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(IGN)   Infinity Ward says Call of Duty fan boys are not actually gamers: "It's kind of a weird, ironic thing to say; They aren't hardcore gamers, or even gamers, but they play Call of Duty every night"   (ign.com) divider line 114
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2013-10-24 06:07:27 PM  
I play video games pretty endlessly, but the Call of Duty games do nothing for me. I guess everyone has their niche. They don't suck exactly, but they're just not much to make me want to keep playing.
 
2013-10-24 06:13:07 PM  
Oh boy.  This thread dun gon suckkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk.
 
2013-10-24 06:33:34 PM  
This upsets me because I care deeply who thinks of me as hardcore.
 
2013-10-24 06:41:02 PM  
Hipster gamers...
 
2013-10-24 06:45:30 PM  
I can see that.  There have been times I played a certain game every night until I finished, because I was really into the story... but I don't consider myself a "gamer".
 
2013-10-24 06:58:48 PM  
Do they play a game?

They are gamers.

Christ on a cracker....


Also,  You all just lost the game.
 
2013-10-24 07:04:06 PM  
Infinity Ward says World of Warcraft fan boys are not actually gamers: "It's kind of a weird, ironic thing to say; They aren't hardcore gamers, or even gamers, but they play World of Warcraft every night"
 
2013-10-24 07:05:49 PM  
We've now reached the point that semiotics has reached video games with lots of guns and things that go boom.

/turn out the lights
 
2013-10-24 07:06:19 PM  
I bought an xbox360 for the sole purpose of buying one game, Black Ops 2. I totally suck at it despite playing almost daily. I have never once played the campaign mode, so I'm getting a kick out of this
 
2013-10-24 07:07:00 PM  
A gamer is anyone who plays games.

Doesn't matter if it's Call of Duty or World of Warcraft or Civilization or Madden or Final Fantasy or Professor Layton or Farmville.
 
2013-10-24 07:09:33 PM  

Doc Daneeka: A gamer is anyone who plays games.

Doesn't matter if it's Call of Duty or World of Warcraft or Civilization or Madden or Final Fantasy or Professor Layton or Farmville.


You don't understand geek tribalism. Your goal is to be on as exclusive as possible so you stand out more as special. Which is why you insult and isolate people who don't fit your absurd standards.
 
2013-10-24 07:11:49 PM  
I miss COD. Sometimes I'll yell SH*TBUTT MOTHERF*CKER at myself, but it's just not the same as hearing it through the headphones.
 
2013-10-24 07:13:16 PM  
WizardofToast:

You don't understand geek tribalism. Your goal is to be on as exclusive as possible so you stand out more as special. Which is why you insult and isolate people who don't fit your absurd standards.

Fixed.
 
2013-10-24 07:13:50 PM  

Doc Daneeka: A gamer is anyone who plays games.

Doesn't matter if it's Call of Duty or World of Warcraft or Civilization or Madden or Final Fantasy or Professor Layton or Farmville.


I think of a "gamer" as someone who plays games regularly, not just every once in a while when something strikes them.  <shrug>
 
2013-10-24 07:14:17 PM  

Doc Daneeka: A gamer is anyone who plays games.


They even call slot machine junkies "gamers"
 
2013-10-24 07:14:24 PM  
Eh, I could see what he's driving at here.  If a guy goes to the midnight showing of Rocky Horror every Saturday night, but shows zero interest in any other movies, is he a film buff?  Or just a Rocky Horror fan?
 
2013-10-24 07:20:56 PM  
My son plays COD all the time as a social activity, he gets on line with his friends and they all talk smack to each other, I think the game is mostly a place to goof around in and no an end in itself.  Almost any game could work as well, and they do play minecraft in the same way.
 
2013-10-24 07:21:35 PM  

Confabulat: I play video games pretty endlessly, but the Call of Duty games do nothing for me. I guess everyone has their niche. They don't suck exactly, but they're just not much to make me want to keep playing.


I enjoy them for about a week before I learn every corner of the map and it isn't fun anymore.

I much prefer Battlefield
 
2013-10-24 07:22:06 PM  

edmo: Hipster gamers...


"Pfft, computers.  If it doesn't have dice, it's too mainstream."
"Pfft, D&D?  That's so mainstream.  I play White Wolf."
"Pfft, you play commercial games?  I play a system written by this guy from Brooklyn.  You've probably never heard of it."
"Pfft, you play someone else's game?  I run a system I came up with myself for my friends."
"Pfft, you have friends?"

