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(Talking Points Memo)   According to Joe the Plumber, "White Democrats are the most racist people I've ever met"   (talkingpointsmemo.com) divider line 332
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2013-10-25 06:17:38 PM
imageshack.us
LOL WUT?
 
2013-10-25 06:23:25 PM
yeah fark off already 15 minute closeted skinhead.
 
2013-10-25 06:39:37 PM
Methinks he doth project too much.
 
2013-10-25 06:41:48 PM
I don't get how you can farking say that after posting an essay titled "America Needs a White Republican President"
 
2013-10-25 06:44:34 PM
Too b fair among racist klan and neonazi types racist has a different meaning and that meaning is pretty damned racist
 
2013-10-25 06:54:46 PM

scottydoesntknow: I don't get how you can farking say that after posting an essay titled "America Needs a White Republican President"


Because you're the real racist for asking that question.

Study it out.
 
2013-10-25 06:56:20 PM
uh... yeah
 
2013-10-25 07:00:33 PM
Interdasting.
 
2013-10-25 07:16:54 PM
I see the group that is 99% white is not racist and the group that is full of diverse people of all ethnicities are the "real racists".

And the "black people are too stupid to understand that Democrats are bad for them" -- yeah that's going to get you far.
 
2013-10-25 07:17:44 PM
explorethecanyon.com
 
2013-10-25 07:31:09 PM
Look, everyone. It's the Master Race!
 
2013-10-25 07:47:13 PM

NewportBarGuy: Look, everyone. It's the Master Race!


i.imgur.com
 
2013-10-25 08:23:25 PM
fake name
fake job
fake stupid question for the President

Honestly, I don't know why he doesn't run for leadership of the GOP, he represents their integrity perfectly.
 
2013-10-25 08:42:44 PM
Well, to be fair, Southern Democrats are Democrats.
 
2013-10-25 09:45:18 PM
Why the fark is this person famous?
 
2013-10-25 09:46:22 PM

Mugato: Why the fark is this person famous?


I think he's a gay porn star or something.  Or is he the guy that raped and murdered that girl back in the 90's?  I always get them confused.
 
2013-10-25 09:48:06 PM
"Unquestionably white Democrats are the most racist people I've ever met, and they have infected black Democrats. The irony is that black Democrats will one day realize the racism from their white handlers and, blacks will bite the hand that feeds them. Unfortunately America will likely be bankrupt when it happens"

I don't even know where to begin with that statement.
 
2013-10-25 09:56:52 PM
I hate to agree with Joe in any way, but in my little corner of NEPA the local government is largely Democrats and this is the most racist area I have ever lived in. That said, Sam is a major league dickbag, and my experience is with local politics in Pennsyltucky and likely does not reflect the national landscape.
 
2013-10-25 10:04:52 PM
Careful there, Joe. It takes one to know one, you know...
 
2013-10-25 10:21:50 PM
Does he have a job yet?
 
2013-10-25 10:28:00 PM

edmo: Does he have a job yet?


You just read it. Times are tough for unemployed plumbers...
 
2013-10-25 10:29:37 PM
Why is it that the best argument against the existence of the Master Race are the people who claim to be it's shining examples?

And why is it that someone who starts of his sentences "I'm not racist, but.." inevitably ends up coming off as a huge one?
 
2013-10-25 10:30:43 PM

MrHappyRotter: Mugato: Why the fark is this person famous?

I think he's a gay porn star or something.  Or is he the guy that raped and murdered that girl back in the 90's?  I always get them confused.


hubiestubert: edmo: Does he have a job yet?

You just read it. Times are tough for unemployed plumbers...


Is "plumbing" a genre of gay porn? Intuitively, it feels right...
 
2013-10-25 10:34:03 PM

Gecko Gingrich: Well, to be fair, Southern Democrats are Democrats.


Not since 1964.
 
2013-10-25 10:35:16 PM

djkutch: MrHappyRotter: Mugato: Why the fark is this person famous?

I think he's a gay porn star or something.  Or is he the guy that raped and murdered that girl back in the 90's?  I always get them confused.

hubiestubert: edmo: Does he have a job yet?

You just read it. Times are tough for unemployed plumbers...

Is "plumbing" a genre of gay porn? Intuitively, it feels right...


Possibly, but you'll find more compelling material if you just search for "blue collar".  Plumbing tends to bring up a lot of results for fisting vids and clips of dudes who've pumped their junk full of saline solution ... not exactly my cup o' tea.
 
2013-10-25 10:37:53 PM

Marcus Aurelius: "Unquestionably white Democrats are the most racist people I've ever met, and they have infected black Democrats. The irony is that black Democrats will one day realize the racism from their white handlers and, blacks will bite the hand that feeds them. Unfortunately America will likely be bankrupt when it happens"

I don't even know where to begin with that statement.

 
2013-10-25 10:38:59 PM

Marcus Aurelius: "Unquestionably white Democrats are the most racist people I've ever met, and they have infected black Democrats. The irony is that black Democrats will one day realize the racism from their white handlers and, blacks will bite the hand that feeds them. Unfortunately America will likely be bankrupt when it happens"

I don't even know where to begin with that statement.


When you register as a democrat, you get a button that says 'I voted' and a black person to handle.
 
2013-10-25 10:41:32 PM
I'm not racist.  One of my presidents is black.
 
2013-10-25 10:52:20 PM
If anyone would know what a white racist looks like, it's Joe The Plumber.
 
2013-10-25 11:02:51 PM

MrHappyRotter: djkutch: MrHappyRotter: Mugato: Why the fark is this person famous?

I think he's a gay porn star or something.  Or is he the guy that raped and murdered that girl back in the 90's?  I always get them confused.

hubiestubert: edmo: Does he have a job yet?

You just read it. Times are tough for unemployed plumbers...

Is "plumbing" a genre of gay porn? Intuitively, it feels right...

Possibly, but you'll find more compelling material if you just search for "blue collar".  Plumbing tends to bring up a lot of results for fisting vids and clips of dudes who've pumped their junk full of saline solution ... not exactly my cup o' tea.


Joe looks like he could handle a sewer back up.
 
2013-10-25 11:03:52 PM

mrshowrules: fake name
fake job
fake stupid question for the President

Honestly, I don't know why he doesn't run for leadership of the GOP, he represents their integrity perfectly.


yet he was given a royal anal exam by the left because obama answered his question honestly.

/his driver's license was made public, that he was a plumber apprentice was made public.  why?  because the left seethed at his nerve to ask a stupid question to a faker candidate.

/lesson learned?  Unless you want people digging through your garbage for 5 weeks, you had better not question a democrat unless it is "boxers or briefs".

//had the media and rabid leftist let this guy alone, he would not be a news item today, would he.  but they had to teach the proletariat minions a lesson, didn't they.
 
2013-10-25 11:10:55 PM
Fark you McCain. Fark you with a rusty fence post. You unleashed this douche and the Alaskan Ted Cruz on us

DIAF
 
2013-10-25 11:15:43 PM

Gecko Gingrich: Well, to be fair, Southern Democrats are Democrats.


Yes, but the old southern democrats all became republicans in 1968. And they were only democrats before that because Lincoln was a republican.
 
2013-10-25 11:33:49 PM
His real name isnt Joe, and hes not even a real plumber
 
2013-10-25 11:42:12 PM
Thom Hartmann digs deep and gets to the real essence of Joe the Plumber.

http://www.thomhartmann.com/blog/2009/01/transcript-joe-plumber-wurz el bacher-29-january-2009
 
2013-10-25 11:44:27 PM
i.imgur.com

===

Yeah, "what ever the hell your real name is" blogger-guy. You run with that.
 
2013-10-25 11:51:16 PM
Martin Luther King, Jr. was a Republican.

Jesse Helms is President of the Confederate States of Real America.
 
2013-10-25 11:53:17 PM

hardinparamedic: And why is it that someone who starts of his sentences "I'm not racist, but.." inevitably ends up coming off as a huge one?


It really doesn't matter what descriptor you use, you'll always come off as the person you are claiming you aren't, because people's ears perk up the minute they hear it.  It's a dog whistle.

If someone says "I'm not gay, but those are nice shoes" - everyone is going to think that guy is gay.  However, it only works for pejorative connotations.  You cannot say "I'm not a mechanic, but that noise reducer thingy is making a clangy bang" and expect someone to think you're a mechanic.  It just doesn't work that way.
 
2013-10-26 12:41:30 AM

Lsherm: hardinparamedic: And why is it that someone who starts of his sentences "I'm not racist, but.." inevitably ends up coming off as a huge one?

It really doesn't matter what descriptor you use, you'll always come off as the person you are claiming you aren't, because people's ears perk up the minute they hear it.  It's a dog whistle.

If someone says "I'm not gay, but those are nice shoes" - everyone is going to think that guy is gay.  However, it only works for pejorative connotations.  You cannot say "I'm not a mechanic, but that noise reducer thingy is making a clangy bang" and expect someone to think you're a mechanic.  It just doesn't work that way.


Just like when a girl says "It's not you, it's me..." means that it IS you.

Seriously, though,

tng.trekcore.com

Go the fark away, "Joe".
 
2013-10-26 12:42:18 AM

Peter von Nostrand: Fark you McCain. Fark you with a rusty fence post. You unleashed this douche and the Alaskan Ted Cruz on us

DIAF


Do you think whenever McCain sees or reads about Joe Plumb he starts clapping his hands and singing to the tune of the dreidel song: "shiatbag shiatbag shiatbag, I made you out of shiat" ?

Me neither, but he could, and it would be wholly appropriate
 
2013-10-26 12:43:50 AM
i293.photobucket.com

Oh dear FSM, apparently posting that "I want a White Republican President" essay by the cray cray black guy got JtP more ink than he's seen in years and now he's gonna ride that crazy train as long as he can.

Am I actually in before "Southern strategy"? Wow. Would not have guessed.
 
2013-10-26 12:50:27 AM
He's speaking to the brown people, the black people, the red people and the yellow people. He's trying to convince them that both parties are racist...SO VOTE REPUBLICAN!!1!
 
2013-10-26 12:54:01 AM

Marcus Aurelius: "Unquestionably white Democrats are the most racist people I've ever met, and they have infected black Democrats. The irony is that black Democrats will one day realize the racism from their white handlers and, blacks will bite the hand that feeds them. Unfortunately America will likely be bankrupt when it happens"

I don't even know where to begin with that statement.


*scratches head*

I suppose noticing that he equated black people to animals somehow makes me the real racist.
 
2013-10-26 12:54:49 AM

edmo: Does he have a job yet?


Yeah, for $1000 plus travel expenses, he'll go to your house anywhere in the country and do your plumbing even though he's not licensed in any state.  By the way, this was fine in Ohio, because you don't need to be licensed if you're working for someone else (massage therapists in New York are the same way, so if anyone wants to pay me $1000 plus travel expenses, I have 13 years of experience), but not if you have your own business or work independently, as it looks like what Sam is trying to do.

I think his price goes up if you just want to have a conversation with him, for some bizarre reason.

Maybe Sean Hannity will hire him, since he paid $300,000 for a painting that won't be worth $20 once Obama leaves office.
 
2013-10-26 12:59:15 AM
From one cracker to another: Get bent, you lowlife honkie.
 
2013-10-26 01:02:12 AM
upload.wikimedia.org
 
2013-10-26 01:03:03 AM
I don't know what is so hard to understand about this.  The KKKrats are the REAL racists, they're policies force the blacks into neo-slavery by way of LIEberal entitlements and like such as.  WAKE UP SHEEPLE!
 
2013-10-26 01:03:45 AM
I remember a day when dumb Americans were embarrassed about how stupid they were and they kept their mouth shut.
 
2013-10-26 01:04:41 AM
Please quit calling this guy a plumber!
 
2013-10-26 01:05:57 AM

quatchi: [i293.photobucket.com image 530x576]

Oh dear FSM, apparently posting that "I want a White Republican President" essay by the cray cray black guy got JtP more ink than he's seen in years and now he's gonna ride that crazy train as long as he can.

Am I actually in before "Southern strategy"? Wow. Would not have guessed.


yeah that's a part of history they're trying to revise. that the southern white Dixiecrats all jumped party and took over the GOP. at least the social/culture part of the platform that the .01% need to vote to maintain power.
 
2013-10-26 01:09:24 AM

blue_2501: Please quit calling this guy a plumber!


If we do that, no one would know who we were talking about.  Being a pretend plumber is his only claim to fame.
 
2013-10-26 01:10:59 AM
Joe who?

/joe mama!
 
2013-10-26 01:12:04 AM

scottydoesntknow: I don't get how you can farking say that after posting an essay titled "America Needs a White Republican President"


It's his way of saying "no YOU are the racist"
 
2013-10-26 01:12:44 AM

hardinparamedic: And why is it that someone who starts of his sentences "I'm not racist, but.." inevitably ends up coming off as a huge one?


They're always going to say something racist after starting with that phrase. If they were going to say something not racist, they wouldn't need to use it in the first place.
 
2013-10-26 01:15:05 AM

Phil Moskowitz: I remember a day when dumb Americans were embarrassed about how stupid they were and they kept their mouth shut.


upload.wikimedia.org
 
2013-10-26 01:15:29 AM
"According to Joe the Plumber" is the part of the article you should stop reading at.
 
2013-10-26 01:19:25 AM

The RIchest Man in Babylon: I don't know what is so hard to understand about this.  The KKKrats are the REAL racists, they're policies force the blacks into neo-slavery by way of LIEberal entitlements and like such as.  WAKE UP SHEEPLE!


yeah liberal entitlements like piss poor wages and benefits declining for the past 35 years. and letting the big guys skate by on less taxes than the rest. how much of a working man's check is rendered unto Caesar?  not just income tax but sales tax,property tax,state tax and payroll tax. and we're supposed to bow down to the "job creators" and give them whatever they want because they'll just leave and take their money with them. that's bullshiat. they need workers, they need our markets to sell their goods and services. Americans have been sold to highest bidders. And told a lie so much they believe it. If those sons of biatches were to leave ,someone else would take their place. demand drives an economy. not capital investments. the money will come. the demand is here. the infrastructure to manufacture what we need is here. the educated workforce is here. they're not going anywhere. it's all a huge scam and people fall for it. sure inflation would occur but so would wages and jobs would be plentiful.  but we need to elect people not afraid of changing trade agreements. stop this global race to the bottom. the concept of globalization was that it would raise all boats. not lower everyone to neo slave wages. the govt cannot continue to subsidize companies who won't pay a living wage.
 
2013-10-26 01:19:58 AM

quatchi: Oh dear FSM, apparently posting that "I want a White Republican President" essay by the cray cray black guy got JtP more ink than he's seen in years and now he's gonna ride that crazy train as long as he can.


They're The Idiot Defiant Ones.
 
2013-10-26 01:20:02 AM
Well he's probably going by the definition of "racist" that suggests if you're in favor of helping the poor, you must mean "the poor" as code for "minorities," and that by wanting to help those people, you're implying they can't help themselves and are thus inferior to you. I do know a few ultralibs who have uttered some pretty uncharitable things about non-whites that they didn't intend as racist, but that could certainly be interpreted that way. Still, Joe the plumber is a farking moron and doesn't deserve the benefit of the doubt.
 
2013-10-26 01:20:28 AM
And here I thought he was just going to blame Obamacare as the latest reason for not starting that plumbing business he had his heart set on FIVE YEARS AGO
 
2013-10-26 01:21:50 AM

SauronWasFramed: mrshowrules: fake name
fake job
fake stupid question for the President

Honestly, I don't know why he doesn't run for leadership of the GOP, he represents their integrity perfectly.

yet he was given a royal anal exam by the left because obama answered his question honestly.

/his driver's license was made public, that he was a plumber apprentice was made public.  why?  because the left seethed at his nerve to ask a stupid question to a faker candidate.

/lesson learned?  Unless you want people digging through your garbage for 5 weeks, you had better not question a democrat unless it is "boxers or briefs".

//had the media and rabid leftist let this guy alone, he would not be a news item today, would he.  but they had to teach the proletariat minions a lesson, didn't they.


The butthurt is strong with you.  Feed it, wallow in it.  Die with it.
 
2013-10-26 01:22:19 AM
This man is truly ignorant, isn't he.
 
2013-10-26 01:23:31 AM
What to Project When You're Projecting
 
2013-10-26 01:23:40 AM

ongbok: This man is truly ignorant, isn't he.


Joe the Dumber.
 
2013-10-26 01:25:11 AM

Hobodeluxe: The RIchest Man in Babylon: I don't know what is so hard to understand about this.  The KKKrats are the REAL racists, they're policies force the blacks into neo-slavery by way of LIEberal entitlements and like such as.  WAKE UP SHEEPLE!

yeah liberal entitlements like piss poor wages and benefits declining for the past 35 years. and letting the big guys skate by on less taxes than the rest. how much of a working man's check is rendered unto Caesar?  not just income tax but sales tax,property tax,state tax and payroll tax. and we're supposed to bow down to the "job creators" and give them whatever they want because they'll just leave and take their money with them. that's bullshiat. they need workers, they need our markets to sell their goods and services. Americans have been sold to highest bidders. And told a lie so much they believe it. If those sons of biatches were to leave ,someone else would take their place. demand drives an economy. not capital investments. the money will come. the demand is here. the infrastructure to manufacture what we need is here. the educated workforce is here. they're not going anywhere. it's all a huge scam and people fall for it. sure inflation would occur but so would wages and jobs would be plentiful.  but we need to elect people not afraid of changing trade agreements. stop this global race to the bottom. the concept of globalization was that it would raise all boats. not lower everyone to neo slave wages. the govt cannot continue to subsidize companies who won't pay a living wage.


...notSureIfSerious.jpg
 
2013-10-26 01:27:45 AM

The RIchest Man in Babylon: I don't know what is so hard to understand about this.  The KKKrats are the REAL racists, they're policies force the blacks into neo-slavery by way of LIEberal entitlements and like such as.  WAKE UP SHEEPLE!


Shush.
 
2013-10-26 01:27:47 AM

Schmegicky: Phil Moskowitz: I remember a day when dumb Americans were embarrassed about how stupid they were and they kept their mouth shut.

[upload.wikimedia.org image 311x237]


Sa-lute!

eatpreyhate.files.wordpress.com
 
2013-10-26 01:30:05 AM

Marcus Aurelius: "Unquestionably white Democrats are the most racist people I've ever met, and they have infected black Democrats. The irony is that black Democrats will one day realize the racism from their white handlers and, blacks will bite the hand that feeds them. Unfortunately America will likely be bankrupt when it happens"

I don't even know where to begin with that statement.


Slavery analogy and the implication that black people are stupid. How do you write that and not think "Wait, that's really farking stupid and racist to say."?
 
2013-10-26 01:33:34 AM
www.whitehouse.gov
The last white GOP president was beaten up by a damn pretzel.
 
2013-10-26 01:33:44 AM
Is this why skinheads shave their heads?  Less friction when they lodge their heads up their own asses?
 
2013-10-26 01:34:05 AM

apoptotic: Marcus Aurelius: "Unquestionably white Democrats are the most racist people I've ever met, and they have infected black Democrats. The irony is that black Democrats will one day realize the racism from their white handlers and, blacks will bite the hand that feeds them. Unfortunately America will likely be bankrupt when it happens"

I don't even know where to begin with that statement.

*scratches head*

I suppose noticing that he equated black people to animals somehow makes me the real racist.


The thing everyone, including Subby, is missing is it WASN'T JOE THE DUMBASS WHO SAID IT.

In his statement, Jackson echoed the idea Democrats are racist.

"Unquestionably white Democrats are the most racist people I've ever met, and they have infected black Democrats. The irony is that black Democrats will one day realize the racism from their white handlers and, blacks will bite the hand that feeds them. Unfortunately America will likely be bankrupt when it happens," wrote Jackson.


THIS is the guy that said it:

ionenewsone.files.wordpress.com

Wrap your head around that.
 
2013-10-26 01:34:21 AM

WizardofToast: Marcus Aurelius: "Unquestionably white Democrats are the most racist people I've ever met, and they have infected black Democrats. The irony is that black Democrats will one day realize the racism from their white handlers and, blacks will bite the hand that feeds them. Unfortunately America will likely be bankrupt when it happens"

I don't even know where to begin with that statement.

Slavery analogy and the implication that black people are stupid. How do you write that and not think "Wait, that's really farking stupid and racist to say."?


Because you are such a dumbass you think everybody that shares your same color thinks the way you do. Most bigots, no matter their color, ethnicity, religion or whatever, are this damn stupid.
 
2013-10-26 01:36:29 AM
fusillade762:

The thing everyone, including Subby, is missing is it WASN'T JOE THE DUMBASS WHO SAID IT.

Too late, it's fact now!  HAHAHAHA, suck on it Teabaggers!
 
2013-10-26 01:37:13 AM

Wake Up Sheeple: The RIchest Man in Babylon: I don't know what is so hard to understand about this.  The KKKrats are the REAL racists, they're policies force the blacks into neo-slavery by way of LIEberal entitlements and like such as.  WAKE UP SHEEPLE!

