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(Stars and Stripes)   The U.S. Marine Corps would like everyone to know that despite what you may have read on the internet, President Obama is not in fact forcing them to start wearing "girly hats"   (stripes.com) divider line 214
    More: Followup, President Obama, James Amos, Dan Daly  
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2013-10-26 12:19:56 AM  
What's the difference between a straight Marine and a gay Marine?

3 beers
 
2013-10-26 12:20:05 AM  
Sugartits,

Again, the farking point has flown over your pointy little head.

If the reporter from the NY Post (who originated this BS) had actually spoken to a ranking Marine who was in on any decision to change the Marine Corps headgear, that person would not have referred to them as "hats."   That was my first clue that she was making crap up and had not in fact actually talked to anyone within the Marine Uniform Committee.

Look at the Stars & Stripes article, every quotation on topic referred to them as "covers" as I would expect a Marine to do.   The term appeared nowhere in the NY Post article, which was a red flag.

It's not about what you and I or anyone else may call the damned things, it was about her sending a "tell" (or at least one I picked up on) that told me she was likely lying and had not spoken to anyone in the Marines.

Like I said in another post: If you are talking to someone who claims they're a sailor and they call the bathroom anything other than "Head" you are probably not really talking to someone who served in the Navy.  Much like someone serving in the Army isn't going to refer to their sidearm (pistol) or rifle as a "gun."  Those things aren't guarantees, but they're pretty damned big clues as to whether the person you are speaking to actually did the service they are claiming.
 
2013-10-26 12:20:55 AM  
How the hell do you go out of business supplying the Pentagon with USMC with uniforms?


Sgt. Maj. Dan Daly, a two-time Medal of Honor recipient who yelled, "Come on, you sons of biatches, do you want to live forever?" as he led Marines into the fight at Belleau Wood during World War I, wore a cap similar to the option proposed by the survey.

He sounds gay.
 
2013-10-26 12:22:16 AM  
Practical_Draconian: /on a serious note, yes, there was a fez-wearing Nazi Muslim division in WW2

Brain asplode.  Had to check the interwebs/wiki to verify, as it's rather unbelievable. Thanks for that WTF moment of the day!
 
2013-10-26 12:22:43 AM  
www.criticasm.com
 
2013-10-26 12:23:24 AM  

Confabulat: What do you call this thing? "Girly" doesn't really come to mind.

[media.liveauctiongroup.net image 850x850]


I'm 12 and what is this? A running start butt plug?
 
2013-10-26 12:23:48 AM  

Dimensio: Not only has Obama insisted upon a dress code change to attempt to feminize the Marines to weaken our country's military strength, but now he has ordered the Marines to lie about the reason for the change. Evidently no depth exists to which that horrible man will not sink.

/This is what Tea Party members are actually saying in the comments of the leaked linked article.


You have made a powerful enemy today, autocorrect.
 
2013-10-26 12:25:01 AM  

whistleridge: I don't get this stupid 'scandal', and haven't gotten it for some days now.

BOTH SETS OF HATS LOOK EQUALLY RIDICULOUS. They're both horribly outdated early 19th century men's headwear that somehow failed to die out along with the stock and the culotte. WTF makes one more macho or less ugly than the other??


Girls wear one hat. They have cooties. If boys have to wear a hat like the ones that girls wear, the boys will get cooties. It doesn't matter that the hat is one worn by one of the manliest Marines ever. Girl cooties have ruined it. The CDC is working on a cootie vaccine, but they are still years away.
 
2013-10-26 12:25:02 AM  
COVER, GODDAMNIT, NOT A HAT.

/former Marine
 
2013-10-26 12:25:12 AM  

Wool E Mammoth: [jumpingpolarbear.files.wordpress.com image 505x367]
there ya go


static.guim.co.uk
 
2013-10-26 12:27:31 AM  

lawboy87: JohnBigBootay

My comment was more in reference to the horrible reporter from the NY Post that originated this BS.

She supposedly got this info from a Marine involved in the process.  My point being that a Marine would never call it a "Hat" he/she would have referred to it as a "cover."   That was the first clue that she HAD NOT in fact spoken to anyone in the Corps.

It would be like claiming to have spoken to an Army guy who referred to his rifle or sidearm as a "gun" or a guy in the Navy, who refers to the bathroom as anything other than the "Head."


