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2013-10-26 01:40:46 PM

badhatharry: Can we please see your birth certificate? Pretty please? Tough questions.
I know, I know,  I'm racist because he is black.


I would like to know why, after more than 200 years of Presidential elections, asking for a birth certificate suddenly became a thing.  Can you tell me why?

And if it's legit, why didn't all the totally not racist teabaggers swarm McCain or Romney demanding birth certificates?
 
2013-10-26 01:42:48 PM

Lionel Mandrake: Great.  I'm sure he's doing wonders to increase the appeal of the "conservative movement."


And of course its the libs doing all of the division, trotting out imbeciles and then use the line "Well it makes the libs pissed so he must be good" is totally not pissing off one side deliberately.
 
2013-10-26 01:42:53 PM
Sorry guys, didn't mean to derail this into a Birther thread.

But really, badhatharry asked for it
 
2013-10-26 01:47:35 PM

technicolor-misfit: Here, I'll give you a hint...

43 black Democrats, 1 black Republican.

24 hispanic Democrats, 7 hispanic Republicans.

75 women Democrats, 26 women Republicans.

It's not "paternalistic" when you actually give people a seat at the table of power.

Jam your false equivalence and your "Democrat plantation" up your ass... all the way... and sideways.


It should be noted that the one black Republican was an appointee is has very little chance of surviving his coming primary challenge.
 
2013-10-26 01:52:19 PM
I wonder, after Obama's presidency is over, if the narrative for part of the country will be "we spent 8 years governed by a President who never showed his birth certificate to our satisfaction"

or

If the eventual Obama Presidential Library will include a certified long form version, under glass

both together would make me happy.
 
2013-10-26 02:01:03 PM

parasol: we spent 8 years governed by a President who never showed his birth certificate to our satisfaction


This is the type of fool to which I was referring.
 
2013-10-26 02:09:40 PM
This is news because a liberal rag needs liberal outrage to sell ad space.

Liberals, congratulations for unwittingly participating in capitalism.

That is all.
 
2013-10-26 02:12:49 PM

MrHappyRotter: Mugato: Why the fark is this person famous?

I think he's a gay porn star or something.  Or is he the guy that raped and murdered that girl back in the 90's?  I always get them confused.


wow. hating on gays is okay now? For fark sake.
 
2013-10-26 02:15:47 PM

Karac: hardinparamedic: Why is it that the best argument against the existence of the Master Race are the people who claim to be it's shining examples?

And why is it that someone who starts of his sentences "I'm not racist, but.." inevitably ends up coming off as a huge one?

[www.jlroberson.org image 440x232]


I don't know what that's from, but it's awesome.
 
2013-10-26 02:17:24 PM

tjfly: This is news because a liberal rag needs liberal outrage to sell ad space.

Liberals, congratulations for unwittingly participating in capitalism.

That is all.


HHuuurrr!!!  Librulz hate capitalism!!  DERP DERP DERP!
 
2013-10-26 02:17:43 PM
So.... Joe broke into the White House, stole Obama's Time machine, and went back to 1862?
 
2013-10-26 02:18:01 PM

tjfly: This is news because a liberal rag needs liberal outrage to sell ad space.

Liberals, congratulations for unwittingly participating in capitalism.

That is all.


Because all liberals are anti-capitalism.  They have to swear that oath during the initiation ceremony.  Your wit is nowhere near par.  Maybe you can claim a disability for it under Obamacare.
 
2013-10-26 02:18:04 PM

QU!RK1019: parasol: we spent 8 years governed by a President who never showed his birth certificate to our satisfaction

This is the type of fool to which I was referring.


It is foolish
At some point you have to realize a thing for what it is.
The man is president. Arguing over his eligibility to be so should have stopped long ago.
 
2013-10-26 02:19:45 PM

tjfly: This is news because a liberal rag needs liberal outrage to sell ad space.

Liberals, congratulations for unwittingly participating in capitalism.

That is all.


tjfly, congratulations for unwittingly participating in nondisjunction of the Holliday complex during DNA crossover.  Enjoy Trisomy 21 until you die.
 
