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2013-10-25 08:08:45 AM  
Because the first one was such a huge success? Microsoft just loves beating a dead horse, don't they?
 
2013-10-25 08:13:53 AM  
Just like an iPad lolz!

/I am your father
 
2013-10-25 08:19:13 AM  

Smashed Hat: Because the first one was such a huge success? Microsoft just loves beating a dead horse, don't they?


the sad thing is, if Microsoft dropped the price, it would've kicked a lot of ass. As it was, a lot of people who would've bought it (myself included) were hindered by the farking grand they were asking for the Pro.

I do love the tablet, I just can't afford that

/and fark Windows RT
//though that's still fairly good, just really tied down
 
2013-10-25 11:10:50 AM  
Only poors use non-Apple products
 
2013-10-25 11:11:06 AM  

Smashed Hat: Because the first one was such a huge success? Microsoft just loves beating a dead horse, don't they?


The Surface Pro is not a bad product. It was just poorly marketed and unnecessarily associated with the disaster that is Surface RT
 
2013-10-25 11:18:44 AM  
Wake me when you revive plans for the Courier.
 
2013-10-25 11:19:23 AM  

dukeblue219: Smashed Hat: Because the first one was such a huge success? Microsoft just loves beating a dead horse, don't they?

The Surface Pro is not a bad product. It was just poorly marketed and unnecessarily associated with the disaster that is Surface RT


Microsoft's marketing is really what killed them -- with the Surface Pro (which is a rather nice laptop), Windows 8 (which is actually a rather nice OS even if it has a funk start menu), and the XBox One (which basically gave gamers everything that they wanted and were complaining about).  Well, that and the Surface RT, which was a horrible, horrible, horrible product.
 
2013-10-25 11:19:44 AM  
Same as it ever was.  Same as it ever was.
 
2013-10-25 11:25:46 AM  

dukeblue219: Smashed Hat: Because the first one was such a huge success? Microsoft just loves beating a dead horse, don't they?

The Surface Pro is not a bad product. It was just poorly marketed and unnecessarily associated with the disaster that is Surface RT


Batter life sucked, switching to the new Haswell processor fixed that (if you believe the marketing specs)
 
2013-10-25 11:30:03 AM  

Smashed Hat: Because the first one was such a huge success? Microsoft just loves beating a dead horse, don't they?


According to last night's earning's call, last quarter's revenue saw a ~$400 million bump upwards from increased sales of Surface devices . . .

/only on fark & the circle jerk of the Register that nearly half a billion in sales is a failure.
 
2013-10-25 11:32:37 AM  
Is it easier to break dance with than the first gen Surface Pro?
 
2013-10-25 11:33:14 AM  

meanmutton: dukeblue219: Smashed Hat: Because the first one was such a huge success? Microsoft just loves beating a dead horse, don't they?

The Surface Pro is not a bad product. It was just poorly marketed and unnecessarily associated with the disaster that is Surface RT

Microsoft's marketing is really what killed them -- with the Surface Pro (which is a rather nice laptop), Windows 8 (which is actually a rather nice OS even if it has a funk start menu), and the XBox One (which basically gave gamers everything that they wanted and were complaining about).  Well, that and the Surface RT, which was a horrible, horrible, horrible product.


If by "gave gamers everything that they wanted" you mean being forced to be online even for single player offline games, not being able to buy/sell used games, forced to be in front of a web cam at all times during operation of the console, then yea, you're right.

You have to work for Microsoft. No one could objectively be that blind
 
2013-10-25 11:34:26 AM  
I hear that the pro 2 will come out next year with a 500GB drive.

I'm hoping to snatch up an original pro once they go on sale when the pro 2 comes out!
 
2013-10-25 11:35:08 AM  
I have several large industrial projects that might be perfect for Surface.  It can run IIS and SQL Server.  I have 10K users that need to collect lots of data while they are offline and smoothly replicate that data centrally.  I don't want to buy them all toughbooks.

Probably 50% of the ambulances in the country carry toughbooks running heavy client/server software for Patient Care Reports. Surface would be great there too.

Basically I'm trying to justify buying one for myself.
 
2013-10-25 11:44:53 AM  
I picked up a Surface RT when they cut the price to $350 and I don't regret it at all, it's a great little tablet for everything I need a tablet for, and if I need to get some office work done, the ability to use the full Office suite is a nice little bonus.

