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2013-10-24 11:49:02 PM  
BitTorrent through an anonymizer. Unbundles everything and it's about $6/month plus internet access.
 
2013-10-25 12:19:10 AM  
I have access to HBO through HBOGo....after seeing what's available...HBO would be a waste to pay extra money for.
 
2013-10-25 01:55:59 AM  
a new offering dubbed "Internet Plus" that consists of internet access, HBO and local TV channels for $40 a month.

that IS a good deal IMO.
 
2013-10-25 01:57:25 AM  
It's worth noting that the Internet Plus pricing is only valid for 12 months, after which the price would go up to $70 per month.

never mind...
 
2013-10-25 02:05:45 AM  
Meh... wake me up when NFL Sunday Ticket is available through YouTube or Amazon.
 
2013-10-25 02:15:28 AM  
As long as there are sports fans, there will be suckers who pay for cable.
 
2013-10-25 02:23:05 AM  

log_jammin: It's worth noting that the Internet Plus pricing is only valid for 12 months, after which the price would go up to $70 per month.

never mind...


But you get a coupon for a free frozen yogurt.
 
2013-10-25 02:26:00 AM  

log_jammin: It's worth noting that the Internet Plus pricing is only valid for 12 months, after which the price would go up to $70 per month.

never mind...


And you can bet that deal will not be offered to existing customers.

F*ck Comcast. If they weren't a monopoly here I'd drop them in a hot second.
 
2013-10-25 02:29:01 AM  
The only things I like on HBO are Veep and The Newsroom. And there are ways of watching those without paying the jacked-up price HBO wants. None of the other premium channels charge like HBO.
 
2013-10-25 02:33:02 AM  

log_jammin: It's worth noting that the Internet Plus pricing is only valid for 12 months, after which the price would go up to $70 per month.

never mind...


That's why you call them at that point and threaten to cancel and they'll give you the next promotion.

I had "Blast Plus" 50/10 for $39/mo for 6 months, called them at the 6 month mark, went round & round with them on speeds, ended coming out with "Blast Plus" 50/10 and unlimited phone service for $39/mo.
 
2013-10-25 02:34:14 AM  
Yeah, Comcast called me a couple of weeks ago and offered, for $5 per month extra, to double our bandwidth (50 megabits now), give us basic cable, and HBO.  I snapped that up.
 
2013-10-25 02:52:44 AM  

fusillade762: F*ck Comcast. If they weren't a monopoly here I'd drop them in a hot second.


...why has no one gone after the cable companies for anti-trust violations yet? There's blatant and long-term collusion going on.
 
2013-10-25 03:00:24 AM  

IlGreven: fusillade762: F*ck Comcast. If they weren't a monopoly here I'd drop them in a hot second.

...why has no one gone after the cable companies for anti-trust violations yet? There's blatant and long-term collusion going on.


because anyone can slap an antenna(or a satellite) to the side of their house and never use a cable company.

someday soon I plan on doing just that. ditching my cable provider and just going with an antenna.
 
2013-10-25 03:03:41 AM  
People are disconnecting their cable in record numbers, cable companies are seeing the future and trying to adapt, they better work faster.
 
2013-10-25 03:14:46 AM  

log_jammin: IlGreven: fusillade762: F*ck Comcast. If they weren't a monopoly here I'd drop them in a hot second.

...why has no one gone after the cable companies for anti-trust violations yet? There's blatant and long-term collusion going on.

because anyone can slap an antenna(or a satellite) to the side of their house and never use a cable company.

someday soon I plan on doing just that. ditching my cable provider and just going with an antenna.


People could've dug their own oil wells and foregone Standard Oil.  Didn't make them any less of a monopoly.

Plus, you can't get HBO with an antenna. And a real satellite dish is prohibitively expensive.
 
2013-10-25 03:24:12 AM  

IlGreven: People could've dug their own oil wells and foregone Standard Oil.  Didn't make them any less of a monopoly.


I didn't say people can make their own tv shows. I said there are other providers they can use.

IlGreven: Plus, you can't get HBO with an antenna.


HBO can provide their service how ever they want. they're under no legal obligation to make sure it's available by antenna. HBO makes it available through cable providers by their choice. not by the choice of the cable companies.

IlGreven: And a real satellite dish is prohibitively expensive.


what do you mean "real" satellite dish?

