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(Oregon Live)   So the reviews for Ridley Scott's "The Counselor" are terrible. But Cameron Diaz has sex with a Ferrari, so there's that   (oregonlive.com) divider line 61
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2013-10-26 02:50:51 PM  
Apos

Whatever happened to the dynamic director who brought us Blade Runner, Alien, Black Hawk Down and the like?

Same thing that happened to G. Lucas, S. Spielberg, and FF Coppola. They got old.
 
2013-10-26 02:52:29 PM  

stonelotus: I love how all the Prometheus bashing basically boils down to "I didn't understand why they did that so it sucks".  Maybe the characters' motivations were just a bit outside your grasp.


You thought the Matrix sequels were super deep just because they named a character "The Merovingian", didn't you?
 
2013-10-26 03:11:16 PM  

EdgeRunner: stonelotus: I love how all the Prometheus bashing basically boils down to "I didn't understand why they did that so it sucks".  Maybe the characters' motivations were just a bit outside your grasp.

You thought the Matrix sequels were super deep just because they named a character "The Merovingian", didn't you?


more movies outside your capacity?
 
2013-10-26 03:18:20 PM  

OnlyM3: Apos

Whatever happened to the dynamic director who brought us Blade Runner, Alien, Black Hawk Down and the like?
Same thing that happened to G. Lucas, S. Spielberg, and FF Coppola. They got old.



I WAS going to mention Eastwood as a powerful rebuttal-until I remembered his recent streak of craptastic flicks. Sigh.
 
2013-10-26 04:17:36 PM  

stonelotus: EdgeRunner: stonelotus: I love how all the Prometheus bashing basically boils down to "I didn't understand why they did that so it sucks".  Maybe the characters' motivations were just a bit outside your grasp.

You thought the Matrix sequels were super deep just because they named a character "The Merovingian", didn't you?

more movies outside your capacity?


Honestly dude, try rewatching these films sometime when you're not stoned. They don't work as well on their  own merits.
 
2013-10-26 04:43:35 PM  

stonelotus: I love how all the Prometheus bashing basically boils down to "I didn't understand why they did that so it sucks".  Maybe the characters' motivations were just a bit outside your grasp.


By all means, enlighten us. Answer for all the questions I listed above. I'm dying to know the motivations of the bozos who got lost despite having the map?
 
2013-10-26 04:45:37 PM  

EdgeRunner: stonelotus: EdgeRunner: stonelotus: I love how all the Prometheus bashing basically boils down to "I didn't understand why they did that so it sucks".  Maybe the characters' motivations were just a bit outside your grasp.

You thought the Matrix sequels were super deep just because they named a character "The Merovingian", didn't you?

more movies outside your capacity?

Honestly dude, try rewatching these films sometime when you're not stoned. They don't work as well on their  own merits.


honestly dude, look into the concept of "suspension of disbelief".  you'll save yourself a ton of money on having to have your panties ironed back out.
 
2013-10-26 05:55:43 PM  

Ishkur: Slaxl: Still with the prometheus hate? The only thing wrong with prometheus was the rolling space ship and the running in the wrong direction. Everything else made perfect sense.

What about the motherfarker who brought the god damn mapping balls somehow getting lost? How the hell does that happen? He has the god damn map!!!

What about the motherfarker dissing the biologist on the ship and was all like "I'm here to make money, not be your friend". And then later on was like "I'm a geologist! I study rocks! Not dead bodies!" while being IN A CAVE ON AN ALIEN WORLD SURROUNDED BY ROCKS (so go study some, asshole). Oh wait, that was the same motherfarker. Seriously, who the fark was that guy and why'd they bring him along?!

What about the biologist who is all scared about dead things and is like "don't touch anything" but later on sees a deadly animal and all of a sudden is full of courage and is trying to pet the damn thing? How stupid can one be?

