AM  
Sorry, I just can't enjoy college football unless the air is heavy with the essence of Jack Daniel's (mixed with watery-ice-melted, Coca-Cola served in the shadow of Coke HQ). Any thing else is a compromise by the extremes of failure or success
 
2013-10-26 07:17:33 AM  

nucal: ladyfortuna: HotWingAgenda: Bulleit small batch rye.  Thank me later.

One of these days I need to try rye. I don't think I know a single person who drinks it, but (saying this without research) assuming it's the same initial ingredient I keep finding beer made from, I might like it...

/ponder

There are lots of small batch ryes out there - it's displaced bourbon as my brown drink of choice.  Along with the Bulleit, try High West Double Rye or Jefferson Rye ...


George Dickel rye is pretty great, I think you'd be hard pressed to beat it at its price - around $25 a bottle in these parts (Jefferson is $40). It's LDI whiskey, like High West (which we don't get here).
 
2013-10-26 07:33:01 AM  
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2013-10-26 08:05:14 AM  
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2013-10-26 08:22:13 AM  

dudemanbro: cptjeff: Jack is real Bourbon.

No it is not. It's from Tennessee. Are you trying to get kicked off of Fark? :)


You gentlemen need to refamiliarize yourselves with the relevant regulations. Bourbon need not be made in Kentucky; it can be made anywhere in the United States. However, it can only be made in Kentucky if it wants to be marketed as Kentucky bourbon.

Other bourbon rules include: mash bill of >50% corn, and aged in new white oak barrels (none of this "port" or "sherry" barrel aging you see with scotch) for a minimum of two years. Jack Daniels is not a bourbon because they filter the product through maple charcoal, which violates the regulation.

/Sipping on an Eagle Rare 10-year, neat.
//Why yes it is 8:20am. Why do you ask?
 
2013-10-26 08:52:39 AM  

blockhouse: dudemanbro: cptjeff: Jack is real Bourbon.

No it is not. It's from Tennessee. Are you trying to get kicked off of Fark? :)

You gentlemen need to refamiliarize yourselves with the relevant regulations. Bourbon need not be made in Kentucky; it can be made anywhere in the United States. However, it can only be made in Kentucky if it wants to be marketed offered for sale as Kentucky bourbon.

Other bourbon rules include: mash bill of >50% corn, and aged in new white oak barrels (none of this "port" or "sherry" barrel aging you see with scotch) for a minimum of two years. Jack Daniels is not a bourbon because they filter the product through maple charcoal, which violates the regulation.

/Sipping on an Eagle Rare 10-year, neat.
//Why yes it is 8:20am. Why do you ask?




FTFY.

Product, price, place, and promotion.
 
2013-10-26 08:54:51 AM  

blockhouse: /Sipping on an Eagle Rare 10-year, neat.
//Why yes it is 8:20am. Why do you ask?


I admire your commitment.  The liver is an evil beast and must be put down.
 
2013-10-26 08:57:35 AM  

Lsherm: MrBallou: If they used a round bottle, they'd be open to similar complaints from dozens of other whiskey brands.

Jack Daniels is swill only fit for mixing. George Dickel is the one you want for sipping.

fark that Mash shiat, drink real bourbon.


Preach it, brother.

That, and I don't think anyone is going to confuse whatever is in that bottle with corn squeezing's run off Popcorn's still.

I just hope whatever the family got for the license on his name was worth it.
 
2013-10-26 09:11:02 AM  
jack daniels is nasty stuff.

/sorry, frank.
 
2013-10-26 09:17:08 AM  
Popcorn says f*ck you.
 
2013-10-26 09:19:41 AM  

part of the problem: Lsherm: MrBallou: If they used a round bottle, they'd be open to similar complaints from dozens of other whiskey brands.

Jack Daniels is swill only fit for mixing. George Dickel is the one you want for sipping.

fark that Mash shiat, drink real bourbon.

Preach it, brother.


Preach. On.  George Dickel is the stuff.  When I see someone drinking Jack Daniel's, that tells me they drink what they're told is popular, not the best.  Sheep begging to be sheared.
 
2013-10-26 09:23:31 AM  
If I remember right, Popcorn had terminal lung cancer at the time of his sentencing. Asked the judge for leniency and it was not granted. I admire Popcorn's decision.
 
2013-10-26 09:31:21 AM  

Slappajo: Popcorn says f*ck you.


Having sampled more than my share of Popcorn's liquor, I can safely assert there is no way anything I would buy from a store would taste anywhere near as good (regardless of the shape of bottle or color of label).

RIP Popcorn.
 
2013-10-26 09:56:51 AM  
cdn.history.com

Frowns on their shenanigans. Rank amateurs.
 
2013-10-26 09:59:51 AM  

Cthulhu_is_my_homeboy: HaywoodJablonski: You kids are so cute.

/Bunahabhain 18 please

The problem with Scotch is that any Scotch I'd actually want to drink, I wouldn't want to have to pay for; and any Scotch I'd be willing to pay for I wouldn't want to have to drink!