Sure. Most groups have their nomenclature quirks. I'm ok with that.
 
2013-10-26 12:33:30 AM  
lawboy87:

Like I said in another post: If you are talking to someone who claims they're a sailor and they call the bathroom anything other than "Head" you are probably not really talking to someone who served in the Navy.  Much like someone serving in the Army isn't going to refer to their sidearm (pistol) or rifle as a "gun."  Those things aren't guarantees, but they're pretty damned big clues as to whether the person you are speaking to actually did the service they are claiming.

Not everyone keeps using the terms they used in the military. I spent 9 years active duty Army. After I'd been out for 5-6 months or so of being a civilian again I stopped using "latrine" for bathroom, "chow" for mealtimes, stopped referring to flip flops as "shower shoes" and stopped wearing them in my own shower and so forth and so on.
 
2013-10-26 12:34:16 AM  

Confabulat: What do you call this thing? "Girly" doesn't really come to mind.

[media.liveauctiongroup.net image 850x850]


Ein pikelhaube.
 
2013-10-26 12:40:20 AM  

chuggernaught: No!  Someone on Fark said because Obama is the CIC that it is ultimately his call on what hats Marines where and when!  This was a true Fark Independent, so it must be true!


did he then somehow manage to turn it into a gun thread??
 
2013-10-26 12:45:16 AM  

lawboy87: If you call it a "Hat," that means you don't know a damned thing about the Marine Corp.   A Marine would never call it a hat, they would only refer to it as a "Cover."


Calm down.  It's a hat.
 
2013-10-26 12:45:47 AM  
Dingleberry,

Agreed, I understand that.  But the Reporter for the NY Post was claiming to speak to someone not only "active military" but specifically received this info from someone in the Marine Corps who was responsible for uniform regulations.  That would almost certainly be someone so steeped in Marine culture that they would not deviate from the script.

I point attention to the Stars & Stripes article, where the Marine that reporter spoke to clearly identified the items as "covers."  Then contrast that with the original NY Post story which never used the term.

BTW, when you are discussing your former service and you're telling that story about the one time the Drill Instructor singled you out to clean the latrine for a week: would you likely use the word "latrine" or "Bathroom"?

Both of my brothers pretty much dropped the military lingo after returning to civilian life, except when they might be talking about their time in the military.  Like I said, the failure to use military lingo and nomenclature is certainly not a guarantee that the person is lying about their service or status, like using "Marine Core Soldier" or "GED in Law" serves to out the lying, but it's something that would set my mind to "skeptical" status.
 
2013-10-26 12:48:23 AM  
1) Help spread some ridiculous claim tied to the current administration
2) Blog about how ridiculous it is that anyone believes it
3) ????
4) Profit
 
2013-10-26 12:50:46 AM  

trappedspirit: 1) Help spread some ridiculous claim tied to the current administration
2) Blog about how ridiculous it is that anyone believes it
3) ????
4) Profit


Please, don't try to make clever commentary about things more clever than you.
 
2013-10-26 12:50:47 AM  

Wool E Mammoth: [jumpingpolarbear.files.wordpress.com image 505x367]
there ya go


I was afraid I would have to be the one to post the kepi.
 
2013-10-26 12:50:48 AM  
The Indian and Pakistani armies got the hat thing all figured out. They can punt a football like 80 yards too.

i.crackedcdn.com
 
2013-10-26 12:53:44 AM  

lawboy87: BTW, when you are discussing your former service and you're telling that story about the one time the Drill Instructor singled you out to clean the latrine for a week: would you likely use the word "latrine" or "Bathroom"?


Depends on who I'm telling the story to. If I'm telling it to a civilian and I'm reasonably sober I typically remember to use the term they would be familiar with, although if I've been drinking a lot I may forget.

/it's Drill Sergeant in the Army
//Singled out? Basic was all about cohesion, if it wasn't your whole squad suffering with you, you at least had your battle buddy that suffered along side you no matter what.
 
2013-10-26 12:59:49 AM  
Dingleberry,

Thanks for the response.  Just using the "having to clean the latrine" thing as some sort of "generic" military story someone may tell to their grand kids.
 
2013-10-26 01:10:27 AM  
What about silly walks?
 