Shush.


imgs.xkcd.com
 
2013-10-26 01:37:28 AM
Yes, Republicans... keep pushing that "Democrat plantation" bullshiat.

Everyone is totally buying it, and there's really no better way to convince black people that you're not racist than to constantly point out how dumb you think they are and remind them that even in the year 2013, you have an incredibly difficult time NOT associating them with slave imagery.

Next, you guys should totally start going out in blackface and talk "skreet" to them to show them how "down" you are with the "brothers." Slip them some skin in one of those elaborate "bro" shakes that ends in a snap or an explosion. If you still need to bolster your cred, be sure to point out that a number of your best friends (or, "ni**as") are black.
 
2013-10-26 01:37:46 AM

Precious Roy's Horse Dividers: I hate to agree with Joe in any way, but in my little corner of NEPA the local government is largely Democrats and this is the most racist area I have ever lived in. That said, Sam is a major league dickbag, and my experience is with local politics in Pennsyltucky and likely does not reflect the national landscape.


lol, I lived in Oklahoma for a bit, my town had an active KKK chapter... if they caught anyone admitting to being a democrat there, well... that was as bad to them as being black, jewish, catholic, or any of the other long list of people the KKK hate.
 
2013-10-26 01:44:04 AM
I'm not sure why people who embrace the ideology of the Confederacy have such difficulty with the whole Dixiecrat concept...then again, I'm not sure why so many modern liberals struggle with the concept either, so there you go.
 
2013-10-26 01:47:19 AM

Cpl.D: Is this why skinheads shave their heads?  Less friction when they lodge their heads up their own asses?


They tend to leave a little stubble because they also like the sensation.
 
2013-10-26 01:47:46 AM

mrshowrules: fake name
fake job
fake stupid question for the President

Honestly, I don't know why he doesn't run for leadership of the GOP, he represents their integrity perfectly.


Competition.

img.photobucket.com
 
2013-10-26 01:47:56 AM
Fredrick Douglas was a Republican. And of course he is a racist.

Being anti-collectivist is not racist.

Individual freedom is the answer.
 
2013-10-26 01:54:36 AM
Shenanigans...
 
2013-10-26 01:56:56 AM
upload.wikimedia.org
Shenanigans...
 
2013-10-26 01:58:35 AM

scottydoesntknow: I don't get how you can farking say that after posting an essay titled "America Needs a White Republican President"


It's pretty much the only thing a moron like him can say after posting that.
 
2013-10-26 02:01:24 AM

Bith Set Me Up: Lsherm: hardinparamedic: And why is it that someone who starts of his sentences "I'm not racist, but.." inevitably ends up coming off as a huge one?

It really doesn't matter what descriptor you use, you'll always come off as the person you are claiming you aren't, because people's ears perk up the minute they hear it.  It's a dog whistle.

If someone says "I'm not gay, but those are nice shoes" - everyone is going to think that guy is gay.  However, it only works for pejorative connotations.  You cannot say "I'm not a mechanic, but that noise reducer thingy is making a clangy bang" and expect someone to think you're a mechanic.  It just doesn't work that way.

Just like when a girl says "It's not you, it's me..." means that it IS you.

Seriously, though,

[tng.trekcore.com image 850x638]

Go the fark away, "Joe".


I had to work really hard at coming up with that stupid example.  I'm not a rocket scientist, but typing Fark are hard.
 
2013-10-26 02:15:06 AM

SauronWasFramed: mrshowrules: fake name
fake job
fake stupid question for the President

Honestly, I don't know why he doesn't run for leadership of the GOP, he represents their integrity perfectly.

yet he was given a royal anal exam by the left because obama answered his question honestly.

/his driver's license was made public, that he was a plumber apprentice was made public.  why?  because the left seethed at his nerve to ask a stupid question to a faker candidate.

/lesson learned?  Unless you want people digging through your garbage for 5 weeks, you had better not question a democrat unless it is "boxers or briefs".

//had the media and rabid leftist let this guy alone, he would not be a news item today, would he.  but they had to teach the proletariat minions a lesson, didn't they.


No, his royal anal exam was given after McCain/Palin made him their mouthbreathing mascot. They name checked him in speeches for days and even took his show on the road with them. You're trying to rewrite history. The history of Joe the plumber.
 
2013-10-26 02:18:08 AM

TheShavingofOccam123: He's speaking to the brown people, the black people, the red people and the yellow people. He's trying to convince them that both parties are racist...SO VOTE REPUBLICAN!!1!


See, I am Plumber Joe
And I'm here to say hello
To the black, the white, the red and the brown, the purple and yellow
But first I gotta herp herp the derpy to the derpy
Say up jump the derpy to the herp herp derpy
Let's shock, you don't stop
 
2013-10-26 02:28:04 AM
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The derp is dangerous," she said, "but it gives herp. We derp down so many avenues of the past . . .  Yet, there's a herp where no derpsayer can say. We are repelled by it, terrorized. It is said a man will come one day and find in the gift of the derp in his inward eye. He will herp where we cannot."
"Your Kwisatz Wurzelbach?"
"Yes, the one who can herp many derps at the black ones: the Kwisatz Wurzelbach. Many men have tried the derp . . . so many, but none has succeeded."
"They tried and failed, all of them?"
"Oh, no." She shook her head. "They tried and died."

www.freakingnews.com

Joe'Dib bent down, and picked himself up by his jackboot straps. "Challenge accepted."
 
2013-10-26 02:31:17 AM

Phil Moskowitz: I remember a day when dumb Americans were embarrassed about how stupid they were and they kept their mouth shut.


Huh. You know, I'm kind of having trouble remembering which day that was.
 
2013-10-26 02:31:36 AM

Marcus Aurelius: "Unquestionably white Democrats are the most racist people I've ever met, and they have infected black Democrats. The irony is that black Democrats will one day realize the racism from their white handlers and, blacks will bite the hand that feeds them. Unfortunately America will likely be bankrupt when it happens"

I don't even know where to begin with that statement.


Every idiot that ever was, is firmly convinced that everything will all be sweetness and light once the whole world sees the light and starts thinking *Just* *Like* *Them*.
 
2013-10-26 02:37:16 AM

sugardave: fusillade762:

The thing everyone, including Subby, is missing is it WASN'T JOE THE DUMBASS WHO SAID IT.

Too late, it's fact now!  HAHAHAHA, suck on it Teabaggers!


Nope. Doesn't matter what color the author is. The statement was still racist and Joe the Moron is racist for putting it up, whether he wrote it or not.
 
2013-10-26 02:41:20 AM
He has a point.  How many Democrats believe that blacks cannot compete with whites on a level playing field?  It's all about affirmative action and quotas as though the color of your skin actually matter if you're capable of doing the job or not.  Soft racism of low expectations is still racism.
 
2013-10-26 02:49:08 AM
It's been FIVE GOD DAMN YEARS since this skinhead deadbeat got lucky in front of a news camera! How much longer must we put up with his sh*t?!
 
2013-10-26 03:00:49 AM
Can we add this guy to the list of people we collectively ignore? It's clear that this nitwit has nothin to add to any conversation about anything.
 
2013-10-26 03:02:59 AM

Smeggy Smurf: It's all about affirmative action and quotas as though the color of your skin actually matter if you're capable of doing the job or not.


White supremacists claim this all the time.  Why is that?
 
2013-10-26 03:06:38 AM

spaten: Fredrick Douglas was a Republican. And of course he is a racist.

Being anti-collectivist is not racist.

Individual freedom is the answer.


Yup. And segregationist Strom Thurmond was a Democrat... until LBJ signed the Civil Rights Act. Then he became a Republican. Why is that?
 
2013-10-26 03:14:20 AM
Republicans seem to believe that racism means acknowledging that race exists...
 
2013-10-26 03:21:55 AM

Smeggy Smurf: He has a point.   How many Democrats believe that blacks cannot compete with whites on a level playing field?  It's all about affirmative action and quotas as though the color of your skin actually matter if you're capable of doing the job or not.  Soft racism of low expectations is still racism.


None that I know of.

You do realize the reason why affirmative action programs exist in the first place?

The whole "make systemic racism illegal so there *can* be a level playing field" thing?

"Soft racism of low expectations" is a RW canard that's been around for a while now.

A slight improvement over the "Democrat plantation" rhetoric marginally in that it doesn't continue to view black folks are some kind of pseudo slaves but it's still an outward projection of their own low view of black folks and as such still a pretty dumb argument to make particularly if the point of the rhetoric is to try to make political inroads.

GOP outreach has a long ways to go before people can start to take it seriously.
 
2013-10-26 03:22:04 AM
Stopped reading at "According to Joe the..."
 
2013-10-26 03:26:30 AM

Hobodeluxe: quatchi: [i293.photobucket.com image 530x576]

Oh dear FSM, apparently posting that "I want a White Republican President" essay by the cray cray black guy got JtP more ink than he's seen in years and now he's gonna ride that crazy train as long as he can.

Am I actually in before "Southern strategy"? Wow. Would not have guessed.


yeah that's a part of history they're trying to revise. that the southern white Dixiecrats all jumped party and took over the GOP. at least the social/culture part of the platform that the .01% need to vote to maintain power.


You know who else like revising history?...

Nina_Hartley's_Ass: quatchi: Oh dear FSM, apparently posting that "I want a White Republican President" essay by the cray cray black guy got JtP more ink than he's seen in years and now he's gonna ride that crazy train as long as he can.

They're The Idiot Defiant Ones.


Lawls! ^_^
 
2013-10-26 03:28:31 AM

Smeggy Smurf: He has a point.  How many Democrats believe that blacks cannot compete with whites on a level playing field?  It's all about affirmative action and quotas as though the color of your skin actually matter if you're capable of doing the job or not.  Soft racism of low expectations is still racism.


Yeah, I think y'all better stick with the voter suppression - your idea of "outreach" is NOT going to fly.
 
2013-10-26 03:35:23 AM

SauronWasFramed: /lesson learned?  Unless you want people digging through your garbage for 5 weeks, you had better not question a democrat unless it is "boxers or briefs".


esg6rzdhdg9i115s.zippykid.netdna-cdn.com
"Neither."
 
2013-10-26 03:37:03 AM

Precious Roy's Horse Dividers: I hate to agree with Joe in any way, but in my little corner of NEPA the local government is largely Democrats and this is the most racist area I have ever lived in. That said, Sam is a major league dickbag, and my experience is with local politics in Pennsyltucky and likely does not reflect the national landscape.


There's some of that in my slice of the NY southern tier (including the racism), but the difference is that there seems to be some kind of Illuminati conspiracy to keep the local Dems in power, because the Republicans are always far more visible and vocal around here and I believe they are in the majority somehow.

From what I've seen over the last five years of living here though, they're both shiat. The area continues to slide due to brain-drain, and I doubt either party can stop it without a miracle.
 
2013-10-26 03:39:51 AM

WizardofToast: Marcus Aurelius: "Unquestionably white Democrats are the most racist people I've ever met, and they have infected black Democrats. The irony is that black Democrats will one day realize the racism from their white handlers and, blacks will bite the hand that feeds them. Unfortunately America will likely be bankrupt when it happens"

I don't even know where to begin with that statement.

Slavery analogy and the implication that black people are stupid. How do you write that and not think "Wait, that's really farking stupid and racist to say."?


I once tried "handling" a black person. He was not amused.
 
2013-10-26 03:44:03 AM

SauronWasFramed: mrshowrules: fake name
fake job
fake stupid question for the President

Honestly, I don't know why he doesn't run for leadership of the GOP, he represents their integrity perfectly.

yet he was given a royal anal exam by the left because obama answered his question honestly.

/his driver's license was made public, that he was a plumber apprentice was made public.  why?  because the left seethed at his nerve to ask a stupid question to a faker candidate.

/lesson learned?  Unless you want people digging through your garbage for 5 weeks, you had better not question a democrat unless it is "boxers or briefs".

//had the media and rabid leftist let this guy alone, he would not be a news item today, would he.  but they had to teach the proletariat minions a lesson, didn't they.


Uh no. The reason he became a news item was because John McCain brought him up 50 bajillion times during the third presidential debate and intentionally used him as a prop for his campaign. The media focus did not come in until after that. But thanks for playing.
 
2013-10-26 03:47:25 AM

the_vegetarian_cannibal: SauronWasFramed: mrshowrules: fake name
fake job
fake stupid question for the President

Honestly, I don't know why he doesn't run for leadership of the GOP, he represents their integrity perfectly.

yet he was given a royal anal exam by the left because obama answered his question honestly.

/his driver's license was made public, that he was a plumber apprentice was made public.  why?  because the left seethed at his nerve to ask a stupid question to a faker candidate.

/lesson learned?  Unless you want people digging through your garbage for 5 weeks, you had better not question a democrat unless it is "boxers or briefs".

//had the media and rabid leftist let this guy alone, he would not be a news item today, would he.  but they had to teach the proletariat minions a lesson, didn't they.

Uh no. The reason he became a news item was because John McCain brought him up 50 bajillion times during the third presidential debate and intentionally used him as a prop for his campaign. The media focus did not come in until after that. But thanks for playing.


Righties are cute when they get embarrassed by the retarded dwarves their "movement" spawns. They get all indignant and pretend that liberals invented them or something.
 
2013-10-26 03:49:36 AM

Smeggy Smurf: He has a point.  How many Democrats believe that blacks cannot compete with whites on a level playing field?  It's all about affirmative action and quotas as though the color of your skin actually matter if you're capable of doing the job or not.  Soft racism of low expectations is still racism.


How about acknowledgement of things which disproportionately affect people of different races? Such as the incarceration rates and sentence lengths of people of different races, the 4th Amendment violations of "stop and frisk", demands for proof of citizenship, high school graduation rates, sentencing differences between powder and rock cocaine, and poverty?

I think he problem is that one side truly believes that there is a "level playing field", the other acknowledges the fact that there are differences and actually works to make it level.
 
2013-10-26 03:52:18 AM

ox45tallboy: Smeggy Smurf: He has a point.  How many Democrats believe that blacks cannot compete with whites on a level playing field?  It's all about affirmative action and quotas as though the color of your skin actually matter if you're capable of doing the job or not.  Soft racism of low expectations is still racism.

How about acknowledgement of things which disproportionately affect people of different races? Such as the incarceration rates and sentence lengths of people of different races, the 4th Amendment violations of "stop and frisk", demands for proof of citizenship, high school graduation rates, sentencing differences between powder and rock cocaine, and poverty?

I think he problem is that one side truly believes that there is a "level playing field", the other acknowledges the fact that there are differences and actually works to make it level.


You can't reason with a person who was born on third base, and whose fragile self-esteem requires that they pretend they hit a triple.
 
2013-10-26 03:58:03 AM

jso2897: ox45tallboy: Smeggy Smurf: He has a point.  How many Democrats believe that blacks cannot compete with whites on a level playing field?  It's all about affirmative action and quotas as though the color of your skin actually matter if you're capable of doing the job or not.  Soft racism of low expectations is still racism.

How about acknowledgement of things which disproportionately affect people of different races? Such as the incarceration rates and sentence lengths of people of different races, the 4th Amendment violations of "stop and frisk", demands for proof of citizenship, high school graduation rates, sentencing differences between powder and rock cocaine, and poverty?

I think he problem is that one side truly believes that there is a "level playing field", the other acknowledges the fact that there are differences and actually works to make it level.

You can't reason with a person who was born on third base, and whose fragile self-esteem requires that they pretend they hit a triple.


And if a person that barely was able to get out of the batters box gets ahead of them, they scream about affirmative action and white oppression.
 
2013-10-26 04:34:09 AM

ongbok: jso2897: ox45tallboy: Smeggy Smurf: He has a point.  How many Democrats believe that blacks cannot compete with whites on a level playing field?  It's all about affirmative action and quotas as though the color of your skin actually matter if you're capable of doing the job or not.  Soft racism of low expectations is still racism.

How about acknowledgement of things which disproportionately affect people of different races? Such as the incarceration rates and sentence lengths of people of different races, the 4th Amendment violations of "stop and frisk", demands for proof of citizenship, high school graduation rates, sentencing differences between powder and rock cocaine, and poverty?

I think he problem is that one side truly believes that there is a "level playing field", the other acknowledges the fact that there are differences and actually works to make it level.

You can't reason with a person who was born on third base, and whose fragile self-esteem requires that they pretend they hit a triple.

And if a person that barely was able to get out of the batters box gets ahead of them, they scream about affirmative action and white oppression.


Just don't call them racist. Because that would be racist, to call them racist.
 
2013-10-26 04:37:25 AM

ox45tallboy: Smeggy Smurf: He has a point.  How many Democrats believe that blacks cannot compete with whites on a level playing field?  It's all about affirmative action and quotas as though the color of your skin actually matter if you're capable of doing the job or not.  Soft racism of low expectations is still racism.

How about acknowledgement of things which disproportionately affect people of different races? Such as the incarceration rates and sentence lengths of people of different races, the 4th Amendment violations of "stop and frisk", demands for proof of citizenship, high school graduation rates, sentencing differences between powder and rock cocaine, and poverty?

I think he problem is that one side truly believes that there is a "level playing field", the other acknowledges the fact that there are differences and actually works to make it level.


I remember a study where they had a black guy and a white guy apply for the same job (or trying to rent an apartment, I forgot which). Their work experience and education were nearly identical, except the white applicant had a farking felony conviction, while the black applicant had a clean record. The white guy STILL got a better response than the black applicant.

That's the "level playing field."
 
2013-10-26 04:45:25 AM

Phil Moskowitz: I remember a day when dumb Americans were embarrassed about how stupid they were and they kept their mouth shut.


...those were the same days where anyone who didn't agree with the white, Christian, male establishment was called stupid...
 
2013-10-26 04:48:41 AM

TV's Vinnie: It's been FIVE GOD DAMN YEARS since this skinhead deadbeat got lucky in front of a news camera! How much longer must we put up with his sh*t?!


As long as he continues to try and take a district gerrymandered from the districts of Marcy Kaptur and Dennis Kucinich.
 
2013-10-26 04:51:33 AM
I handled a black person for a while right after high school. She was very sweet. Liked to bake cookies. Her dad didn't like me though, he said I was a smartass.
 
2013-10-26 05:12:52 AM

the_vegetarian_cannibal: SauronWasFramed: mrshowrules: fake name
fake job
fake stupid question for the President

Honestly, I don't know why he doesn't run for leadership of the GOP, he represents their integrity perfectly.

yet he was given a royal anal exam by the left because obama answered his question honestly.

/his driver's license was made public, that he was a plumber apprentice was made public.  why?  because the left seethed at his nerve to ask a stupid question to a faker candidate.

/lesson learned?  Unless you want people digging through your garbage for 5 weeks, you had better not question a democrat unless it is "boxers or briefs".

//had the media and rabid leftist let this guy alone, he would not be a news item today, would he.  but they had to teach the proletariat minions a lesson, didn't they.

Uh no. The reason he became a news item was because John McCain brought him up 50 bajillion times during the third presidential debate and intentionally used him as a prop for his campaign. The media focus did not come in until after that. But thanks for playing.


This. You don't get to lie to folks, invent characters and 'facts' to fit your narrative that you know is completely devoid of any basis in reality, and then get pissy when folks look at you and go 'wow no farking partof that whatsoever was true'
 
2013-10-26 05:13:05 AM
Obvious Tag is somehow absent.
 
2013-10-26 05:55:27 AM
Well it is true that places like Boston and Philly are probably more racist than places like Dallas and Atlanta, but then again those are all Democratic cities. It does annoy me that people somehow think racism is relegated to only the south when that is far from true. That is of course not what this dummy is thinking but to me it is an important issue in the US. I feel some folks in the North and West use the South to deflect from their own racial problems at times.
 
2013-10-26 06:07:07 AM

TheJoe03: Well it is true that places like Boston and Philly are probably more racist than places like Dallas and Atlanta, but then again those are all Democratic cities. It does annoy me that people somehow think racism is relegated to only the south when that is far from true. That is of course not what this dummy is thinking but to me it is an important issue in the US. I feel some folks in the North and West use the South to deflect from their own racial problems at times.


Both the North and South have racism but they handle and express it in different ways. Having lived in both regions for many years, I can honestly say that the old adage, "Northern whites don't mind blacks being uppity as long as they don't live nearby, Southern whites don't mind blacks living nearby as long as they aren't uppity" really rings true.
 
2013-10-26 06:08:37 AM
Being a white democrat, I'm glad he thinks this is true because that's pretty strong evidence that it isn't.

\disclaimer:  I'm actually a registered republican.  I wanted to vote against Bob Dole twice.
\\ get off my lawn
 
2013-10-26 06:16:18 AM

the_vegetarian_cannibal: "Northern whites don't mind blacks being uppity as long as they don't live nearby, Southern whites don't mind blacks living nearby as long as they aren't uppity" really rings true.


Exactly right. From my experience, Northern and Western whites like the concept of black people but not the reality, while Southern whites hate the concept of black people but not the reality. This is a generalization of course, but I'm a brown guy that has lived in Texan and then California, and this is what I've observed.