What about the archeologist dude finding incredible alien artifacts on an unknown world and being completely underwhelmed, and crying about how it's "just another tomb" while finding solace at the bottom of the bottle. Any real archeologist would lose his proverbial shiat at a find like that. It's bigger than Howard Carter and Indiana Jones combined! Who the fark thinks like that?

What about the asshole who takes off his god damn helmet without giving any care or consideration for microbes or environmental contamination, either from him or on him? Oh wait, that was the same asshole. What the fark was he thinking?

What about the stupid biatch who had her abdominal muscles completely severed in such a way that she'd never have any control over her hips, torso or pelvis, and unable to stand up without her body cavity falling out, suddenly running and jumping around for the rest of the movie? How stupid do the filmmakers think we are to assume that we'd just gloss over that part and think that because her skin was stapled sh ...


Fark Yes!!  I'm not nitpicky about movies but Prometheus wanted to be this deep movie about our creation.  A couple more that I HATED:

The Captain slightly rotates the 3d image of the "cave" and THEN discovers it's a ship.

I also loved the scene where the Captain runs in and says that this isn't their home planet, it's a weapons making facility and they are making weapons of mass destruction.  How the Fark did he figure all that out?!!

You pointed out how the scientists acted so BLAH to the discoveries they made.  That's what really ruined the movie for me.  You have a re animated severed alien head on your lab table and you're having a drink looking like you couldn't be more bored.  It reminded me of Corey Feldman from Gremlins when Billy showed him Gizmo for the first time and he would rather look at a farking comic book and actually responded to Billy like he thought the whole idea of a Mogwai was nothing exciting...."Yeah, great, no really, that's great..snooze."

The fact that no one...NOT ONE PERSON...was in charge of keeping an eye on the two scientists lost on the surface.  Not even to monitor any emergency contact.  I know the Captain wanted to Fark Theron, who wouldn't, but at least have him tell one of the other numerous people on the ship...."Hey, if one of these guys has any trouble, let me know."  Nope.

So with plot holes this big, I'm not surprised that this movie is not being well received.
 
2013-10-26 06:19:51 PM  

stonelotus: honestly dude, look into the concept of "suspension of disbelief".


Oh, don't give me that shiat. Suspension of disbelief only applies to things not integral to the plot. Scotty rattling the keyboard to produce the formula for transparent aluminum in Star Trek IV, for instance. Yeah, it looks silly to see him just hammer the keyboard and seeing mouse-driven menu commands on a GUI interface move with proficiency. That's not the point. It's not important how he did it or what the formula is. It was just a plot device to acquire the things they need.

You can't do that with Prometheus. I would have overlooked anyone else getting lost, but NOT the guy with the god damn map. And he buddies up with the biologist pretty quickly when he made it clear earlier that he wasn't interested in making friends. This is a betrayal of character and a massive plot hole. Seriously, do script writers not read their own works and notice these things? Do they not at least think "wait a second, that guy can't get lost, he has the map. It's gotta be someone else, then."
 
2013-10-26 08:12:31 PM  

Ishkur: What about the stupid Captain and Charlize Theron abandoning their posts in the most unprofessional manner and saying "Most incredible discovery in human history? fark this shiat, let's go have sex."


That part in particular bugged me. But yeah, there's a whole lot of Idiot Balls getting passed around in that movie.

One other thing: when Rapace flies off in the second ship to go visit the Engineer homeworld, what is she planning on eating during the trip?
 
2013-10-26 09:39:34 PM  
Apos
2013-10-26 03:18:20 PM


OnlyM3: Apos

Whatever happened to the dynamic director who brought us Blade Runner, Alien, Black Hawk Down and the like?
Same thing that happened to G. Lucas, S. Spielberg, and FF Coppola. They got old.


I WAS going to mention Eastwood as a powerful rebuttal-until I remembered his recent streak of craptastic flicks. Sigh.

He (Eastwood) certainly lasted longer than those on the aforementioned list.
 
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