I have a "real" satellite dish that gets me directv. It's not prohibitively expensive and prices in line with the cable companies prices. I'm just tired of paying for reality shows, infommercials, shopping networks and stations that only play one show for the hours that they're not running infommercials.
 
2013-10-25 04:10:53 AM  

log_jammin: IlGreven: People could've dug their own oil wells and foregone Standard Oil.  Didn't make them any less of a monopoly.

I didn't say people can make their own tv shows. I said there are other providers they can use.

IlGreven: Plus, you can't get HBO with an antenna.

HBO can provide their service how ever they want. they're under no legal obligation to make sure it's available by antenna. HBO makes it available through cable providers by their choice. not by the choice of the cable companies.

IlGreven: And a real satellite dish is prohibitively expensive.

what do you mean "real" satellite dish?

I have a "real" satellite dish that gets me directv. It's not prohibitively expensive and prices in line with the cable companies prices. I'm just tired of paying for reality shows, infommercials, shopping networks and stations that only play one show for the hours that they're not running infommercials.


You forgot the Jesus channels. Those have been blocked in my house, along with FoxNooz.
 
2013-10-25 04:23:50 AM  

ecmoRandomNumbers: You forgot the Jesus channels. Those have been blocked in my house, along with FoxNooz.


I rarely make it that far down the list.
 
2013-10-25 04:34:52 AM  

fusillade762: log_jammin: It's worth noting that the Internet Plus pricing is only valid for 12 months, after which the price would go up to $70 per month.

never mind...

And you can bet that deal will not be offered to existing customers.

F*ck Comcast. If they weren't a monopoly here I'd drop them in a hot second.


"Ohhh there's not another cable company, is there? Oh that's right we're the only one in town."

25.media.tumblr.com
 
2013-10-25 04:35:16 AM  
they make color tvs now?  damn.
 
2013-10-25 05:11:28 AM  
Because we won't go with DishNetwork for TV (just got rid of them, may they rot in hell) in a bundle with our ISP Century Link we pay $20.00 more per month for slower internet service. Yup.

I know, I know. My SO insists we have what we have so she can chat about the few shows she watches the next day at work. aaargh.
 
2013-10-25 05:16:11 AM  

KrispyKritter: Because we won't go with DishNetwork for TV (just got rid of them, may they rot in hell) in a bundle with our ISP Century Link we pay $20.00 more per month for slower internet service. Yup.

I know, I know. My SO insists we have what we have so she can chat about the few shows she watches the next day at work. aaargh.


Century link uses Directv, not dish.

Directv is crappy for the reasons i stated above, but dish is just...evil.
 
2013-10-25 06:00:04 AM  

IlGreven: log_jammin: IlGreven: fusillade762: F*ck Comcast. If they weren't a monopoly here I'd drop them in a hot second.

...why has no one gone after the cable companies for anti-trust violations yet? There's blatant and long-term collusion going on.

because anyone can slap an antenna(or a satellite) to the side of their house and never use a cable company.

someday soon I plan on doing just that. ditching my cable provider and just going with an antenna.

People could've dug their own oil wells and foregone Standard Oil.  Didn't make them any less of a monopoly.

Plus, you can't get HBO with an antenna. And a real satellite dish is prohibitively expensive.


What's a real dish, one for the yard? The only two subscription services left don't have HBO. C-band can get you ponies, though, if you're into that sort of thing.
 
2013-10-25 06:25:30 AM  

log_jammin: what do you mean "real" satellite dish?


I believe he means one capable of receiving K- and C-band transmissions.  Not necessarily one of the old huge 6-foot-wide dishes, but the same technology.  Which, incidentally, can work on a dish as small as a 3 foot diameter.

log_jammin: HBO can provide their service how ever they want. they're under no legal obligation to make sure it's available by antenna. HBO makes it available through cable providers by their choice. not by the choice of the cable companies.


I believe the implication is that HBO doesn't offer HBOGo without a cable subscription because the CableCos have not-quite-but-totally-did threatened to penalize HBO in some way if they tried that, e.g. refusing to pay as much when it's time for renegotiation, cutting them off completely, etc. etc.  This is of course collusion and is illegal, but good luck proving it.
 
2013-10-25 06:45:39 AM  

yukichigai: I believe he means one capable of receiving K- and C-band transmissions.  Not necessarily one of the old huge 6-foot-wide dishes, but the same technology.  Which, incidentally, can work on a dish as small as a 3 foot diameter.