2013-10-26 02:20:52 PM

Lionel Mandrake: tjfly: This is news because a liberal rag needs liberal outrage to sell ad space.

Liberals, congratulations for unwittingly participating in capitalism.

That is all.

HHuuurrr!!!  Librulz hate capitalism!!  DERP DERP DERP!


Ahem, he said "THAT IS ALL."

End of story, jack-o!
 
2013-10-26 02:21:21 PM

Flappyhead: Karac: hardinparamedic: Why is it that the best argument against the existence of the Master Race are the people who claim to be it's shining examples?

And why is it that someone who starts of his sentences "I'm not racist, but.." inevitably ends up coming off as a huge one?

[www.jlroberson.org image 440x232]

I don't know what that's from, but it's awesome.


A comic book called "Preacher."

It's about a small-town Texas minister who accidentally becomes as powerful as God.  So the Preacher decides to track down God and ask Him to His face why He made the world such a shiatty place.  His has an alcoholic Irish vampire as a sidekick.
 
2013-10-26 02:21:37 PM

parasol: QU!RK1019: parasol: we spent 8 years governed by a President who never showed his birth certificate to our satisfaction

This is the type of fool to which I was referring.

It is foolish
At some point you have to realize a thing for what it is.
The man is president. Arguing over his eligibility to be so should have stopped long ago.


Unless said president is black, of course.  Then it seems perfectly fine.  Like that NC GOP asshat from earlier this week.  Totally cool to still beat that birther drum, apparently.

But hey, don't blame him, the assholes in the crowd loved it so... White Republican bigotry is still strong.  And forever will be, no doubt.

Over / under on how many years before the GOP and the KKK merge?
 
2013-10-26 02:22:00 PM

parasol: QU!RK1019: parasol: we spent 8 years governed by a President who never showed his birth certificate to our satisfaction

This is the type of fool to which I was referring.

It is foolish
At some point you have to realize a thing for what it is.
The man is president. Arguing over his eligibility to be so should have stopped long ago.


He's not THEIR President.  Their President was cheated out of the White House by those evil liberals and their evil wiles.
 
2013-10-26 02:22:20 PM

Lionel Mandrake: badhatharry: Can we please see your birth certificate? Pretty please? Tough questions.
I know, I know,  I'm racist because he is black.

I would like to know why, after more than 200 years of Presidential elections, asking for a birth certificate suddenly became a thing.  Can you tell me why?

And if it's legit, why didn't all the totally not racist teabaggers swarm McCain or Romney demanding birth certificates?


You might be surprised to know that It's not a new thing. It's been a thing for 200 years.
 
2013-10-26 02:24:23 PM

badhatharry: Lionel Mandrake: badhatharry: Can we please see your birth certificate? Pretty please? Tough questions.
I know, I know,  I'm racist because he is black.

I would like to know why, after more than 200 years of Presidential elections, asking for a birth certificate suddenly became a thing.  Can you tell me why?

And if it's legit, why didn't all the totally not racist teabaggers swarm McCain or Romney demanding birth certificates?

You might be surprised to know that It's not a new thing. It's been a thing for 200 years.


And Romney did have his own birthers. Back in 1967.
 
2013-10-26 02:24:45 PM

badhatharry: Lionel Mandrake: badhatharry: Can we please see your birth certificate? Pretty please? Tough questions.
I know, I know,  I'm racist because he is black.

I would like to know why, after more than 200 years of Presidential elections, asking for a birth certificate suddenly became a thing.  Can you tell me why?

And if it's legit, why didn't all the totally not racist teabaggers swarm McCain or Romney demanding birth certificates?

You might be surprised to know that It's not a new thing. It's been a thing for 200 years.


So has mongoloidism.  And thank you for exhibiting it.

//could you please dig up an article where one party constantly questions the birth certificate authenticity of: Reagan, Carter, Nixon, Bush, Bush II, Kennedy, Ford, Truman, Eisenhower, FDR, Coolige, Hoover, Wilson, Clinton, etc, etc?
 
