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(Huffington Post)   Sean Hannity gets woman fired then gives her "a year's salary" to compensate, which amounts to $26,000 - or roughly the amount he spent on steaks last summer   (huffingtonpost.com) divider line 134
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2013-10-25 09:24:57 AM  
hannity is an epic asshole, but at least he did try to do a good deed. or at least compensate for a bad one.
 
2013-10-25 09:59:25 AM  
Hannity needs to get fired for this, or fined. What he did by asking her permission to talk to him on the radio, while being live on the radio is against FCC Rules.

example. He needed her permission before putting her on the radio live.
 
2013-10-25 10:01:20 AM  

Unoriginal_Username: Hannity needs to get fired for this, or fined. What he did by asking her permission to talk to him on the radio, while being live on the radio is against FCC Rules.

example. He needed her permission before putting her on the radio live.


bah, ate my link
 
2013-10-25 10:11:57 AM  

FlashHarry: hannity is an epic asshole, but at least he did try to do a good deed. or at least compensate for a bad one.


I give him zero points.  He's an horrible human being.
 
2013-10-25 11:19:43 AM  

Unoriginal_Username: Unoriginal_Username: Hannity needs to get fired for this, or fined. What he did by asking her permission to talk to him on the radio, while being live on the radio is against FCC Rules.

example. He needed her permission before putting her on the radio live.

bah, ate my link


huh
t/y - I learned something over coffee :)
 
2013-10-25 11:20:46 AM  
Contemptible.
 
2013-10-25 11:21:09 AM  
No attempts at "good deeds" will ever detract from the fact that Sean Hannity is a wholly useless human being who should be biatchslapped until he passes out. Then when he wakes up, punched in the nuts.  Assuming he has any.
 
2013-10-25 11:21:43 AM  
I smell a new plan to shut down Obamacare. Line up all of the fundie talking heads and mass call these hotlines until there's nobody left.
 
2013-10-25 11:21:45 AM  
I'm willing to bet rules on media contacts were somewhere in her employee handbook.
 
2013-10-25 11:21:48 AM  
Wait, did he represent himself during this call as media, or as just a member of the public?
 
2013-10-25 11:22:30 AM  
They shouldn't have fired her.  Maybe reprimanded her, but not fired.

I'm sure her "extensive" training probably didn't include scenarios of "if a pretentious douchebag radio host calls you up, do not give permission to go on the air and talk about your job."
 
2013-10-25 11:23:22 AM  

Unoriginal_Username: Unoriginal_Username: Hannity needs to get fired for this, or fined. What he did by asking her permission to talk to him on the radio, while being live on the radio is against FCC Rules.

example. He needed her permission before putting her on the radio live.

bah, ate my link


Delay dumps...how do they work?
 
2013-10-25 11:23:32 AM  
Yeah let's talk about Sean Hannity, because he really deserves the attention.  Pay no attention to the fact that they fired her for talking to the media and possibly making Obamacare look bad.
 
2013-10-25 11:25:13 AM  
What did Hannity do wrong again?  Interview an Obamacare worker?  Wow.  That's the most open and transparent administration for you.

Future Training:
"We're not saying you can't talk to the press, but let's take a look at some of those that did...."
 
2013-10-25 11:25:21 AM  

ThatGuyFromTheInternet: Wait, did he represent himself during this call as media, or as just a member of the public?


He said you are live on the radio and identified himself.
 
2013-10-25 11:25:44 AM  
-50 for being a douche who was pulling a stunt for no other reason than to score political points

+10 for owning up to the consequences of his actions and doing the right thing.
 
2013-10-25 11:27:08 AM  
Davis claimed she was never told this and had no idea that this was company policy.

You're a moron then.  In every company in the world, if a wage-slave is asked a question about company business by a reporter or anyone from the media, the only acceptable answers are: "let me hand you over to my boss" or "here's the number of public relations."
 
