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(The Atlantic Wire)   If you call the "McResources" helpline McDonald's operates for its employees, and ask them how you are supposed to surivive on the wages McDonald's pays, they'll cheerfully help you sign up for food stamps   (theatlanticwire.com) divider line 349
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2013-10-24 01:13:06 PM
Guess what RETARDS.....Go Work Someplace OTHER than McDonalds.

/problem solved.
 
2013-10-24 01:14:01 PM
Here's a free tip: If you work at McD, don't expect to survive on the wages. Those jobs are meant for younger people who aren't paying for family or shelter.
 
GBB [TotalFark]
2013-10-24 01:15:00 PM
AND?
 
2013-10-24 01:15:14 PM
Taxpayer subsidized job-creators FTW!
 
2013-10-24 01:15:28 PM
Minimum wage jobs are not supposed to be living wage jobs, they are not supposed to support a single parent or a family of four.  Just because a business is successful and on paper could pay more, doesn't mean they should have to, we don't live in a communist country where everyone should be paid equally regardless of being a brain surgeon or digging graves.
 
2013-10-24 01:15:43 PM
Food stamps that you can then turn around and spend at McDonalds!  It's a PERFECT system!
 
2013-10-24 01:17:22 PM
Seems like we've covered all of the bases here.
 
2013-10-24 01:17:27 PM
Not even Wal-Mart did that...

The people of McDonalds.jpg?
 
2013-10-24 01:17:47 PM
If they had to pay employees decent wages each McNugget would cost $137 dollars
 
2013-10-24 01:18:33 PM

MaritimeGirl: Minimum wage jobs are not supposed to be living wage jobs, they are not supposed to support a single parent or a family of four.


this is the lie that you have been fed, and you believe it.

stop believing lies.
 
2013-10-24 01:18:48 PM
Why not just pay them nothing and get them on welfare, as well? I'm disappointed in you, McDonalds. It'd be a profit booster.
 
2013-10-24 01:19:10 PM
There are no food "stamps". You get a card that could pass for debit card, thus sparing you from the shame that should rightfully come with living off the sweat of your hard working neighbors.
 
2013-10-24 01:19:53 PM

MaritimeGirl: Minimum wage jobs are not supposed to be living wage jobs, they are not supposed to support a single parent or a family of four.  Just because a business is successful and on paper could pay more, doesn't mean they should have to, we don't live in a communist country where everyone should be paid equally regardless of being a brain surgeon or digging graves.


Because the US has outsources middle-class labor to 3rd world living standard countries, McD's and Walmart are often the only employers in semi-rural America.

Either we classify certain jobs as ineligible for public assistance support as you would have, or we need to stop sending jobs overseas.
 
2013-10-24 01:20:04 PM

pkellmey: Here's a free tip: If you work at McD, don't expect to survive on the wages. Those jobs are meant for younger people who aren't paying for family or shelter.


Who determines which jobs are "meant" for what?

How does an 35 year old with a family go about getting hired at a job that's "meant" or him?
 
2013-10-24 01:20:30 PM

MaritimeGirl: Minimum wage jobs are not supposed to be living wage jobs, they are not supposed to support a single parent or a family of four.  Just because a business is successful and on paper could pay more, doesn't mean they should have to, we don't live in a communist country where everyone should be paid equally regardless of being a brain surgeon or digging graves.


Tell us more about your economic theories, please.
 
2013-10-24 01:20:51 PM
12 comments, and this thread already has stupid all over it.

That was quick, even for Fark.
 
2013-10-24 01:21:07 PM
If you don't work when you find a job at Mc'D's that doesn't pay what you need to live you're a bum and mooching off the system. If the only job you can find is at McD's that only pays min wage and you have a family you should find another job that pays a living wage because this one only pays min wage and only kids are supposed to have them.
That's what a bunch of assholes in this thread are saying.

www.dittoepr.com
 
2013-10-24 01:21:07 PM
Honestly, aren't we all a little better off as humans to berate McDonald's employees for foolishly accepting a job and expecting to live on that income? And aren't we all even more better off knowing that McDonald's can staff employees to route their sub-living wage employees to federal and state programs so we can make up the difference with aid via our taxes?

I feel better as an American and as a human being that my insults to these people, and taxes to aid them, is much more efficient and humanizing then just fixing a broken, farked up system where corporations like McDonalds and Wal-do treat people who look to work like shiat, pay them nothing, then farm them back to the rest of the nation to feed and shelter. Guys in Fark threads belitting these people and supporting the corporations that fark them over to expand their profits make me feel better about the future of our world.
 
2013-10-24 01:22:23 PM
I'd tell them to A. March their lazy, uneducated, too many video game playing, growing up a trouble making, no respect for adults because teenagers know it all, living in mommy and daddy's basement, waste of life across the street to BK for some additional hours because one paper hat size fits all. B. Quit at McDonalds, get a job at BK, play McDonalds monopoly and hope for that sweet jackpot.
 