Though this goes beyond just black and white of course, but that is the racial conversation STILL in this country, which to me is kind of silly. Latinos, Asians, and others are a factor that the society at large seems to ignore racially. Patrice O'Neal said it perfectly when he said it will always be black vs white in this country and the other ethnic and racial groups pick a side, at least now they do.
 
2013-10-26 06:50:47 AM

TheJoe03: Though this goes beyond just black and white of course, but that is the racial conversation STILL in this country, which to me is kind of silly. Latinos, Asians, and others are a factor that the society at large seems to ignore racially.


Because the black demographic was the only one that was ever intentionally institutionally oppressed.  The various south/central american immigrants and Asian immigrants are just going through exactly the same shiat that every immigrant to the US, ever, has gone through... basically coming here because they're poor, spending a generation or two working up from poverty and semi-self-segregating, then gradually integrating into the main-stream of the culture.

"Black" immigrant families frequently come from lines that didn't come here willingly in the first place, were actually a  legally separate social class for a century or so, and then maintained a strong total segregation for another century.  It's a fundamentally different situation... we know the issue of 'latino' and Asian immigrants will work itself out because it's worked out the last 500 times it happened, but the US has only had a population shift from second-class to full citizenship once in its history so we're understandably more concerned about how that's working out.

//And extra concerned because it initially  didn't work out, ten or twenty waves of immigrants joined into the main-stream culture between reconstruction and the actual reintegration of black populations.  We've only been doing it right for about four decades, so uncertainty makes sense.
 
2013-10-26 06:58:30 AM
Did he mention that it's because they are race traitors? Because I think that really finishes the thought for him.
 
2013-10-26 07:03:34 AM

Jim_Callahan: "Black" immigrant families frequently come from lines that didn't come here willingly in the first place, were actually a  legally separate social class for a century or so, and then maintained a strong total segregation for another century.  It's a fundamentally different situation... we know the issue of 'latino' and Asian immigrants will work itself out because it's worked out the last 500 times it happened, but the US has only had a population shift from second-class to full citizenship once in its history so we're understandably more concerned about how that's working out.


I totally understand that but my point is it still seems a bit strange that we still are "black vs white" when there are so many different ethnic and racial groups at play. We live in 2013 and we can't ignore our new demographics entirely based on history, and that seems to be happening whenever we get into racial discussions. Like I said (through Patrice) it will long be black vs white but we need to factor everyone else in in this day and age to have a substantial racial/ethnic discussion in this country.

/Also, let's not act like Latino and Asian racial issues are new, they have been around since at least the 1800s.
 
2013-10-26 07:07:48 AM

Marcus Aurelius: "Unquestionably white Democrats are the most racist people I've ever met, and they have infected black Democrats. The irony is that black Democrats will one day realize the racism from their white handlers and, blacks will bite the hand that feeds them. Unfortunately America will likely be bankrupt when it happens"

I don't even know where to begin with that statement.


i.imgur.com

You don't wrestle with a pig, you don't play chess with a pigeon and you don't argue with a moran.
 
2013-10-26 07:13:35 AM

Jim_Callahan: The various south/central american immigrants and Asian immigrants are just going through exactly the same shiat that every immigrant to the US, ever, has gone through


I'd also like to add that you can't really compare to Latin American and Asian immigrants that much with people like Italians and Irish based on the fact they aren't European and/or Christian. European immigrants that used to be treated poorly eventually were accepted as part of the "white Christian race" but that doesn't apply to immigrants from outside of Europe. That isn't something easily ignored when it comes to racism in America.
 
2013-10-26 07:17:59 AM
Democrats are the real racists, so vote* Republican?

Good luck with that.


*(if you can vote, what with all the new voter restriction laws the Democrats have been passing lately)
 
2013-10-26 07:27:33 AM

hardinparamedic: Why is it that the best argument against the existence of the Master Race are the people who claim to be it's shining examples?

And why is it that someone who starts of his sentences "I'm not racist, but.." inevitably ends up coming off as a huge one?


www.jlroberson.org
 
2013-10-26 07:33:29 AM
My lineage has a history of freeing this farking country from the british.

fark off joe.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel_Putnam

Yes. This guy is really a blood relative of mine. like, 15 generations removed from me, but still. Genealogy is cool.
 
2013-10-26 07:35:22 AM

TheJoe03: Jim_Callahan: "Black" immigrant families frequently come from lines that didn't come here willingly in the first place, were actually a  legally separate social class for a century or so, and then maintained a strong total segregation for another century.  It's a fundamentally different situation... we know the issue of 'latino' and Asian immigrants will work itself out because it's worked out the last 500 times it happened, but the US has only had a population shift from second-class to full citizenship once in its history so we're understandably more concerned about how that's working out.

I totally understand that but my point is it still seems a bit strange that we still are "black vs white" when there are so many different ethnic and racial groups at play. We live in 2013 and we can't ignore our new demographics entirely based on history, and that seems to be happening whenever we get into racial discussions. Like I said (through Patrice) it will long be black vs white but we need to factor everyone else in in this day and age to have a substantial racial/ethnic discussion in this country.

/Also, let's not act like Latino and Asian racial issues are new, they have been around since at least the 1800s.


Trading on the politics of "The Other" isn't exactly new. These folks ain't like "us" and they want totally different things, and they live totally different, and their ways are strange and smelly. Has been a feature of American politics for a long while. Be it the Irish. Be it the Puerto Ricans. Be in the Japanese or Chinese, or even Vietnamese waves of immigration. Be it the Cubans. The Mexican waves of immigration, that have been oddly enough, been sort of an issue since pretty much their inception as a nation, and our own territories butting up against them.

What is odd about this conversation, is the blistering denial by some of the effects of policy that some advocate. Policies designed to limit the voting franchise, impact communities with racially based profiling, even which drugs are scheduled higher based on what the drug of choice is in those communities, and yet, when it comes time that we need troops, we suddenly expect folks who are seeing some shenanigans thrown at their communities, to step up, and fight for a nation that keeps throwing them curve balls, and thank us for the effort.

It's NOT about black or white--let's face it, most of the racists in this country, favor their own ethnicity over ALL others. Be they black. Be they white. Be they yellow--and in all honesty, my Japanese-American brethren and sistren, some ARE some brilliantly twisted sorts of racist, and that goes against OTHER yellow folks too. Be they brown. The difficulty is, that we have a lot of folks who simply want to chuck the Zoot Suit riots down the memory hole, who want to chuck the Japanese Internment down the memory hole. Who want to chuck...well, the bulk of the African-American experience down the memory hole. Because it's inconvenient. And because folks are beginning to ken that by about 2030 white folks in this country will no longer be 50% of the population. Still the most populace, but black, brown, and all the other colors will outnumber pale Americans. And that scares the bejeebus out of some folks. Because "The Other" is a powerful motivator for fear, and at the same time, it ignores that this is a nation of immigrants. From all over the world. Not just Europe. And the issue of "The Other" boils down to "Us" vs "Them" and that is easy to tap fear from. The issue is that there are folks who like to tap that fear. Because it short circuits reason, and gets down to the shambling primate brain, that sees rivals move into their hunting territory, and see rivals.

We have issues not just with fear, but the folks who want to trade on that fear, but really want to do so without ever being called on tapping into that fear. You can't dance with the Devil and then say you were only playing at it.
 
2013-10-26 07:42:22 AM
www.animated-gifs.eu
 
2013-10-26 07:42:28 AM
hardinparamedic:

And why is it that someone who starts of his sentences "I'm not racist, but.." inevitably ends up coming off as a huge one?

Now I'm not one to enjoy being fed bacon and whiskey by hookers, but....
 
2013-10-26 07:56:47 AM

hubiestubert: We have issues not just with fear, but the folks who want to trade on that fear, but really want to do so without ever being called on tapping into that fear. You can't dance with the Devil and then say you were only playing at it.


Politics 101 it seems, sad to see so many regular folks fall for it. Great post on your part, it was much needed.
 
2013-10-26 07:59:20 AM
Joe the plumber must be reading some Alinsky. If you can't bet 'em, join 'em.
 
2013-10-26 08:08:42 AM

Mambo Bananapatch: Phil Moskowitz: I remember a day when dumb Americans were embarrassed about how stupid they were and they kept their mouth shut.

Huh. You know, I'm kind of having trouble remembering which day that was.


It was a Thursday, if that helps at all?
 
2013-10-26 08:10:18 AM
Yeah, Democrats of THAT race are TOTALLY racist!

"Myself and a few other conservatives will not allow the left to continue setting the narrative. Racism is wrong on so many levels and when political parties use it as a weapon they aren't fighting racism they are encouraging it."

The cognitive dissonance is deafening.

[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democratic_Party_%28United_States%29#B lac k_Americans] ; "African Americans began drifting to the Democratic Party, as Franklin Roosevelt's New Deal programs gave economic relief to all minorities, including African Americans and Hispanics. Support for the Civil Rights Movement in the 1960s by Democratic presidents John F. Kennedy and Lyndon B. Johnson helped give the Democrats even larger support among the African-American community, which consistently vote between 85-95% Democratic."


"...black Democrats will one day realize the racism from their white handlers and, blacks will bite the hand that feeds them."   Yeah, when are those black people going to wake up?
 
2013-10-26 08:13:06 AM

Precious Roy's Horse Dividers: I hate to agree with Joe in any way, but in my little corner of NEPA the local government is largely Democrats and this is the most racist area I have ever lived in. That said, Sam is a major league dickbag, and my experience is with local politics in Pennsyltucky and likely does not reflect the national landscape.


Is Kathmand the capital of NEPA?
 
2013-10-26 08:13:20 AM

badhatharry: Alinsky


Oh, wow - I thought we'd lost that one with the witless protection alt.

DRINK!
 
2013-10-26 08:16:11 AM

JRoo: Yeah, Democrats of THAT race are TOTALLY racist!

"Myself and a few other conservatives will not allow the left to continue setting the narrative. Racism is wrong on so many levels and when political parties use it as a weapon they aren't fighting racism they are encouraging it."

The cognitive dissonance is deafening.

[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democratic_Party_%28United_States%29#B lac k_Americans] ; "African Americans began drifting to the Democratic Party, as Franklin Roosevelt's New Deal programs gave economic relief to all minorities, including African Americans and Hispanics. Support for the Civil Rights Movement in the 1960s by Democratic presidents John F. Kennedy and Lyndon B. Johnson helped give the Democrats even larger support among the African-American community, which consistently vote between 85-95% Democratic."


"...black Democrats will one day realize the racism from their white handlers and, blacks will bite the hand that feeds them."   Yeah, when are those black people going to wake up?


I do wish the black communities would hold their politicians' feet to the fire over the Drug War.  That's perhaps the last aspect of institutional racism on the national level.
 
2013-10-26 08:18:44 AM

UNC_Samurai: badhatharry: Alinsky

Oh, wow - I thought we'd lost that one with the witless protection alt.

DRINK!


Reference to a drinking game!

DRINK!

haha, this is fun
 
2013-10-26 08:21:28 AM

vernonFL: Martin Luther King, Jr. was a Republican.

Jesse Helms is President of the Confederate States of Real America.


Sure MLK was a Republican. That's why J. Edgar Hoover spied and tracked him for being a communist. Or a Kenyan. Or a muslim. Or whatever. Anyway, he surely was pro-freedom and only thing he said sbout voting was "end Jim Crow" so that blacks COULD exercise the right to vote.
 
2013-10-26 08:24:44 AM
Is Joe the Plumber a scandal yet?
 
2013-10-26 08:32:25 AM

jso2897: Smeggy Smurf: He has a point.  How many Democrats believe that blacks cannot compete with whites on a level playing field?  It's all about affirmative action and quotas as though the color of your skin actually matter if you're capable of doing the job or not.  Soft racism of low expectations is still racism.

Yeah, I think y'all better stick with the voter suppression - your idea of "outreach" is NOT going to fly.


I think that Republican "outreach" is intended primarily to soothe people in their own camp.  Republicans, like Democrats, hold various shades of opinions on race (or gender or sexual orientation).  There are some who would like to literaly hunt "blacks and liberals."  There are some who believe that poverty and crime among American blacks is due purely to Johnson's policies, the "Democrat plantation."  There are some who would like to prevent all brown people from voting.

There are also many who do not hold these views, even if they're still convinced about the whole "Obama gives free stuff to brown people so they vote for him" thing, or a somewhat milder form of this ("we have a spending problem!" that ignores corporate giveaways, social security and "defense" spending, for example).

I doubt that many of the people crafting Republican "outreach" believe it will convince many people who aren't already in the GOP camp.  In fact, I doubt that many of the people crafting those policies want people outside the camp to join.
 
2013-10-26 08:34:48 AM

badhatharry: Is Joe the Plumber a scandal yet?


I don't know. Let's waste hundreds of millions of dollars having congressional hearing after hearing on it.
 
2013-10-26 08:35:45 AM
[READS ARTICLE]

Joe the Plumber's projector is powered by dilithium crystals.
 
2013-10-26 08:36:06 AM

Kibbler: I think that Republican "outreach" is intended primarily to soothe people in their own camp.  Republicans, like Democrats, hold various shades of opinions on race (or gender or sexual orientation).  There are some who would like to literaly hunt "blacks and liberals."  There are some who believe that poverty and crime among American blacks is due purely to Johnson's policies, the "Democrat plantation."  There are some who would like to prevent all brown people from voting.


The Dominionists and the Mega-Churchers have also poisoned the well on poverty.  The Prosperity Gospel says God wants you to be rich and wealth is a sign you're doing something right.  The flip side of that is, poverty is viewed as a symptom of moral failings, not a cause.  Poor people are poor because they're terrible people, and justifies the "they're moochers" mindset.
 
2013-10-26 08:42:26 AM

what_now: Marcus Aurelius: "Unquestionably white Democrats are the most racist people I've ever met, and they have infected black Democrats. The irony is that black Democrats will one day realize the racism from their white handlers and, blacks will bite the hand that feeds them. Unfortunately America will likely be bankrupt when it happens"

I don't even know where to begin with that statement.


It's a real shame how Democrats are convincing people to vote against their own interests.
 
2013-10-26 08:44:12 AM
If you  think affirmative action should continue forever then yes you are a racist.  It's what you are.  Get used to it, admit it, accept it.
 
2013-10-26 08:50:20 AM
FTFA: "I have heard more racist thing out of liberal progressives then I have out of conservatives. I'm tired of the media giving them a pass," Wurzelbacher wrote.

There must be a lot of examples of the racist things liberals say, since he's heard so many of them.
Funny how he never gives any, since he hears them so much.
 
2013-10-26 08:50:28 AM
According to Democrats, Lincoln freed the slaves, and was not a part of destroying states rights. So let's go with that. What party was Lincoln a part of again? You cant have it both ways.
 
2013-10-26 08:51:49 AM

UNC_Samurai: badhatharry: Alinsky

Oh, wow - I thought we'd lost that one with the witless protection alt.

DRINK!


This guy isn't a troll, he's just honestly stupid.
 
2013-10-26 08:52:38 AM

UNC_Samurai: Kibbler: I think that Republican "outreach" is intended primarily to soothe people in their own camp.  Republicans, like Democrats, hold various shades of opinions on race (or gender or sexual orientation).  There are some who would like to literaly hunt "blacks and liberals."  There are some who believe that poverty and crime among American blacks is due purely to Johnson's policies, the "Democrat plantation."  There are some who would like to prevent all brown people from voting.

The Dominionists and the Mega-Churchers have also poisoned the well on poverty.  The Prosperity Gospel says God wants you to be rich and wealth is a sign you're doing something right.  The flip side of that is, poverty is viewed as a symptom of moral failings, not a cause.  Poor people are poor because they're terrible people, and justifies the "they're moochers" mindset.


The converse seems to be the notion that poor people are entitled to permanent assistance, which only encourages them to continue in that state.
  When you're talking about absolute necessities like food, water, heat, and sanitation, that makes sense if you can do it within the available means..
The Democratic Party has reached the point though where that's not good enough.  Now they want to give everybody free cell phones, free health care, and free money.  They want to give necessities to people who don't really need them also, who could afford to pay for them.

That's because the Democrats aren't really about fulfilling basic necessities.  What they're about is buying as many votes as possible, and it doesn't matter to them if it degrades a man's self respect and capability to support himself and degrades the family structure by encouraging single motherhood.  None of that matters the slightest to Democrats if they can get your vote.

Racist?  In effect yes because it disproportionately affects blacks.  A better word might be "parasitic" because the party has become a parasite feeding on the corpse of America's economic prosperity.
 
2013-10-26 08:53:55 AM
Black people are the most politically astute voting class in the U.S. today and voting as a block for Democrats is just proof of that.  Unlike Whites who are financially similarly situated, you will almost never see Black voters tricked into voting for a party due to asinine and unimportant issues like gay marriage, abortion or feminism. But poor and middle-class Whites fall for those distractions all the time.  While Democrats have not always lived up to their promises of greater economic equality, they are a damn sight better than the Republicans. The Black voting population knows that voting for Republicans is exactly like a chicken voting for KFC and it pisses the Republicans off.  IF only Black voters could be tricked by distractions as easily as Whites, the Republicans would have a lock.
 
2013-10-26 08:53:59 AM
Remember, being poor kicks ASS!
 
2013-10-26 08:56:49 AM
The message, not the messenger, requires a bit of examination.  Policies promoted by Democrats, black or white, have had unintended consequences, just as those promoted by Republicans, white or old.  But there have always been those who claim that the policies unintended consequences were the real goal in the first place - be they dependence on government entitlements or dependence on quotas to get through life.

The problem with long term execution of those policies that are enacted to achieve an outcome for progressive improvement (for example, minority representation in college population) don't always have a sunset transition plan - in other words, how do you objectively wind down racial preferences in college?  How is success measured and policy gradually allowed to terminate?

It's also not unfair to look at the way that politicians use those policies to remain in power - "What has the other Party ever REALLY done for you?"  The fact is, however, that almost any institution can be used improperly - those policies that are meant to provide the "safety net" are usually used to protect the most poor from the worst conditions, but there are some who will settle for the worst.  The answer lies within - and that question is usually worth asking but the answer is going to be different from every person.

Which is why a valid question, in the hands of a stupid person, is an unintended consequence of "Freedom of Speech".
 
2013-10-26 09:01:20 AM
Welfare=racism in theses people's minds. But only when blacks receive welfare. When whites receive welfare it's because they are going through a difficult time right now and GET YOUR HANDS OFF MY MEDICARE!!!!
 
2013-10-26 09:01:34 AM
I love the Republican outreach programs
 
2013-10-26 09:02:00 AM

Marcus Aurelius: "Unquestionably white Democrats are the most racist people I've ever met, and they have infected black Democrats. The irony is that black Democrats will one day realize the racism from their white handlers and, blacks will bite the hand that feeds them. Unfortunately America will likely be bankrupt when it happens"

I don't even know where to begin with that statement.


I would begin by flushing, then washing my hands thoroughly.
 
2013-10-26 09:05:50 AM

badhatharry: Is Joe the Plumber a scandal yet?


No. Just a predictably dumb GOP shill.
 
2013-10-26 09:06:13 AM

Phil Moskowitz: I remember a day when dumb Americans were embarrassed about how stupid they were and they kept their mouth shut.


I remember a day when dumb Americans weren't rewarded for their staggering stupidity and didn't receive fame and money for spouting off their ramblings.

Or at least had to resort to an alt on message boards or the editorial page of the paper.
 
2013-10-26 09:06:24 AM
This is another problem with GOP/"Conservative" minority outreach.  Reasoning that the Republican party is the best political party for blacks to support because Democrats lynched people 60+ years ago while promoting policies today which disenfranchises them, eliminates education opportunities, reduces access to healthcare, and create conditions where the poorest of the poor are denied food; is not the best way to endear yourself to the African American community.  It ignores a LOT of history since then, which makes "Conservatives" come across as condescending.  It also insinuates that the African American community are "lazy" as a whole and the only thing that is "keeping them down" is they have it too good because of welfare; which makes "Conservatives" come across as arrogant, hateful, and as jerks who are clueless to the plight of the African American community.
 
2013-10-26 09:12:07 AM
The paternalistic way libtards treat minorities (who aren't South/East Asian) is rather racist.

So's the DEY COME OVER TEH BORDERS AND TAKE ARR JERBS shiat on the right.

Both sides just use the race thing to their advantage whenever possible.
 
2013-10-26 09:14:40 AM
www.mintpress.net
Hey y'all, what's going on in this thread?
 
2013-10-26 09:17:31 AM

born_yesterday: UNC_Samurai: badhatharry: Alinsky

Oh, wow - I thought we'd lost that one with the witless protection alt.

DRINK!

This guy isn't a troll, he's just honestly stupid.


Personal attack!

DRINK!
 
2013-10-26 09:19:24 AM

hardinparamedic: Gecko Gingrich: Well, to be fair, Southern Democrats are Democrats.