2013-10-25 11:27:27 AM  

Satanic_Hamster: I'm willing to bet rules on media contacts were somewhere in her employee handbook.


She claims she was never told.  Maybe she's in on the conspiracy.
 
2013-10-25 11:27:35 AM  

tbeatty: What did Hannity do wrong again?  Interview an Obamacare worker?  Wow.  That's the most open and transparent administration for you.

Future Training:
"We're not saying you can't talk to the press, but let's take a look at some of those that did...."


It's been posted earlier in the thread, but asking someone if they're willing to do an on-air interview while they're on the air is illegal(with the possible exception of public figures).
 
2013-10-25 11:27:50 AM  

tbeatty: What did Hannity do wrong again?  Interview an Obamacare worker?  Wow.  That's the most open and transparent administration for you.

Future Training:
"We're not saying you can't talk to the press, but let's take a look at some of those that did...."


The "administration" didn't hire nor fire this employee.

Davis said that when she returned to work the morning after the phone call, she was escorted up to HR and told that she would be released from the company. When Hannity asked her what the specific reason was, she told him that her employer said she was not permitted to have contact with the media. Davis claimed she was never told this and had no idea that this was company policy.

Do you think the White House actually runs the hotline from the West Wing?
 
2013-10-25 11:28:36 AM  
Hannity promised Davis a one year tax-free salary of $26,000

How exactly does this work?
 
2013-10-25 11:28:48 AM  
The journalist is never your friend.
 
2013-10-25 11:28:58 AM  
I called her getting fired over this in the original thread
 
2013-10-25 11:28:59 AM  

paygun: Yeah let's talk about Sean Hannity, because he really deserves the attention.  Pay no attention to the fact that they fired her for talking to the media and possibly making Obamacare look bad.


Except that she didn't make them look bad and did quite well on what was obviously a Gotcha call by a radio host. I don't think she should have been fired but most jobs that deal with the public have it written into their contract that you don't make yourself available to the media without permission.
 
2013-10-25 11:30:04 AM  

FlashHarry: hannity is an epic asshole, but at least he did try to do a good deed. or at least compensate for a bad one.


but only because people will all over it for how douchey it was.  If this would have went under the radar, he wouldn't have given a fark
 
2013-10-25 11:30:11 AM  

HotWingConspiracy: Hannity promised Davis a one year tax-free salary of $26,000

How exactly does this work?


He's asking her to lie to the IRS?
 
2013-10-25 11:31:25 AM  

paygun: Satanic_Hamster: I'm willing to bet rules on media contacts were somewhere in her employee handbook.

She claims she was never told.  Maybe she's in on the conspiracy.


More then likely she was given a pamphlet / small book / whatever and was told to review/read it.
 
2013-10-25 11:32:02 AM  

ThatGuyFromTheInternet: Wait, did he represent himself during this call as media, or as just a member of the public?


He dials the number.
The automated answering machine starts off by saying "Welcome to the PPACA hotline.  Habla espanel pusho buttono two-o."

However, as soon as the 'welcome' is said, he starts repeated "Hi, my name is Sean.  What's yours?  Hi, my name is Sean, what's yours".  Because apparently he's never called an automated telephone line before.  About seven seconds into the call the computer realizes it's attempting to interact with a complete moron, and passes him off to a live operator.  Which is impressive - say what you will about Obamacare glitches, but they have managed to put together a phone system that does a better job of passing a Turing test than Foxnews employees.

Then he starts by asking the woman if she would agree to speak live on the radio with him.  Which, as Unoriginal_username pointed out, was a bit late to be asking that question, since he already had her live on the air.
 
2013-10-25 11:32:58 AM  

Satanic_Hamster: paygun: Satanic_Hamster: I'm willing to bet rules on media contacts were somewhere in her employee handbook.

She claims she was never told.  Maybe she's in on the conspiracy.

More then likely she was given a pamphlet / small book / whatever and was told to review/read it.


Meh, it's on our Sharepoint site and I've glazed over it.
 