I'm still not sure why he thinks those are the "real" ones and the others are somehow "not real"..

yukichigai: I believe the implication is that HBO doesn't offer HBOGo without a cable subscription because the CableCos have not-quite-but-totally-did threatened to penalize HBO in some way if they tried that, e.g. refusing to pay as much when it's time for renegotiation, cutting them off completely, etc. etc.  This is of course collusion and is illegal, but good luck proving it.


no way.

If When HBO opens up HBOGo, the cable companies are farked and they know it. once HBO does that, all the other premium channels are going to follow with their own little apps, and the cable companies will be left with nothing but the, swiftly declining in quality, basic cable channels. HBO isn't being told what to do. They have the upper hand and they know it.

why do you think they're even offering a plan like this(just internet and HBO) in the first place? they're losing more and more customers to the internet based providers like netflix and HBO is there plugging up the leak in their sinking ship. HBO just hasn't quite figured out that they don't need those guys anymore.

cable is dying.
 
2013-10-25 07:32:06 AM  
evergreenterrace.com.au

I was saying "Comcast"

/Boo-urns
 
2013-10-25 07:34:04 AM  
Dish network customer here, and as soon as HBO lets me pay for just their service we are dumping the dish and going with an HD antenna. We live in the country so we can't get cable or cable internet; a dish or antenna are our only options
 
2013-10-25 07:51:02 AM  

log_jammin: yukichigai: I believe he means one capable of receiving K- and C-band transmissions.  Not necessarily one of the old huge 6-foot-wide dishes, but the same technology.  Which, incidentally, can work on a dish as small as a 3 foot diameter.

I'm still not sure why he thinks those are the "real" ones and the others are somehow "not real"..

yukichigai: I believe the implication is that HBO doesn't offer HBOGo without a cable subscription because the CableCos have not-quite-but-totally-did threatened to penalize HBO in some way if they tried that, e.g. refusing to pay as much when it's time for renegotiation, cutting them off completely, etc. etc.  This is of course collusion and is illegal, but good luck proving it.

no way.

If When HBO opens up HBOGo, the cable companies are farked and they know it. once HBO does that, all the other premium channels are going to follow with their own little apps, and the cable companies will be left with nothing but the, swiftly declining in quality, basic cable channels. HBO isn't being told what to do. They have the upper hand and they know it.

why do you think they're even offering a plan like this(just internet and HBO) in the first place? they're losing more and more customers to the internet based providers like netflix and HBO is there plugging up the leak in their sinking ship. HBO just hasn't quite figured out that they don't need those guys anymore.

cable is dying.


Time warner owns HBO. I'm sure HBO has figured that out. you really think time warner doesn't have a say in all of this?
 
2013-10-25 07:56:28 AM  

DemonEater: Yeah, Comcast called me a couple of weeks ago and offered, for $5 per month extra, to double our bandwidth (50 megabits now), give us basic cable, and HBO.  I snapped that up.


Otherwise known as the hotel package

log_jammin: yukichigai: I believe he means one capable of receiving K- and C-band transmissions.  Not necessarily one of the old huge 6-foot-wide dishes, but the same technology.  Which, incidentally, can work on a dish as small as a 3 foot diameter.

I'm still not sure why he thinks those are the "real" ones and the others are somehow "not real"..

yukichigai: I believe the implication is that HBO doesn't offer HBOGo without a cable subscription because the CableCos have not-quite-but-totally-did threatened to penalize HBO in some way if they tried that, e.g. refusing to pay as much when it's time for renegotiation, cutting them off completely, etc. etc.  This is of course collusion and is illegal, but good luck proving it.

no way.

If When HBO opens up HBOGo, the cable companies are farked and they know it. once HBO does that, all the other premium channels are going to follow with their own little apps, and the cable companies will be left with nothing but the, swiftly declining in quality, basic cable channels. HBO isn't being told what to do. They have the upper hand and they know it.

why do you think they're even offering a plan like this(just internet and HBO) in the first place? they're losing more and more customers to the internet based providers like netflix and HBO is there plugging up the leak in their sinking ship. HBO just hasn't quite figured out that they don't need those guys anymore.

cable is dying.


Cable subscriptions may shrink if the "I only want 2 channels and nothing else" crowd gets their way, but it is not going away unless TV completely moves away from broadcast times. Channel surfers are not going to spin up a separate app every time they switch to a different network.

