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2013-10-24 07:50:45 PM
I admit listening to the radio but only NPR and the classical station.
 
2013-10-24 07:57:25 PM
I'm really liking the Aha service in my new Scion.
 
2013-10-24 07:59:47 PM
Yeah, but without the commercials I'd have no idea which lawyer to call if I get lymphoma.
 
2013-10-24 08:04:45 PM
I don't listen to my local stations, but I listen to real over-the-air stations over the internet (just not my area).  I like knowing that lots of other people are listening to the same thing, not "just for me."  I like the jocks and local news/traffic/weather etc.

/KOMP-Vegas if you want to know.
 
2013-10-24 08:17:58 PM
Good for them, that's why I love my Sirius.

/NFL channel, baby!
//and the college football channel 91!
 
2013-10-24 08:51:36 PM
Pfft. I dont need any stupid radio stations. I bring my music with me.

img.fark.net
 
2013-10-24 08:57:08 PM

ElLoco: Pfft. I dont need any stupid radio stations. I bring my music with me.

[img.fark.net image 850x637]


mmmm, Charley Pride.
 
2013-10-24 09:49:20 PM
Who buys radio spots anymore?
 
2013-10-24 09:57:07 PM

doglover: Who buys radio spots anymore?


In LA, spanish business. In fact, the LA rating system had to be broken down into two list, because the LA spanish Launguage would actually blow any english speaking station off the list.
 
2013-10-24 10:07:20 PM
Last.fm FTW
 
2013-10-24 10:09:39 PM
Sirius/XM subby.
 
2013-10-24 10:53:49 PM

doglover: Who buys radio spots anymore?


www.skullbunnie.com
 
2013-10-24 11:09:08 PM

Darth_Lukecash: doglover: Who buys radio spots anymore?

In LA, spanish business. In fact, the LA rating system had to be broken down into two list, because the LA spanish Launguage would actually blow any english speaking station off the list.


I mean in the world where a large percentage of the population hasn't turned on a radio since Apple released their first 'pod.

I mean really, I'm 30 and I haven't turned on the radio in almost 15 years. Assuming moderate parental income levels, there's kids today who might never have used one.

Sure, for older Spanish speakers in LA you can get El Dependable pantalones para caca spots, but aside from that?
 
2013-10-25 12:58:28 AM
My car is in for some work and the loaner car the dealer gave me doesn't have satellite radio.

I got in the car at 5:22 and turned on the local top-ranked FM station to hear the end of LMFAO's "Sexy and I Know It" and so began a "Wacky DJ Patter"/commercial/Traffic-and-Weather-Together/commercial/News/DJ & Reporter Patter/commercial block that went until almost 5:40 when my patience was rewarded with Katy Perry's "Roar."

Let. It. Die.
 
2013-10-25 01:49:58 AM
I get my news from the internet, and for some reason I lost all interest in music several years ago. I haven't turned on my car stereo in years, except to plug my phone into it to listen to pod casts.
 
2013-10-25 04:43:48 AM
WFMU commercial free volunteer run listener supported radio has an incredibly diversified array of personalities/shows. i was going on over 10 years radio free when I was turned on to them. they brought the joy back.

http://www.wfmu.org/
 
2013-10-25 04:44:12 AM

ElLoco: Pfft. I dont need any stupid radio stations. I bring my music with me.

[img.fark.net image 850x637]


At first I was like pfft! He won't have no Red Sovine in there.

Then I saw it.

/You sir, are a great American
//News radio 780 WBBM in case anyone's interested
 
2013-10-25 04:45:08 AM
What does "broadcast radio" mean?
 
2013-10-25 04:48:45 AM
I listen in the car. Frequently the HD2 and HD3 stations are commercial free, or at least have far fewer commercials than the main station. Also, NPR.
 
2013-10-25 04:49:32 AM
Broadcast radio means WiFi connection to your .mp3 server.
 
2013-10-25 04:56:48 AM
I greatly enjoy my local radio. The audio quality exceeds that of RealAudio-esque streams, the personalities talk about and hold local events, local news and issues get air time...

Streaming services are teetering on the edge of bankruptcy, and this little window of no commercials is just to build a user base.

After he cashed out, the founder of Pandora admitted that, with scheduled rises in payouts to artists, he saw no way the business model could survive.

Sat radio just sounds awful for anything more than talk...if I want to hear very low quality music, I'll just sing...
 
2013-10-25 04:57:54 AM
I also recently figured out what that weird slot in the radio was for...

owap.so

/Been bugging me forever!
//Still can't figure out how to actually get it to play the songs on my phone
 
2013-10-25 04:58:01 AM
http://vocalo.org 

This is the only radio station I listen to for music, anything else is NPR and nutcases calling in to C-SPAN when I need to have a laugh/cry about our society.
 