/I hated things for being cool before it was cool
 
2013-10-24 07:26:50 PM  

meat0918: Also, You all just lost the game


Aaaaarrrrggggghhhhh!
 
2013-10-24 07:28:35 PM  
What a ridiculous statement...if they play anything they are gamers.

From D&D and Magic the gathering to console and PC gaming = gamers

I am not ashamed to say that my Youtube channel is dedicated to all of it   http://www.youtube.com/user/Greyhawk4x4

/Shameless plug off
 
2013-10-24 07:29:29 PM  
Anyone who didn't play Hero's Quest and all its expansions when they came out is not a true gamer.

I will also accept Planetfall on a TRS-80

/Damn johnny-come-latelies
 
2013-10-24 07:30:39 PM  

Gilligann: Confabulat: I play video games pretty endlessly, but the Call of Duty games do nothing for me. I guess everyone has their niche. They don't suck exactly, but they're just not much to make me want to keep playing.

I enjoy them for about a week before I learn every corner of the map and it isn't fun anymore.

I much prefer Battlefield


My issue is there's no real strategy in them anymore. It's more like a paintball speedball course. Everyone just rotates around in a circle. It really used to piss me off trying to sneak over to the other side of the map and come up on the enemy from behind, only to find out they're now spawning on the other side of the map.
 
2013-10-24 07:30:40 PM  
I guess my old MOS is public knowledge now, they have a space shuttle door gunner in the game.

Time to write that tell all book....
 
2013-10-24 07:36:44 PM  

HeartBurnKid: Eh, I could see what he's driving at here.  If a guy goes to the midnight showing of Rocky Horror every Saturday night, but shows zero interest in any other movies, is he a film buff?  Or just a Rocky Horror fan?


Fair distinction.  "Gamer" used to be shorthand for "video game geek."  Not just anybody who picked up a controller, or fired up a game of Solitaire on their work PC.

These days that definition doesn't hold, and the term has been commercialized.  I say let it apply to everybody who spends any time at all on video games, so as to make the word meaningless.  It'll pass through the social consciousness and die much more quickly that way.

Hell, I'm eagerly awaiting the end to "Geek Chic" and the commercialization of nerds.  We're already seeing the tail-end of it.  Just another couple years before nerds become uncool again...
 
2013-10-24 07:40:43 PM  

Kuroshin: HeartBurnKid: Eh, I could see what he's driving at here.  If a guy goes to the midnight showing of Rocky Horror every Saturday night, but shows zero interest in any other movies, is he a film buff?  Or just a Rocky Horror fan?

Fair distinction.  "Gamer" used to be shorthand for "video game geek."  Not just anybody who picked up a controller, or fired up a game of Solitaire on their work PC.

These days that definition doesn't hold, and the term has been commercialized.  I say let it apply to everybody who spends any time at all on video games, so as to make the word meaningless.  It'll pass through the social consciousness and die much more quickly that way.

Hell, I'm eagerly awaiting the end to "Geek Chic" and the commercialization of nerds.  We're already seeing the tail-end of it.  Just another couple years before nerds become uncool again...


I kind of like being cool, to be honest.  I had enough of being uncool when I was in high school.
 
2013-10-24 07:48:53 PM  

Benevolent Misanthrope: Doc Daneeka: A gamer is anyone who plays games.

Doesn't matter if it's Call of Duty or World of Warcraft or Civilization or Madden or Final Fantasy or Professor Layton or Farmville.

I think of a "gamer" as someone who plays games regularly, not just every once in a while when something strikes them.  <shrug>


And tends to play a variety of genre's.

Someone who only plays angry birds, and only on the shiatter, is not a gamer.

Being a "gamer" is a hobby.  You can converse with other hobbyists about specific genre's or games within that genre.

Anyone who pretty much plays one game/franchise, be it wow, cod, halo, farmville, etc, is not a gamer, no matter how frequently they play.  If they play one game a LOT, they're an addict of that particular game, and tend to know fark all about other games.

It's like calling the guy who married the first girl he ever slept with, and never even looks at other women, a "player".

I walk, to my car, to the bathroom, etc, but I am not a walker.  I may even run to my car or to the bathroom, and I am not a runner.