Not since 1964.


simplicimus: Yes, but the old southern democrats all became republicans in 1968. And they were only democrats before that because Lincoln was a republican.


There are still plenty of Southern Democrats around. Look at NC, or closer to home for me, St. Mary's County in MD.
 
2013-10-26 09:21:15 AM

blue_2501: Please quit calling this guy a plumber!



Joe the plummeted.
Joe the plumper.
Joe the plumtard.
 
2013-10-26 09:23:45 AM

fenianfark: [www.mintpress.net image 690x389]
Hey y'all, what's going on in this thread?


Soooooo... tired.....

noorslist.files.wordpress.com
 
2013-10-26 09:25:42 AM
Great now I want fried chicken and waffles.
 
2013-10-26 09:26:01 AM
media.tumblr.com

//everyone's a bigot. It's taught. Whether you embrace or reject it is the question.
 
2013-10-26 09:30:47 AM

born_yesterday: UNC_Samurai: badhatharry: Alinsky

Oh, wow - I thought we'd lost that one with the witless protection alt.

DRINK!

This guy isn't a troll, he's just honestly stupid.



In case you actually don't know what is going on.
http://www.nationalcenter.org/P21PR-Tea_Party_Racism_072910.html
 
2013-10-26 09:48:30 AM
Actually the racist roots of Prohibition had the Republican party introducing the Volstead Act, to keep those immigrants and Irish and blacks and browns from drinking since they couldn't handle their liquor.

That solved, it got lots of Democrats elected a few years later. Now weed is the demon because of its association with the blacks and the browns and the intellectuals.

Even more, Joe the plumber's wife says he doesn't.
 
2013-10-26 09:49:43 AM

badhatharry: born_yesterday: UNC_Samurai: badhatharry: Alinsky

Oh, wow - I thought we'd lost that one with the witless protection alt.

DRINK!

This guy isn't a troll, he's just honestly stupid.


In case you actually don't know what is going on.
http://www.nationalcenter.org/P21PR-Tea_Party_Racism_072910.html


"There is no evidence that tea party adherents are any more racist than other Republicans, and indeed many other Americans."

This is probably true. And it in no way reflects well on the Tea Party, the GOP, or "many Americans." It most certainly does zilch to bolster the legitimacy, or in fact the non-potato status, of "Joe" the "Plumber." And, frankly, it reflects poorly on you for not realizing that.
 
2013-10-26 09:51:41 AM
If you want to see racism, be a minority that disagrees with a liberal.

If you want to see sexism, be a female that disagrees with a liberal.

If you want to see homophobia, be a homosexual that disagrees with a liberal.

If you want to see liberals melt down in to a massive ball of bigotry? Be any combination of the above.
 
2013-10-26 10:03:51 AM

snowshovel: According to Democrats, Lincoln freed the slaves, and was not a part of destroying states rights. So let's go with that. What party was Lincoln a part of again? You cant have it both ways.


Yes, because in the ensuing 150 years, no party in this country could possibly ever change stances on anything, much less adopt a 100% polar opposite position.

Are you really this dumb?
 
2013-10-26 10:10:51 AM

blue_2501: Please quit calling this guy a plumber!


And his name isn't Joe either.  So from here on out we'll just refer to him as "the."
 
2013-10-26 10:16:47 AM

Mambo Bananapatch: Phil Moskowitz: I remember a day when dumb Americans were embarrassed about how stupid they were and they kept their mouth shut.

Huh. You know, I'm kind of having trouble remembering which day that was.


it was a tuesday in March some years ago
it was a quiet day that began with birdsong and a soft breeze from the east
at noon, the town squares all over the nation were filled with the gentle rustle of leaves (oak, elm, pine) and the sounds of children laughing at recess could be heard
by dusk, the crickets began chirping and, as the mingled scents of cooking drifted through open windows you could heard the soft strains of lover's voices, the gentle recitation of homework drills, and the faint clink of after-supper cocktails.

it was a pretty nice day
 
2013-10-26 10:18:21 AM
If you want to sing out, sing out

If you want to be free, be free

If you want to live high, live high

If you want to live low, live low

If you want to say yes, say yes

If you want to say no, say no

If you want to be me, be me

If you want to be you, be you
 
2013-10-26 10:19:27 AM
hubiestubert:

What he said.
 
2013-10-26 10:22:41 AM

StopLurkListen: Schmegicky: Phil Moskowitz: I remember a day when dumb Americans were embarrassed about how stupid they were and they kept their mouth shut.

[upload.wikimedia.org image 311x237]

Sa-lute!

[eatpreyhate.files.wordpress.com image 500x343]


Say what you want about He-Haw, but they had some really good musicians on that show.

/And some hot women
 
2013-10-26 10:23:36 AM

jso2897: ongbok: jso2897: ox45tallboy: Smeggy Smurf: He has a point.  How many Democrats believe that blacks cannot compete with whites on a level playing field?  It's all about affirmative action and quotas as though the color of your skin actually matter if you're capable of doing the job or not.  Soft racism of low expectations is still racism.

How about acknowledgement of things which disproportionately affect people of different races? Such as the incarceration rates and sentence lengths of people of different races, the 4th Amendment violations of "stop and frisk", demands for proof of citizenship, high school graduation rates, sentencing differences between powder and rock cocaine, and poverty?

I think he problem is that one side truly believes that there is a "level playing field", the other acknowledges the fact that there are differences and actually works to make it level.

You can't reason with a person who was born on third base, and whose fragile self-esteem requires that they pretend they hit a triple.

And if a person that barely was able to get out of the batters box gets ahead of them, they scream about affirmative action and white oppression.

Just don't call them racist. Because that would be racist, to call them racist.


This is the same syndrome when it comes to wages/wealth
Just don't point it out or you are fomenting "class warfare" and encouraging sloth
 
2013-10-26 10:28:23 AM

spaten: Fredrick Douglas was a Republican. And of course he is a racist.

Being anti-collectivist is not racist.

Individual freedom is the answer.


Please, "go Galt" and see how long you last.
 
2013-10-26 10:33:00 AM
This is just my opinion but I think what really "lost" the "shut down" argument in the court of public opinion for the political right was this guy:
thenewcivilrightsmovement.com
Without saying anything about what this guy's intentions were, no matter how innocent and "heritage not hate"/states' rightsy he meant it to be; the symbolism it gave was not good at all. It reflected bad on him and all associated with it. Even the national veterans' group that organized the nationwide demonstrations denounced it, saying it was usurped by political activists for their own agendas.

It really doesn't matter how non-racist the political right are in reality, and it might be true that the reason they didn't see the racism in it was due to them being so "non-racist". Unfortunately the image it portrays due to American history and what it is associated with to less educated non-conservative Americans who are still subconsciously "racist"; you would expect a political movement so centered around "symbolism" to be more aware of such matters.

This type of "symbolism" plays right into the "propaganda" of those who claim racist motivations behind "conservative" (especially Tea Party) politics.  Just maybe the political right might want to be a little more sensitive to these matters than "in your face" about it. You know the same things they ask from the minorities they "outreach" to in meeting them half way.
 
2013-10-26 10:33:39 AM
How many racist attacks have been committed by Tea Party members?

scottydoesntknow: I don't get how you can farking say that after posting an essay titled "America Needs a White Republican President"


He was trolling you. His argument in it is that America has made Obama completely blameless for everything and anyone who does blame him for anything is derided as racist. Unlike when we had white Republican president and gas being too high (above $2/gal) was entirely his fault. Hell, the gov't shutdown of 2013 is still Bush's fault.
 
2013-10-26 10:39:49 AM

Phil Moskowitz: I remember a day when dumb Americans were embarrassed about how stupid they were and they kept their mouth shut.


I don't think it was that as much as the fact that no one would pay attention to them.
the media wouldn't cover them.
they certainly wouldn't get support from the political parties.

now they're put on pedestals and the moron brigade salutes them.
 
2013-10-26 10:40:28 AM

SauronWasFramed: /lesson learned? Unless you want people digging through your garbage for 5 weeks, you had better not question a democrat unless it is "boxers or briefs".


leftistmoon.wordpress.com
"Go fark yourself, dude"
 
2013-10-26 10:42:23 AM

Mrbogey: How many racist attacks have been committed by Tea Party members?


1. You're a moron.


Mrbogey: He was trolling you. His argument in it is that America has made Obama completely blameless for everything and anyone who does blame him for anything is derided as racist. Unlike when we had white Republican president and gas being too high (above $2/gal) was entirely his fault. Hell, the gov't shutdown of 2013 is still Bush's fault.


2. You're still a moron.

Next question, please.
 
2013-10-26 10:42:54 AM

heavymetal: This is just my opinion but I think what really "lost" the "shut down" argument in the court of public opinion for the political right was this guy:
[thenewcivilrightsmovement.com image 500x220]
Without saying anything about what this guy's intentions were, no matter how innocent and "heritage not hate"/states' rightsy he meant it to be; the symbolism it gave was not good at all. It reflected bad on him and all associated with it. Even the national veterans' group that organized the nationwide demonstrations denounced it, saying it was usurped by political activists for their own agendas.

It really doesn't matter how non-racist the political right are in reality, and it might be true that the reason they didn't see the racism in it was due to them being so "non-racist". Unfortunately the image it portrays due to American history and what it is associated with to less educated non-conservative Americans who are still subconsciously "racist"; you would expect a political movement so centered around "symbolism" to be more aware of such matters.

This type of "symbolism" plays right into the "propaganda" of those who claim racist motivations behind "conservative" (especially Tea Party) politics.  Just maybe the political right might want to be a little more sensitive to these matters than "in your face" about it. You know the same things they ask from the minorities they "outreach" to in meeting them half way.


The Tea Party hasn't learned that the majority of Americans are just farking stupid. They need to get better at politics.
 
2013-10-26 10:43:30 AM

Animatronik: A better word might be "parasitic" because the party has become a parasite feeding on the corpse of America's economic prosperity.


Not really, no. If you feed on a corpse, you're not a parasite, you're a scavenger or predator. Parasitism is when you co-opt an organism's natural function to benefit your own, and harmful parasitism is where this is done in a way that benefits the parasite over the host.

I doubt you care, because the rest of what you had to say is pretty stupid and wrong, but I figure this one deserved special attention.
 
2013-10-26 10:56:12 AM

Animatronik: UNC_Samurai:

The Dominionists and the Mega-Churchers have also poisoned the well on poverty.  The Prosperity Gospel says God wants you to be rich and wealth is a sign you're doing something right.  The flip side of that is, poverty is viewed as a symptom of moral failings, not a cause.  Poor people are poor because they're terrible people, and justifies the "they're moochers" mindset.



But allow me to retort...

The converse seems to be the notion that poor people are entitled to permanent assistance, which only encourages them to continue in that state.

It may SEEM that way to you but there is no such notion. Neither party is promoting permanent assistance (with the exception, perhaps, for the permanently disabled). In fact, BOTH "sides" have mandated things like "welfare to work" and limited the time to collect unemployment. What is currently encouraging - even mandating - a state of permanent assistance are profitable corporations (see fast food industries) who underpay employees who are directed to assistance programs AS A MATTER OF COURSE.

  When you're talking about absolute necessities like food, water, heat, and sanitation, that makes sense if you can do it within the available means..


   As has been said for the past four decades? We have the means - if we chose to prioritize, The steps would include better education and housing (read "less corruption and theft of funding) as well as a realistic examination of our bloated defense costs. Rather than do this, we opted to create the DHS - which costs us more than it would take to provide food water and heat to entire cities.
  The Democratic Party has reached the point though where that's not good enough.  Now they want to give everybody free cell phones, free health care, and free money.  They want to give necessities to people who don't really need them also, who could afford to pay for them.

The Democratic Party did not start the phone program - do your homework. Health care is not "free" - it is paid for by the american people. I am okay with this because I have been to Haiti and would rather not have a system breakdown from diseases that cost more to treat than prevent. As for money, see above. As for your assertion people can pay for these things themselves? see above also.

That's because the Democrats aren't really about fulfilling basic necessities.  What they're about is buying as many votes as possible, and it doesn't matter to them if it degrades a man's self respect and capability to support himself and degrades the family structure by encouraging single motherhood.  None of that matters the slightest to Democrats if they can get your vote.

Contrary to your assumption, people who are just having their basic necessities met (by whatever party that you seem to think unilaterally throws money into the air without a vote to pass a law or program or spending) generally DONT vote. This is part of the reasoning behind mandating photo ID and why so many are concerned about it. It costs money. And subsistance living doesn't include buying ID.

If you want to make the argument that welfare programs (again, voted on by BOTH parties) encouraged single parenthood then let me also mention that the war on drugs - and the unbalanced percentage of black males incarcerated - also rather helped this particular problem. Don't pretend as if this was a Democratic plan.

Racist?  In effect yes because it disproportionately affects blacks.  A better word might be "parasitic" because the party has become a parasite feeding on the corpse of America's economic prosperity.

  Who is feeding off the corpse of America are the wallstreet bankers who game the system raking off enough profits to cover the college tuition of entire schools full of children and corporations like walmart who rely on taxpayers to subsidize not only their losses but the very workers you deride as being parasitic.

   What is worse? Uncontrolled greed masked as "job makers" or sub-standard living conditions labeled "parasitic"?
 
2013-10-26 10:57:35 AM
Civil Rights Act of 1964 votes by party and region:

In the House:

Southern Democrats: 7-87   (7-93%)
Southern Republicans: 0-10   (0-100%)
Northern Democrats: 145-9   (94-6%)
Northern Republicans: 138-24   (85-15%)

In the Senate:

Southern Democrats: 1-20   (5-95%)
Southern Republicans: 0-1   (0-100%)
Northern Democrats: 45-1   (98-2%)
Northern Republicans: 27-5   (84-16%)

Southerners are a bunch of racists, and being Republican makes you more racist.
 
2013-10-26 11:01:07 AM

legion_of_doo: The paternalistic way libtards treat minorities (who aren't South/East Asian) is rather racist.

So's the DEY COME OVER TEH BORDERS AND TAKE ARR JERBS shiat on the right.

Both sides just use the race thing to their advantage whenever possible.



If you really want to see the "paternalistic way libtards treat minorities," go tally how many black, Mexican, and female members of congress are Democrats versus how many are Republicans.


Here, I'll give you a hint...

43 black Democrats, 1 black Republican.

24 hispanic Democrats, 7 hispanic Republicans.

75 women Democrats, 26 women Republicans.

It's not "paternalistic" when you actually give people a seat at the table of power.

Jam your false equivalence and your "Democrat plantation" up your ass... all the way... and sideways.
 
2013-10-26 11:07:28 AM

Deathfrogg: I handled a black person for a while right after high school. She was very sweet. Liked to bake cookies. Her dad didn't like me though, he said I was a smartass.


He was right, wasn't he?
 
2013-10-26 11:07:43 AM
In the south, there likely still are areas where "Dixiecrat" white democrats are prevalent, and more racist than the local GOP; and there may be some subtle forms of racism that are more common among Democrats than Republicans.

However, in the country as a whole, there's a lot more tendency to unsubtle racism among Republicans than among Democrats.
 
2013-10-26 11:16:08 AM

Practical_Draconian: The derp is dangerous," she said, "but it gives herp. We derp down so many avenues of the past . . .  Yet, there's a herp where no derpsayer can say. We are repelled by it, terrorized. It is said a man will come one day and find in the gift of the derp in his inward eye. He will herp where we cannot."
"Your Kwisatz Wurzelbach?"
"Yes, the one who can herp many derps at the black ones: the Kwisatz Wurzelbach. Many men have tried the derp . . . so many, but none has succeeded."
"They tried and failed, all of them?"
"Oh, no." She shook her head. "They tried and died."


stream1.gifsoup.com
 
2013-10-26 11:19:50 AM
Was the obvious tag on vacation?
 
2013-10-26 11:23:10 AM

RyogaM: Black people are the most politically astute voting class in the U.S. today and voting as a block for Democrats is just proof of that.


I wouldn't say that. Black people are to a large extent boogymen of the right; they aren't allowed to come out and say what they think in bald language, but their racism is palpable. You don't see anything like that with poor whites, on the contrary the GOP sings their praises, calls them "real Americans", etc., all while robbing them blind. It isn't a matter of black voters being more astute, it's just that they aren't a significant target of GOP propaganda, and in fact are demonized and slandered by that propaganda. You can't openly disdain someone and still have them vote for you, you have to praise them to their faces and keep expressions of contempt behind closed doors.
 
2013-10-26 11:24:11 AM

Mrbogey: How many racist attacks have been committed by Tea Party members?

scottydoesntknow: I don't get how you can farking say that after posting an essay titled "America Needs a White Republican President"

He was trolling you. His argument in it is that America has made Obama completely blameless for everything and anyone who does blame him for anything is derided as racist. Unlike when we had white Republican president and gas being too high (above $2/gal) was entirely his fault. Hell, the gov't shutdown of 2013 is still Bush's fault.


I don't know, do the cops typically ask for your party affiliation when they book you?  How do you survive being so ignorant?  This is going to be one of those things where you're wrong...again...and then you will claim you said something that you really didn't say, isn't it?  Your playbook is full of fail.
 
2013-10-26 11:33:01 AM

sugardave: I don't know, do the cops typically ask for your party affiliation when they book you?


We heard about a hispanic guy shooting a black teen in self-defense. Something tells me if a TP member attacked a minority we'd all be hearing about it.
 
2013-10-26 11:34:10 AM

PanicMan: Deathfrogg: I handled a black person for a while right after high school. She was very sweet. Liked to bake cookies. Her dad didn't like me though, he said I was a smartass.

He was right, wasn't he?


Yep. I had a decent job though. He muttered, grumbled and tried to scare me. It didn't stop his darling daughter from sneaking out to bring me cookies.
 
2013-10-26 11:35:21 AM

Practical_Draconian: Kwisatz Wurzelbach


Now that's funny, right there.

/Just finished reading Dune for the first time ever...
 
2013-10-26 11:40:42 AM

the_vegetarian_cannibal: Mrbogey: How many racist attacks have been committed by Tea Party members?

1. You're a moron.


Mrbogey: He was trolling you. His argument in it is that America has made Obama completely blameless for everything and anyone who does blame him for anything is derided as racist. Unlike when we had white Republican president and gas being too high (above $2/gal) was entirely his fault. Hell, the gov't shutdown of 2013 is still Bush's fault.

2. You're still a moron.

Next question, please.


1. Dale Robertson disavowed by the Tea Party. Really when we think of the KKK, we think of a group that disavows racism and turns on members who display racism. Remember how David Duke was bounced when it turned out he was a racist? And when someone compared Bush to a Nazi it was clearly because he "looked German". How racist!

2. Yes, Obama's been blamed for high gas prices by a few people. Very few of them were the ones blaming Bush for high gas prices.

"The price of oil is at the doorstep -- 4 dollars plus per gallon for oil, is attributed to two oil men in the White House" - Nancy Pelosi. She never blamed Obama for gas being at that price for most of the past 5 years.

Be less dumb.
 
2013-10-26 11:48:20 AM

technicolor-misfit: If you really want to see the "paternalistic way libtards treat minorities," go tally how many black, Mexican, and female members of congress are Democrats versus how many are Republicans.


Republicans try running minority candidates but white Democrats refuse to vote for them. So many minority Democrats refuse to get off the plantation and help advance their people. The Democrats that minorities elect all too often enrich themselves and their loyal inner circle and destroy the community- see every Detroit, New Orleans, and Washington DC.
 
2013-10-26 11:50:20 AM

Mrbogey: sugardave: I don't know, do the cops typically ask for your party affiliation when they book you?

We heard about a hispanic guy shooting a black teen in self-defense. Something tells me if a TP member attacked a minority we'd all be hearing about it.


You mean like this guy?

Or this guy?
 
2013-10-26 11:53:16 AM

Mrbogey: He was trolling you. His argument in it is that America has made Obama completely blameless for everything and anyone who does blame him for anything is derided as racist. Unlike when we had white Republican president and gas being too high (above $2/gal) was entirely his fault. Hell, the gov't shutdown of 2013 is still Bush's fault.


Obama has been made completely blameless?  Then kindly explain this:  in an August poll of Louisiana Republicans by PPP, 28% thought Bush was more responsible for the poor response to Hurricane Katrina, 44% didn't know, and 29% blamed Obama.

How can you say he's been made completely blameless when he's getting shiat for things that happened before he was even President?
 
2013-10-26 11:54:11 AM

Mrbogey: technicolor-misfit: If you really want to see the "paternalistic way libtards treat minorities," go tally how many black, Mexican, and female members of congress are Democrats versus how many are Republicans.


Republicans try running minority candidates but white Democrats refuse to vote for them. So many minority Democrats refuse to get off the plantation and help advance their people. The Democrats that minorities elect all too often enrich themselves and their loyal inner circle and destroy the community- see every Detroit, New Orleans, and Washington DC.

yeah - THAT is why Democrats refuse to vote for a Republican candidate. It isn't that they are a Republican - that would be entirely too logical
 
2013-10-26 11:58:35 AM

parasol: Mrbogey: technicolor-misfit: If you really want to see the "paternalistic way libtards treat minorities," go tally how many black, Mexican, and female members of congress are Democrats versus how many are Republicans.