2013-10-25 11:33:18 AM  

HotWingConspiracy: Hannity promised Davis a one year tax-free salary of $26,000

How exactly does this work?


He gives her the $26,000, then writes it off as a business expense, meaning he doesn't have to pay taxes on it.
 
2013-10-25 11:34:26 AM  

Karac: HotWingConspiracy: Hannity promised Davis a one year tax-free salary of $26,000

How exactly does this work?

He gives her the $26,000, then writes it off as a business expense, meaning he doesn't have to pay taxes on it.


More likely is that he will give her enough extra to pay the taxes on the $26,000 to offset.
 
2013-10-25 11:35:35 AM  

Karac: HotWingConspiracy: Hannity promised Davis a one year tax-free salary of $26,000

How exactly does this work?

He gives her the $26,000, then writes it off as a business expense, meaning he doesn't have to pay taxes on it.


But in that other thread conservatives insist that giving poors money will turn them in to alcoholic crackheads.
 
2013-10-25 11:38:30 AM  

JusticeandIndependence: tbeatty: What did Hannity do wrong again?  Interview an Obamacare worker?  Wow.  That's the most open and transparent administration for you.

Future Training:
"We're not saying you can't talk to the press, but let's take a look at some of those that did...."

The "administration" didn't hire nor fire this employee.

Davis said that when she returned to work the morning after the phone call, she was escorted up to HR and told that she would be released from the company. When Hannity asked her what the specific reason was, she told him that her employer said she was not permitted to have contact with the media. Davis claimed she was never told this and had no idea that this was company policy.

Do you think the White House actually runs the hotline from the West Wing?


The person you're responding to does not care about either of those points.
 
2013-10-25 11:39:19 AM  

tbeatty: What did Hannity do wrong again?  Interview an Obamacare worker?  Wow.  That's the most open and transparent administration for you.

Future Training:
"We're not saying you can't talk to the press, but let's take a look at some of those that did...."


This isn't an administration issue. I have had call center jobs and they make it abundantly clear that you are not to speak to the media. In addition if you are being recorded hang up immediately.

I listen to right wing radio in the car and happened to be listening when he called. I remember thinking "If she doesn't hang up she is so fired."

As much as a douchebag as he is, good on him for paying her. And it is pretty sad that people have to call 26k a year their salary.
 
2013-10-25 11:40:11 AM  
If my handy conservative pundit operating manual is correct Hannity will deftly switch from 'Alternate Procedure D -- Trolling the Help' back to 'Standard Procedure A -- Outrage' and he'll complain about how Obama fired this poor woman he used to attack her employer.

I've looked through this manual three times and I can't find any procedures for admitting liability.
 
2013-10-25 11:40:55 AM  

Satanic_Hamster: I'm willing to bet rules on media contacts were somewhere in her employee handbook.


Seantanic_Hannister?

/to be fair i'm sure they WERE, just not spelled out as "when a douchebag tries to troll you, you just entered the magical no-comment-land"
 
2013-10-25 11:40:57 AM  
I didn't read the article, listen to the intervew, and I hate Hannity as much as the next guy and think he should be stabbed in the dick repeatedly but HE did not "get her fired". When you are at work, you don't do radio interviews. She got herself fired for being a dumbass. If she went on her free time and interviewed she'd still have her job.So stop blaming Hannity and stop blaming Obama.
 
2013-10-25 11:42:08 AM  

Karac: ThatGuyFromTheInternet: Wait, did he represent himself during this call as media, or as just a member of the public?

He dials the number.
The automated answering machine starts off by saying "Welcome to the PPACA hotline.  Habla espanel pusho buttono two-o."

However, as soon as the 'welcome' is said, he starts repeated "Hi, my name is Sean.  What's yours?  Hi, my name is Sean, what's yours".  Because apparently he's never called an automated telephone line before.  About seven seconds into the call the computer realizes it's attempting to interact with a complete moron, and passes him off to a live operator.  Which is impressive - say what you will about Obamacare glitches, but they have managed to put together a phone system that does a better job of passing a Turing test than Foxnews employees.