Say you are right and every channels devolves into individual access via app. Eventually someone will write a blockbuster paid app/service that bundles access to the most popular apps into a single interface, perhaps with a "guide" you can scroll through to easily pick what channel/show you want to watch. Maybe they will call the app "Cable"

People are cheap, but more importantly, people are lazy and want convenience.
 
2013-10-25 08:01:29 AM  

log_jammin: a new offering dubbed "Internet Plus" that consists of internet access, HBO and local TV channels for $40 a month.

that IS a good deal IMO.


Agreed, right now I'm paying that for just a 25/2 cable based internet subscription.  While I'd prefer to see HBO leg in on Netflix for a premium instead, but this deal would be mighty tempting for me if I lived in the states.
 
2013-10-25 08:25:47 AM  

log_jammin: IlGreven: fusillade762: F*ck Comcast. If they weren't a monopoly here I'd drop them in a hot second.

...why has no one gone after the cable companies for anti-trust violations yet? There's blatant and long-term collusion going on.

because anyone can slap an antenna(or a satellite) to the side of their house and never use a cable company.

someday soon I plan on doing just that. ditching my cable provider and just going with an antenna.


There was only one reason I upgraded for the digital cable services for a few months, and that was to watch Breaking Bad when it aired live.  The only other reason I could justify it was to watch college football.

But, my parents who are retired, pay for a full cable TV package since they are always home, so I use their Comcast login for Watch ESPN and Xfinity to see movies.

The problem with HBOGo is other than the shows, the movie lists really suck, and rarely change.  But like I said, at least they put up every episode of a series.

For sports, I'd love for the NFL to finally come up with an online stream package, like the NBA and MLB.  We all know about the local blackout restrictions (once again trying to force you to purchase paid cable service)...but in a previous thread, a farker mentioned SafeIP, and just picking an IP that's outside of local blackout restrictions.  I plan to do that with the NBA this year to see Rockets games on my PC in HD.

Lastly the only problem with going full non-cable TV is that Comcast strong arms you with the price.  If you have cable TV, they drop the monthly rate of blast to $49, but it's $65 if you just want internet.  They always bring up "Well it's only $XX more a month for cable TV, but they don't include the HD fee $10 and the tv surcharges.  Right now my bill for just internet is $75 with taxes, and that's because I don't lease the modem, I own my own, which saves $7 monthly.  When I had digital cable the bill was $130 with taxes.  How that's only an extra $20 month, I don't know what calculator they are using.

I do wish there was another option for broadband internet in Houston. I cross my fingers that Google Fiber makes it way here next.
 
2013-10-25 08:49:16 AM  

FinFangFark: The problem with HBOGo is other than the shows, the movie lists really suck, and rarely change. But like I said, at least they put up every episode of a series.

For sports, I'd love for the NFL to finally come up with an online stream package, like the NBA and MLB. We all know about the local blackout restrictions (once again trying to force you to purchase paid cable service)...but in a previous thread, a farker mentioned SafeIP, and just picking an IP that's outside of local blackout restrictions. I plan to do that with the NBA this year to see Rockets games on my PC in HD.

Lastly the only problem with going full non-cable TV is that Comcast strong arms you with the price. If you have cable TV, they drop the monthly rate of blast to $49, but it's $65 if you just want internet. They always bring up "Well it's only $XX more a month for cable TV, but they don't include the HD fee $10 and the tv surcharges. Right now my bill for just internet is $75 with taxes, and that's because I don't lease the modem, I own my own, which saves $7 monthly. When I had digital cable the bill was $130 with taxes. How that's only an extra $20 month, I don't know what calculator they are using.


1. I think the ratio of good to bad movies is the same on HBO GO as Netflix and Amazon, the latter two just have more movies. HBO GO's strength is clearly with its TV shows -- both new episodes and the back catalog. If it were sold on its own and priced the same as Netflx and Amazon it would an even better value.

2. The nice thing about the NFL is that most of the games are one broadcast TV, so you can get them over the air in HD (and arguably better picture quality than cable because of less compression). I watch most of the NFL season this way using $10 rabbit ears. And it's going to be a very long time before the NFL streams because the league is able to sell the broadcast rights for so much money -- the networks wouldn't pay so much if there were other ways to watch the games.

3. Some cable companies have almost hidden internet only options. In NYC I have internet only through Time Warner that's $35/month; download speeds are about 10 mbps. When ordering it they kept making it sound like that wouldn't be enough to stream movies -- only good enough for surfing the internet, and kept pushing a 20 mbps package at $50. I suspect many people don't know better and fall for that.
 