2013-10-26 02:26:16 PM

badhatharry: badhatharry: Lionel Mandrake: badhatharry: Can we please see your birth certificate? Pretty please? Tough questions.
I know, I know,  I'm racist because he is black.

I would like to know why, after more than 200 years of Presidential elections, asking for a birth certificate suddenly became a thing.  Can you tell me why?

And if it's legit, why didn't all the totally not racist teabaggers swarm McCain or Romney demanding birth certificates?

You might be surprised to know that It's not a new thing. It's been a thing for 200 years.

And Romney did have his own birthers. Back in 1967.


Not excusing it, but um, it's a slightly more legitimate question since he was in fact born outside the god damn country.
 
2013-10-26 02:26:36 PM

badhatharry: Lionel Mandrake: badhatharry: Can we please see your birth certificate? Pretty please? Tough questions.
I know, I know,  I'm racist because he is black.

I would like to know why, after more than 200 years of Presidential elections, asking for a birth certificate suddenly became a thing.  Can you tell me why?

And if it's legit, why didn't all the totally not racist teabaggers swarm McCain or Romney demanding birth certificates?

You might be surprised to know that It's not a new thing. It's been a thing for 200 years.


Yeah, I remember thinking to myself "why are the Democrats making a big stink about Romney's birth certificate, don't they know it makes them look like a toothless hillbilly" every time it happened.

Which was 0 times.  Go away, troll.
 
2013-10-26 02:29:06 PM

badhatharry: badhatharry: Lionel Mandrake: badhatharry: Can we please see your birth certificate? Pretty please? Tough questions.
I know, I know,  I'm racist because he is black.

I would like to know why, after more than 200 years of Presidential elections, asking for a birth certificate suddenly became a thing.  Can you tell me why?

And if it's legit, why didn't all the totally not racist teabaggers swarm McCain or Romney demanding birth certificates?

You might be surprised to know that It's not a new thing. It's been a thing for 200 years.

And Romney did have his own birthers. Back in 1967.


Romney didn't win the presidency - twice
The larger question is - at what point do you stop questioning the eligibility of an elected president?
 
2013-10-26 02:30:49 PM

parasol: The larger question is - at what point do you stop questioning the eligibility of an elected president?


When he agrees to stop being a n***** on a sunny day.
 
2013-10-26 02:31:19 PM

badhatharry: Lionel Mandrake: badhatharry: Can we please see your birth certificate? Pretty please? Tough questions.
I know, I know,  I'm racist because he is black.

I would like to know why, after more than 200 years of Presidential elections, asking for a birth certificate suddenly became a thing.  Can you tell me why?

And if it's legit, why didn't all the totally not racist teabaggers swarm McCain or Romney demanding birth certificates?

You might be surprised to know that It's not a new thing. It's been a thing for 200 years.


Bullshiat.

But I will be happy to look over any "proof" you care to provide.
 
2013-10-26 02:31:37 PM
The irony is that bathatharry is the production company name of a gay progressive director / writer / producter named Bryan Singer who has produced fictional accounts of the attrocities of the Nazis several times.  Probably never thought his production company namesake would be known in an internet forum as a bigoted liar.
 
2013-10-26 02:31:41 PM

Flappyhead: Karac: hardinparamedic: Why is it that the best argument against the existence of the Master Race are the people who claim to be it's shining examples?

And why is it that someone who starts of his sentences "I'm not racist, but.." inevitably ends up coming off as a huge one?

[www.jlroberson.org image 440x232]

I don't know what that's from, but it's awesome.


Garth Ennis's Preacher.

I'm saving this pic from that series for the eventual Supreme Court decision overturning all state bans on gay marriage.
 
2013-10-26 02:32:13 PM

parasol: badhatharry: badhatharry: Lionel Mandrake: badhatharry: Can we please see your birth certificate? Pretty please? Tough questions.
I know, I know,  I'm racist because he is black.

I would like to know why, after more than 200 years of Presidential elections, asking for a birth certificate suddenly became a thing.  Can you tell me why?