2013-10-25 04:59:29 AM
I don't understand how radio hasn't collapsed yet. Everyone and their mother has a smartphone or iPod.

On my 30 minute drive to work, I can either listen to 8-10 songs from my phone, listen to NPR news for 30 minutes, or listen to the radio and hear 15 minutes of rambling about weird crap pulled from sites like Fark, yahoo or Reddit, 10 minutes of commericals and two songs.

Newspapers at least offer a product that is slightly better than online news, but radio really has nothing going for it.
 
2013-10-25 05:06:14 AM
The other problem is that American radio hasn't evolved. I listen to BBC radio they have children's stories, radio plays, documentaries and celebrity chat shows. Apple hasn't allowed an app for an Ipod touch to actually receive a broadcast signal. I worked at a news radio station that needed new equipment and new talent with fresh ideas. I pitched to them radio documentaries I could have produced on my computer but they can't afford it.
 
2013-10-25 05:13:28 AM

alice_600: The other problem is that American radio hasn't evolved. I listen to BBC radio they have children's stories, radio plays, documentaries and celebrity chat shows. Apple hasn't allowed an app for an Ipod touch to actually receive a broadcast signal. I worked at a news radio station that needed new equipment and new talent with fresh ideas. I pitched to them radio documentaries I could have produced on my computer but they can't afford it.


I never understood that either. we steal british tv shows all the time, and they steal our shows right back.not that long ago any good science/nature show was made by the BBC and Discovery.

yet we ignore their radio completely.
 
2013-10-25 05:17:30 AM

ElLoco: Pfft. I dont need any stupid radio stations. I bring my music with me.

[img.fark.net image 850x637]


I miss 8-tracks

//I don't mind kids on my lawn. Kids should play.
 
2013-10-25 05:18:40 AM

Sasquach: I greatly enjoy my local radio. The audio quality exceeds that of RealAudio-esque streams, the personalities talk about and hold local events, local news and issues get air time...

Streaming services are teetering on the edge of bankruptcy, and this little window of no commercials is just to build a user base.

After he cashed out, the founder of Pandora admitted that, with scheduled rises in payouts to artists, he saw no way the business model could survive.

Sat radio just sounds awful for anything more than talk...if I want to hear very low quality music, I'll just sing...


Spotify is 320 kbps. iTunes Radio is 256 kbps, the same quality as the files on their iTunes store.

So, I'm not really sure you know what you're going on about.

People who listen to the radio don't like music. They've gotten in their own car and allowed some stranger miles away to pick their music. Usually it's top 40 or some "alternative" station that plays Foo Fighters and Avenged Sevenfold.

You can't listen to Avenged Sevenfold and actually like music. Trust me, I mathed it out.
 
2013-10-25 05:30:31 AM
alice_600:
The other problem is that American radio hasn't evolved. I listen to BBC radio they have children's stories, radio plays, documentaries and celebrity chat shows. Apple hasn't allowed an app for an Ipod touch to actually receive a broadcast signal. I worked at a news radio station that needed new equipment and new talent with fresh ideas. I pitched to them radio documentaries I could have produced on my computer but they can't afford it.

This is why, despie being raised by parents who listened to CBC all day... I listen to CBC all day.  It has some silly crap (CBC comedy shows are notoriously bad) and some overly artsy crap*, but there's a lot of genuine quality programming and in-depth news analysis.  And NO commercials.  It uses tax money, but without a national broadcaster all radio would devolve to replaying the same six songs in between the same twenty commercials and stupid DJ's making sexist jokes and prank-calling people.

* which of course others may see as genuine quality programming
 
2013-10-25 05:30:37 AM
i am pretty much forced to listen to the radio at my job and it kills me.  i can't stand it.  we have a choice between a class rock station, a slightly worse classic rock station, a classic rock station that also plays some new songs by old bands, an "oldies" station that plays classic rock, and an 80s pop station.  that's it.  those are our options for the radio.  almost everyone on my shift is under the age of 30 so the majority of the songs they play were from before any of us were even born.  sometimes listening to it makes me want to kill myself.  it's pink floyd, rolling stones, tom petty, commercial break, led zeppelin, the eagles, pink floyd, commercial break, rolling stones, motley crue, steve miller, commercial break, bruce springsteen, the eagles, tom petty ...

ethernet76: People who listen to the radio don't like music.


i absolutely agree.  radio is for people who don't actually enjoy music, but they want to hear something familiar in the background while they drive.  they also love to hear commercials.
 
2013-10-25 05:33:00 AM

log_jammin: alice_600: The other problem is that American radio hasn't evolved. I listen to BBC radio they have children's stories, radio plays, documentaries and celebrity chat shows. Apple hasn't allowed an app for an Ipod touch to actually receive a broadcast signal. I worked at a news radio station that needed new equipment and new talent with fresh ideas. I pitched to them radio documentaries I could have produced on my computer but they can't afford it.