2013-10-25 08:50:28 AM  

abiigdog: People are disconnecting their cable in record numbers, cable companies are seeing the future and trying to adapt, they better work faster.


Sadly, no. Only about 1% of homes have ditched pay TV, and that number doesn't really change. Basically, when the economy is bad, people downsize on cable. As soon as it picks back up, they buy it again.
 
2013-10-25 08:51:21 AM  

DemonEater: Yeah, Comcast called me a couple of weeks ago and offered, for $5 per month extra, to double our bandwidth (50 megabits now), give us basic cable, and HBO.  I snapped that up.


That 5 bucks is likely to become 20 by the time it arrives on the bill.
 
2013-10-25 08:53:14 AM  

SirVagTheTighty: Time warner owns HBO. I'm sure HBO has figured that out. you really think time warner doesn't have a say in all of this?


They don't. Time Warner Cable is a completely separate company from Time Warner. It was spun off in 2009, is completely independent, and publicly traded.
 
2013-10-25 09:02:55 AM  

yukichigai: log_jammin: HBO can provide their service how ever they want. they're under no legal obligation to make sure it's available by antenna. HBO makes it available through cable providers by their choice. not by the choice of the cable companies.

I believe the implication is that HBO doesn't offer HBOGo without a cable subscription because the CableCos have not-quite-but-totally-did threatened to penalize HBO in some way if they tried that, e.g. refusing to pay as much when it's time for renegotiation, cutting them off completely, etc. etc. This is of course collusion and is illegal, but good luck proving it.


I don't think that's it.

At this point more people pay for Netflix than HBO, so clearly there is a huge market out there to sell HBO GO.

I think the hold up is that HBO makes more per customer from cable subscription fees than they would if they charged a rate similar to Netflix and Amazon for HBO GO (and not to mention that cable companies pay HBO for the privilege of having HBO in their lineup). And they'd have to make a huge investment infrastructure to handle the huge spike in bandwidth (they currently don't have enough -- on Sunday nights things can come to a crawl).

So at this point, the status quo is more profitable.

I suspect now that Netflix has more subscribers than HBO, HBO is going to speed up their plans to start selling HBO GO.
 
2013-10-25 09:16:36 AM  

fusillade762: log_jammin: It's worth noting that the Internet Plus pricing is only valid for 12 months, after which the price would go up to $70 per month.

never mind...

And you can bet that deal will not be offered to existing customers.

F*ck Comcast. If they weren't a monopoly here I'd drop them in a hot second.


Sometimes the competition isn't better.  We finally got FiOS in my part of town (about 6-8 months ago) and compared prices and Comcast still came out better.  With Verizon we would have to pay double for equipment "rental" and get fewer channels for more money.
 
2013-10-25 09:27:15 AM  

Harry_Seldon: log_jammin: It's worth noting that the Internet Plus pricing is only valid for 12 months, after which the price would go up to $70 per month.

never mind...

But you get a coupon for a free frozen yogurt.


The free frogurt comes with Chelsea Handler starring in a SyFy Original Movie.
 
2013-10-25 09:33:26 AM  
From what I recall of my HBO subscription days...they'd get a new movie and then play the fark out of it for a month.  They still doing that?  Waste of money.

I've dropped cable completely.  In fact, our TV viewing has dropped to less than a couple hrs per month.
 
2013-10-25 09:34:29 AM  
 
2013-10-25 09:37:38 AM  

GardenWeasel: Eventually someone will write a blockbuster paid app/service that bundles access to the most popular apps into a single interface


and put it on say...an XBOX, a Playstation or a Steam Machine?
 
2013-10-25 09:40:18 AM  

GardenWeasel: Maybe they will call the app "Cable"


cable isn't a voluntary app.
 
2013-10-25 09:42:01 AM  

log_jammin: GardenWeasel: Maybe they will call the app "Cable"

cable isn't a voluntary app.


Hey as long as it doesn't take 8am-6pm to install, I don't care what they call it.
 
2013-10-25 09:52:45 AM  

Buggar: From what I recall of my HBO subscription days...they'd get a new movie and then play the fark out of it for a month.  They still doing that?


Yep. I do get why they show brand new movies a lot, I do not get why From Dusk Till Dawn still seems to get played every other day.