And if it's legit, why didn't all the totally not racist teabaggers swarm McCain or Romney demanding birth certificates?

You might be surprised to know that It's not a new thing. It's been a thing for 200 years.

And Romney did have his own birthers. Back in 1967.

Romney didn't win the presidency - twice
The larger question is - at what point do you stop questioning the eligibility of an elected president?


When he released his god damned birth certificate. But enough about that. This thread is about racist democrats.
 
2013-10-26 02:33:32 PM

badhatharry: parasol: badhatharry: badhatharry: Lionel Mandrake: badhatharry: Can we please see your birth certificate? Pretty please? Tough questions.
I know, I know,  I'm racist because he is black.

I would like to know why, after more than 200 years of Presidential elections, asking for a birth certificate suddenly became a thing.  Can you tell me why?

And if it's legit, why didn't all the totally not racist teabaggers swarm McCain or Romney demanding birth certificates?

You might be surprised to know that It's not a new thing. It's been a thing for 200 years.

And Romney did have his own birthers. Back in 1967.

Romney didn't win the presidency - twice
The larger question is - at what point do you stop questioning the eligibility of an elected president?

When he released his god damned birth certificate. But enough about that. This thread is about racist democrats.


"Stop questioning my lies!!"
 
2013-10-26 02:34:23 PM

badhatharry: parasol: badhatharry: badhatharry: Lionel Mandrake: badhatharry: Can we please see your birth certificate? Pretty please? Tough questions.
I know, I know,  I'm racist because he is black.

I would like to know why, after more than 200 years of Presidential elections, asking for a birth certificate suddenly became a thing.  Can you tell me why?

And if it's legit, why didn't all the totally not racist teabaggers swarm McCain or Romney demanding birth certificates?

You might be surprised to know that It's not a new thing. It's been a thing for 200 years.

And Romney did have his own birthers. Back in 1967.

Romney didn't win the presidency - twice
The larger question is - at what point do you stop questioning the eligibility of an elected president?

When he released his god damned birth certificate. But enough about that. This thread is about racist democrats.


So, that happened, yet you still question it.  So, you're lying....again.  And you're being really dumb about it, too.

And, jeez, there's just so much stupid here, the thread is about an idiot projecting his racism.
 
2013-10-26 02:35:19 PM

badhatharry: parasol: badhatharry: badhatharry: Lionel Mandrake: badhatharry: Can we please see your birth certificate? Pretty please? Tough questions.
I know, I know,  I'm racist because he is black.

I would like to know why, after more than 200 years of Presidential elections, asking for a birth certificate suddenly became a thing.  Can you tell me why?

And if it's legit, why didn't all the totally not racist teabaggers swarm McCain or Romney demanding birth certificates?

You might be surprised to know that It's not a new thing. It's been a thing for 200 years.

And Romney did have his own birthers. Back in 1967.

Romney didn't win the presidency - twice
The larger question is - at what point do you stop questioning the eligibility of an elected president?

When he released his god damned birth certificate. But enough about that. This thread is about racist democrats.


Really, that's when you stopped?
img.fark.net

Because it doesn't look like that's when you stopped.
 
2013-10-26 02:36:31 PM

badhatharry: When he released his god damned birth certificate.


You're thinking of George Romney.  Mitt's birthplace was never in question

Just like he himself said
 
2013-10-26 02:38:02 PM
parasol: The larger question is - at what point do you stop questioning the eligibility of an elected president?

Duh, when he becomes a white Republican silly.
 
2013-10-26 02:39:41 PM

Karac: badhatharry: parasol: badhatharry: badhatharry: Lionel Mandrake: badhatharry: Can we please see your birth certificate? Pretty please? Tough questions.
I know, I know,  I'm racist because he is black.

I would like to know why, after more than 200 years of Presidential elections, asking for a birth certificate suddenly became a thing.  Can you tell me why?

And if it's legit, why didn't all the totally not racist teabaggers swarm McCain or Romney demanding birth certificates?

You might be surprised to know that It's not a new thing. It's been a thing for 200 years.