I don't think I'd shell out for the Pro version, even with the ability to run full Windows 8, but at $350, the RT is great, way better than my wife's iPad.
 
2013-10-25 11:44:59 AM  

Surface Pro is a tablet that wants to be a notebook and notebook that wants to be a tablet. And priced double for the pleasure.


While RT is doa, I will admit I'm semi tempted to get the new Dell Venue 8. $300 for an 8" Windows 8.1 tablet with an Intel processor. Even with a case and stylus it's an attractive little bundle.

 
2013-10-25 11:45:10 AM  

MindStalker: I hear that the pro 2 will come out next year with a 500GB drive.

I'm hoping to snatch up an original pro once they go on sale when the pro 2 comes out!


I saw a couple 512Gb pro's go out the door at my nearby Best Buy on Tuesday - but they only got 4 and they were all pre-ordered. They're currently back ordered until Dec 15. The original Pro's price dropped on Tuesday by $100.

Amazingly, there were dozens of people buying Surface Pro 2's and Surface 2's when I was there. The place was nearly wiped out of stock.
 
2013-10-25 11:45:48 AM  
Much like bank checks, I don't take then below 1000.
 
2013-10-25 11:48:55 AM  

meanmutton: dukeblue219: Smashed Hat: Because the first one was such a huge success? Microsoft just loves beating a dead horse, don't they?

The Surface Pro is not a bad product. It was just poorly marketed and unnecessarily associated with the disaster that is Surface RT

Microsoft's marketing is really what killed them -- with the Surface Pro (which is a rather nice laptop), Windows 8 (which is actually a rather nice OS even if it has a funk start menu), and the XBox One (which basically gave gamers everything that they wanted and were complaining about).  Well, that and the Surface RT, which was a horrible, horrible, horrible product.


Er, no.  Gamers weren't complaining that Kinect wasn't mandatory, that HDD installs weren't required for every game, that a retail-purchased disc-based game could be resold, or that there should be a one-per-day phone-home or else the console becomes a brick.  Never happened.

There was nothing Microsoft PR could have done to turn any of those things around.  All MS could do was backpedal and remove them.  And they did (you still have to  pay for a Kinect, but you don't have to use it anymore).  Gamers didn't want any of that crap, and now it's gone, which is a good thing.

Solid digital distribution akin to Steam?  Yes.  Gamers wanted that.  It doesn't require a 24-hour check in to do that.

Retail physical copies of games that are self-contained and free (as in speech)?  Yes.  Gamers wanted that.  It's the way game distribution has worked since the beginning of gaming consoles.  They wanted that to continue, and to exist along-side the digital system, not to be replaced by it - especially with the rarity of decent internet in this country...

Kinect to be an optional accessory?  Yes*.  Gamers wanted Kinect to be optional.  Motion gaming has proven to be a flop, much like stereoscopic 3D (Oculus Rift doesn't count yet).  It's good for a limited number of gameplay styles, which do not appeal to everybody.     (*They also didn't want to have to pay for it unless they had need of it, but MS will be slow to backpedal that one - it will happen eventually)

The XBone started out as a PR disaster precisely because it delivered things that gamers  did not want, and they weren't optional.

Surface Pro on the other hand,  did provide things that many people wanted, but it did so at a non-competitive price, was poorly marketed (so as to get confused with Surface RT), and just kinda fell into the category of "neat idea, but meh."  I'd love to have one, but not at the price they ask.  I've always wanted a full-feature Windows tablet.
 
2013-10-25 11:52:27 AM  

error 303: I picked up a Surface RT when they cut the price to $350 and I don't regret it at all, it's a great little tablet for everything I need a tablet for, and if I need to get some office work done, the ability to use the full Office suite is a nice little bonus.

I don't think I'd shell out for the Pro version, even with the ability to run full Windows 8, but at $350, the RT is great, way better than my wife's iPad.


I liked my Surface RT, especially since the performance kept getting better with the monthly firmware updates. When it launched, it would crap out with 720p video - it seems to play that video smoothly now. It wasn't half bad at editing single .RAW photos from my Canon 5Dmii either.