Republicans try running minority candidates but white Democrats refuse to vote for them. So many minority Democrats refuse to get off the plantation and help advance their people. The Democrats that minorities elect all too often enrich themselves and their loyal inner circle and destroy the community- see every Detroit, New Orleans, and Washington DC.

yeah - THAT is why Democrats refuse to vote for a Republican candidate. It isn't that they are a Republican - that would be entirely too logical


Here is a former minority Republican candidate: Alan West
The reason I, as a Democrat, didn't vote for Mr West was because he is a minority.
It had nothing to do with the fact he is a reported war criminal that spews hatred for women, for democrats, that he had no platform of actionable ideas or that he was supported by some of the most stupid and vile voters i've ever witnessed. - ever - anywhere.
No, it was because he was black
 
2013-10-26 12:08:26 PM

Mrbogey: He was trolling you. His argument in it is that America has made Obama completely blameless for everything and anyone who does blame him for anything is derided as racist.


The victim mentality among "conservatives" is astonishing.  And they apparently believe their own bullshiat.
 
2013-10-26 12:09:26 PM
Oh, ok I get it.  It's all part of the big plan, I guess.  We get all the racial minorities all entitled up on welfare babies and government cheese, and they get too lazy to go out and make better lives for themselves, and therefore leave all the upper management positions to whitey.  Aha!  As someone who is not racist, I must now face a choice: decide to just go ahead and become racist and keep voting for Democrats, or say NO to racism and vote for Republicans.

Yay, now I'm a non-racist Republican!  Let's give minorities all the personal responsibility the Democrats have been denying them all this time!  And deport Mexicans and make it harder for Blacks to vote!

Thanks Joe!  No more cross-burning for me!
 
2013-10-26 12:14:32 PM

parasol: parasol: Mrbogey: technicolor-misfit: If you really want to see the "paternalistic way libtards treat minorities," go tally how many black, Mexican, and female members of congress are Democrats versus how many are Republicans.

Republicans try running minority candidates but white Democrats refuse to vote for them. So many minority Democrats refuse to get off the plantation and help advance their people. The Democrats that minorities elect all too often enrich themselves and their loyal inner circle and destroy the community- see every Detroit, New Orleans, and Washington DC.

yeah - THAT is why Democrats refuse to vote for a Republican candidate. It isn't that they are a Republican - that would be entirely too logical

Here is a former minority Republican candidate: Alan West
The reason I, as a Democrat, didn't vote for Mr West was because he is a minority.
It had nothing to do with the fact he is a reported war criminal that spews hatred for women, for democrats, that he had no platform of actionable ideas or that he was supported by some of the most stupid and vile voters i've ever witnessed. - ever - anywhere.
No, it was because he was black


Give me a break. You didn't vote for him because you are a racist.
 
2013-10-26 12:14:39 PM

Mrbogey: sugardave: I don't know, do the cops typically ask for your party affiliation when they book you?

We heard about a hispanic guy shooting a black teen in self-defense. Something tells me if a TP member attacked a minority we'd all be hearing about it.


Once again, you're being proven wrong in the very thread where you  are lying.  I see a few links you might want to check out.  Or continue to ignore reality and try to convince people that you are the only correct person in the entirety of the universe and EVERYONE else is wrong.  Good luck.
 
2013-10-26 12:16:37 PM

Deathfrogg: You mean like this guy?


Online commenters are the gold standard. Did the guy survive the comments from anonymous people or did he succumb to his injuries?

Deathfrogg: Or this guy?


Police believe Jason Todd "J.T." Ready opened fire at a house in Gilbert on Wednesday, killing his girlfriend, her daughter, the daughter's boyfriend and their toddler daughter, then shot himself, Gilbert Police Sergeant Bill Balafas said.

His girlfriend was a black Democrat? He was clearly a horrible racist. Meaning not very good at it.

I personally don't think a racist guy killing someone makes it a racist killing.

Karac: How can you say he's been made completely blameless when he's getting shiat for things that happened before he was even President?


Man, that was a terrific trolling question. It literally said "who do you blame for the poor Katrina response, Bush or Obama". They might as well have asked if they stopped beating their wives.
 
2013-10-26 12:17:32 PM

sugardave: Once again, you're being proven wrong


Liar.
 
2013-10-26 12:17:43 PM

Mrbogey: Obama's been blamed for high gas prices by a few people.


If "by a few people" you mean the GOP leadership from Mitt Romney on down then yes.
 
2013-10-26 12:20:52 PM

Mrbogey: sugardave: Once again, you're being proven wrong

Liar.


Prove that no acts of violence against minorities are committed by you Teabaggers.  I'll wait.

And, personal attacks this early in the game?  You are obviously failing harder than a failboat trying to failpoon a failwhale.
 
2013-10-26 12:21:13 PM

Mrbogey: Republicans try running minority candidates but white Democrats sane people refuse to vote for them.


It doesn't matter that they're a minority.  They're just as batshait crazy as their white counterparts.  Why are you so preoccupied on race?
 
2013-10-26 12:22:08 PM

Fart_Machine: Mrbogey: Republicans try running minority candidates but white Democrats sane people refuse to vote for them.

It doesn't matter that they're a minority.  They're just as batshait crazy as their white counterparts.  Why are you so preoccupied on race?


Because he is post-racist or some stupid shiat he'll spout in a minute.
 
2013-10-26 12:25:30 PM

sugardave: Mrbogey: sugardave: Once again, you're being proven wrong

Liar.

Prove that no acts of violence against minorities are committed by you Teabaggers.  I'll wait.

And, personal attacks this early in the game?  You are obviously failing harder than a failboat trying to failpoon a failwhale.


This is how you know you're dealing with a piece of shiat troll, btw.  I've been away from Fark for a while now, and I'm surprised to come back see them still getting fed daily here.
 
2013-10-26 12:26:26 PM

sugardave: Fart_Machine: Mrbogey: Republicans try running minority candidates but white Democrats sane people refuse to vote for them.

It doesn't matter that they're a minority.  They're just as batshait crazy as their white counterparts.  Why are you so preoccupied on race?

Because he is post-racist or some stupid shiat he'll spout in a minute.


I'm waiting for him to call himself a "race realist".
 
2013-10-26 12:27:47 PM

sugardave: Mrbogey: sugardave: Once again, you're being proven wrong

Liar.

Prove that no acts of violence against minorities are committed by you Teabaggers.  I'll wait.

And, personal attacks this early in the game?  You are obviously failing harder than a failboat trying to failpoon a failwhale.


*Ahem* From the post I was replying to...

sugardave: ...in the very thread where you are lying


It's not your fault you can't remember what you say. I blame the poor educational system where you grew up. Plus poor parenting.

As to how I need to prove how Tea Party members aren't committing racist assaults, I tried using google but couldn't find any. Maybe you could do the logical thing and support your claim?
 
2013-10-26 12:27:48 PM

QU!RK1019: sugardave: Mrbogey: sugardave: Once again, you're being proven wrong

Liar.

Prove that no acts of violence against minorities are committed by you Teabaggers.  I'll wait.

And, personal attacks this early in the game?  You are obviously failing harder than a failboat trying to failpoon a failwhale.

This is how you know you're dealing with a piece of shiat troll, btw.  I've been away from Fark for a while now, and I'm surprised to come back see them still getting fed daily here.


I know....what can I say?  I'm bored, but it does start to get old pretty quickly.
 
2013-10-26 12:27:59 PM

Mrbogey: 1. Dale Robertson disavowed by the Tea Party. Really when we think of the KKK, we think of a group that disavows racism and turns on members who display racism. Remember how David Duke was bounced when it turned out he was a racist? And when someone compared Bush to a Nazi it was clearly because he "looked German". How racist!


You didn't say that the Tea Party had to condone the racist action. You just asked for instances where Tea Party members have committed racist attacks:

Mrbogey: How many racist attacks have been committed by Tea Party members?


Mrbogey: 2. Yes, Obama's been blamed for high gas prices by a few people. Very few of them were the ones blaming Bush for high gas prices.

"The price of oil is at the doorstep -- 4 dollars plus per gallon for oil, is attributed to two oil men in the White House" - Nancy Pelosi. She never blamed Obama for gas being at that price for most of the past 5 years.


Again, not what you said. You tried to make the (untrue) claim that nobody has blamed Obama for high gas prices. You didn't specify that it had to be Democrats and liberals doing the blaming:

Mrbogey: His argument in it is that America has made Obama completely blameless for everything and anyone who does blame him for anything is derided as racist. Unlike when we had white Republican president and gas being too high (above $2/gal) was entirely his fault.


I could easily turn your statement around and claim that the Republicans are the ones who are racist since they blame Obama for gas prices but they didn't blame Bush for them. But of course, they're on "your team" so in their case, it's okay with you.


Only a few posts into the thread and you're already moving the goalposts. You do realize that we can all re-read your old posts and call you out on that, right?

Be less dumb.
 
2013-10-26 12:29:51 PM

Mrbogey: sugardave: Mrbogey: sugardave: Once again, you're being proven wrong

Liar.

Prove that no acts of violence against minorities are committed by you Teabaggers.  I'll wait.

And, personal attacks this early in the game?  You are obviously failing harder than a failboat trying to failpoon a failwhale.

*Ahem* From the post I was replying to...

sugardave: ...in the very thread where you are lying

It's not your fault you can't remember what you say. I blame the poor educational system where you grew up. Plus poor parenting.

As to how I need to prove how Tea Party members aren't committing racist assaults, I tried using google but couldn't find any. Maybe you could do the logical thing and support your claim?


You claimed that it doesn't happen first, so the burden of proof is on you.  That's how it works.  I don't understand how quoting me pointing out that you're lying helps bolster your lies, but go ahead on wit yo bad self!
 
2013-10-26 12:33:06 PM

the_vegetarian_cannibal: Again, not what you said. You tried to make the (untrue) claim that nobody has blamed Obama for high gas prices. You didn't specify that it had to be Democrats and liberals doing the blaming:


This is just you derping. Of course the assertion is on Dems. Republicans don't hold Obama blameless by virtue of being Republicans. The whole thing is about how Dems are treating Obama. I shouldn't have to hold your hand and force you to think.

the_vegetarian_cannibal: You didn't say that the Tea Party had to condone the racist action. You just asked for instances where Tea Party members have committed racist attacks:


"Action" and "attack" both start with "a" and if you're looking only at how the word appears they can get confusing. I forgive you for this error.

the_vegetarian_cannibal: Only a few posts into the thread and you're already moving the goalposts.


Just because a football team thinks the goal line is at the 50 yard line it doesn't mean anyone has moved it when the ref refuses to award points when they cross it.
 
2013-10-26 12:33:13 PM

randomjsa: If you want to see racism, be a minority that disagrees with a liberal.

If you want to see sexism, be a female that disagrees with a liberal.

If you want to see homophobia, be a homosexual that disagrees with a liberal.

If you want to see liberals melt down in to a massive ball of bigotry? Be any combination of the above.


I'll tell that to the Matthew Shepard that he wasn't killed because of homophobia.
 
2013-10-26 12:36:33 PM

thatboyoverthere: randomjsa: If you want to see racism, be a minority that disagrees with a liberal.

If you want to see sexism, be a female that disagrees with a liberal.

If you want to see homophobia, be a homosexual that disagrees with a liberal.

If you want to see liberals melt down in to a massive ball of bigotry? Be any combination of the above.

I'll tell that to the Matthew Shepard that he wasn't killed because of homophobia.


He wasn't killed because of homophobia.
 
2013-10-26 12:36:41 PM

sugardave: You claimed that it doesn't happen first, so the burden of proof is on you. That's how it works. I don't understand how quoting me pointing out that you're lying helps bolster your lies, but go ahead on wit yo bad self!


Look, I told you. Here's my evidence it doesn't exist:

*Nothing*

See. Nothing. Ergo it doesn't exist. I've proved something doesn't exist. Now you are saying it exists. Prove it.

Maybe I'm being too rough on you. Most people over the age of 18 understand basic logical fallacies concerning the production of evidence but quite a few folks didn't get a good education and don't grasp these seemingly simple concepts. Maybe, if I just acknowledged your handicap and tried to usher you through this you can become a learned individual.

So in that regards, here.
 
2013-10-26 12:37:21 PM

badhatharry: parasol: parasol: Mrbogey: technicolor-misfit: If you really want to see the "paternalistic way libtards treat minorities," go tally how many black, Mexican, and female members of congress are Democrats versus how many are Republicans.

Republicans try running minority candidates but white Democrats refuse to vote for them. So many minority Democrats refuse to get off the plantation and help advance their people. The Democrats that minorities elect all too often enrich themselves and their loyal inner circle and destroy the community- see every Detroit, New Orleans, and Washington DC.

yeah - THAT is why Democrats refuse to vote for a Republican candidate. It isn't that they are a Republican - that would be entirely too logical

Here is a former minority Republican candidate: Alan West
The reason I, as a Democrat, didn't vote for Mr West was because he is a minority.
It had nothing to do with the fact he is a reported war criminal that spews hatred for women, for democrats, that he had no platform of actionable ideas or that he was supported by some of the most stupid and vile voters i've ever witnessed. - ever - anywhere.
No, it was because he was black

Give me a break. You didn't vote for him because you are a racist.


You got me - I am a Democrat actively fighting to keep "those people" out of the Republican party.
Damn, foiled again!
 
2013-10-26 12:37:34 PM

ALL GIRLS AGREE TO PULL PANTIES DOWN: sugardave: Mrbogey: sugardave: Once again, you're being proven wrong

Liar.

Prove that no acts of violence against minorities are committed by you Teabaggers.  I'll wait.

And, personal attacks this early in the game?  You are obviously failing harder than a failboat trying to failpoon a failwhale.

Teabagger spitting on a black Congressman:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/03/28/congressman-spit-on-by-te_n _5 16300.html

Teabaggers surrounding a Jewish Congressman, pushing and shoving him, and then chanting "JEW!  JEW!  JEW!"

http://gawker.com/5733427/angry-man-screaming-jew-at-congressman-is- no t-a-great-face-for-tea-party


Bonus: Teabagger yelling "Heil, Hitler!" to a Jewish man speaking about the benefits of Israel's healthcare program:

http://thinkprogress.org/politics/2009/08/18/56760/hitler-israel/


Not clicking on any of those links.
 
2013-10-26 12:37:54 PM

scottydoesntknow: I don't get how you can farking say that after posting an essay titled "America Needs a White Republican President"


But he didn't write that essay!  He's a modern robin hood who steals intellectual property from racists, and gives the fame and money to bottstrappy Reals Americans!

You see, someone else wrote that essay.  He simply stole it and put it on his website with his name on it.  Then, he collected the advertising revenue and the monetized the opportunities from the media exposure that resulted.

But since he didn't actually write the piece, he's not a racist.  He's a victim.  Democrats are the real racists.
 
2013-10-26 12:38:47 PM

parasol: badhatharry: parasol: parasol: Mrbogey: technicolor-misfit: If you really want to see the "paternalistic way libtards treat minorities," go tally how many black, Mexican, and female members of congress are Democrats versus how many are Republicans.

Republicans try running minority candidates but white Democrats refuse to vote for them. So many minority Democrats refuse to get off the plantation and help advance their people. The Democrats that minorities elect all too often enrich themselves and their loyal inner circle and destroy the community- see every Detroit, New Orleans, and Washington DC.

yeah - THAT is why Democrats refuse to vote for a Republican candidate. It isn't that they are a Republican - that would be entirely too logical

Here is a former minority Republican candidate: Alan West
The reason I, as a Democrat, didn't vote for Mr West was because he is a minority.
It had nothing to do with the fact he is a reported war criminal that spews hatred for women, for democrats, that he had no platform of actionable ideas or that he was supported by some of the most stupid and vile voters i've ever witnessed. - ever - anywhere.
No, it was because he was black

Give me a break. You didn't vote for him because you are a racist.

You got me - I am a Democrat actively fighting to keep "those people" out of the Republican party.
Damn, foiled again!


You are obviously scared by a strong independent black man. You are frightened of black people.
 
2013-10-26 12:41:06 PM

Mrbogey: sugardave: You claimed that it doesn't happen first, so the burden of proof is on you. That's how it works. I don't understand how quoting me pointing out that you're lying helps bolster your lies, but go ahead on wit yo bad self!

Look, I told you. Here's my evidence it doesn't exist:

*Nothing*

See. Nothing. Ergo it doesn't exist. I've proved something doesn't exist. Now you are saying it exists. Prove it.

Maybe I'm being too rough on you. Most people over the age of 18 understand basic logical fallacies concerning the production of evidence but quite a few folks didn't get a good education and don't grasp these seemingly simple concepts. Maybe, if I just acknowledged your handicap and tried to usher you through this you can become a learned individual.

So in that regards, here.


Hmm, once again I see plenty of proof being offered to you upthread.  But, I guess you can't see that.  Maybe Obamacare will cover eye exams.  You should really get yours checked, sweet cheeks.

Oh, and keep attacking the messenger when things aren't going your way.  You'll surely convince everyone that you are correct.
 
2013-10-26 12:44:51 PM

badhatharry: parasol: badhatharry: parasol: parasol: Mrbogey: technicolor-misfit: If you really want to see the "paternalistic way libtards treat minorities," go tally how many black, Mexican, and female members of congress are Democrats versus how many are Republicans.

Republicans try running minority candidates but white Democrats refuse to vote for them. So many minority Democrats refuse to get off the plantation and help advance their people. The Democrats that minorities elect all too often enrich themselves and their loyal inner circle and destroy the community- see every Detroit, New Orleans, and Washington DC.

yeah - THAT is why Democrats refuse to vote for a Republican candidate. It isn't that they are a Republican - that would be entirely too logical

Here is a former minority Republican candidate: Alan West
The reason I, as a Democrat, didn't vote for Mr West was because he is a minority.
It had nothing to do with the fact he is a reported war criminal that spews hatred for women, for democrats, that he had no platform of actionable ideas or that he was supported by some of the most stupid and vile voters i've ever witnessed. - ever - anywhere.
No, it was because he was black

Give me a break. You didn't vote for him because you are a racist.

You got me - I am a Democrat actively fighting to keep "those people" out of the Republican party.
Damn, foiled again!

You are obviously scared by a strong independent black man. You are frightened of black people.


Huh - It was my understanding that he is a Republican. Is he now a FARK Independent (TM)?
 
2013-10-26 12:45:17 PM

sugardave: I know....what can I say?  I'm bored, but it does start to get old pretty quickly.


Actually, yeah.  Seeing them getting downvoted over at reddit was getting old too.  Sometimes you just want a punching bag.
 
2013-10-26 12:45:25 PM

ALL GIRLS AGREE TO PULL PANTIES DOWN: Teabagger spitting on a black Congressman:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/03/28/congressman-spit-on-by-te_n _5 16300.html


You should watch the video where he clearly isn't spitting and instead just yelling as the gentleman walks by.

ALL GIRLS AGREE TO PULL PANTIES DOWN: Teabaggers surrounding a Jewish Congressman, pushing and shoving him, and then chanting "JEW! JEW! JEW!"

http://gawker.com/5733427/angry-man-screaming-jew-at-congressman-is- no t-a-great-face-for-tea-party


I tried watching it. All I see are people yelling out a candidates name. A few people in the crowd saying something close in he may have heard but I think you're overplaying your hand by stating a crowd was yelling "Jew" at him.

ALL GIRLS AGREE TO PULL PANTIES DOWN: Bonus: Teabagger yelling "Heil, Hitler!" to a Jewish man speaking about the benefits of Israel's healthcare program:

http://thinkprogress.org/politics/2009/08/18/56760/hitler-israel/


Heh... read about the nut. She's wearing an IDF shirt while she yelled that. Sounds more like trolling than racism.
 
2013-10-26 12:46:59 PM
Also, according to Joe the "Plumber":

"Bald is the new hair."
"Stupidity is the new smart."
"What do these pipey things do anyway?"
"Boxers or briefs?  Who cares?  I wear Depends."
 
2013-10-26 12:48:05 PM

Mrbogey: This is just you derping. Of course the assertion is on Dems. Republicans don't hold Obama blameless by virtue of being Republicans. The whole thing is about how Dems are treating Obama. I shouldn't have to hold your hand and force you to think.


So the crux of your argument is that a Republican president gets blamed by Democrats and defended by Republicans while a Democratic president gets blamed by Republicans and defended by Democrats? Um, thank you Captain Obvious? There's always partisan spinning and hypocrisy in politics but I fail to see how there's any racial double standard in this issue. Why are you so sure that only the Dems are motivated by race in their criticisms/lack of criticisms of presidents?


Mrbogey: "Action" and "attack" both start with "a" and if you're looking only at how the word appears they can get confusing. I forgive you for this error.


Yay! When goalpost-moving fails, it's time to bring out the petty semantics! You know that "attacks" can be verbal and aren't necessarily physical, right?