2013-10-24 01:24:19 PM

frepnog: MaritimeGirl: Minimum wage jobs are not supposed to be living wage jobs, they are not supposed to support a single parent or a family of four.

this is the lie that you have been fed, and you believe it.

stop believing lies.


redstaplerchronicles.com

Grow up Brad.
 
2013-10-24 01:26:10 PM
n

BunkoSquad: If they had to pay employees decent wages each McNugget would cost $137 dollars


And our diabeetus problem would be solved!
 
2013-10-24 01:26:20 PM

lohphat: McD's and Walmart are often the only employers in semi-rural America.


I live in a rural town.  I personally commute 45-50 minutes every morning to my office.  I earn substantially more than minimum wage.

HOWEVER - in the town where I live, if you don't want or can't commute an hour to work, and wish to work locally, you are going to work at

McDonalds
Jacks
Taco Bell
Wal-Mart
Piggly-Wiggly (grocery store)
or at one of the three gas stations.

All of those jobs pay minimum wage.  All of those jobs refuse to hire full time employees.  What would you have the people that live in the community do?
 
2013-10-24 01:26:32 PM
Christ, what a bunch of assholes in this thread.
 
2013-10-24 01:29:37 PM

doubled99: There are no food "stamps". You get a card that could pass for debit card, thus sparing you from the shame that should rightfully come with living off the sweat of your hard working neighbors.


You have never stood behind someone using WIC in NY at the grocery store. It's the kind of transaction that takes at least five, perhaps ten minutes, depending on how well the customer understands the program and what they're allowed to use money for.
 
2013-10-24 01:29:44 PM
The tax payer should not have to pay to feed EMPLOYED people.
 
2013-10-24 01:30:01 PM

Krymson Tyde: Christ, what a bunch of assholes in this thread.


No, no, they're all real, true Americans who know that the less you pay people, the better business person you are. The minimum wage is a commie plot that has destroyed our blah blah blah ...

Just turn on Fox News and you'll get it.
 
2013-10-24 01:31:42 PM

rudemix: Honestly, aren't we all a little better off as humans to berate McDonald's employees for foolishly accepting a job and expecting to live on that income? And aren't we all even more better off knowing that McDonald's can staff employees to route their sub-living wage employees to federal and state programs so we can make up the difference with aid via our taxes?

I feel better as an American and as a human being that my insults to these people, and taxes to aid them, is much more efficient and humanizing then just fixing a broken, farked up system where corporations like McDonalds and Wal-do treat people who look to work like shiat, pay them nothing, then farm them back to the rest of the nation to feed and shelter. Guys in Fark threads belitting these people and supporting the corporations that fark them over to expand their profits make me feel better about the future of our world.


This. Gotta love the "I got mine, it's your fault you can't yours" attitude.
 
2013-10-24 01:35:17 PM

frepnog: lohphat: McD's and Walmart are often the only employers in semi-rural America.

I live in a rural town.  I personally commute 45-50 minutes every morning to my office.  I earn substantially more than minimum wage.

HOWEVER - in the town where I live, if you don't want or can't commute an hour to work, and wish to work locally, you are going to work at

McDonalds
Jacks
Taco Bell
Wal-Mart
Piggly-Wiggly (grocery store)
or at one of the three gas stations.

All of those jobs pay minimum wage.  All of those jobs refuse to hire full time employees.  What would you have the people that live in the community do?


This is exactly what I was just thinking about. You could live in a town of 2500 people right off the interstate where 1/4 of the the total jobs in the town are at fast food places off their 2 exits

/well you should just move to a different town then right?
 
2013-10-24 01:38:48 PM
They're just like Walmart.  They fark over their workers and expect the taxpayer to pick up the slack.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/10/21/mcdonalds-profit-taxpayers_ n_ 4136336.html
 
2013-10-24 01:39:24 PM

ChipNASA: Guess what RETARDS.....Go Work Someplace OTHER than McDonalds.

/problem solved.


You mean like Walmart?
 
2013-10-24 01:39:31 PM
purple kool-aid and a jigger of formaldehyde:

This is exactly what I was just thinking about. You could live in a town of 2500 people right off the interstate where 1/4 of the the total jobs in the town are at fast food places off their 2 exits

/well you should just move to a different town then right?


A lot of Army Wives ran into that.  If their husband got stuck at some Army base in the Midwest and the South, and she couldn't get a contracting job on base, her options were (even with a practical BA from a respectable college):

Wal-Mart
Fast-Food
Bartender
Stripper
Shady used car lot
Pawn shop
Porn shop
Gun store
 
2013-10-24 01:39:35 PM

doubled99: There are no food "stamps". You get a card that could pass for debit card, thus sparing you from the shame that should rightfully come with living off the sweat of your hard working neighbors.


I genuinely hope you lose your job today.
 