And Romney did have his own birthers. Back in 1967.

Romney didn't win the presidency - twice
The larger question is - at what point do you stop questioning the eligibility of an elected president?

When he released his god damned birth certificate. But enough about that. This thread is about racist democrats.

Really, that's when you stopped?
[img.fark.net image 850x608]

Because it doesn't look like that's when you stopped.


Well done.

nyrb.typepad.com

I imagine we'll get Cletus C. to give up in similar fashion about Benghazi and then catch him in a lie too.
 
2013-10-26 02:41:11 PM

badhatharry: parasol: badhatharry: badhatharry: Lionel Mandrake: badhatharry: Can we please see your birth certificate? Pretty please? Tough questions.
I know, I know,  I'm racist because he is black.

I would like to know why, after more than 200 years of Presidential elections, asking for a birth certificate suddenly became a thing.  Can you tell me why?

And if it's legit, why didn't all the totally not racist teabaggers swarm McCain or Romney demanding birth certificates?

You might be surprised to know that It's not a new thing. It's been a thing for 200 years.

And Romney did have his own birthers. Back in 1967.

Romney didn't win the presidency - twice
The larger question is - at what point do you stop questioning the eligibility of an elected president?

When he released his god damned birth certificate. But enough about that. This thread is about racist democrats.


were that true it would be a much shorter thread
 
2013-10-26 02:44:03 PM

parasol: badhatharry: parasol: badhatharry: badhatharry: Lionel Mandrake: badhatharry: Can we please see your birth certificate? Pretty please? Tough questions.
I know, I know,  I'm racist because he is black.

I would like to know why, after more than 200 years of Presidential elections, asking for a birth certificate suddenly became a thing.  Can you tell me why?

And if it's legit, why didn't all the totally not racist teabaggers swarm McCain or Romney demanding birth certificates?

You might be surprised to know that It's not a new thing. It's been a thing for 200 years.

And Romney did have his own birthers. Back in 1967.

Romney didn't win the presidency - twice
The larger question is - at what point do you stop questioning the eligibility of an elected president?

When he released his god damned birth certificate. But enough about that. This thread is about racist democrats.

were that true it would be a much shorter thread


I must be a racist white democrat.  I spent 3 years in Africa and then gave up on black people and came home because I couldn't help them change their fortunes.

//or because my terms of Peace Corps service were up
 
2013-10-26 02:45:21 PM
So the republican story is still blacks are to stupid to realize that liberals are the real racists?
 
2013-10-26 02:46:48 PM

hardinparamedic: Gecko Gingrich: Well, to be fair, Southern Democrats are Democrats.

Not since 1964.


Even before then, the conservatives who took control of the Republican Party had begun parroting the language of the Southern Democrats.

One of these quotes is from "The Southern Manifesto," which was a document signed by Southern Democrats who opposed the Brown v. Board of Education decision.  The other quote is from Barry Goldwater's "The Conscience of a Conservative."


The intentions of the Fourteenth Amendment's authors are perfectly clear. Consider these facts. 1.During the entire congressional debate on the Fourteenth Amendment it was never once suggested by any proponent of the amendment that it would outlaw segregated schools. 2. At the same time that it approved the Fourteenth Amendment, Congress established schools in Washington in Georgetown "for the sole use of... colored children."3. In all the debates on the amendment by the State Legislatures there was only one legislator, a man in Indiana, who thought the amendment would affect schools 4. The great majority of the States that approved the amendment permitted or required segregated schools at the very time they approved the amendment. There is not room here for exhaustive treatment of this evidence, but the facts are well documented, and they are all we have to know about the Fourteenth Amendment's bearing on this problem. The amendment was not intended to,and therefore it did not outlaw racially separate schools. It was not intended to, and therefore it did not, authorize
any federal intervention in the field of education.