It's like the "variety" radio station we have in town, they technically play a variety of songs but with multiple genres and 40 years of music they select from why am I still hearing the same 20 songs every day? What causes them to decide a hit song from 25 years ago needs heavy rotation when they could simply pick a hundred different hit songs from 25 years ago?
 
2013-10-25 09:54:13 AM  

IlGreven: fusillade762: F*ck Comcast. If they weren't a monopoly here I'd drop them in a hot second.

...why has no one gone after the cable companies for anti-trust violations yet? There's blatant and long-term collusion going on.


In many municipalities, the cable companies are treated as utilities and can enter into exclusive contracts with the city/county for certain regions. For example, our house in Knox County was in a neighborhood that had access to FiOs, Comcast, Knology, and Charter, but our street happened to jut into a separate zone which was the sole province of Charter's, so that's the cable we had. This isn't unusual, either. I saw the same thing happen in Ann Arbor, Seattle, and the Chicago metro as well.

Government-sanctioned monopolies are so much fun.
 
2013-10-25 09:59:05 AM  

ecmoRandomNumbers: log_jammin: IlGreven: People could've dug their own oil wells and foregone Standard Oil.  Didn't make them any less of a monopoly.

I didn't say people can make their own tv shows. I said there are other providers they can use.

IlGreven: Plus, you can't get HBO with an antenna.

HBO can provide their service how ever they want. they're under no legal obligation to make sure it's available by antenna. HBO makes it available through cable providers by their choice. not by the choice of the cable companies.

IlGreven: And a real satellite dish is prohibitively expensive.

what do you mean "real" satellite dish?

I have a "real" satellite dish that gets me directv. It's not prohibitively expensive and prices in line with the cable companies prices. I'm just tired of paying for reality shows, infommercials, shopping networks and stations that only play one show for the hours that they're not running infommercials.

You forgot the Jesus channels. Those have been blocked in my house, along with FoxNooz.


I keep Fox around just waiting for the epic Shep Smith meltdown when the last True Blood airs.
 
2013-10-25 10:18:54 AM  

log_jammin: It's worth noting that the Internet Plus pricing is only valid for 12 months, after which the price would go up to $70 per month.

never mind...


It's still not bad when the factor in that the minimum price for that level of internet service (after a 6-month introductory price) is $42.95/mo.

So, basically, you get their internet service and for 6 months it costs $10/mo for HBO and locals, for the next 6 months you save $3/mo, and after that it costs $27/mo.  Not terrible.
 
2013-10-25 10:19:59 AM  
Comcast/XFinity is hard to beat for cable TV and as an ISP, as long as they're in a competitive market.  They used to have a monopoly in my area, and after some other players sat down at the table, quality and value of service made a quantum leap.
 
2013-10-25 10:31:50 AM  

log_jammin: yukichigai: I believe he means one capable of receiving K- and C-band transmissions.  Not necessarily one of the old huge 6-foot-wide dishes, but the same technology.  Which, incidentally, can work on a dish as small as a 3 foot diameter.

I'm still not sure why he thinks those are the "real" ones and the others are somehow "not real"..

yukichigai: I believe the implication is that HBO doesn't offer HBOGo without a cable subscription because the CableCos have not-quite-but-totally-did threatened to penalize HBO in some way if they tried that, e.g. refusing to pay as much when it's time for renegotiation, cutting them off completely, etc. etc.  This is of course collusion and is illegal, but good luck proving it.

no way.

If When HBO opens up HBOGo, the cable companies are farked and they know it. once HBO does that, all the other premium channels are going to follow with their own little apps, and the cable companies will be left with nothing but the, swiftly declining in quality, basic cable channels. HBO isn't being told what to do. They have the upper hand and they know it.

why do you think they're even offering a plan like this(just internet and HBO) in the first place? they're losing more and more customers to the internet based providers like netflix and HBO is there plugging up the leak in their sinking ship. HBO just hasn't quite figured out that they don't need those guys anymore.

cable is dying.


It's not dying, it's evolving.  Comcast adding Netflix to its X1 platform is a sign of this...
 
2013-10-25 10:41:36 AM  

log_jammin: Directv is crappy for the reasons i stated above, but dish is just...evil


At least DirecTV's customer assistance actually assists you.  Any time we've had a problem we have 1) waited very little if any time at all on the phone, and 2) if we needed someone to come out they didn't give you a huge spread of time and just showed up (maybe) as the cable companies I've had in the past did, the guy actually called to update us on an approximate time that day and called again when he was being delayed at the call he was at before.
 
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