I never understood that either. we steal british tv shows all the time, and they steal our shows right back.not that long ago any good science/nature show was made by the BBC and Discovery.

yet we ignore their radio completely.


They said they didn't have the money! You got people online doing stuff like "Welcome to Night Vale." Who are doing it from their parent's flipin' basement! This station had loads of equipment that could be auctioned off and classic old records you could sell on E-bay for a good load of cash to collectors.
They could cut down on health costs by replacing the nasty frayed floral fake plants with real plants. That filters the air and gives oxygen so and cuts down on dust.
This place had no podcasts of popular shows, a web sight that was designed by monkey from 2002. Yeah I see why radio's dying it's because the people who run it are so dumb they can't see the money leaving out the door!
 
2013-10-25 05:37:10 AM
what's this? Internet radio? Why would anyone want to do that?

www.arsenalamerica.com
 
2013-10-25 05:37:26 AM

No Such Agency: alice_600:
The other problem is that American radio hasn't evolved. I listen to BBC radio they have children's stories, radio plays, documentaries and celebrity chat shows. Apple hasn't allowed an app for an Ipod touch to actually receive a broadcast signal. I worked at a news radio station that needed new equipment and new talent with fresh ideas. I pitched to them radio documentaries I could have produced on my computer but they can't afford it.

This is why, despie being raised by parents who listened to CBC all day... I listen to CBC all day.  It has some silly crap (CBC comedy shows are notoriously bad) and some overly artsy crap*, but there's a lot of genuine quality programming and in-depth news analysis.  And NO commercials.  It uses tax money, but without a national broadcaster all radio would devolve to replaying the same six songs in between the same twenty commercials and stupid DJ's making sexist jokes and prank-calling people.

* which of course others may see as genuine quality programming


There used to be good DJs who didn't have to go to such extremes to entertain people but they got pushed away because people wanted the shock jock.
 
2013-10-25 05:37:37 AM

alice_600: They said they didn't have the money! You got people online doing stuff like "Welcome to Night Vale." Who are doing it from their parent's flipin' basement! This station had loads of equipment that could be auctioned off and classic old records you could sell on E-bay for a good load of cash to collectors.
They could cut down on health costs by replacing the nasty frayed floral fake plants with real plants. That filters the air and gives oxygen so and cuts down on dust.
This place had no podcasts of popular shows, a web sight that was designed by monkey from 2002. Yeah I see why radio's dying it's because the people who run it are so dumb they can't see the money leaving out the door!


I think it was on the nerdist podcast where someone mentioned a group of broadcasters were scoffing at podcasters for not knowing what the were doing. the reason? podcasters don't "reset"(may be the wrong word) by reminding listeners what time it was and who they were listening to.
 
2013-10-25 05:37:44 AM

ethernet76: Sasquach: I greatly enjoy my local radio. The audio quality exceeds that of RealAudio-esque streams, the personalities talk about and hold local events, local news and issues get air time...

Streaming services are teetering on the edge of bankruptcy, and this little window of no commercials is just to build a user base.

After he cashed out, the founder of Pandora admitted that, with scheduled rises in payouts to artists, he saw no way the business model could survive.

Sat radio just sounds awful for anything more than talk...if I want to hear very low quality music, I'll just sing...

Spotify is 320 kbps. iTunes Radio is 256 kbps, the same quality as the files on their iTunes store.

So, I'm not really sure you know what you're going on about.

People who listen to the radio don't like music. They've gotten in their own car and allowed some stranger miles away to pick their music. Usually it's top 40 or some "alternative" station that plays Foo Fighters and Avenged Sevenfold.

You can't listen to Avenged Sevenfold and actually like music. Trust me, I mathed it out.


I really really wanted to like Avenged Sevenfold, but they just sound like a high school garage band. It's like they'd be awesome if they were actually good musicians, but they aren't. They should just give their library to a good metal band and retire.

Recently the local rock station had a poll to see if they should keep playing Nickelback. And all I could think was "why is this even a question?" It's not a country station, it's a rock station. Granted 'rock' is now a very inclusive word that has no meaning these days, but we gotta have some standards. And ultimately I have not heard Nickelback for such a period of time that I had almost forgotten their blight.
 
2013-10-25 05:44:23 AM
only c-span because im a really boring person, but hey no commercials
 
2013-10-25 05:50:15 AM

diaphoresis: what's this? Internet radio? Why would anyone want to do that?


sklampert.files.wordpress.com
 
2013-10-25 05:52:03 AM
yeah, just kidding, some are filling up 50% of their hours with commercials

So it's like watching the NFL.
 
