steve42: I'm all in favor of the investigation of "alternative, less damaging ways to generate energy." I simply believe that if there is to be a viable alternative to petroleum-based power of any sort, it will come from a free-market implementation of technology developed by privately funded research. The government throwing money down the rat-hole of research into solar, wind, and other green power options is not going to do it. If someone comes up with a viable and sustainable solution, there are entrepreneurs and investors who will beat their door down to get involved.Mandating that the petroleum companies fund the research, that the automakers invest in it before the market is ready, and that taxpayers subsidize the efforts is counter-productive. It sucks money out of the economy without any assurance of a return.
barc0001: libranoelrose: I'll never understand the hate, I guessPeople fear change, even if it's a positive change. At the end of the day, humans are still just dumb animals deep down inside.
libranoelrose: I'll never understand the hate, I guess
Corvus: Because gas cars NEVER catch on fire. ?I always don't understand the hate for new technology. People just want to attack things because they are afraid of change.
spmkk: jimpapa: "something tells me if that same hunk of metal had gone into a traditional gas filled tank it would have been a lot worse than a battery fire that never threatened into the passenger compartment"Yeah -- that "something" is the Tesla PR team. Damn near verbatim in the company's official blog post, you farking shill: "It is important to note that the fire in the battery was contained to a small section near the front by the internal firewalls built into the pack structure. At no point did fire enter the passenger compartment. Had a conventional gasoline car encountered the same object on the highway, the result could have been far worse."For my part, if "something" is going to inform me about physical reality, I'd like that something to be facts -- i.e. data that are discovered through an investigation, not opinions and marketing messages that are sold as data when an investigation is suppressed.
a particular individual: libranoelrose: I'll never understand the hate, I guessIt's mostly from conservatives who have been conditioned to hate anything that deprives Big Oil of record profits. Same for Big Coal. Hence, their irrational loathing of compact fluorescents and wind and solar energy.
jshine: Corvus: I always don't understand the hate for new technology. People just want to attack things because they are afraid of change.I don't know, but I think some people see the fawning, completely uncritical adoration for a company or technology (think Apple fanboys) and react with visceral disgust. I can see some of both sides of that coin with regards to Tesla.Personally, it seems like a neat idea, but I've got a few issues that would prevent me from buying one as-is:1) they're very expensive2) if you ran out of "fuel" in an awkward location (yes, yes, this should never happen, I know), there is no way to bring fuel to the car; you'd have to tow it to an outlet3) I would want to see empirical reliability data on the batteries in extreme cold. Living in Minnesota, gasoline cars often *barely* start when it's -20 F outside, and battery performance is strongly dependent on temperature.
Cletus C.: Ned Stark: Cletus C.: A car priced for the wealthy that promises a trickle down sometime in the future for the less-well-to-do. Yet it's green, so ....Yes because a first generation tech product marketed to early adopters is entirely analogous to national tax and economic policy.It's priced out of range of most Americans. That's OK in this scenario. Trust us, you'll get yours later, poors.
anfrind: If all human progress were the result of privately funded research, we'd still be sitting in caves trying to decide if rocks are edible.
mikaloyd: How did Tesla become a Republican vs Democrat thing?
DrZiffle: Yes. A gas-powered, internal combustion engine has never been know to explode.
jayhawk88: New things are scary.
DarkSoulNoHope: There should be an investigation, but to the Republicans it doesn't matter, even if the results came out positively for the Tesla company. If it isn't an oil distillate powered vehicle, than it doesn't belong on the road in their opinion, because that would hurt the profits of oil companies that they support over the attempts to investigate alternative, less damaging ways to generate energy.
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