2013-10-26 01:14:38 AM  
I read online that Obama is forcing the Marines to check the religion of everyone they kill, and administer last rights in the victim's religion.

It's true!
 
2013-10-26 01:15:39 AM  
Covers? How about some boots, socks and blouses...

img.fark.net


http://www.mtfca.com/discus/messages/331880/388764.html?1379372362
 
2013-10-26 01:24:37 AM  

Confabulat: trappedspirit: 1) Help spread some ridiculous claim tied to the current administration
2) Blog about how ridiculous it is that anyone believes it
3) ????
4) Profit

Please, don't try to make clever commentary about things more clever than you.


I think we have your hat ready for a test fitting
 
2013-10-26 01:26:22 AM  

studebaker hoch: I read online that Obama is forcing the Marines to check the religion of everyone they kill, and administer last rights in the victim's religion.

It's true!


Don't say that. I'm serious. If you keep saying that in a few weeks you will see some Fwdfwdfwd email claiming that and pointing to a confidential White House insider named studebaker hoch as the source. Then a week after that it will be a topic of discussion on Fox and Friends.
 
2013-10-26 01:29:04 AM  

Thunderboy: PC LOAD LETTER: I heard Obama is forcing the Marines to check the religion of everyone they kill, and administer last rights in the victim's religion.

If I posted that on facebook, I can think of 5 friends who would repost it as true.

Make it a graphic with a US flag, Jeebus, an eagle or two, and the tagline "Share if you love America!" and you've got a winner.



i.imgur.com
 
2013-10-26 01:29:15 AM  
Ye gods... I really hope that the torrent of DERP in the comments actually represents the people who we choose to give guns to and entrust with the safety of our nation... because if it does we are in SERIOUS F*CKING TROUBLE.

/former navy nuclear power electrician
//glad the DERP wasn't as deep among the people I worked with
 
2013-10-26 01:31:25 AM  
I really hope that the torrent of DERP in the comments doesn't actually represent ...

FTFM
/working late
//tired
 
2013-10-26 01:33:56 AM  
This was the fastest spreading bit of derpy poutrage I've seen on Facebook in a long while among my red-state friends.

Even when actual Marines chimed in to say that this wasn't true and that it's so tiring and sad to see these folks fall for the same lies from righty media manipulatiors for the 5000th time.

The reflexive response of course was "Your (sic) the one whose (sic) brain-washed!!" along with various cries of Benghazi-gate, fast and furious, end-times, jebus is coming, gotcha LSM drive-by media lies, etc etc.

Shake my head.
 
2013-10-26 01:43:03 AM  

lawboy87: you don't know a damned thing about the Marine Corp.


And if you can't spell it correctly, then...you're an idiot.

/Almost as bad as that asshat who spelled it "Marine Core"
 
2013-10-26 01:43:50 AM  

maram500: lawboy87: you don't know a damned thing about the Marine Corp.

And if you can't spell it correctly, then...you're an idiot.

/Almost as bad as that asshat who spelled it "Marine Core"


This ought to be good..
 
2013-10-26 01:46:01 AM  

sugardave: maram500: lawboy87: you don't know a damned thing about the Marine Corp.

And if you can't spell it correctly, then...you're an idiot.

/Almost as bad as that asshat who spelled it "Marine Core"

This ought to be good..


Nah, too late in the night to get a full blown funny out of it.
 
2013-10-26 01:49:39 AM  

Dingleberry Dickwad: sugardave: maram500: lawboy87: you don't know a damned thing about the Marine Corp.

And if you can't spell it correctly, then...you're an idiot.

/Almost as bad as that asshat who spelled it "Marine Core"

This ought to be good..

Nah, too late in the night to get a full blown funny out of it.


Dammit!  I'm sitting in the hotel room on my last night here, bored out of my mind.  Fark, entertain me!
 
2013-10-26 01:50:35 AM  

lawboy87: Hey Sugartits,

The point I was making went right over your head didn't it?

Any reporter who called this a "hat" had almost certainly never spoken to a Marine, because they would use their own nomenclature to describe it, not use the "layman's" term "Hat."

The Marine Corps Uniform Regulations refer to the item as a "cover" (not a hat) and that is how any "real" Marine would refer to it.


Hey, lookie over here: I can "use" "quotes," too. It's as "easy" as hitting a couple of "keys." You see how annoying "this" is?