2013-10-25 05:53:09 AM

alice_600: The other problem is that American radio hasn't evolved. I listen to BBC radio they have children's stories, radio plays, documentaries and celebrity chat shows. Apple hasn't allowed an app for an Ipod touch to actually receive a broadcast signal. I worked at a news radio station that needed new equipment and new talent with fresh ideas. I pitched to them radio documentaries I could have produced on my computer but they can't afford it.


Does BBC radio have 28 minutes of commercials per hour?
Is it greed?  Is radio somewhat expensive to operate?
Podcasts offer everything you mentioned and the good ones don't have many commercials.  They seem to do just fine.
 
2013-10-25 05:53:37 AM

Cajnik: diaphoresis: what's this? Internet radio? Why would anyone want to do that?

[sklampert.files.wordpress.com image 850x850]


niiiiiice......

/get off my lawn hippie
 
2013-10-25 05:56:56 AM

MayoSlather: Yeah, but without the commercials I'd have no idea which lawyer to call if I get lymphoma.


www.pocketfullofliberty.com
 
2013-10-25 06:00:53 AM
Having worked in radio for six of the last ten years, I can tell you NSA is spot-on. Plus, the station manager is now also responsible for the website, a voice tracked air shift, selling ads and attending promotional events. I don't think you can just be a DJ anymore and expect any kind of career. My last gig I was on air 4 hours a day, five days a week, produced commercials and station I.D., sweepers, and had to maintain my own sponsor accounts; would have been no problem except for the 2nd job I had to take to afford $800/mo rent + living expenses.


/Sh*tty pay, no respect from your bosses, and very little chance of 'celebrity' unless you're in NY or LA...
// I still miss it
 
2013-10-25 06:01:20 AM

log_jammin: I think it was on the nerdist podcast where someone mentioned a group of broadcasters were scoffing at podcasters for not knowing what the were doing. the reason? podcasters don't "reset"(may be the wrong word) by reminding listeners what time it was and who they were listening to.


Isn't that a bit like saying Hollywood movies have no idea what they're doing because they don't have a notification every 15 minutes telling the audience the name of the movie they're watching and how long the movie has been running for?

I'm pretty sure most people listening to a podcast don't do so accidentally with no idea what they're listening to.
 
2013-10-25 06:07:09 AM

yukichigai: I'm pretty sure most people listening to a podcast don't do so accidentally with no idea what they're listening to.


thatsthejoke.jpg
 
2013-10-25 06:07:18 AM
Yep, newspapers, radio stations, tv channels are all obsolete. Well, there were 10 years ago, now they're all bankrupt and have no followers still. Of course, yeah, it's all over for them. They all died. They're not just sleeping. They are ex-media.

I have a hunch this article might be a repeat.
 
2013-10-25 06:11:14 AM

Gobobo: Yep, newspapers, radio stations, tv channels are all obsolete. Well, there were 10 years ago, now they're all bankrupt and have no followers still. Of course, yeah, it's all over for them. They all died. They're not just sleeping. They are ex-media.

I have a hunch this article might be a repeat.


i131.photobucket.com
 
2013-10-25 06:14:31 AM
I stopped listening to the radio seven years ago when I bought my first ipod. I couldn't even tell what station my radio is set to right now.
 
2013-10-25 06:34:39 AM
The classic rock station plays too much butt rock bands like Foreigner, the hip hop stations seems to only play poppy and soft RNB rap, the alternative rock stations plays a bunch of limp wristed folk rock hipster crap, funny talk radio doesn't really exist anymore, and the college radio station has horrible quality. Radio is dead, which sucks because I used to love it at some point.
 
2013-10-25 06:38:59 AM

TheJoe03: The classic rock station plays too much butt rock bands like Foreigner, the hip hop stations seems to only play poppy and soft RNB rap, the alternative rock stations plays a bunch of limp wristed folk rock hipster crap, funny talk radio doesn't really exist anymore, and the college radio station has horrible quality. Radio is dead, which sucks because I used to love it at some point.


MY CORE IS SO HARD THAT IT SPAN ALL GENRES, FEEL MY HARD THROBBING CORE!!!
 
2013-10-25 06:40:58 AM

Brainsick: Having worked in radio for six of the last ten years, I can tell you NSA is spot-on. Plus, the station manager is now also responsible for the website, a voice tracked air shift, selling ads and attending promotional events. I don't think you can just be a DJ anymore and expect any kind of career. My last gig I was on air 4 hours a day, five days a week, produced commercials and station I.D., sweepers, and had to maintain my own sponsor accounts; would have been no problem except for the 2nd job I had to take to afford $800/mo rent + living expenses.


/Sh*tty pay, no respect from your bosses, and very little chance of 'celebrity' unless you're in NY or LA...
// I still miss it


This is why 35 years ago I joined the USAF instead of continuing on to be a DJ - it's a very glamorous way to starve.
 
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