Note the fact that I didn't even mention the word "action" in my Weeners to your post. I just provided a few examples of Tea Party racist attacks and you didn't seem to object to the fact that they weren't "attacks" then. You just tried to claim that they didn't count because of "No true Scotsman." And then when you get called out on your BS and backed into a corner, you try to come up with some new excuse to dismiss the facts.


Mrbogey: Just because a football team thinks the goal line is at the 50 yard line it doesn't mean anyone has moved it when the ref refuses to award points when they cross it.


That's cute.
 
2013-10-26 12:48:29 PM

ALL GIRLS AGREE TO PULL PANTIES DOWN: badhatharry: ALL GIRLS AGREE TO PULL PANTIES DOWN: sugardave: Mrbogey: sugardave: Once again, you're being proven wrong

Liar.

Prove that no acts of violence against minorities are committed by you Teabaggers.  I'll wait.

And, personal attacks this early in the game?  You are obviously failing harder than a failboat trying to failpoon a failwhale.

Teabagger spitting on a black Congressman:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/03/28/congressman-spit-on-by-te_n _5 16300.html

Teabaggers surrounding a Jewish Congressman, pushing and shoving him, and then chanting "JEW!  JEW!  JEW!"

http://gawker.com/5733427/angry-man-screaming-jew-at-congressman-is- no t-a-great-face-for-tea-party


Bonus: Teabagger yelling "Heil, Hitler!" to a Jewish man speaking about the benefits of Israel's healthcare program:

http://thinkprogress.org/politics/2009/08/18/56760/hitler-israel/

Not clicking on any of those links.

I'm sorry I couldn't find any links on Stormfront, Birther.


Birther!

DRINK!
 
2013-10-26 12:53:13 PM

randomjsa: If you want to see racism, be a minority that disagrees with a liberal.

If you want to see sexism, be a female that disagrees with a liberal.

If you want to see homophobia, be a homosexual that disagrees with a liberal.

If you want to see liberals melt down in to a massive ball of bigotry? Be any combination of the above.


So which one are you?
 
2013-10-26 12:59:04 PM

badhatharry: Birther!

DRINK!


Why drink? You'll lose even more of your memory that way.

i.imgur.com
 
2013-10-26 01:01:43 PM

Mrbogey: Heh... read about the nut. She's wearing an IDF shirt while she yelled that. Sounds more like trolling than racism


No, it sounds like she's not very bright.  But most Teabaggers usually aren't.
 
2013-10-26 01:08:12 PM

the_vegetarian_cannibal: badhatharry: Birther!

DRINK!

Why drink? You'll lose even more of your memory that way.

[i.imgur.com image 850x608]


He was "just asking questions".
 
2013-10-26 01:08:42 PM

TV's Vinnie: It's been FIVE GOD DAMN YEARS since this skinhead deadbeat got lucky in front of a news camera! How much longer must we put up with his sh*t?!


As long as the mere mention of his name continues to drive lefties over the edge, which, judging from what I'm seeing on this thread, is forever.
 
2013-10-26 01:12:33 PM

the_vegetarian_cannibal: badhatharry: Birther!

DRINK!

Why drink? You'll lose even more of your memory that way.


Ouch. That's gotta be embarrassing, assuming he/she possesses the capacity for shame.
 
2013-10-26 01:16:54 PM

Fart_Machine: the_vegetarian_cannibal: badhatharry: Birther!

DRINK!

Why drink? You'll lose even more of your memory that way.

[i.imgur.com image 850x608]

He was "just asking questions".


Can we please see your birth certificate? Pretty please? Tough questions.
I know, I know,  I'm racist because he is black.

Thanks for the trip down memory lane!
 
2013-10-26 01:18:37 PM

badhatharry: Can we please see your birth certificate? Pretty please? Tough questions.
I know, I know,  I'm racist because he is black.


No, not at all.  It's just when he showed the birth certificate and people called it fake is where the train jumped the tracks.  No worries though, I'm sure you're not one of those fools.
 
2013-10-26 01:24:58 PM

Smeggy Smurf: He has a point.   How many Democrats believe that blacks cannot compete with whites on a level playing field?  It's all about affirmative action and quotas as though the color of your skin actually matter if you're capable of doing the job or not.  Soft racism of low expectations is still racism.



Oh... you want a level playing field?

Cool.

First step is to stop having each school district get its funding from the local property tax base, which leads to schools in rich neighbourhoods having 30 times the money per child that poor neighbourhoods.

It's hard to claim an "even playing field"  when kids from rich districts get field trips across the country for their 6th grade outings, while poor kids have to share 10-year-old textbooks because there aren't enough to go around.

So yeah... I can just imagine the anguished screams from Republican land if there was ever even a suggestion to actually level the playing field.
 
2013-10-26 01:27:53 PM
You know, claiming someone is racist without evidence just makes you look stupid.
 
2013-10-26 01:28:33 PM

Mrbogey: technicolor-misfit: If you really want to see the "paternalistic way libtards treat minorities," go tally how many black, Mexican, and female members of congress are Democrats versus how many are Republicans.

Republicans try running minority candidates but white Democrats refuse to vote for them. So many minority Democrats refuse to get off the plantation and help advance their people. The Democrats that minorities elect all too often enrich themselves and their loyal inner circle and destroy the community- see every Detroit, New Orleans, and Washington DC.


The GOP manages to get plenty of white guys elected without help from demographics voters. Why can't Republicans get minorities and women elected without the help of Democrats?

Oh yeah, because Republican voters won't cast a ballot for them.

That's really the most ridiculous post I have ever farking seen.

"It's democrat's fault Republicans won't elect the coloreds!!!"

I'm gonna give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you're trolling rather than brain damaged.
 
2013-10-26 01:36:29 PM

badhatharry: Can we please see your birth certificate? Pretty please? Tough questions.


So you're a Birther.  Just accept it.
 
2013-10-26 01:37:48 PM

jjorsett: TV's Vinnie: It's been FIVE GOD DAMN YEARS since this skinhead deadbeat got lucky in front of a news camera! How much longer must we put up with his sh*t?!

As long as the mere mention of his name continues to drive lefties over the edge, which, judging from what I'm seeing on this thread, is forever.


Great.  I'm sure he's doing wonders to increase the appeal of the "conservative movement."
 
2013-10-26 01:40:46 PM

badhatharry: Can we please see your birth certificate? Pretty please? Tough questions.
I know, I know,  I'm racist because he is black.


I would like to know why, after more than 200 years of Presidential elections, asking for a birth certificate suddenly became a thing.  Can you tell me why?

And if it's legit, why didn't all the totally not racist teabaggers swarm McCain or Romney demanding birth certificates?
 
2013-10-26 01:42:48 PM

Lionel Mandrake: Great.  I'm sure he's doing wonders to increase the appeal of the "conservative movement."


And of course its the libs doing all of the division, trotting out imbeciles and then use the line "Well it makes the libs pissed so he must be good" is totally not pissing off one side deliberately.
 
2013-10-26 01:42:53 PM
Sorry guys, didn't mean to derail this into a Birther thread.

But really, badhatharry asked for it
 
2013-10-26 01:47:35 PM

technicolor-misfit: Here, I'll give you a hint...

43 black Democrats, 1 black Republican.

24 hispanic Democrats, 7 hispanic Republicans.

75 women Democrats, 26 women Republicans.

It's not "paternalistic" when you actually give people a seat at the table of power.

Jam your false equivalence and your "Democrat plantation" up your ass... all the way... and sideways.


It should be noted that the one black Republican was an appointee is has very little chance of surviving his coming primary challenge.
 
2013-10-26 01:52:19 PM
I wonder, after Obama's presidency is over, if the narrative for part of the country will be "we spent 8 years governed by a President who never showed his birth certificate to our satisfaction"

or

If the eventual Obama Presidential Library will include a certified long form version, under glass

both together would make me happy.
 
2013-10-26 02:01:03 PM

parasol: we spent 8 years governed by a President who never showed his birth certificate to our satisfaction


This is the type of fool to which I was referring.
 
2013-10-26 02:09:40 PM
This is news because a liberal rag needs liberal outrage to sell ad space.

Liberals, congratulations for unwittingly participating in capitalism.

That is all.
 
2013-10-26 02:12:49 PM

MrHappyRotter: Mugato: Why the fark is this person famous?

I think he's a gay porn star or something.  Or is he the guy that raped and murdered that girl back in the 90's?  I always get them confused.


wow. hating on gays is okay now? For fark sake.
 
2013-10-26 02:15:47 PM

Karac: hardinparamedic: Why is it that the best argument against the existence of the Master Race are the people who claim to be it's shining examples?

And why is it that someone who starts of his sentences "I'm not racist, but.." inevitably ends up coming off as a huge one?

[www.jlroberson.org image 440x232]


I don't know what that's from, but it's awesome.
 
2013-10-26 02:17:24 PM

tjfly: This is news because a liberal rag needs liberal outrage to sell ad space.

Liberals, congratulations for unwittingly participating in capitalism.

That is all.


HHuuurrr!!!  Librulz hate capitalism!!  DERP DERP DERP!
 
2013-10-26 02:17:43 PM
So.... Joe broke into the White House, stole Obama's Time machine, and went back to 1862?
 
2013-10-26 02:18:01 PM

tjfly: This is news because a liberal rag needs liberal outrage to sell ad space.

Liberals, congratulations for unwittingly participating in capitalism.

That is all.


Because all liberals are anti-capitalism.  They have to swear that oath during the initiation ceremony.  Your wit is nowhere near par.  Maybe you can claim a disability for it under Obamacare.
 
2013-10-26 02:18:04 PM

QU!RK1019: parasol: we spent 8 years governed by a President who never showed his birth certificate to our satisfaction

This is the type of fool to which I was referring.


It is foolish
At some point you have to realize a thing for what it is.
The man is president. Arguing over his eligibility to be so should have stopped long ago.
 
2013-10-26 02:19:45 PM

tjfly: This is news because a liberal rag needs liberal outrage to sell ad space.

Liberals, congratulations for unwittingly participating in capitalism.

That is all.


tjfly, congratulations for unwittingly participating in nondisjunction of the Holliday complex during DNA crossover.  Enjoy Trisomy 21 until you die.
 
2013-10-26 02:20:52 PM

Lionel Mandrake: tjfly: This is news because a liberal rag needs liberal outrage to sell ad space.

Liberals, congratulations for unwittingly participating in capitalism.

That is all.

HHuuurrr!!!  Librulz hate capitalism!!  DERP DERP DERP!


Ahem, he said "THAT IS ALL."

End of story, jack-o!
 
2013-10-26 02:21:21 PM

Flappyhead: Karac: hardinparamedic: Why is it that the best argument against the existence of the Master Race are the people who claim to be it's shining examples?

And why is it that someone who starts of his sentences "I'm not racist, but.." inevitably ends up coming off as a huge one?

[www.jlroberson.org image 440x232]

I don't know what that's from, but it's awesome.


A comic book called "Preacher."

It's about a small-town Texas minister who accidentally becomes as powerful as God.  So the Preacher decides to track down God and ask Him to His face why He made the world such a shiatty place.  His has an alcoholic Irish vampire as a sidekick.
 
2013-10-26 02:21:37 PM

parasol: QU!RK1019: parasol: we spent 8 years governed by a President who never showed his birth certificate to our satisfaction

This is the type of fool to which I was referring.

It is foolish
At some point you have to realize a thing for what it is.
The man is president. Arguing over his eligibility to be so should have stopped long ago.


Unless said president is black, of course.  Then it seems perfectly fine.  Like that NC GOP asshat from earlier this week.  Totally cool to still beat that birther drum, apparently.

But hey, don't blame him, the assholes in the crowd loved it so... White Republican bigotry is still strong.  And forever will be, no doubt.

Over / under on how many years before the GOP and the KKK merge?
 
2013-10-26 02:22:00 PM

parasol: QU!RK1019: parasol: we spent 8 years governed by a President who never showed his birth certificate to our satisfaction

This is the type of fool to which I was referring.

It is foolish
At some point you have to realize a thing for what it is.
The man is president. Arguing over his eligibility to be so should have stopped long ago.


He's not THEIR President.  Their President was cheated out of the White House by those evil liberals and their evil wiles.
 
2013-10-26 02:22:20 PM

Lionel Mandrake: badhatharry: Can we please see your birth certificate? Pretty please? Tough questions.
I know, I know,  I'm racist because he is black.

I would like to know why, after more than 200 years of Presidential elections, asking for a birth certificate suddenly became a thing.  Can you tell me why?

And if it's legit, why didn't all the totally not racist teabaggers swarm McCain or Romney demanding birth certificates?


You might be surprised to know that It's not a new thing. It's been a thing for 200 years.
 
2013-10-26 02:24:23 PM

badhatharry: Lionel Mandrake: badhatharry: Can we please see your birth certificate? Pretty please? Tough questions.
I know, I know,  I'm racist because he is black.

I would like to know why, after more than 200 years of Presidential elections, asking for a birth certificate suddenly became a thing.  Can you tell me why?

And if it's legit, why didn't all the totally not racist teabaggers swarm McCain or Romney demanding birth certificates?

You might be surprised to know that It's not a new thing. It's been a thing for 200 years.


And Romney did have his own birthers. Back in 1967.
 
2013-10-26 02:24:45 PM

badhatharry: Lionel Mandrake: badhatharry: Can we please see your birth certificate? Pretty please? Tough questions.
I know, I know,  I'm racist because he is black.

I would like to know why, after more than 200 years of Presidential elections, asking for a birth certificate suddenly became a thing.  Can you tell me why?

And if it's legit, why didn't all the totally not racist teabaggers swarm McCain or Romney demanding birth certificates?

You might be surprised to know that It's not a new thing. It's been a thing for 200 years.


So has mongoloidism.  And thank you for exhibiting it.

//could you please dig up an article where one party constantly questions the birth certificate authenticity of: Reagan, Carter, Nixon, Bush, Bush II, Kennedy, Ford, Truman, Eisenhower, FDR, Coolige, Hoover, Wilson, Clinton, etc, etc?
 
2013-10-26 02:26:16 PM

badhatharry: badhatharry: Lionel Mandrake: badhatharry: Can we please see your birth certificate? Pretty please? Tough questions.
I know, I know,  I'm racist because he is black.

I would like to know why, after more than 200 years of Presidential elections, asking for a birth certificate suddenly became a thing.  Can you tell me why?

And if it's legit, why didn't all the totally not racist teabaggers swarm McCain or Romney demanding birth certificates?

You might be surprised to know that It's not a new thing. It's been a thing for 200 years.

And Romney did have his own birthers. Back in 1967.


Not excusing it, but um, it's a slightly more legitimate question since he was in fact born outside the god damn country.
 
2013-10-26 02:26:36 PM

badhatharry: Lionel Mandrake: badhatharry: Can we please see your birth certificate? Pretty please? Tough questions.
I know, I know,  I'm racist because he is black.

I would like to know why, after more than 200 years of Presidential elections, asking for a birth certificate suddenly became a thing.  Can you tell me why?

And if it's legit, why didn't all the totally not racist teabaggers swarm McCain or Romney demanding birth certificates?

You might be surprised to know that It's not a new thing. It's been a thing for 200 years.


Yeah, I remember thinking to myself "why are the Democrats making a big stink about Romney's birth certificate, don't they know it makes them look like a toothless hillbilly" every time it happened.

Which was 0 times.  Go away, troll.
 
2013-10-26 02:29:06 PM

badhatharry: badhatharry: Lionel Mandrake: badhatharry: Can we please see your birth certificate? Pretty please? Tough questions.
I know, I know,  I'm racist because he is black.

I would like to know why, after more than 200 years of Presidential elections, asking for a birth certificate suddenly became a thing.  Can you tell me why?

And if it's legit, why didn't all the totally not racist teabaggers swarm McCain or Romney demanding birth certificates?

You might be surprised to know that It's not a new thing. It's been a thing for 200 years.

And Romney did have his own birthers. Back in 1967.


Romney didn't win the presidency - twice
The larger question is - at what point do you stop questioning the eligibility of an elected president?
 
2013-10-26 02:30:49 PM

parasol: The larger question is - at what point do you stop questioning the eligibility of an elected president?


When he agrees to stop being a n***** on a sunny day.
 
2013-10-26 02:31:19 PM

badhatharry: Lionel Mandrake: badhatharry: Can we please see your birth certificate? Pretty please? Tough questions.
I know, I know,  I'm racist because he is black.

I would like to know why, after more than 200 years of Presidential elections, asking for a birth certificate suddenly became a thing.  Can you tell me why?

And if it's legit, why didn't all the totally not racist teabaggers swarm McCain or Romney demanding birth certificates?

You might be surprised to know that It's not a new thing. It's been a thing for 200 years.


Bullshiat.

But I will be happy to look over any "proof" you care to provide.
 
2013-10-26 02:31:37 PM
The irony is that bathatharry is the production company name of a gay progressive director / writer / producter named Bryan Singer who has produced fictional accounts of the attrocities of the Nazis several times.  Probably never thought his production company namesake would be known in an internet forum as a bigoted liar.
 
2013-10-26 02:31:41 PM

Flappyhead: Karac: hardinparamedic: Why is it that the best argument against the existence of the Master Race are the people who claim to be it's shining examples?

And why is it that someone who starts of his sentences "I'm not racist, but.." inevitably ends up coming off as a huge one?

[www.jlroberson.org image 440x232]

I don't know what that's from, but it's awesome.


Garth Ennis's Preacher.

I'm saving this pic from that series for the eventual Supreme Court decision overturning all state bans on gay marriage.
 
2013-10-26 02:32:13 PM

parasol: badhatharry: badhatharry: Lionel Mandrake: badhatharry: Can we please see your birth certificate? Pretty please? Tough questions.
I know, I know,  I'm racist because he is black.

I would like to know why, after more than 200 years of Presidential elections, asking for a birth certificate suddenly became a thing.  Can you tell me why?

And if it's legit, why didn't all the totally not racist teabaggers swarm McCain or Romney demanding birth certificates?

You might be surprised to know that It's not a new thing. It's been a thing for 200 years.

And Romney did have his own birthers. Back in 1967.

Romney didn't win the presidency - twice
The larger question is - at what point do you stop questioning the eligibility of an elected president?


When he released his god damned birth certificate. But enough about that. This thread is about racist democrats.
 
2013-10-26 02:33:32 PM

badhatharry: parasol: badhatharry: badhatharry: Lionel Mandrake: badhatharry: Can we please see your birth certificate? Pretty please? Tough questions.
I know, I know,  I'm racist because he is black.

I would like to know why, after more than 200 years of Presidential elections, asking for a birth certificate suddenly became a thing.  Can you tell me why?

And if it's legit, why didn't all the totally not racist teabaggers swarm McCain or Romney demanding birth certificates?

You might be surprised to know that It's not a new thing. It's been a thing for 200 years.

And Romney did have his own birthers. Back in 1967.

Romney didn't win the presidency - twice
The larger question is - at what point do you stop questioning the eligibility of an elected president?

When he released his god damned birth certificate. But enough about that. This thread is about racist democrats.


"Stop questioning my lies!!"
 
2013-10-26 02:34:23 PM

badhatharry: parasol: badhatharry: badhatharry: Lionel Mandrake: badhatharry: Can we please see your birth certificate? Pretty please? Tough questions.
I know, I know,  I'm racist because he is black.

I would like to know why, after more than 200 years of Presidential elections, asking for a birth certificate suddenly became a thing.  Can you tell me why?

And if it's legit, why didn't all the totally not racist teabaggers swarm McCain or Romney demanding birth certificates?

You might be surprised to know that It's not a new thing. It's been a thing for 200 years.

And Romney did have his own birthers. Back in 1967.

Romney didn't win the presidency - twice
The larger question is - at what point do you stop questioning the eligibility of an elected president?

When he released his god damned birth certificate. But enough about that. This thread is about racist democrats.


So, that happened, yet you still question it.  So, you're lying....again.  And you're being really dumb about it, too.

And, jeez, there's just so much stupid here, the thread is about an idiot projecting his racism.
 
2013-10-26 02:35:19 PM

badhatharry: parasol: badhatharry: badhatharry: Lionel Mandrake: badhatharry: Can we please see your birth certificate? Pretty please? Tough questions.
I know, I know,  I'm racist because he is black.

I would like to know why, after more than 200 years of Presidential elections, asking for a birth certificate suddenly became a thing.  Can you tell me why?

And if it's legit, why didn't all the totally not racist teabaggers swarm McCain or Romney demanding birth certificates?

You might be surprised to know that It's not a new thing. It's been a thing for 200 years.

And Romney did have his own birthers. Back in 1967.

Romney didn't win the presidency - twice
The larger question is - at what point do you stop questioning the eligibility of an elected president?

When he released his god damned birth certificate. But enough about that. This thread is about racist democrats.


Really, that's when you stopped?
img.fark.net

Because it doesn't look like that's when you stopped.
 
2013-10-26 02:36:31 PM

badhatharry: When he released his god damned birth certificate.