It's not a geek superiority thing, it's a language thing.  I do understand that many people want that geek chic for status, but they're annoying, as is any poser that doesn't know what the fark they're talking about.

Many people fish, fewer are fishermen.

It's a hobby, part of who you are.  You don't do it for status, you do it because you find joy or serenity or excitement in it, and you know a lot about it if you've been doing it for any length of time, not just one aspect, but a wide variety of forms and locations.  It's a hobby you don't drop, at least not for very long, unless your hit a rough spot in life and priorities keep you away from it.

You don't do it because you're bored or addicted.  You do it because it inspires you, because you want to explore, combat others or work with them, to do things you could never do in real life, either for giggles or self exploration.

So you read a few books, maybe a couple a year, you're not an avid reader.

A lot of my (very large)family and friends play games.  Very few of us are gamers, about 6%.

Like I said, it's not about superiority or clannishness.  I hate posers even if they try to act like they're part of something I generally don't like.  Privileged white kids from the midwest who've never been more than 5 miles from where they were born, never seen a black person except on TV, think they're gangsta's.  They know nothing of the culture and past behind the music, just think it's cool to call women biatches, don't know what a 9 or 40 even is.

It's retarded and much of the time offensive to the people who actually appreciate X.  People with no personality or interests(or interesting aspects) tend to become those annoying people that seek inclusion and approval.  In short, they're attention whores.

We all go though that.  It's not that we feel superior, it's that we don't like being lied to, or to see people lie to themselves.  We may be inclusive when people want to learn, but we get sick to death of needy people who have no idea what they're doing, who've never had an original thought in their lives.

So no, Farmville does not a gamer make.
/or something
 
2013-10-24 07:56:20 PM  
Oh man, I just filled my own gas. I'm just such a gearhead. I better find a poppin' fresh internet forum for fellow  car enthusiastslike me.
 
2013-10-24 07:56:53 PM  
Hat collecting is not a game. It is a way of life.
 
2013-10-24 08:12:47 PM  

meat0918: Do they play a game?

They are gamers.

Christ on a cracker....


Also,  You all just lost the game.


Do you play basketball?

So you're a basketball player.

DERP!!
 
2013-10-24 08:18:59 PM  

Benevolent Misanthrope: Doc Daneeka: A gamer is anyone who plays games.

Doesn't matter if it's Call of Duty or World of Warcraft or Civilization or Madden or Final Fantasy or Professor Layton or Farmville.

I think of a "gamer" as someone who plays games regularly, not just every once in a while when something strikes them.  <shrug>


Exactly. A gamer spends most of his leisure time playing games. That's why he's a gamer.

This post-modern bullshiat of applying all the labels and imbuing yourself with the characteristics they have.

Imagine if labels were Final Fantasy V classes, where you change which one you're using and thus how people perceive you.

It's the whole PRETENDING to be instead of BEING.

You can't really have more than, what 2, 3 labels, tops.

Modern people love to brand themselves as chefs, foodies, geeks, nerds, fitness, techies, photographers, film lovers, wine connoisseurs, poetry buffs, etc. but they only take the most superficial characteristics of each group of activities and they use them at their own leisure and convenience. Nobody is anything because everybody just sheds their skin if the weather changes.
 
2013-10-24 08:23:06 PM  

omeganuepsilon: Benevolent Misanthrope: Doc Daneeka: A gamer is anyone who plays games.

Doesn't matter if it's Call of Duty or World of Warcraft or Civilization or Madden or Final Fantasy or Professor Layton or Farmville.

I think of a "gamer" as someone who plays games regularly, not just every once in a while when something strikes them.  <shrug>

And tends to play a variety of genre's.

Someone who only plays angry birds, and only on the shiatter, is not a gamer.

Being a "gamer" is a hobby.  You can converse with other hobbyists about specific genre's or games within that genre.

Anyone who pretty much plays one game/franchise, be it wow, cod, halo, farmville, etc, is not a gamer, no matter how frequently they play.  If they play one game a LOT, they're an addict of that particular game, and tend to know fark all about other games.

It's like calling the guy who married the first girl he ever slept with, and never even looks at other women, a "player".

I walk, to my car, to the bathroom, etc, but I am not a walker.  I may even run to my car or to the bathroom, and I am not a runner.