Then he starts by asking the woman if she would agree to speak live on the radio with him.  Which, as Unoriginal_username pointed out, was a bit late to be asking that question, since he already had her live on the air.


And if she handled the situation properly and said, "I am sorry sir, but I am not authorized to speak to the media.  I am a customer service representative.  Media inquiries should be directed to --- ----", what would have happened?

"Ah ha!  There you go. The 0bamacare drones are FORBIDDEN to speak to the media! You just heard her say that! Censorship! Cover-up! If 0bamacare is so good, why aren't their own people singing its praises? What have they got to hide?"
 
2013-10-25 11:42:22 AM  

onzmadi: +10 for owning up to the consequences of his actions and doing the right thing


He SAID he'd give her some cash.

I won't believe it until it actually happens.  Mostly because Hannity has all the integrity of pond scum.
 
2013-10-25 11:43:37 AM  

jst3p: As much as a douchebag as he is, good on him for paying her. And it is pretty sad that people have to call 26k a year their salary.


I've got a BSc in computers, a list of school awards (okay, like 5, but still!), and I'm making... 28k I think? I've got some great perks, but jobs are shiat all over.

And while I agree that as a call center person she probably was pretty clearly educated on their big no-nos (don't talk to media, don't take more than 5 squares of TP? I don't know), more so than the receptionist to a doctor's office would be.

On the third hand, I would think that the call center would make an exception (and maybe a bit of an example with a reprimand) for someone who genuinely thought they were trying to be helpful... And who might have blanked on the no-media thing.
 
2013-10-25 11:44:05 AM  

HotWingConspiracy: Hannity promised Davis a one year tax-free salary of $26,000

How exactly does this work?


guessing HE is cheating on his taxes by making a "donation" to her.
 
2013-10-25 11:44:31 AM  

jst3p: This isn't an administration issue. I have had call center jobs and they make it abundantly clear that you are not to speak to the media. In addition if you are being recorded hang up immediately.

I listen to right wing radio in the car and happened to be listening when he called. I remember thinking "If she doesn't hang up she is so fired."

As much as a douchebag as he is, good on him for paying her. And it is pretty sad that people have to call 26k a year their salary.


CSB:
We had a robocaller calling our offices mainline constantly for a debt collector looking for an ex-employee.  I called the call back number to politely tell them that person does not work here and they should stop calling.  When I said that I was instructing our secretary to make a record the date and time of each robocall and send it to our legal department, the woman yelled "you can't record our calls" and hung up on me.

Eventually got another person to remove us from their autodial list.
 
2013-10-25 11:46:30 AM  

Parthenogenetic: Karac: ThatGuyFromTheInternet: Wait, did he represent himself during this call as media, or as just a member of the public?

He dials the number.
The automated answering machine starts off by saying "Welcome to the PPACA hotline.  Habla espanel pusho buttono two-o."

However, as soon as the 'welcome' is said, he starts repeated "Hi, my name is Sean.  What's yours?  Hi, my name is Sean, what's yours".  Because apparently he's never called an automated telephone line before.  About seven seconds into the call the computer realizes it's attempting to interact with a complete moron, and passes him off to a live operator.  Which is impressive - say what you will about Obamacare glitches, but they have managed to put together a phone system that does a better job of passing a Turing test than Foxnews employees.

Then he starts by asking the woman if she would agree to speak live on the radio with him.  Which, as Unoriginal_username pointed out, was a bit late to be asking that question, since he already had her live on the air.

And if she handled the situation properly and said, "I am sorry sir, but I am not authorized to speak to the media.  I am a customer service representative.  Media inquiries should be directed to --- ----", what would have happened?