/cheap Bourbon is still good, and good Bourbon is still cheap


The problem with Scotch is that it tastes like burnt peat-moss and ass.
 
2013-10-26 10:12:12 AM  

MrBallou: If they used a round bottle, they'd be open to similar complaints from dozens of other whiskey brands.

Jack Daniels is swill only fit for mixing. George Dickel is the one you want for sipping.


This farker speaks the truth!!! Make sure it's the white lable (No. 12)

liquor.com
I love this shiat.
/neat please
 
2013-10-26 10:15:34 AM  

give me doughnuts: Cthulhu_is_my_homeboy: HaywoodJablonski: You kids are so cute.

/Bunahabhain 18 please

The problem with Scotch is that any Scotch I'd actually want to drink, I wouldn't want to have to pay for; and any Scotch I'd be willing to pay for I wouldn't want to have to drink!

/cheap Bourbon is still good, and good Bourbon is still cheap

The problem with Scotch is that it tastes like burnt peat-moss and ass.


And Laphroaig is the worst offender. More like an unwiped asshole crusted with the shiat of someone who eats burnt peat-moss.
 
2013-10-26 10:20:06 AM  
I've  been wondering all morning why there are so many motorcycles going by the house this morning. Jack Daniels is having their World Championship Invitational Barbeque.
  *Dickel  FTW* but shhhhhh don't say that too loud down here.
 
2013-10-26 10:29:14 AM  
I could not care less about anything that happens in Tennessee.
Also, people who drink frou-frou label bourbon are douche baguettes.
 
2013-10-26 10:40:26 AM  
I'll stick with the Irish stuff thank you. Jack is a headache on a bottle, much like American beer.

Don't care. I knows what I likes.
 
2013-10-26 10:41:21 AM  

anniesmom: I've  been wondering all morning why there are so many motorcycles going by the house this morning. Jack Daniels is having their World Championship Invitational Barbeque.
  *Dickel  FTW* but shhhhhh don't say that too loud down here.


Noted for the eulogy.
 
2013-10-26 10:41:51 AM  
FTA: "The suit was filed by California-based Jack Daniel's Properties Inc., a subsidiary of Brown-Forman Corp."

California? Git a rope.
 
2013-10-26 10:42:28 AM  
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yp56sT66D1U < Sutton's movie, that got him prosecuted for bootlegging. He killed himself rather than report to prison; he had cancer anyway. His wife cut a deal with Hank "Ow, My Face"  Wms. Jr to license his name. Reportedly there's some upset folks in Maggie Valley over the whole thing tho I don't think anyone begrudges his wife making a few bucks per se.

Worth watching anyway, iffen ever you wonder where stereotypes come from, here's one as pure as the driven snow.
 
2013-10-26 10:49:10 AM  

ph0rk: It's LDI whiskey


Point of information... LDI is MGP now... Midwest Grain Partners
 
2013-10-26 10:56:12 AM  

CoysOdie: This is about as stupid as when Harley Davidson tried to trademark the "sound".


Or, for that matter, when the Scotch Whisky Association sued Nova Scotia's Glenora distillery over Glen Breton using "Glen" in its name. Never mind that it clearly identified itself as a Canadian whisky. Fortunately, the SWA lost its appeal.

I know that actual trademarks have to be defended, but the Jack bottle and the Popcorn Sutton's bottle don't look even vaguely similar. I think the big guys are looking at what happened to the beer business (where craft products are on the rise and macrobrews waning) and freaking out, and will come up with any bullshiat excuse to smash upstarts.

On the other hand, in the whiskey business, it's hard to tell who's real and who's the faker. There are lots of ryes out there that all come from MGP Ingredients in Lawrenceburg, Indiana. Some of it is sold under major brands (Bulleit, Dickel), and others are smaller players (Templeton, etc.). It's all good whiskey, but it isn't coming from who you think it is. The only differences are where and how long it's aged (and with Dickel, the maple charcoal filtering).

Of course, a craft distiller has to wait several years before its own product is ready to be bottled - and unless you can get minibottles or find a bar serving it, you have to gamble whether a fifth of unknown hooch is worth its price.
 
2013-10-26 10:59:29 AM  

Mztlplx: anniesmom: I've  been wondering all morning why there are so many motorcycles going by the house this morning. Jack Daniels is having their World Championship Invitational Barbeque.
  *Dickel  FTW* but shhhhhh don't say that too loud down here.

Noted for the eulogy.


;) You remembered!  I heart  you so much!
 
2013-10-26 11:00:16 AM  
Jack Daniels sucks, nastiest rotgut marketed as actual good whiskey.
 
2013-10-26 11:21:08 AM  
No, because Tennessee whiskey sucks.

www.bourbonblog.com
 
2013-10-26 11:23:14 AM  
There are a lot of square bottles. They don't roll, and that reduces breakage. There are a lot of black labels. There need to be more similarities than that to cause confusion in the marketplace. The squiggly design over the writing seems vaguely similar, but the font does not. I don't think Jack Daniel's has a case.
 