It's not a geek superiority thing, it's a language thing.  I do understand that many people want that geek chic for status, but they're annoying, as is any poser that doesn't know what the fark they're talking about.

Many people fish, fewer are fishermen.

It's a hobby, part of who you are.  You don't do it for status, you do it because you find joy or serenity or excitement in it, and you know a lot about it if you've been doing it for any length of time, not just one aspect, but a wide variety of forms and locations.  It's a hobby you don't drop, at least not for very long, unless your hit a rough spot in life and priorities keep you away from it.

You don't do it because you're bored or addicted.  You do it because it inspires you, because you want to explore, combat others or work with them, to do things you could never do in real life, either for giggles or self exploration.

So you r ...


Thank you :***

Just favorited you as smart gamer :P
 
2013-10-24 08:29:31 PM  
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2013-10-24 08:32:53 PM  
People who play games on PC aren't real gamers.

Don't ask me why, I don't make the rules. That's just the way it is, and everyone knows that a forceful declaration on the internet is the truest truth.
 
2013-10-24 08:34:35 PM  
Casuals.

COD is to consoles and Candy Crush is to women.
 
2013-10-24 08:34:35 PM  
omeganuepsilon:

Anyone who pretty much plays one game/franchise, be it wow, cod, halo, farmville, etc, is not a gamer, no matter how frequently they play. If they play one game a LOT, they're an addict of that particular game, and tend to know fark all about other games.

It's like calling the guy who married the first girl he ever slept with, and never even looks at other women, a "player".

I walk, to my car, to the bathroom, etc, but I am not a walker.  I may even run to my car or to the bathroom, and I am not a runner.

Many people fish, fewer are fishermen.


<golf clap> Bravo, good sir, bravo.</golf clap>
 
2013-10-24 08:34:49 PM  
It's funny because Infinity Ward aren't actually game developers.

// Most of the talent left with West and Zampella
 
2013-10-24 08:38:18 PM  
I play one game at a time, which is hard to do when you have a lot, or if the game takes a while.  But I can't split my time between games.

I've been trying to play Resident Evil 6.  But then I started Black Ops 2 so I dropped everything else.

I got sick of Black Ops so I started L.A. Noire.  It took me 60+ hours, and in the time I couldn't be bothered with Black Ops anymore or spilt it evenly with Resident Evil.

Now that I beat L.A. Noire, I can either go back to Resident Evil (which I didn't like) or start Dead Rising 2 (which I got LAST year for Christmas!)

Point being, I guess I'm not a gamer since I play a LOT of one game at a time, but not a lot of games all at once!
 
2013-10-24 08:40:57 PM  
'No true gamer is an informal fallacy, an ad hoc attempt to retain an unreasoned assertion. When faced with a counterexample to a universal claim ("no gamer would do such a thing"), rather than denying the counterexample or rejecting the original universal claim, this fallacy modifies the subject of the assertion to exclude the specific case or others like it by rhetoric, without reference to any specific objective rule ("no  true gamer would do such a thing").'
--"No true gamer," wikipedia.org
 
2013-10-24 08:45:05 PM  
which is why its farking dumb and annoying when a decent game in another genre says "we want the call of duty audience" and ruins the sequels
 
2013-10-24 08:58:26 PM  

omeganuepsilon: It's not a geek superiority thing, it's a language thing. I do understand that many people want that geek chic for status, but they're annoying, as is any poser that doesn't know what the fark they're talking about.


I'll add on to this (one part of a wonderful post) and say that this is precisely what makes the rush to validate games so infuriating.  Because every movement to validate games will inevitably have to compromise in order for the masses to see what is special about them.  So you have games like Journey and Gone Home validating "games as art", despite the fact there is no game in them at all.  You have League of Legends and DotA 2 pushing "games as sport", despite the fact the DotA genre is completely and utterly bankrupt as a concept.  In order to gain that validation, you will have to sacrifice what makes games great.  And if you genuinely love games, then why would you want to do that?
 
2013-10-24 09:27:00 PM  
As some said in the comments, they are the Walmart shoppers of gaming.
 
2013-10-24 09:50:24 PM  
I'm too old to care about your labels for me
 
2013-10-24 10:09:11 PM  

Kuroshin: HeartBurnKid: Eh, I could see what he's driving at here.  If a guy goes to the midnight showing of Rocky Horror every Saturday night, but shows zero interest in any other movies, is he a film buff?  Or just a Rocky Horror fan?