You're thinking of George Romney.  Mitt's birthplace was never in question

Just like he himself said
 
2013-10-26 02:38:02 PM
parasol: The larger question is - at what point do you stop questioning the eligibility of an elected president?

Duh, when he becomes a white Republican silly.
 
2013-10-26 02:39:41 PM

Karac: badhatharry: parasol: badhatharry: badhatharry: Lionel Mandrake: badhatharry: Can we please see your birth certificate? Pretty please? Tough questions.
I know, I know,  I'm racist because he is black.

I would like to know why, after more than 200 years of Presidential elections, asking for a birth certificate suddenly became a thing.  Can you tell me why?

And if it's legit, why didn't all the totally not racist teabaggers swarm McCain or Romney demanding birth certificates?

You might be surprised to know that It's not a new thing. It's been a thing for 200 years.

And Romney did have his own birthers. Back in 1967.

Romney didn't win the presidency - twice
The larger question is - at what point do you stop questioning the eligibility of an elected president?

When he released his god damned birth certificate. But enough about that. This thread is about racist democrats.

Really, that's when you stopped?
[img.fark.net image 850x608]

Because it doesn't look like that's when you stopped.


Well done.

nyrb.typepad.com

I imagine we'll get Cletus C. to give up in similar fashion about Benghazi and then catch him in a lie too.
 
2013-10-26 02:41:11 PM

badhatharry: parasol: badhatharry: badhatharry: Lionel Mandrake: badhatharry: Can we please see your birth certificate? Pretty please? Tough questions.
I know, I know,  I'm racist because he is black.

I would like to know why, after more than 200 years of Presidential elections, asking for a birth certificate suddenly became a thing.  Can you tell me why?

And if it's legit, why didn't all the totally not racist teabaggers swarm McCain or Romney demanding birth certificates?

You might be surprised to know that It's not a new thing. It's been a thing for 200 years.

And Romney did have his own birthers. Back in 1967.

Romney didn't win the presidency - twice
The larger question is - at what point do you stop questioning the eligibility of an elected president?

When he released his god damned birth certificate. But enough about that. This thread is about racist democrats.


were that true it would be a much shorter thread
 
2013-10-26 02:44:03 PM

parasol: badhatharry: parasol: badhatharry: badhatharry: Lionel Mandrake: badhatharry: Can we please see your birth certificate? Pretty please? Tough questions.
I know, I know,  I'm racist because he is black.

I would like to know why, after more than 200 years of Presidential elections, asking for a birth certificate suddenly became a thing.  Can you tell me why?

And if it's legit, why didn't all the totally not racist teabaggers swarm McCain or Romney demanding birth certificates?

You might be surprised to know that It's not a new thing. It's been a thing for 200 years.

And Romney did have his own birthers. Back in 1967.

Romney didn't win the presidency - twice
The larger question is - at what point do you stop questioning the eligibility of an elected president?

When he released his god damned birth certificate. But enough about that. This thread is about racist democrats.

were that true it would be a much shorter thread


I must be a racist white democrat.  I spent 3 years in Africa and then gave up on black people and came home because I couldn't help them change their fortunes.

//or because my terms of Peace Corps service were up
 
2013-10-26 02:45:21 PM
So the republican story is still blacks are to stupid to realize that liberals are the real racists?
 
2013-10-26 02:46:48 PM

hardinparamedic: Gecko Gingrich: Well, to be fair, Southern Democrats are Democrats.

Not since 1964.


Even before then, the conservatives who took control of the Republican Party had begun parroting the language of the Southern Democrats.

One of these quotes is from "The Southern Manifesto," which was a document signed by Southern Democrats who opposed the Brown v. Board of Education decision.  The other quote is from Barry Goldwater's "The Conscience of a Conservative."


The intentions of the Fourteenth Amendment's authors are perfectly clear. Consider these facts. 1.During the entire congressional debate on the Fourteenth Amendment it was never once suggested by any proponent of the amendment that it would outlaw segregated schools. 2. At the same time that it approved the Fourteenth Amendment, Congress established schools in Washington in Georgetown "for the sole use of... colored children."3. In all the debates on the amendment by the State Legislatures there was only one legislator, a man in Indiana, who thought the amendment would affect schools 4. The great majority of the States that approved the amendment permitted or required segregated schools at the very time they approved the amendment. There is not room here for exhaustive treatment of this evidence, but the facts are well documented, and they are all we have to know about the Fourteenth Amendment's bearing on this problem. The amendment was not intended to,and therefore it did not outlaw racially separate schools. It was not intended to, and therefore it did not, authorize
any federal intervention in the field of education.


"The original Constitution does not mention education. Neither does the 14th amendment nor any other amendment. The debates preceding the submission of the 14th amendment clearly show that there was no intent that it should affect the systems of education maintained by the States.
The very Congress which proposed the amendment subsequently provided for segregated schools in the District of Columbia.
When the amendment was adopted, in 1868, there were 37 States of the Union. Every one of the 26 States that had any substantial racial differences among its people either approved the operation of segregated schools already in existence or subsequently established such schools by action of the same lawmaking body which considered the 14th amendment.
Though there has been no constitutional amendment or act of Congress changing this established legal principle almost a century old, the Supreme Court of the United States, with no legal basis for such action, undertook to exercise their naked judicial power and substituted their personal political and social ideas for the established law of the land.
This unwarranted exercise of power by the Court, contrary to the Constitution, is creating chaos and confusion in the States principally affected. It is destroying the amicable relations between the white and Negro races that have been created through 90 years of patient effort by the good people of both races. It has planted hatred and suspicion where there has been heretofore friendship and understanding."

It's awfully hard to tell them apart. . .
 
2013-10-26 02:50:46 PM

Karac: badhatharry: parasol: badhatharry: badhatharry: Lionel Mandrake: badhatharry: Can we please see your birth certificate? Pretty please? Tough questions.
I know, I know,  I'm racist because he is black.

I would like to know why, after more than 200 years of Presidential elections, asking for a birth certificate suddenly became a thing.  Can you tell me why?

And if it's legit, why didn't all the totally not racist teabaggers swarm McCain or Romney demanding birth certificates?

You might be surprised to know that It's not a new thing. It's been a thing for 200 years.

And Romney did have his own birthers. Back in 1967.

Romney didn't win the presidency - twice
The larger question is - at what point do you stop questioning the eligibility of an elected president?

When he released his god damned birth certificate. But enough about that. This thread is about racist democrats.

Really, that's when you stopped?
[img.fark.net image 850x608]

Because it doesn't look like that's when you stopped.


That thread is from January 2010. Obama released his birth certificate in April 2011.
 
2013-10-26 02:53:35 PM

spaten: Being anti-collectivist is not racist.


Sure it is - if you're not for tribalism, then you hate the tribes, ergo you're a racist.

See how easy that was? I didn't even have to think.
 
2013-10-26 02:54:28 PM

badhatharry: That thread is from January 2010. Obama released his birth certificate in April 2011.


you should check that one more time.
 
2013-10-26 02:58:04 PM
Also from Goldwater:

"It so happens that I am in agreement with the  objectivesof the Supreme Court as stated in the
Brown  decision. I believe that itisboth wise and just for negro children to attend the same schools as whites, and that to deny them this opportunity carries with it strong implications of inferiority. I am not prepared, however, to impose that judgment of mine on the people of Mississippi or South Carolina, or to tell them what methods should be adopted and what pace should be kept in striving toward that goal. That is their business, not mine. I believe that the problem of race relations, like all social and cultural problems, is best handled by the people directly concerned. Social and cultural change, however desirable, should not be effected by the engines of national power. Let us, through persuasion and education, seek to improve institutions we deem defective. But let us, in doing so, respect the orderly processes of the law. Any other course enthrones tyrants and dooms freedom."

That argument certainly helped in the realignment of the mid-20th Century, but it's also a huge cop-out; handling integration as a "local problem" never would've worked, because most of the people involved couldn't vote at the time.

Adopting the language of the Southern Democrats was all part of Goldwater's strategy to "go hunting where the ducks are."

http://www.saturdayeveningpost.com/wp-content/uploads/satevepost/196 3- 08-24.pdf

And it worked; in '64 LBJ was so unpopular in the South that Alabama wouldn't even let his name appear on the ballot.
 
2013-10-26 02:59:42 PM

abb3w: In the south, there likely still are areas where "Dixiecrat" white democrats are prevalent, and more racist than the local GOP; and there may be some subtle forms of racism that are more common among Democrats than Republicans.

However, in the country as a whole, there's a lot more tendency to unsubtle racism among Republicans than among Democrats.



Why do people do this???

There aren't many areas of the south where democrats are prevalent, period... Even in those that exist, there would be little evidence or criteria by which to measure, much less assume, that they are more racist than the local GOP.

It's an entirely baseless and completely counterintuitive proposition... some mythical "Land That Time Forgot," somewhere in the middle of south Georgia, in which all the Democrats are holdovers from the 1950's and 60's, and all the Republicans are holdovers from the 1850's and 60's.

It's complete false equivalence nonsense on its very face, and yet it's offered up like some kind of olive branch token of goodwill gesture in a willingness to meet in the middle. "We'll plead guilty to racism on our side, if you'll acknowledge guilt of racism on your side."

How many times must people go down that road before recognizing that conservatives don't give two shiats about your goodwill gestures or your olive branches?

You cede ground, and they just move further away while shouting "see! Even THEY admit that they're the real racists! Even THEY acknowledge that the Dixie democrats are more racist than southern republicans!"

There is no good reason to hypothetically pretend that democrats might be more racist than republicans in some places or in some ways. It's obviously untrue and they don't appreciate the willingness to meet in some "nobody's perfect" middle ground.
 
2013-10-26 03:00:33 PM

Godscrack: yeah fark off already 15 minute closeted skinhead.


Closeted???
 
2013-10-26 03:02:05 PM

technicolor-misfit: abb3w: In the south, there likely still are areas where "Dixiecrat" white democrats are prevalent, and more racist than the local GOP; and there may be some subtle forms of racism that are more common among Democrats than Republicans.

However, in the country as a whole, there's a lot more tendency to unsubtle racism among Republicans than among Democrats.


Why do people do this???

There aren't many areas of the south where democrats are prevalent, period... Even in those that exist, there would be little evidence or criteria by which to measure, much less assume, that they are more racist than the local GOP.

It's an entirely baseless and completely counterintuitive proposition... some mythical "Land That Time Forgot," somewhere in the middle of south Georgia, in which all the Democrats are holdovers from the 1950's and 60's, and all the Republicans are holdovers from the 1850's and 60's.

It's complete false equivalence nonsense on its very face, and yet it's offered up like some kind of olive branch token of goodwill gesture in a willingness to meet in the middle. "We'll plead guilty to racism on our side, if you'll acknowledge guilt of racism on your side."

How many times must people go down that road before recognizing that conservatives don't give two shiats about your goodwill gestures or your olive branches?

You cede ground, and they just move further away while shouting "see! Even THEY admit that they're the real racists! Even THEY acknowledge that the Dixie democrats are more racist than southern republicans!"

There is no good reason to hypothetically pretend that democrats might be more racist than republicans in some places or in some ways. It's obviously untrue and they don't appreciate the willingness to meet in some "nobody's perfect" middle ground.


Este x infinity
 
2013-10-26 03:04:40 PM

Phil Moskowitz: I remember a day when dumb Americans were embarrassed about how stupid they were and they kept their mouth shut.


I am 32 and do not remember that day.
 
2013-10-26 03:06:50 PM

abb3w: In the south, there likely still are areas where "Dixiecrat" white democrats are prevalent, and more racist than the local GOP; and there may be some subtle forms of racism that are more common among Democrats than Republicans.

However, in the country as a whole, there's a lot more tendency to unsubtle racism among Republicans than among Democrats.


For what it's worth, the "Blue Dog Coalition" is down to 14 members; there are 18 member of the Congressional Black Caucus from Southern House districts.
 
2013-10-26 03:08:19 PM

The Flexecutioner: badhatharry: That thread is from January 2010. Obama released his birth certificate in April 2011.

you should check that one more time.


Sorry, thread was from January 2011. Thanks for not calling me a liar.
 
2013-10-26 03:08:54 PM

HighOnCraic: abb3w: In the south, there likely still are areas where "Dixiecrat" white democrats are prevalent, and more racist than the local GOP; and there may be some subtle forms of racism that are more common among Democrats than Republicans.

However, in the country as a whole, there's a lot more tendency to unsubtle racism among Republicans than among Democrats.

For what it's worth, the "Blue Dog Coalition" is down to 14 members; there are 18 members of the Congressional Black Caucus from Southern House districts.

d'oh!

 
2013-10-26 03:16:48 PM
Are y'all sure this "badhatharry is a birther" horse isn't dead enough?  Better keep beating it, just to be sure.
 
2013-10-26 03:16:51 PM
The irony is that black Democrats will one day realize the racism from their white handlers and, blacks will bite the hand that feeds them.

I'm sure this has already been mentioned but, wow, holy shiat racist statement
 
2013-10-26 03:20:38 PM
BUCHANAN: Well, I agree, I mean, I'll tell you why many African- Americans vote Democratic is because, you know, the federal government stopped, ended slavery, it ended segregation, it supported civil rights, supports affirmative action. But the Feds did that and they tend to believe in the federal government as a good, powerful positive institution, it's on our side. And Hannity and Buchanan and these guys are constantly knocking it, and that's why we are against them. So, that's an understandable position.

http://www.hannity.com/article/pat-buchanan-s-controversial-suicide- of -a-superpower/14486

/But I'm sure that Republicans will stop attacking the Federal government any day now.  Any day now. . .

See also:

"From Day One, Nixon and I talked about creating a new majority," Buchanan told me recently, sitting in the library of his Greek-revival house in McLean, Virginia, on a secluded lane bordering the fenced grounds of the Central Intelligence Agency. "What we talked about, basically, was shearing off huge segments of F.D.R.'s New Deal coalition, which L.B.J. had held together: Northern Catholic ethnics and Southern Protestant conservatives-what we called the Daley-Rizzo Democrats in the North and, frankly, the Wallace Democrats in the South." Buchanan grew up in Washington, D.C., among the first group-men like his father, an accountant and a father of nine, who had supported Roosevelt but also revered Joseph McCarthy. The Southerners were the kind of men whom Nixon whipped into a frenzy one night in the fall of 1966, at the Wade Hampton Hotel, in Columbia, South Carolina. Nixon, who was then a partner in a New York law firm, had travelled there with Buchanan on behalf of Republican congressional candidates. Buchanan recalls that the room was full of sweat, cigar smoke, and rage; the rhetoric, which was about patriotism and law and order, "burned the paint off the walls." As they left the hotel, Nixon said, "This is the future of this Party, right here in the South."

Nixon was coldly mixing and pouring volatile passions. Although he was careful to renounce the extreme fringe of Birchites and racists, his means to power eventually became the end. Buchanan gave me a copy of a seven-page confidential memorandum-"A little raw for today," he warned-that he had written for Nixon in 1971, under the heading "Dividing the Democrats." Drawn up with an acute understanding of the fragilities and fault lines in "the Old Roosevelt Coalition," it recommended that the White House "exacerbate the ideological division" between the Old and New Left by praising Democrats who supported any of Nixon's policies; highlight "the elitism and quasi-anti-Americanism of the National Democratic Party"; nominate for the Supreme Court a Southern strict constructionist who would divide Democrats regionally; use abortion and parochial-school aid to deepen the split between Catholics and social liberals; elicit white working-class support with tax relief and denunciations of welfare. Finally, the memo recommended exploiting racial tensions among Democrats. "Bumper stickers calling for black Presidential and especially Vice-Presidential candidates should be spread out in the ghettoes of the country," Buchanan wrote. "We should do what is within our power to have a black nominated for Number Two, at least at the Democratic National Convention." Such gambits, he added, could "cut the Democratic Party and country in half; my view is that we would have far the larger half."

http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2008/05/26/080526fa_fact_packer?cu r rentPage=all">http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2008/05/26/080526fa_ fact_packer?cur rentPage=all
 
2013-10-26 03:44:10 PM
Started reading the article for the lulz.

"...Democrat party..."

[stoppedreadingthere.jpg]
 
2013-10-26 03:47:32 PM
At least conservatives aren't as openly racist as they used to be . . .

http://www.amren.com/news/2012/04/the-decline-of-national-review/
 
2013-10-26 03:48:04 PM

the_vegetarian_cannibal: TheJoe03: Well it is true that places like Boston and Philly are probably more racist than places like Dallas and Atlanta, but then again those are all Democratic cities. It does annoy me that people somehow think racism is relegated to only the south when that is far from true. That is of course not what this dummy is thinking but to me it is an important issue in the US. I feel some folks in the North and West use the South to deflect from their own racial problems at times.

Both the North and South have racism but they handle and express it in different ways. Having lived in both regions for many years, I can honestly say that the old adage, "Northern whites don't mind blacks being uppity as long as they don't live nearby, Southern whites don't mind blacks living nearby as long as they aren't uppity" really rings true.


Goes deeper than that. Southerners can never be sure who is being `uppity'.  All one can say with accuracy is that there was a whole lot of `miscegenation' going on for a very long time (that many Southern `women of color' moved North from the Jim Crow South as filing rape charges against white males, in many instances, was `problematic' - I'm sure there is a revisionist out there who will go on for 600 pages about how all that interbreeding during the slavery era was nothing but `love' matches'' (First Lady is a distant result of such).

Argument AGAINST enshrining the `one drop' rule in the South Carolina Constitution in 1895 (one drop of `Negro' blood makes one Black?):

"If the law is made as it now stands respectable families in Aiken, Barnwell, Colleton, and Orangeburg will be denied the right to intermarry among people with whom they are now associated and identified. At least one hundred families would be affected to my knowledge. They have sent good soldiers to the Confederate Army, and are now landowners and taxpayers. Those men served creditably, and it would be unjust and disgraceful to embarrass them in this way. It is a scientific fact that there is not one full-blooded Caucasian on the floor of this convention. Every member has in him a certain mixture of... colored blood. The pure-blooded white has needed and received a certain infusion of darker blood to give him readiness and purpose. It would be a cruel injustice and the source of endless litigation, of scandal, horror, feud, and bloodshed to undertake to annul or forbid marriage for a remote, perhaps obsolete trace of Negro blood. The doors would be open to scandal, malice, and greed; to statements on the witness stand that the father or grandfather or grandmother had said that A or B had Negro blood in their veins. Any man who is half a man would be ready to blow up half the world with dynamite to prevent or avenge attacks upon the honor of his mother in the legitimacy or purity of the blood of his father."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/One-drop_rule

/be proud of your heritage my Southern friends
 
2013-10-26 03:50:27 PM

QU!RK1019: Are y'all sure this "badhatharry is a birther" horse isn't dead enough?  Better keep beating it, just to be sure.


It's only one of dozens of conspiracies he believes.  He's a gullible rube who will spend the rest of his sad life crapping his pants in fear of reality.  He's also a dick, so the appropriate response is mockery, not sympathy.

badhatharry: There is a definite increase in autism. Even after removing mercury from the vaccines it is still increasing. ... I think it is a mix of genetics and environment and maybe even vaccines.


badhatharry: I do think that alien beings have visited Earth in the past and may still visit. There are many sightings by credible witnesses, including airline pilots and scientists. There are many references throughout history of flying craft before 1900.


badhatharry: I have seen a ghost. You would believe in them if you saw one.

 
2013-10-26 03:53:46 PM

Precious Roy's Horse Dividers: I hate to agree with Joe in any way, but in my little corner of NEPA the local government is largely Democrats and this is the most racist area I have ever lived in. That said, Sam is a major league dickbag, and my experience is with local politics in Pennsyltucky and likely does not reflect the national landscape.



It's the same way here in most of Northern Ohio.  Though it's a lot more surreptitious up here than what I've experienced in the South.
 
2013-10-26 03:59:29 PM

Smeggy Smurf: He has a point.  How many Democrats believe that blacks cannot compete with whites on a level playing field?  It's all about affirmative action and quotas as though the color of your skin actually matter if you're capable of doing the job or not.  Soft racism of low expectations is still racism.


Much of the conservative propaganda of the 50s and 60s argued that the playing field should NEVER be level, and any attempt to make it so would lead to the Communization of America.

The Council and Weaver's belief was that making the society materialistic moved it 
toward Communism where racial, cultural, social, and moral differences disappear and there are 
only economic differences. Weaver stated that integration and "Communization" are closely 
synonymous words and ideas, with "the first being little more than a euphemism for the second." 
Weaver argued against social conformity, because he argued that when you integrate, you are 
close to "communizing" facilities. He attacked the liberal press for denying the "reality" that 
"Moscow is piping the tune; the American professoriate is beating time; and we are beginning to 
dance to it."175 Weaver provided three propositions of truth which the Council highlighted in 
bold print for its readers: "1) Integration is not an end in itself. 2) Forcible integration would 
ignore the truth that equals are not identicals. 3) In a free society, associations for educational, 
cultural, social, and business purposes have a right to protect their integrity against political 
fanaticism. The alternative to this is the destruction of free society and the replacement of its 
functions by government, which is the Marxist dream."176 

Integration was also considered to be un-Christian:

Manipulation is also demonstrated by a minister who attacked the devil terms posed by 
the opposition by telling how such terms were actually god terms. The minister backed up his 
position with one of the highest sources possible in defending a god term, Jesus Christ. The 
minister stated that Jesus himself demonstrated the "most complete and devastating 
discriminatory practices that can ever be exercised."86 Thus, the minister posed the point that if 
a person attacked discrimination, he is also attacking Jesus and the doctrines of the Christian 
church. Not only that, the minister bluntly stated that if anyone accepts the principle of 
integration then they "cease to be Christians."