I got my office to buy me a Surface 2; and while the chassis is more similar than I expected, the performance and high end screen is well, well worth $450. It handles 1080p like nothing, the extra setting on the kickstand is surprisingly nice, the front and rear cameras are greatly improved. I haven't tried it yet, but I believe it now can use the Pro's stylus too, which is a bonus.

/my g/f was psyched to get my old Surface.
//I'll be interested to see what she thinks of it in a few weeks.
 
2013-10-25 11:55:11 AM  

simusid: I have several large industrial projects that might be perfect for Surface.  It can run IIS and SQL Server.  I have 10K users that need to collect lots of data while they are offline and smoothly replicate that data centrally.  I don't want to buy them all toughbooks.

Probably 50% of the ambulances in the country carry toughbooks running heavy client/server software for Patient Care Reports. Surface would be great there too.

Basically I'm trying to justify buying one for myself.


i want one to use as a fancy wacom tablet basically, as well as an away computer... i've got an ipad 4 but mostly just use it for youtube/ibooks/expensive picture frame (nothing productive), also having a full OS on a tablet would be useful, as would having a way to physically connect other devices
 
2013-10-25 11:56:25 AM  

dukeblue219: Smashed Hat: Because the first one was such a huge success? Microsoft just loves beating a dead horse, don't they?

The Surface Pro is not a bad product. It was just poorly marketed and unnecessarily associated with the disaster that is Surface RT


And it's gaining traction, as well. Once Surface RT (and Windows RT) were yanked, the Surface Pro wasn't a bad tool, and the Surface 2's improvements have put it on par with other tablets.
 
2013-10-25 11:56:35 AM  

swaxhog: Surface Pro is a tablet that wants to be a notebook and notebook that wants to be a tablet. And priced double for the pleasure.
While RT is doa, I will admit I'm semi tempted to get the new Dell Venue 8. $300 for an 8" Windows 8.1 tablet with an Intel processor. Even with a case and stylus it's an attractive little bundle.


The Pro is comparable to other ultrabooks in price point

The Dell one is competing against other low end, atom based netbooks/notebooks
 
2013-10-25 11:59:04 AM  
who buys a tablet expecting to be able to tear it apart?
 
2013-10-25 12:00:12 PM  

MrSteve007: error 303: I picked up a Surface RT when they cut the price to $350 and I don't regret it at all, it's a great little tablet for everything I need a tablet for, and if I need to get some office work done, the ability to use the full Office suite is a nice little bonus.

I don't think I'd shell out for the Pro version, even with the ability to run full Windows 8, but at $350, the RT is great, way better than my wife's iPad.

I liked my Surface RT, especially since the performance kept getting better with the monthly firmware updates. When it launched, it would crap out with 720p video - it seems to play that video smoothly now. It wasn't half bad at editing single .RAW photos from my Canon 5Dmii either.

I got my office to buy me a Surface 2; and while the chassis is more similar than I expected, the performance and high end screen is well, well worth $450. It handles 1080p like nothing, the extra setting on the kickstand is surprisingly nice, the front and rear cameras are greatly improved. I haven't tried it yet, but I believe it now can use the Pro's stylus too, which is a bonus.

/my g/f was psyched to get my old Surface.
//I'll be interested to see what she thinks of it in a few weeks.


Good to know. I haven't had mine too long, but with Christmas coming up, gift ideas are always good to have.

I think I want an Xbox One over a PS4 as well.

... I think I'm a Microsoft fanboi. It happened so gradually, I barely even noticed ;/
 
2013-10-25 12:06:10 PM  

error 303: I don't think I'd shell out for the Pro version, even with the ability to run full Windows 8, but at $350, the RT is great, way better than my wife's iPad.


No, it's not great. Windows RT sucks, no matter what tablet it's on. At least with the iPad you actually have some apps available. With RT, you're stuck with the very limited MS App store.

Go with a different manufacture, and get a full Win 8 tablet. They can be had for under $500
 
2013-10-25 12:10:57 PM  

Abe Vigoda's Ghost: error 303: I don't think I'd shell out for the Pro version, even with the ability to run full Windows 8, but at $350, the RT is great, way better than my wife's iPad.

No, it's not great. Windows RT sucks, no matter what tablet it's on. At least with the iPad you actually have some apps available. With RT, you're stuck with the very limited MS App store.

