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(NPR)   In a cost cutting move, National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration stops printing nautical charts. Carnival Cruise Lines: What are nautical charts?   (npr.org) divider line 9
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2013-10-25 12:58:45 PM
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Charts printed by the Government will no longer be available,

But paper charts will still be available.     You or your vendor will have to print them now is all.   Big deal, Chart vendors will have to buy plotters and print them on demand, instead of having to have an inventory of charts that go stale.    It is a change of business practice, but in the long run, will be more cost effective for them.
2013-10-25 12:43:46 PM
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joness0154: A lack of GPS signal should not prohibit you from using electronic charts and plotting your position manually (for flying, that's pilotage and dead reckoning).


Have you ever sailed a boat before? How about sailing a 30 ft boat in 5 ft breaking waves, exposed for 12-hours in the cockpit to 35 knot winds and rain. I know that you can buy waterproof cases for an iPad, but they don't work very well with saltly air and saltwater. I rely on my chartplotter 95% of the time, but for those 5% of the times when it doesn't work in my area, I fall back to paper charts, strapped to my helm station.

Unlike an airplane, where you're enclosed in a warm cockpit, and land every few hours in a comfy airport - in sailing you'll keep a few days/ week or so away from any dock. Things can and will go wrong, even on a several week trip. Alternators will burn out, inverters short out, battery systems can fail. I guess I could bring a chartplotter, a spare iPad w/ electronic charts, and a spare handheld GPS - then also bring spare solar charging systems, in case my electrical system has an issue.

Or I can simply have a chartplotter & backup paper charts.

/and while it isn't an issue for NOAA waters, when traveling into Canadian waters, they require you to have paper charts of the area you're traveling into.
//currently planning a 3-month, solo sail around Vancouver island next year
2013-10-25 10:52:44 AM
1 votes:

ikanreed: I don't like pointless cost-cutting, but printing charts in the era of GPS and the internet is kind of silly.


Believe it or not, but some of us actually sail to locations to where there isn't cell service, and certain spots actually don't even get GPS reception. That, plus I don't fully trust my Raymarine chartplotter; depending on the firmware upgrade, it will randomly reset.

I spent about $1,000 on charts this year ($600 on electronic versions). The printed charts are updated every year, so it's a good idea to upgrade. It's fairly common to have previously unmarked, submerged rocks added to the charts up here in the Puget Sound/Alaskan Inside Passage.
2013-10-25 10:34:06 AM
1 votes:

mr lawson: Wellon Dowd: Until you lose power and have to navigate with a dead GPS.

or gps falls out of it's bracket after taking a small rogue wave broad side while you are in the middle of Key Biscayne and have to navigate the sandbars back to port using dead reckoning, compass and charts.


If you're in the middle of Key Biscayne on a boat, it's likely on a trailer.
2013-10-25 10:31:03 AM
1 votes:

Wellon Dowd: ikanreed: I don't like pointless cost-cutting, but printing charts in the era of GPS and the internet is kind of silly.

Until you lose power and have to navigate with a dead GPS.


I hope you never find out that most major airline cockpits are now paperless....I'd hate for you to be concerned!
2013-10-25 10:30:05 AM
1 votes:
Please, your boats cannot run without an alternator anyways, pointless objection raisers.
2013-10-25 10:24:47 AM
1 votes:

ikanreed: I don't like pointless cost-cutting, but printing charts in the era of GPS and the internet is kind of silly.


Until a solar flare prevents your ship from communicating with the satellites that provide your internet connection and GPS.
2013-10-25 10:18:51 AM
1 votes:

ikanreed: I don't like pointless cost-cutting, but printing charts in the era of GPS and the internet is kind of silly.


Until you lose power and have to navigate with a dead GPS.
2013-10-25 10:18:15 AM
1 votes:

ikanreed: I don't like pointless cost-cutting, but printing charts in the era of GPS and the internet is kind of silly.


Depending on electronic charts without the paper backup seems like a disaster waiting to happen.
 
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