/Yeah, it's been a long time, but too many generations were raised to believe this kind of stuff, and this mentality didn't just disappear in 1964.

http://ac-journal.org/journal/2008/Summer/5CitizensCouncil.pdf
 
2013-10-26 04:12:20 PM

jjorsett: TV's Vinnie: It's been FIVE GOD DAMN YEARS since this skinhead deadbeat got lucky in front of a news camera! How much longer must we put up with his sh*t?!

As long as the mere mention of his name continues to drive lefties over the edge, which, judging from what I'm seeing on this thread, is forever.


It drives "lefties" (and just about anyone with a functioning brain stem) "over the edge" because he's a vile, horrible excuse for a human being, and yet there are idiots clamoring around him to absorb every hideous word that comes tumbling out of that mouth of his.
 
2013-10-26 04:18:28 PM

chimp_ninja: QU!RK1019: Are y'all sure this "badhatharry is a birther" horse isn't dead enough?  Better keep beating it, just to be sure.

It's only one of dozens of conspiracies he believes.  He's a gullible rube who will spend the rest of his sad life crapping his pants in fear of reality.  He's also a dick, so the appropriate response is mockery, not sympathy.

badhatharry: There is a definite increase in autism. Even after removing mercury from the vaccines it is still increasing. ... I think it is a mix of genetics and environment and maybe even vaccines.

badhatharry: I do think that alien beings have visited Earth in the past and may still visit. There are many sightings by credible witnesses, including airline pilots and scientists. There are many references throughout history of flying craft before 1900.

badhatharry: I have seen a ghost. You would believe in them if you saw one.


LOL ok, point taken.
 
2013-10-26 04:21:01 PM

chimp_ninja: QU!RK1019: Are y'all sure this "badhatharry is a birther" horse isn't dead enough?  Better keep beating it, just to be sure.

It's only one of dozens of conspiracies he believes.  He's a gullible rube who will spend the rest of his sad life crapping his pants in fear of reality.  He's also a dick, so the appropriate response is mockery, not sympathy.

badhatharry: There is a definite increase in autism. Even after removing mercury from the vaccines it is still increasing. ... I think it is a mix of genetics and environment and maybe even vaccines.

badhatharry: I do think that alien beings have visited Earth in the past and may still visit. There are many sightings by credible witnesses, including airline pilots and scientists. There are many references throughout history of flying craft before 1900.

badhatharry: I have seen a ghost. You would believe in them if you saw one.


Oh no, I actually will lend credence to one of those.  There is a non-zero chance of intelligent alien life, so I'm not ruling out the possibility of UFOs.  Fark can judge me as they will.
 
2013-10-26 04:23:52 PM
Racism is a common human condition and effects almost everyone to some degree.  The reason I believe most unabashed racists are republicans is because 1)Republicans are more common and popular in states where slavery and racism made their last stand.  2) Between the only two major political parties the republican line is the one most compatible with a racist mentality.  3) A politician is unlikely to say or do something to upset a guaranteed voting block even when they might personally disagree with it(Remember Ron Paul's dodge on his newsletter?).  4)  The African American vote is by percentage an almost completely Democrat voting base, thus fomenting the bi-polar nature of the two parties on both sides.

My humble suggestions:

Limit political donations and require full disclosure of contributors.  Big money has a corrosive influence and allowing anonymous donations undermines accountability.  This will also level the field for candidates with smaller bankrolls.

Plurality with elimination  Open the voting booth up to more candidates and allow people to vote for them without the risk of simply wasting their vote.  More competition is better for the consumer right?  Let's let the free market decided who our choices will be instead of just two primary caucuses.


Racism has it's roots in human judgement however a great deal of it is reinforced by family upbringing and environment.  I firmly believe that racism will fade as generations of humans come and go.  My grandmother believed that African Americans should know their place.  My father showed no signs of racism at all, and I've had many friends and even a few girlfriends of varied ethnicity.  This process isn't occurring everywhere at the same time and the same pace but I do believe it is happening.  Society is changing, it's just that our old people aren't.  So as their influence wanes and the younger generation waxes politicians will eventually be encouraged to come along with them.  That said, I do expect to see radical racism become more extreme as it becomes more isolated in the meantime.  The question isn't about how or when racism would ever end for either party, but how much social and political influence it will be allowed to have.
 
2013-10-26 04:26:30 PM

sugardave: chimp_ninja: QU!RK1019: Are y'all sure this "badhatharry is a birther" horse isn't dead enough?  Better keep beating it, just to be sure.

It's only one of dozens of conspiracies he believes.  He's a gullible rube who will spend the rest of his sad life crapping his pants in fear of reality.  He's also a dick, so the appropriate response is mockery, not sympathy.

badhatharry: There is a definite increase in autism. Even after removing mercury from the vaccines it is still increasing. ... I think it is a mix of genetics and environment and maybe even vaccines.

badhatharry: I do think that alien beings have visited Earth in the past and may still visit. There are many sightings by credible witnesses, including airline pilots and scientists. There are many references throughout history of flying craft before 1900.

badhatharry: I have seen a ghost. You would believe in them if you saw one.

Oh no, I actually will lend credence to one of those.  There is a non-zero chance of intelligent alien life, so I'm not ruling out the possibility of UFOs.  Fark can judge me as they will.


I've changed my opinion on autism somewhat. Cable tv might have something to do with it. I'm pretty sure SpongeBob Squarepants rots kids' brains. And I'm not a dick.
 
2013-10-26 04:38:50 PM

badhatharry: sugardave: chimp_ninja: QU!RK1019: Are y'all sure this "badhatharry is a birther" horse isn't dead enough?  Better keep beating it, just to be sure.

It's only one of dozens of conspiracies he believes.  He's a gullible rube who will spend the rest of his sad life crapping his pants in fear of reality.  He's also a dick, so the appropriate response is mockery, not sympathy.

badhatharry: There is a definite increase in autism. Even after removing mercury from the vaccines it is still increasing. ... I think it is a mix of genetics and environment and maybe even vaccines.

badhatharry: I do think that alien beings have visited Earth in the past and may still visit. There are many sightings by credible witnesses, including airline pilots and scientists. There are many references throughout history of flying craft before 1900.

badhatharry: I have seen a ghost. You would believe in them if you saw one.

Oh no, I actually will lend credence to one of those.  There is a non-zero chance of intelligent alien life, so I'm not ruling out the possibility of UFOs.  Fark can judge me as they will.

I've changed my opinion on autism somewhat. Cable tv might have something to do with it. I'm pretty sure SpongeBob Squarepants rots kids' brains. And I'm not a dick.


Uh.....let's go to the judges.
 
2013-10-26 05:49:12 PM
This is the true cost of slavery.  For over a century the US sought out not just slaves, but particular types of slaves to work the plantations.  They needed strong slaves, not smart ones, or ambitious ones.  The slave had to be just smart enough to do the work but not so smart they'd realize they got dealt a really shiatty hand in life and then revolt.  This played out as a practical matter when smarter Africans began dominating and then selling their dumber brethren to white people.

To add insult to injury, we bred and conditioned the slaves to be non-people.  Their existence was an extension of their master.  Without a master, a slave had no purpose, no life, no reason to exist.  A slave was not his own person.

So we had a war about it, and when we were all finished half of the country let former slaves go about their business and the other half kept them repressed with shadowy laws that let them know they were still under someone's boot.  That persisted for a century, and in the 1960's the government stepped in and said "hey, you got a bad lot in life, come with me and I'll make sure you're taken care of."

What no one realized is that the kind-hearted government had just replaced a hard boot with a soft one.  No one taught the descendants of the former slaves that they didn't have to be an extension of a master.  Instead, they just created a new one:  the government.  It was win-win for a while, the slave mentality had a new master to swear fealty to and politicians had votes wrapped up for eternity.  But in the long run there's still that slave mentality, coursing just beneath the surface.  Even worse, that mentality is being hardened under the illusion of making men "more free."
 
2013-10-26 06:12:32 PM

scottnance: This is the true cost of slavery.  For over a century the US sought out not just slaves, but particular types of slaves to work the plantations.  They needed strong slaves, not smart ones, or ambitious ones.  The slave had to be just smart enough to do the work but not so smart they'd realize they got dealt a really shiatty hand in life and then revolt.  This played out as a practical matter when smarter Africans began dominating and then selling their dumber brethren to white people.

To add insult to injury, we bred and conditioned the slaves to be non-people.  Their existence was an extension of their master.  Without a master, a slave had no purpose, no life, no reason to exist.  A slave was not his own person.

So we had a war about it, and when we were all finished half of the country let former slaves go about their business and the other half kept them repressed with shadowy laws that let them know they were still under someone's boot.  That persisted for a century, and in the 1960's the government stepped in and said "hey, you got a bad lot in life, come with me and I'll make sure you're taken care of."

What no one realized is that the kind-hearted government had just replaced a hard boot with a soft one.  No one taught the descendants of the former slaves that they didn't have to be an extension of a master.  Instead, they just created a new one:  the government.  It was win-win for a while, the slave mentality had a new master to swear fealty to and politicians had votes wrapped up for eternity.  But in the long run there's still that slave mentality, coursing just beneath the surface.  Even worse, that mentality is being hardened under the illusion of making men "more free."


global3.memecdn.com
 
2013-10-26 06:17:20 PM

blue_2501: Please quit calling this guy a plumber!


Let's go with "Joe the racist douche". It's much more fitting.
 
2013-10-26 06:25:58 PM

scottnance: This is the true cost of slavery.  For over a century the US sought out not just slaves, but particular types of slaves to work the plantations.  They needed strong slaves, not smart ones, or ambitious ones.  The slave had to be just smart enough to do the work but not so smart they'd realize they got dealt a really shiatty hand in life and then revolt.  This played out as a practical matter when smarter Africans began dominating and then selling their dumber brethren to white people.

To add insult to injury, we bred and conditioned the slaves to be non-people.  Their existence was an extension of their master.  Without a master, a slave had no purpose, no life, no reason to exist.  A slave was not his own person.

So we had a war about it, and when we were all finished half of the country let former slaves go about their business and the other half kept them repressed with shadowy laws that let them know they were still under someone's boot.  That persisted for a century, and in the 1960's the government stepped in and said "hey, you got a bad lot in life, come with me and I'll make sure you're taken care of."

What no one realized is that the kind-hearted government had just replaced a hard boot with a soft one.  No one taught the descendants of the former slaves that they didn't have to be an extension of a master.  Instead, they just created a new one:  the government.  It was win-win for a while, the slave mentality had a new master to swear fealty to and politicians had votes wrapped up for eternity.  But in the long run there's still that slave mentality, coursing just beneath the surface.  Even worse, that mentality is being hardened under the illusion of making men "more free."


I nominate you to be in charge of the GOP minority outreach committee.

/What could possibly go wrong?
 
2013-10-26 06:37:17 PM

HighOnCraic: scottnance: This is the true cost of slavery.  For over a century the US sought out not just slaves, but particular types of slaves to work the plantations.  They needed strong slaves, not smart ones, or ambitious ones.  The slave had to be just smart enough to do the work but not so smart they'd realize they got dealt a really shiatty hand in life and then revolt.  This played out as a practical matter when smarter Africans began dominating and then selling their dumber brethren to white people.

To add insult to injury, we bred and conditioned the slaves to be non-people.  Their existence was an extension of their master.  Without a master, a slave had no purpose, no life, no reason to exist.  A slave was not his own person.

So we had a war about it, and when we were all finished half of the country let former slaves go about their business and the other half kept them repressed with shadowy laws that let them know they were still under someone's boot.  That persisted for a century, and in the 1960's the government stepped in and said "hey, you got a bad lot in life, come with me and I'll make sure you're taken care of."

What no one realized is that the kind-hearted government had just replaced a hard boot with a soft one.  No one taught the descendants of the former slaves that they didn't have to be an extension of a master.  Instead, they just created a new one:  the government.  It was win-win for a while, the slave mentality had a new master to swear fealty to and politicians had votes wrapped up for eternity.  But in the long run there's still that slave mentality, coursing just beneath the surface.  Even worse, that mentality is being hardened under the illusion of making men "more free."

I nominate you to be in charge of the GOP minority outreach committee.

/What could possibly go wrong?


I'm hoping he's cut and pasting that from somewhere else to try to be funny/trollish.
 
2013-10-26 06:44:40 PM

scottnance: This is the true cost of slavery.  For over a century the US sought out not just slaves, but particular types of slaves to work the plantations.  They needed strong slaves, not smart ones, or ambitious ones.  The slave had to be just smart enough to do the work but not so smart they'd realize they got dealt a really shiatty hand in life and then revolt.  This played out as a practical matter when smarter Africans began dominating and then selling their dumber brethren to white people.

To add insult to injury, we bred and conditioned the slaves to be non-people.  Their existence was an extension of their master.  Without a master, a slave had no purpose, no life, no reason to exist.  A slave was not his own person.

So we had a war about it, and when we were all finished half of the country let former slaves go about their business and the other half kept them repressed with shadowy laws that let them know they were still under someone's boot.  That persisted for a century, and in the 1960's the government stepped in and said "hey, you got a bad lot in life, come with me and I'll make sure you're taken care of."

What no one realized is that the kind-hearted government had just replaced a hard boot with a soft one.  No one taught the descendants of the former slaves that they didn't have to be an extension of a master.  Instead, they just created a new one:  the government.  It was win-win for a while, the slave mentality had a new master to swear fealty to and politicians had votes wrapped up for eternity.  But in the long run there's still that slave mentality, coursing just beneath the surface.  Even worse, that mentality is being hardened under the illusion of making men "more free."


So... to sum up your view it appears that you think black Americans were picked and bred to be dumb and that's why they still have a slave mentality that makes them vote Dem in large numbers and because of that they are now utterly dependent on government largess as their new "master"?

Republican outreach, everyone!

This time it'll work for sure!
 
2013-10-26 06:45:52 PM

scottnance: This is the true cost of slavery.  For over a century the US sought out not just slaves, but particular types of slaves to work the plantations.  They needed strong slaves, not smart ones, or ambitious ones.  The slave had to be just smart enough to do the work but not so smart they'd realize they got dealt a really shiatty hand in life and then revolt.  This played out as a practical matter when smarter Africans began dominating and then selling their dumber brethren to white people.

To add insult to injury, we bred and conditioned the slaves to be non-people.  Their existence was an extension of their master.  Without a master, a slave had no purpose, no life, no reason to exist.  A slave was not his own person.

So we had a war about it, and when we were all finished half of the country let former slaves go about their business and the other half kept them repressed with shadowy laws that let them know they were still under someone's boot.  That persisted for a century, and in the 1960's the government stepped in and said "hey, you got a bad lot in life, come with me and I'll make sure you're taken care of."

What no one realized is that the kind-hearted government had just replaced a hard boot with a soft one.  No one taught the descendants of the former slaves that they didn't have to be an extension of a master.  Instead, they just created a new one:  the government.  It was win-win for a while, the slave mentality had a new master to swear fealty to and politicians had votes wrapped up for eternity.  But in the long run there's still that slave mentality, coursing just beneath the surface.  Even worse, that mentality is being hardened under the illusion of making men "more free."


Are you from the Jimmy the Greek School of Race Relations?
 
2013-10-26 07:12:20 PM
'white democrats'?

The important thing is he's found an umbrella label to use for these 'racists'.
 
2013-10-26 07:29:48 PM
images.wikia.com
 
2013-10-26 07:41:57 PM
Republican outreach:

"I'm going to be real honest with you. The Republican Party doesn't want black people to vote if they are going to vote 9-to-1 for Democrats."

http://thedailybanter.com/2013/06/tea-partier-admits-republicans-don t- want-african-americans-to-vote-no-sht/
 
2013-10-26 09:50:15 PM
Well technically he's right about Democrats being racist in the 60's, and to someone who was clueless about American politics (or living in an echo chamber) his line of thinking might actually make sense. Of course they completely miss the fact that the whole paradigm has less to do with Republican vs. Democrat and more to do with Conservative Vs. Progressives. Of course most people today get their information through some perverse game of Telephone so the end product is that you have howling masses accusing Progressives of slavery and the holocaust  while crediting Conservatives with Civil Rights and beating the Nazis.
 
2013-10-26 10:21:23 PM

HypnozombieX: Well technically he's right about Democrats being racist in the 60's, and to someone who was clueless about American politics (or living in an echo chamber) his line of thinking might actually make sense. Of course they completely miss the fact that the whole paradigm has less to do with Republican vs. Democrat and more to do with Conservative Vs. Progressives. Of course most people today get their information through some perverse game of Telephone so the end product is that you have howling masses accusing Progressives of slavery and the holocaust  while crediting Conservatives with Civil Rights and beating the Nazis.


That really only happens when your view is such that all good things flow from progressives and all bad things flow from conservatives.  That's not reality and never has been.
 
2013-10-26 11:12:17 PM

tbeatty: HypnozombieX: Well technically he's right about Democrats being racist in the 60's, and to someone who was clueless about American politics (or living in an echo chamber) his line of thinking might actually make sense. Of course they completely miss the fact that the whole paradigm has less to do with Republican vs. Democrat and more to do with Conservative Vs. Progressives. Of course most people today get their information through some perverse game of Telephone so the end product is that you have howling masses accusing Progressives of slavery and the holocaust  while crediting Conservatives with Civil Rights and beating the Nazis.

That really only happens when your view is such that all good things flow from progressives and all bad things flow from conservatives.  That's not reality and never has been.


Good and bad for whom?  I think you're talking out of your ass.
 
2013-10-27 12:45:11 AM
"Joe the Plumber": "White Democrats are the most racist people I've ever met."

"Joe the Plumber": "Wanting a white Republican president doesn't make you racist, it just makes you American."

Given that this waterhead's definition of "racist" seems "unskewed", I think I'm just gonna put him in the "not to be taken seriously, even as a plumber" file and move on.
 
2013-10-27 02:51:14 AM

ArcadianRefugee: "Joe the Plumber": "White Democrats are the most racist people I've ever met."

"Joe the Plumber": "Wanting a white Republican president doesn't make you racist, it just makes you American."

Given that this waterhead's definition of "racist" seems "unskewed", I think I'm just gonna put him in the "not to be taken seriously, even as a plumber" file and move on.


Yes, but don't you get it? Joe troll U! LOLOLOL!

You see Joe didn't say those things himself he just repeated some crap a black conservative race baiter said so it's totally not racist or pants-on-head retarded and you are the real racist for noticing!

My favorite part of this thing is that Jackson the cray cray guy shooped this little gem up after FLA Dem Alan Grayson said...

"There is overwhelming evidence that the Tea Party is the home of bigotry and discrimination in America today, just as the KKK was for an earlier generation," Grayson said. "If the shoe fits, wear it."

Fark all the lily-livered Dems who think Grayson's antics are over the top.

The left needs a few bulldogs to counter the LCD derp spewed by RW demagogues.

Just went over to FR to check how they are taking this.

Predictably they are all cheering Joe on for laying down simple historical facts on them dumb Libulardos.

That the Freeper folk apparently have absolutely no familiarity with American race relations post 1964 is small surprise to me. That Kevin Jackson seems to have skipped over that portion of America's history seems a trifle disingenuous. I mean he could be that ignorant I guess but the smart money is on him being just another lying grifter/ political opportunist like Joe.
 
2013-10-27 08:14:56 AM
Isn't it funny how the most racist among whites willfully forget that 1964 and the political shift that was the result of civil rights movement never happened.
 
2013-10-27 10:17:18 AM

Mugato: Why the fark is this person famous?


Why did someone link this stupid story?
 
2013-10-27 10:31:19 AM

Smeggy Smurf: He has a point.  How many Democrats believe that blacks cannot compete with whites on a level playing field?  It's all about affirmative action and quotas as though the color of your skin actually matter if you're capable of doing the job or not.  Soft racism of low expectations is still racism.


When has there ever been a level playing field?

Your profile says Idaho. I'm guessing that you have no personal experience with 'soft racism'.
Have you ever been pulled over by the police, denied a job, or given worse service because of your skin color?

Every black man has. Some of them on a daily basis.

People like you, who deny that racism is a problem, are why affirmative action is necessary.
 
2013-10-27 10:43:05 AM

tjfly: This is news because a liberal rag needs liberal outrage to sell ad space.

Liberals, congratulations for unwittingly participating in capitalism.

That is all.


Liberals invented capitalism.
And everything else.

Progress!
 
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