Go with a different manufacture, and get a full Win 8 tablet. They can be had for under $500


But I never do anything with apps?
 
2013-10-25 12:15:27 PM  
So just like apple products then?

Buy our new iPhone 326R! Same as all the others but Shinier!
 
2013-10-25 12:15:40 PM  

error 303: Abe Vigoda's Ghost: error 303: I don't think I'd shell out for the Pro version, even with the ability to run full Windows 8, but at $350, the RT is great, way better than my wife's iPad.

No, it's not great. Windows RT sucks, no matter what tablet it's on. At least with the iPad you actually have some apps available. With RT, you're stuck with the very limited MS App store.

Go with a different manufacture, and get a full Win 8 tablet. They can be had for under $500

But I never do anything with apps?


I have an Asus  vivotab  RT with the free keyboard dock.  I don't do anything with apps either.  I use this for netflix, NFL on demand, Ms office while away from the office, remoting in to my office system and internet browsing.  It is perfect for all of these tasks. If thats all you really want to do on a tablet, then go for it. If you want any other windows based applications to use, go for the pro.
 
2013-10-25 12:26:49 PM  
"iFixit's teardown of the new slate reveals that its guts are full of thick, tacky glue and more than 90 screws, just like its predecessor. And just like the first Surface Pro, it earns a Reparability Score of 1 out of 10."

I don't think anyone buying these are concerned about how easy they are to take apart.
 
2013-10-25 12:30:02 PM  
How on Earth is this headline related in any way to the teardown TFA is about? Did dumbmitter just completely misunderstand the video or was this just a really confusing troll attempt?
 
2013-10-25 12:35:11 PM  

simusid: I have several large industrial projects that might be perfect for Surface.  It can run IIS and SQL Server.  I have 10K users that need to collect lots of data while they are offline and smoothly replicate that data centrally.  I don't want to buy them all toughbooks.

Probably 50% of the ambulances in the country carry toughbooks running heavy client/server software for Patient Care Reports. Surface would be great there too.

Basically I'm trying to justify buying one for myself.


I'm trying to convince my boss to get me one as my laptop/desktop.  The new docking station and dual monitor support sells it for me, bigtime.
 
2013-10-25 12:37:43 PM  

Where wolf: dual monitor support


Really? Hmmmmm. Sort of want....
 
2013-10-25 12:43:01 PM  

JohnBigBootay: Where wolf: dual monitor support

Really? Hmmmmm. Sort of want....


That was my reaction. If I'm not going to get a workstation - level behemoth, get me something cool that can run solid works and league of legends and I'll be happy.
 
2013-10-25 12:43:24 PM  

Kuroshin: Kinect to be an optional accessory?  Yes*.  Gamers wanted Kinect to be optional.  Motion gaming has proven to be a flop, much like stereoscopic 3D (Oculus Rift doesn't count yet).  It's good for a limited number of gameplay styles, which do not appeal to everybody.     (*They also didn't want to have to pay for it unless they had need of it, but MS will be slow to backpedal that one - it will happen eventually)


I can sort of see why they wanted to do this - if you make any part of a console optional, then games can't really be designed around it, meaning it just becomes a drag on developers for that system - as they essentially have to design two control methods for the game, one using the optional part, one without. Or just ignore it.
 
2013-10-25 12:45:14 PM  

ShadowKamui: dukeblue219: Smashed Hat: Because the first one was such a huge success? Microsoft just loves beating a dead horse, don't they?

The Surface Pro is not a bad product. It was just poorly marketed and unnecessarily associated with the disaster that is Surface RT

Batter life sucked, switching to the new Haswell processor fixed that (if you believe the marketing specs)


Not compared to a real tablet that actually has a large selection of touch based apps.

dl.dropboxusercontent.com
 
2013-10-25 12:47:00 PM  

JohnBigBootay: Where wolf: dual monitor support

Really? Hmmmmm. Sort of want....


Displayport 1.2 support in the new Surface. In addition to the onboard screen, it can handle two additional monitors of 2560x1440 res, daisychained via the displayport cable.

/my 30" dell monitor should arrive next week!
 