Fair distinction.  "Gamer" used to be shorthand for "video game geek."  Not just anybody who picked up a controller, or fired up a game of Solitaire on their work PC.

These days that definition doesn't hold, and the term has been commercialized.  I say let it apply to everybody who spends any time at all on video games, so as to make the word meaningless.  It'll pass through the social consciousness and die much more quickly that way.

Hell, I'm eagerly awaiting the end to "Geek Chic" and the commercialization of nerds.  We're already seeing the tail-end of it.  Just another couple years before nerds become uncool again...


Incorrect. "Gamer" has been around a lot longer than your Nintendos, Ataris and Xbones.
 
2013-10-24 10:11:28 PM  

kieran57: Anyone who didn't play Hero's Quest and all its expansions when they came out is not a true gamer.

I will also accept Planetfall on a TRS-80

/Damn johnny-come-latelies


Star Trek, hand coded in BASIC from the back of Byte magazine, on a Heathkit Z-80 you built yourself.

/my lawn. Off it.
 
2013-10-24 11:05:58 PM  
On a used Atari 800, used to code the games in BASIC out of the gaming magazines.

Difficulty? No storage system. The Atari was a gift, and we couldn't even afford a tape drive. So I'd just leave the unit powered up until we were done with the game.
 
2013-10-24 11:24:45 PM  

kieran57: Anyone who didn't play Hero's Quest and all its expansions when they came out is not a true gamer.

I will also accept Planetfall on a TRS-80

/Damn johnny-come-latelies


Temple of Apshai FTW.

/so old...
 
2013-10-24 11:29:36 PM  
I play wow a lot but that doesnt make me a gamer. That makes me a wow player.
I also play rpgs like GURPS and 1st edition AD&D, along with many many others over the years. That DOES make me a gamer. In my opinion its mostly a self and peer applied distinction though, so if you are one, you probably already know.
 
2013-10-24 11:45:10 PM  

Foxxinnia: Oh man, I just filled my own gas. I'm just such a gearhead. I better find a poppin' fresh internet forum for fellow  car enthusiastslike me.


if i were to compare gaming to car-owning...

plays hearts/free cell = rides the bus

your average time-wasting f2p style gamer = driver who just wants to go from A to B, probably could ride the bus, doesn't know anything about cars - doesn't care to either but has it, probably barely knows how to drive as well

doesn't play games by themselves, but can somewhat handle competent games when playing with friends/party game gamer = right lane driver, knows when to change oil but hasn't changed own oil since high school, remember directions and figure out traffic, not talk on while while driving, etc. adequate

owns a console just for one annual competitive game = knows what horsepower is and has a lot of money, doesn't know technical side of cars, could probably pay somebody to install mods on their vehicle of choice, 50/50 they own a big-tire raised jeep or lowered NOS-powered ricemobile

owns a console for lots of games, but not fanatic = fan of cars, knows far more technical knowledge about cars than the previous guy, but probably burned too many times or not enough interest in doing it themselves, willing to spend extra for convenience

owns a PC for lots of games, but not a fanatic = fixes cars for a living but doesn't own a great car at home, has side bike/car sitting in driveway they tinker with every now and then

owns a console for lots of games, fanatic = cars are their life, but would rather buy a car that's already built and tuned to properly than mess anything up, probably owns a BMW

owns a PC for lots of games, fanatic = crazy asshole who races jet-engine powered trucks on salt flats, built it in the garage for shiats and giggles
 
2013-10-25 12:32:40 AM  
*Ahem*

Raise your hand if you have a dice bag with D4s, D6s, D8s, D10s, D12s, and D20s. Bonus if you have an actual D100 for the sole purpose of chucking at the DM. D6 bricks also count if you're a Warhammer, GURPS, or DF player. No no no put your hand back down Mr. I Use D20s To Track Life In Magic: The Gathering.

The rest of you? Look around. Those are gamers. They have these things called imaginations, and are far higher definition and detailed than even your rig can handle Mr. I Spent $4,000 On My Computer So That I Can Play WoW. Oh and by the way, you can run WoW at max settings on a toaster, why don't you pick something with actual graphics?

/rant over
 
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