For all your proclaimed "knowledge," you're coming up a bit short. See, the entirety of the United States' military refers to the thing that sits atop a head (or under the left arm) as a cover. That goes for combination caps, barracks covers, and watch caps.

Please shut up.
 
2013-10-26 01:54:45 AM  

acefox1: This was the fastest spreading bit of derpy poutrage I've seen on Facebook in a long while among my red-state friends.

Even when actual Marines chimed in to say that this wasn't true and that it's so tiring and sad to see these folks fall for the same lies from righty media manipulatiors for the 5000th time.

The reflexive response of course was "Your (sic) the one whose (sic) brain-washed!!" along with various cries of Benghazi-gate, fast and furious, end-times, jebus is coming, gotcha LSM drive-by media lies, etc etc.

Shake my head.


Obama is an empty suit, but at the same time that empty suit is able to manipulate his way to becoming POTUS with having an obviously fake birth certificate, he is able to use trickery and deceit to get Congress and the Supreme Court to do what he wants, he was single handedly able to cover up Benghazi and orchestrate Fast and Furious and he is able to manipulate the Armed Forces to deny the fact that he is feminizing them. Hate to se what he could do if he wasn't an empty suit.
 
2013-10-26 02:01:48 AM  

lawboy87: Hey Sugartits,

The point I was making went right over your head didn't it?

Any reporter who called this a "hat" had almost certainly never spoken to a Marine, because they would use their own nomenclature to describe it, not use the "layman's" term "Hat."

The Marine Corps Uniform Regulations refer to the item as a "cover" (not a hat) and that is how any "real" Marine would refer to it.



My best friend is a marine, and I'm prior navy. The last time I was at his house I pointed to his hat and said "what's that on your hat?", herecognized what I was referring to and took a look at his hat to see what it was. later he said "where's my other hat?" and Ipointed it out to him.

we both also say bathroom and wall instead of "the head" and "bulkhead".

anyway, what I'm, trying to say here is that you're stupid.
 
2013-10-26 02:03:01 AM  

maram500: lawboy87: Hey Sugartits,

The point I was making went right over your head didn't it?

Any reporter who called this a "hat" had almost certainly never spoken to a Marine, because they would use their own nomenclature to describe it, not use the "layman's" term "Hat."

The Marine Corps Uniform Regulations refer to the item as a "cover" (not a hat) and that is how any "real" Marine would refer to it.

Hey, lookie over here: I can "use" "quotes," too. It's as "easy" as hitting a couple of "keys." You see how annoying "this" is?

For all your proclaimed "knowledge," you're coming up a bit short. See, the entirety of the United States' military refers to the thing that sits atop a head (or under the left arm) as a cover. That goes for combination caps, barracks covers, and watch caps.

Please shut up.


Please can we get off of this cover or hat thing. Yes I know that active duty Marines will say cover and not hat. But I also figure a reporter that interviewed a Marine will also replace the terms that Marines use with words that civilians would understand for a story that is meant to be read by civilians. Maybe the reporter should have used the Marine's direct quotes and explained what the terms they used meant, but that is just lazy reporting. That isn't something that will make me not believe that an actual Marine made the quote. This should go to point out that their are Marines that actually drink the Tea Party's tea, and that is bad.
 
2013-10-26 02:07:30 AM  

ongbok: maram500: lawboy87: Hey Sugartits,

The point I was making went right over your head didn't it?

Any reporter who called this a "hat" had almost certainly never spoken to a Marine, because they would use their own nomenclature to describe it, not use the "layman's" term "Hat."

The Marine Corps Uniform Regulations refer to the item as a "cover" (not a hat) and that is how any "real" Marine would refer to it.

Hey, lookie over here: I can "use" "quotes," too. It's as "easy" as hitting a couple of "keys." You see how annoying "this" is?

For all your proclaimed "knowledge," you're coming up a bit short. See, the entirety of the United States' military refers to the thing that sits atop a head (or under the left arm) as a cover. That goes for combination caps, barracks covers, and watch caps.

Please shut up.