2013-10-25 12:48:58 PM  

xria: Kuroshin: Kinect to be an optional accessory?  Yes*.  Gamers wanted Kinect to be optional.  Motion gaming has proven to be a flop, much like stereoscopic 3D (Oculus Rift doesn't count yet).  It's good for a limited number of gameplay styles, which do not appeal to everybody.     (*They also didn't want to have to pay for it unless they had need of it, but MS will be slow to backpedal that one - it will happen eventually)

I can sort of see why they wanted to do this - if you make any part of a console optional, then games can't really be designed around it, meaning it just becomes a drag on developers for that system - as they essentially have to design two control methods for the game, one using the optional part, one without. Or just ignore it.


i don't buy it, there will be a bigger barrier to online play on an xbone than there will be for requiring a kinect game since the kinect still comes in every box
 
2013-10-25 01:00:05 PM  

BullBearMS: Not compared to a real tablet that actually has a large selection of touch based apps.


In fairness I'm thinking of a road device for work and I need the full office suite - there's only one two devices on that list that has chips that will run it. And what do you know, that higher powered chip is also the reason for the lower battery life. It's almost like this makes perfect sense.
 
2013-10-25 01:08:39 PM  

xria: Kuroshin: Kinect to be an optional accessory?  Yes*.  Gamers wanted Kinect to be optional.  Motion gaming has proven to be a flop, much like stereoscopic 3D (Oculus Rift doesn't count yet).  It's good for a limited number of gameplay styles, which do not appeal to everybody.     (*They also didn't want to have to pay for it unless they had need of it, but MS will be slow to backpedal that one - it will happen eventually)

I can sort of see why they wanted to do this - if you make any part of a console optional, then games can't really be designed around it, meaning it just becomes a drag on developers for that system - as they essentially have to design two control methods for the game, one using the optional part, one without. Or just ignore it.


.

It makes sense if you're trying to push a gimmick.  The ethically-bankrupt part of this is that MS is forcing the consumer to pay for something they don't want, in order to get something they do.  If the Kinect were fully-subsidized (it isn't subsidized at all - MS makes profit on every XBone sold), then the argument could be made that "want it or not, we're giving it to you so you can have it available."  As it sits right now, it's an unnecessary and unwanted additional expense.  The Kinect isn't a new thing anymore.  People know how it works, and how it affects gameplay.  It provides nothing for the vast majority of games types, only really finding use with full-body motion games like Dance Central.  For everything else, it's immersion-breaking and tacky.  Motion controls without tactile feedback are a dead-end.

I'm giving it a year or so before I look into getting an XBone.  By then there will likely be a Kinect-free version, or at least one will be in the pipe.  If not, there will at least be a loss-leader bundle that includes a couple exclusive games to offset the cost of the Kinect sensor that will sit in the box, unplugged from the system entirely.  Until then, my PC, PS3, 360 and eventual PS4 will pull TV gaming duty.  So far there's no "killer app" for the XBone anyway.  Not that there is for the PS4 either, although I'm reeeeaaaalllly looking forward to 'Contrast'.  I'm prepared for the typical console launch game drought.

Oh, and for the record, if they dropped the price to $400 (subsidizing the Kinect by $100, and bringing the price in-line with the PS4), I wouldn't wait for a year.  I'd jump in as soon as I could free the money.  I won't pay for a Kinect.
 
2013-10-25 01:09:57 PM  

dukeblue219: Smashed Hat: Because the first one was such a huge success? Microsoft just loves beating a dead horse, don't they?

The Surface Pro is not a bad product. It was just poorly marketed and unnecessarily associated with the disaster that is Surface RT


Pretty much this.  I finally tried a Surface Pro device the other day.  I was actually impressed with it, but it seemed to have gotten a lot of bad rap due to people not distinguishing between an RT and a Pro.  I'm guilty of that.

A lot of the functions on the Pro are not intuitive, like I had to really work through several prompts just to get find a video and get it to play, when it really should be just one or two clicks.  But the concept, an all-in-one device with useful ports, is exactly the right way to go.  Price point is still bad.  Drop another $200, and I'll buy one as my next PC.

As long as Microsoft doesn't abandon this the way they did with the Zune and so many of their old products, and throw its whole company behind it, and improve on the marketing, and reduce prices, it will definitely save Microsoft in the long run.
 