"Ah ha!  There you go. The 0bamacare drones are FORBIDDEN to speak to the media! You just heard her say that! Censorship! Cover-up! If 0bamacare is so good, why aren't their own people singing its praises? What have they got to hide?"


So Hannity spews a different RWTP.  But she still has her job.
 
2013-10-25 11:48:31 AM  

JusticeandIndependence: Karac: HotWingConspiracy: Hannity promised Davis a one year tax-free salary of $26,000

How exactly does this work?

He gives her the $26,000, then writes it off as a business expense, meaning he doesn't have to pay taxes on it.

More likely is that he will give her enough extra to pay the taxes on the $26,000 to offset.


Yeah, that was worded incorrectly. It should have said "$26,000, after taxes". Although Hannity might not be that smart, he might just give her 26k and tell her not to pay taxes on it.
 
2013-10-25 11:48:31 AM  

Aidan: jst3p: As much as a douchebag as he is, good on him for paying her. And it is pretty sad that people have to call 26k a year their salary.

I've got a BSc in computers, a list of school awards (okay, like 5, but still!), and I'm making... 28k I think? I've got some great perks, but jobs are shiat all over.

And while I agree that as a call center person she probably was pretty clearly educated on their big no-nos (don't talk to media, don't take more than 5 squares of TP? I don't know), more so than the receptionist to a doctor's office would be.

On the third hand, I would think that the call center would make an exception (and maybe a bit of an example with a reprimand) for someone who genuinely thought they were trying to be helpful... And who might have blanked on the no-media thing.


Call centers don't care about anything but the bottom line. They have a backlog of people waiting to take that cubicle. I have never felt more like an interchangeable cog than when my total worth was judged by average call time and CFP (Courteous, Friendly and Professional) numbers on post call surveys.
 
2013-10-25 11:48:44 AM  

cynicalminion: Satanic_Hamster: I'm willing to bet rules on media contacts were somewhere in her employee handbook.

Seantanic_Hannister?

/to be fair i'm sure they WERE, just not spelled out as "when a douchebag tries to troll you, you just entered the magical no-comment-land"


No, but I'm willing to bet that they were instructed that if they were informed they were told the call was being recorded, broadcast, or the caller was looking for an interview they were to refer the caller to the legal/public relations contact and then hang up.  That's pretty standard policies for any call center.  Hell, for ANY employee at any company that answers the phones.
 
2013-10-25 11:49:38 AM  

Fart_Machine: I don't think she should have been fired


I don't think so either, where was the beer summit this time?  I think it's telling that there wasn't one.
 
2013-10-25 11:50:06 AM  

jst3p: tbeatty: What did Hannity do wrong again?  Interview an Obamacare worker?  Wow.  That's the most open and transparent administration for you.

Future Training:
"We're not saying you can't talk to the press, but let's take a look at some of those that did...."

This isn't an administration issue. I have had call center jobs and they make it abundantly clear that you are not to speak to the media. In addition if you are being recorded hang up immediately.

I listen to right wing radio in the car and happened to be listening when he called. I remember thinking "If she doesn't hang up she is so fired."

As much as a douchebag as he is, good on him for paying her. And it is pretty sad that people have to call 26k a year their salary.


I said exactly the same thing. Worked for Verizon, and later AT&T, for a decade and they hammered that idea into us that you do NOT talk to the media unless you are in the PR department. Refresher classes every 12-18 months, in fact. She either didn't care or didn't read/pay attention when they told her. Or maybe it was just a jobby-job to her and she just didn't care. Having known many VZW/AT&T call-center employees in my time, this doesn't surprise me much. In fact nowadays most call centers are outsourced for Level 1 or 2 support.
 
2013-10-25 11:50:58 AM  
Did he ever follow through on his promise to be waterboarded for charity? If I were this woman, I wouldn't count on getting that money any time soon.
 
2013-10-25 11:52:09 AM  
"Hannity promised Davis a one year tax-free salary of $26,000"

Huh. Sean Hannity gets to decide what is and isn't taxed?
 
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