2013-10-26 11:43:12 AM  
a.abcnews.go.com

I'm so confused. Please sue so I'm not cornfused.
 
2013-10-26 12:11:18 PM  
I think the real issue here is Jack Daniel's competing product, Unage Rye, bottles look less like their own product than Sutton's new bottles.

Of course, Jack Daniel's poor bottling decisions are not their competitors fault.  Then again, maybe I am willing to give consumers of alcoholic beverages more credit in their ability to read the label when making their beverage selections.  For example, in the wine industry the overwhelming majority of the bottles look very similar, as do many labels.


www.reddogwineandspirits.com
 
2013-10-26 12:18:24 PM  
last night was a laphroaig night. now that's a whisky.
 
2013-10-26 12:40:08 PM  

HotWingAgenda: Bulleit small batch rye.  Thank me later.



You tell the truth, Good Person.  That's the only thing I'll get these days.
 
2013-10-26 12:45:39 PM  
Came for the George-Dickel-better-than-Jack-Daniel reference. Leaving satisfied.

/Yes, George Dickel from Tullahoma, TN is better than Jack, IMHO.
 
2013-10-26 12:51:39 PM  
No comments on Jr. Johnson's moonshine?
 
2013-10-26 12:54:24 PM  

dudemanbro: Because Jack is the only whiskey in a square bottle with a black label. Fark you Brown & Co. or Seagrams or whomever makes that crap now. Think I'll go get some Evan Williams just to piss you off. It is real bourbon after all, unlike Jack.


Their bottle looks a lot more like JD than the bottle referenced in the article. What, is EW too big to sue, but they think they can beat this little distillery?
 
2013-10-26 12:58:36 PM  

John Buck 41: dudemanbro: Because Jack is the only whiskey in a square bottle with a black label. Fark you Brown & Co. or Seagrams or whomever makes that crap now. Think I'll go get some Evan Williams just to piss you off. It is real bourbon after all, unlike Jack.

Their bottle looks a lot more like JD than the bottle referenced in the article. What, is EW too big to sue, but they think they can beat this little distillery?


I see that both my points were already covered upthread.
 
2013-10-26 01:01:37 PM  

JonnyBGoode: [cdn.history.com image 686x385]

Frowns on their shenanigans. Rank amateurs.


Who's the chick 5th from the right? Rawwwrrrrrrr....
 
2013-10-26 01:05:36 PM  
I got introduced to a bourbon I'd never tried earlier this year and liked it quite a bit. Heaven Hill. I liked it even more when I went to buy a bottle for myself and discovered it's damn affordable. Now I can save my cash for the expensive stuff I like, like Redbreast and Middleton.
 
2013-10-26 01:20:05 PM  
Speaking of bourbon, I had some Knob Creek Single Barrel Reserve 9 Year last night. It's 120 proof. Delicious but, oddly enough, I found it dried my mouth out like crazy.
 
2013-10-26 01:43:44 PM  

blockhouse: Jack Daniels is not a bourbon because they filter the product through maple charcoal, which violates the regulation.


Nope, filtering is permitted, and quite a few whiskeys that call themselves bourbon do the same thing. It's bourbon. In fact, in NAFTA and various other trade deals, we spell out "Tennessee Whiskey" as a protected term. You know how we define it? Straight bourbon made in Tennessee.
 
2013-10-26 02:23:47 PM  
The real Holy Hand-Grenade:

cocktailenthusiast.com
 
2013-10-26 03:52:59 PM  
All this bourbon and whiskey talk and not one mention of Woodford Reserve, Knob Creek, or anything Van Winkle?
 
2013-10-26 04:20:31 PM  
Any one for popcorn?

Or would that be too much like taking sides?
 
2013-10-26 04:25:05 PM  

blugenes: All this bourbon and whiskey talk and not one mention of Woodford Reserve, Knob Creek, or anything Van Winkle?


I love WR but their bottle looks nothing like JD.
 
2013-10-26 04:49:05 PM  

give me doughnuts: The real Holy Hand-Grenade:

[cocktailenthusiast.com image 248x452]


Fark yes! That stuff is delicious.
 
2013-10-26 06:02:23 PM  

cptjeff: \Drinking Old Grand-Dad Bottled in Bond right now.


/csb on

When I was a freshman at Georgia Tech, my next-door-neighbor came into my room just after Christmas break with a bottle of Old Grand-Dad in a cardboard box.

"Look what I have," he says and swings the box up, imparting enough force on the box that the bottom split open, dropping the bottle from head-height onto the linoleum floor.  Glass and booze went everywhere.

That stuff took the finish off the flooring and I had to keep my windows open for days (in January) until everything aired out.  It took a long time for that smell to get out of everything and I felt like drinking liquor again.

/csb off
 
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