2013-10-25 01:18:16 PM  

JohnBigBootay: BullBearMS: Not compared to a real tablet that actually has a large selection of touch based apps.

In fairness I'm thinking of a road device for work and I need the full office suite - there's only one two devices on that list that has chips that will run it. And what do you know, that higher powered chip is also the reason for the lower battery life. It's almost like this makes perfect sense.


Not really.

The MacBook Airs use the exact same Haswell CPU.

dl.dropboxusercontent.com
 
2013-10-25 01:18:35 PM  
AdamK:

i want one to use as a fancy wacom tablet basically, as well as an away computer... i've got an ipad 4 but mostly just use it for youtube/ibooks/expensive picture frame (nothing productive), also having a full OS on a tablet would be useful, as would having a way to physically connect other devices

I picked up a Surface Pro 2 this week just for that purpose.  I have a regular wacom cintiq at home, but I wanted something for portability, and since my netbook is several years old figured it was time to update. It's about half the cost of the wacom tablets that are coming out too, which helps.

So far I've been pleased with it.  You do have to adjust your work flow a bit do to smaller screen size/less buttons, and the stylus kind of goes wonky when you get close to the edges, but that's to be expected.  Not super excited about Win 8, but so far there hasn't been any show stoppers, even if I do spend most my time on the desktop and not the start tiles.
 
2013-10-25 01:20:04 PM  
 
2013-10-25 01:22:07 PM  

BullBearMS: JohnBigBootay: BullBearMS: Not compared to a real tablet that actually has a large selection of touch based apps.

In fairness I'm thinking of a road device for work and I need the full office suite - there's only one two devices on that list that has chips that will run it. And what do you know, that higher powered chip is also the reason for the lower battery life. It's almost like this makes perfect sense.

Not really.

The MacBook Airs use the exact same Haswell CPU.

[dl.dropboxusercontent.com image 600x176]


and a larger battery 54Wh compared to 42Wh
 
2013-10-25 01:35:04 PM  

MindStalker: I hear that the pro 2 will come out next year with a 500GB drive.

I'm hoping to snatch up an original pro once they go on sale when the pro 2 comes out!


? The Surface Pro 2 is already available... the 512GB version is $1,799.
 
2013-10-25 01:35:40 PM  

olapbill: BullBearMS: JohnBigBootay: BullBearMS: Not compared to a real tablet that actually has a large selection of touch based apps.

In fairness I'm thinking of a road device for work and I need the full office suite - there's only one two devices on that list that has chips that will run it. And what do you know, that higher powered chip is also the reason for the lower battery life. It's almost like this makes perfect sense.

Not really.

The MacBook Airs use the exact same Haswell CPU.

[dl.dropboxusercontent.com image 600x176]

and a larger battery 54Wh compared to 42Wh


The eleven inch Air has a slightly smaller battery, and still got an extra four and a half hours on the same test.

That's even before installing the current OS which had extending battery lite as a major feature.

We'll have to wait and see how that affected Andandtech's numbers.

Testing at Ars Technica showed a big increase, but I'm not as confident in their testing methodology.

dl.dropboxusercontent.com
 
2013-10-25 01:39:59 PM  

BullBearMS: Not really.

The MacBook Airs use the exact same Haswell CPU.


A. Not on the list that you posted and I responded to.

B. It has a larger battery so no shiat.
 
2013-10-25 01:46:12 PM  

JohnBigBootay: BullBearMS: Not really.

The MacBook Airs use the exact same Haswell CPU.

A. Not on the list that you posted and I responded to.

B. It has a larger battery so no shiat.


dl.dropboxusercontent.com

See where it says the eleven inch air has a 38 Watt Hour battery and scored 11.10 hours of battery life on the test?

The Surface Pro 2 has a 31 Whatt Hour battery and only scored 6.68 hours on the same test.

So yes, the Air has a slightly smaller battery but gets an extra four an a half hours of battery life even before upgrading to the current MacOS which will extend the lead farther.

We'll just have to wait for Anandtech's new test numbers to see how much farther.
 
2013-10-25 01:47:43 PM  

BullBearMS: he Surface Pro 2 has a 31 Whatt Hour battery


Yeesh. Preview is your friend.

Surface 2 Pro has a 42 Watt Hour battery.
 
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