"The original Constitution does not mention education. Neither does the 14th amendment nor any other amendment. The debates preceding the submission of the 14th amendment clearly show that there was no intent that it should affect the systems of education maintained by the States.
The very Congress which proposed the amendment subsequently provided for segregated schools in the District of Columbia.
When the amendment was adopted, in 1868, there were 37 States of the Union. Every one of the 26 States that had any substantial racial differences among its people either approved the operation of segregated schools already in existence or subsequently established such schools by action of the same lawmaking body which considered the 14th amendment.
Though there has been no constitutional amendment or act of Congress changing this established legal principle almost a century old, the Supreme Court of the United States, with no legal basis for such action, undertook to exercise their naked judicial power and substituted their personal political and social ideas for the established law of the land.
This unwarranted exercise of power by the Court, contrary to the Constitution, is creating chaos and confusion in the States principally affected. It is destroying the amicable relations between the white and Negro races that have been created through 90 years of patient effort by the good people of both races. It has planted hatred and suspicion where there has been heretofore friendship and understanding."

It's awfully hard to tell them apart. . .
 
2013-10-26 02:50:46 PM

Karac: badhatharry: parasol: badhatharry: badhatharry: Lionel Mandrake: badhatharry: Can we please see your birth certificate? Pretty please? Tough questions.
I know, I know,  I'm racist because he is black.

I would like to know why, after more than 200 years of Presidential elections, asking for a birth certificate suddenly became a thing.  Can you tell me why?

And if it's legit, why didn't all the totally not racist teabaggers swarm McCain or Romney demanding birth certificates?

You might be surprised to know that It's not a new thing. It's been a thing for 200 years.

And Romney did have his own birthers. Back in 1967.

Romney didn't win the presidency - twice
The larger question is - at what point do you stop questioning the eligibility of an elected president?

When he released his god damned birth certificate. But enough about that. This thread is about racist democrats.

Really, that's when you stopped?
[img.fark.net image 850x608]

Because it doesn't look like that's when you stopped.


That thread is from January 2010. Obama released his birth certificate in April 2011.
 
2013-10-26 02:53:35 PM

spaten: Being anti-collectivist is not racist.


Sure it is - if you're not for tribalism, then you hate the tribes, ergo you're a racist.

See how easy that was? I didn't even have to think.
 
2013-10-26 02:54:28 PM

badhatharry: That thread is from January 2010. Obama released his birth certificate in April 2011.


you should check that one more time.
 
2013-10-26 02:58:04 PM
Also from Goldwater:

"It so happens that I am in agreement with the  objectivesof the Supreme Court as stated in the
Brown  decision. I believe that itisboth wise and just for negro children to attend the same schools as whites, and that to deny them this opportunity carries with it strong implications of inferiority. I am not prepared, however, to impose that judgment of mine on the people of Mississippi or South Carolina, or to tell them what methods should be adopted and what pace should be kept in striving toward that goal. That is their business, not mine. I believe that the problem of race relations, like all social and cultural problems, is best handled by the people directly concerned. Social and cultural change, however desirable, should not be effected by the engines of national power. Let us, through persuasion and education, seek to improve institutions we deem defective. But let us, in doing so, respect the orderly processes of the law. Any other course enthrones tyrants and dooms freedom."

That argument certainly helped in the realignment of the mid-20th Century, but it's also a huge cop-out; handling integration as a "local problem" never would've worked, because most of the people involved couldn't vote at the time.

Adopting the language of the Southern Democrats was all part of Goldwater's strategy to "go hunting where the ducks are."

http://www.saturdayeveningpost.com/wp-content/uploads/satevepost/196 3- 08-24.pdf

And it worked; in '64 LBJ was so unpopular in the South that Alabama wouldn't even let his name appear on the ballot.
 
2013-10-26 02:59:42 PM

abb3w: In the south, there likely still are areas where "Dixiecrat" white democrats are prevalent, and more racist than the local GOP; and there may be some subtle forms of racism that are more common among Democrats than Republicans.

However, in the country as a whole, there's a lot more tendency to unsubtle racism among Republicans than among Democrats.



Why do people do this???

There aren't many areas of the south where democrats are prevalent, period... Even in those that exist, there would be little evidence or criteria by which to measure, much less assume, that they are more racist than the local GOP.