Please can we get off of this cover or hat thing. Yes I know that active duty Marines will say cover and not hat. But I also figure a reporter that interviewed a Marine will also replace the terms that Marines use with words that civilians would understand for a story that is meant to be read by civilians. Maybe the reporter should have used the Marine's direct quotes and explained what the terms they used meant, but that is just lazy reporting. That isn't something that will make me not believe that an actual Marine made the quote. This should go to point out that their are Marines that actually drink the Tea Party's tea, and that is bad.


I'm absolutely happy to get off the "cover vs hat" bit, but lawboy87 needs to recognize that he is, in fact, an idiot.
 
2013-10-26 02:08:17 AM  

PC LOAD LETTER: I heard Obama is forcing the Marines to check the religion of everyone they kill, and administer last rights in the victim's religion.

If I posted that on facebook, I can think of 5 friends who would repost it as true.


I'm going to start spreading that one, it's perfect!
 
2013-10-26 02:19:40 AM  

Larva Lump: [www.girlgeniusonline.com image 700x1070]


Damn, someone actually beat me to this.

Kudos.

As for the rest of you maggots, that silly little cover looks French. Even the War Hawgs shouldn't have to suffer it.

Semper Fidelis.
 
2013-10-26 02:22:59 AM  
My grandfathers cap in the Royal Canadian Engineers had a little pom pom on it and if anyone calls his manhood into question because of it they will have me to deal with.  Real talk.
 
2013-10-26 02:23:01 AM  

lawboy87: Sugartits,

Again, the farking point has flown over your pointy little head.

If the reporter from the NY Post (who originated this BS) had actually spoken to a ranking Marine who was in on any decision to change the Marine Corps headgear, that person would not have referred to them as "hats."   That was my first clue that she was making crap up and had not in fact actually talked to anyone within the Marine Uniform Committee.

Look at the Stars & Stripes article, every quotation on topic referred to them as "covers" as I would expect a Marine to do.   The term appeared nowhere in the NY Post article, which was a red flag.

It's not about what you and I or anyone else may call the damned things, it was about her sending a "tell" (or at least one I picked up on) that told me she was likely lying and had not spoken to anyone in the Marines.

Like I said in another post: If you are talking to someone who claims they're a sailor and they call the bathroom anything other than "Head" you are probably not really talking to someone who served in the Navy.  Much like someone serving in the Army isn't going to refer to their sidearm (pistol) or rifle as a "gun."  Those things aren't guarantees, but they're pretty damned big clues as to whether the person you are speaking to actually did the service they are claiming.


You are incredibly anal, and douchy about it to boot.

Believe it or not, not everyone in the armed services follows the official lingo 100%.
 
2013-10-26 02:24:27 AM  
I really don't think it matters what the top of the Can of American Whupass looks like.  It is a uniform and supposed to warn you of their presence.
The wide top of the hat is intended to indicate the wide reach of the force.

The navy cap is actually a stylized leather weather/fire hood folded up off the head.  Its farking awesome.
 
2013-10-26 02:29:54 AM  
Am I in before the french model from the commercial?
 
2013-10-26 02:30:47 AM  

Smackledorfer: You are incredibly anal, and douchy about it to boot.

Believe it or not, not everyone in the armed services follows the official lingo 100%.


especially when they're off duty and talking to a civilian reporter about their hat.
 
2013-10-26 02:30:59 AM  

Pointy Tail of Satan: The Indian and Pakistani armies got the hat thing all figured out. They can punt a football like 80 yards too.


Ministry of Silly walks.
 
Oak
2013-10-26 02:37:40 AM  

maram500: lawboy87: Hey Sugartits,

The point I was making went right over your head didn't it?

Any reporter who called this a "hat" had almost certainly never spoken to a Marine, because they would use their own nomenclature to describe it, not use the "layman's" term "Hat."

The Marine Corps Uniform Regulations refer to the item as a "cover" (not a hat) and that is how any "real" Marine would refer to it.

Hey, lookie over here: I can "use" "quotes," too. It's as "easy" as hitting a couple of "keys." You see how annoying "this" is?

For all your proclaimed "knowledge," you're coming up a bit short. See, the entirety of the United States' military refers to the thing that sits atop a head (or under the left arm) as a cover. That goes for combination caps, barracks covers, and watch caps.

Please shut up.


"Coont cap" is the preferred nomenclature.
 
2013-10-26 02:53:53 AM  
Gotta love a bunch of trust fund wanna be core soldiers telling me I should be offended about changes to regulations
 
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