It's an entirely baseless and completely counterintuitive proposition... some mythical "Land That Time Forgot," somewhere in the middle of south Georgia, in which all the Democrats are holdovers from the 1950's and 60's, and all the Republicans are holdovers from the 1850's and 60's.

It's complete false equivalence nonsense on its very face, and yet it's offered up like some kind of olive branch token of goodwill gesture in a willingness to meet in the middle. "We'll plead guilty to racism on our side, if you'll acknowledge guilt of racism on your side."

How many times must people go down that road before recognizing that conservatives don't give two shiats about your goodwill gestures or your olive branches?

You cede ground, and they just move further away while shouting "see! Even THEY admit that they're the real racists! Even THEY acknowledge that the Dixie democrats are more racist than southern republicans!"

There is no good reason to hypothetically pretend that democrats might be more racist than republicans in some places or in some ways. It's obviously untrue and they don't appreciate the willingness to meet in some "nobody's perfect" middle ground.
 
2013-10-26 03:00:33 PM

Godscrack: yeah fark off already 15 minute closeted skinhead.


Closeted???
 
2013-10-26 03:02:05 PM

technicolor-misfit: abb3w: In the south, there likely still are areas where "Dixiecrat" white democrats are prevalent, and more racist than the local GOP; and there may be some subtle forms of racism that are more common among Democrats than Republicans.

However, in the country as a whole, there's a lot more tendency to unsubtle racism among Republicans than among Democrats.


Why do people do this???

There aren't many areas of the south where democrats are prevalent, period... Even in those that exist, there would be little evidence or criteria by which to measure, much less assume, that they are more racist than the local GOP.

It's an entirely baseless and completely counterintuitive proposition... some mythical "Land That Time Forgot," somewhere in the middle of south Georgia, in which all the Democrats are holdovers from the 1950's and 60's, and all the Republicans are holdovers from the 1850's and 60's.

It's complete false equivalence nonsense on its very face, and yet it's offered up like some kind of olive branch token of goodwill gesture in a willingness to meet in the middle. "We'll plead guilty to racism on our side, if you'll acknowledge guilt of racism on your side."

How many times must people go down that road before recognizing that conservatives don't give two shiats about your goodwill gestures or your olive branches?

You cede ground, and they just move further away while shouting "see! Even THEY admit that they're the real racists! Even THEY acknowledge that the Dixie democrats are more racist than southern republicans!"

There is no good reason to hypothetically pretend that democrats might be more racist than republicans in some places or in some ways. It's obviously untrue and they don't appreciate the willingness to meet in some "nobody's perfect" middle ground.


Este x infinity
 
2013-10-26 03:04:40 PM

Phil Moskowitz: I remember a day when dumb Americans were embarrassed about how stupid they were and they kept their mouth shut.


I am 32 and do not remember that day.
 
2013-10-26 03:06:50 PM

abb3w: In the south, there likely still are areas where "Dixiecrat" white democrats are prevalent, and more racist than the local GOP; and there may be some subtle forms of racism that are more common among Democrats than Republicans.

However, in the country as a whole, there's a lot more tendency to unsubtle racism among Republicans than among Democrats.


For what it's worth, the "Blue Dog Coalition" is down to 14 members; there are 18 member of the Congressional Black Caucus from Southern House districts.
 
2013-10-26 03:08:19 PM

The Flexecutioner: badhatharry: That thread is from January 2010. Obama released his birth certificate in April 2011.

you should check that one more time.


Sorry, thread was from January 2011. Thanks for not calling me a liar.
 
2013-10-26 03:08:54 PM

HighOnCraic: abb3w: In the south, there likely still are areas where "Dixiecrat" white democrats are prevalent, and more racist than the local GOP; and there may be some subtle forms of racism that are more common among Democrats than Republicans.

However, in the country as a whole, there's a lot more tendency to unsubtle racism among Republicans than among Democrats.

For what it's worth, the "Blue Dog Coalition" is down to 14 members; there are 18 members of the Congressional Black Caucus from Southern House districts.

d'oh!

 
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