2013-10-24 01:39:59 PM
It's not difficult to advance in the fast-food industry and get regular raises if you stay for more than 6 months, which the majority of their workers don't. If you want to make it a career, don't move from company to company, don't be chronically absent or create personality conflicts, show some basic initiative, and you are all but guaranteed to substantially increase your wage within a few years all the while increasing your human capital for future opportunities. There is no legitimate reason why someone should be working for minimum-wage past age 25 or so. Also, I can't speak for McDonald's, but when I was working for a well-known sandwich chain during college, there was free food available left and right to us (anytime somebody didn't pick up their order, when the manager was being nice, and any food left over at the end of the day) and soft drinks were always on the house.
 
2013-10-24 01:42:03 PM
Why is this news? I'm pretty certain Walmart has been doing this for years.
 
2013-10-24 01:42:31 PM

frepnog: lohphat: McD's and Walmart are often the only employers in semi-rural America.

I live in a rural town.  I personally commute 45-50 minutes every morning to my office.  I earn substantially more than minimum wage.

HOWEVER - in the town where I live, if you don't want or can't commute an hour to work, and wish to work locally, you are going to work at

McDonalds
Jacks
Taco Bell
Wal-Mart
Piggly-Wiggly (grocery store)
or at one of the three gas stations.

All of those jobs pay minimum wage.  All of those jobs refuse to hire full time employees.  What would you have the people that live in the community do?


Move.  I've moved for better employment prospects.  I get that moving sucks but it is an option that not enough people consider.
 
2013-10-24 01:43:44 PM

MaritimeGirl: Minimum wage jobs are not supposed to be living wage jobs, they are not supposed to support a single parent or a family of four.  Just because a business is successful and on paper could pay more, doesn't mean they should have to, we don't live in a communist country where everyone should be paid equally regardless of being a brain surgeon or digging graves.


You should really give Larry harvey a call, you have impressive Staw man -building skills.

The US minimum wage is the MINIMUM Wage for ANY job, it is not the "training Wage" or the "juvenile minimum wage" but the Minimum Wage for ALL jobs.  The majority of Wal-mart workers for instance are at or very near minimum wage (don;t believe thier corporate bullshiat about their "average" wage since that Average includes everyone including their millionaire CEO and billionaire board members)

Now are you seriously asserting that we intended for the wage paid to the majority of employees of the country's single largest employer to not also be a "living wage"?

Also , the 1980's called, they want their sterotypes back.  When I worked fast food as a teenager in the 80's, about half of my co-workers were indeed young high school kids.   That hasn;t been true for a very long time however.  Been to a fast-food joint lately?  I'll lay you money you see no more than 1 person working who is under 18..  The economy is bad an even McJobs are fought over nowadays.

The bottom line is simply this: Setting a minimum wage below the level of a living wage, is  defacto corporate Welfare on a massive scale.  Pull up a Google Map of your home.  Count the number of Wal-Marts in a 20 mile radius. and then multiply by $900,000.  That's the NET cost of the Average Wal-Mart Store to taxpayers.In other words it costs the state and federal government $1 million more in benefits to its workers than those entities collect in sales, property, and income taxes from the stores   (and BTW Walmart has 4,300 stores in the US so do the national math and it comes out to roughly 25% of Walmart's yearly net income)


you okay with using your money to subsidize the profits of one of the largest companies in the world?
 
2013-10-24 01:44:09 PM
McJobs are walk on jobs for a reason. They take literally anybody, don't expect half the people to show up, and require no skills at all. And half the people dont' show up anyway.
You basically provide slightly more work than microwaving a burger and handing it to someone. That's just not going to add a lot of value to be exchanged for cash monies.
It's funny that people think these guys should make the same as what we pay nurse's aids, which require training, background clearances, and literally dealing with human shiat on a daily basis.
To get more money than the bare minimum job, you need to put forth more than the bare minimum effort.

Oh, and food stamps are often given to the working poor. That's why we have them.

And if you're town's too small? farking move. Seriously, unless you're a farmer or want really, really cheap property you shouldn't live in rural America. That's why we have cities.
 
2013-10-24 01:44:37 PM

farkinglizardking: Why is this news? I'm pretty certain Walmart has been doing this for years.


It's not news, it's click bait and partisan rabble rousing.
 
2013-10-24 01:46:11 PM

Magorn: The US minimum wage is the MINIMUM Wage for ANY job, it is not the "training Wage" or the "juvenile minimum wage" but the Minimum Wage for ALL jobs.


It also isn't "the raise a family" wage or the "own a house and a car" wage.
 
2013-10-24 01:46:55 PM

chapman: Move. I've moved for better employment prospects. I get that moving sucks but it is an option that not enough people consider.


most people that live in a rural community are NOT going to move.  Hell, most are not ever going to TRAVEL much more than 50 miles from where they were born.  Add that to the fact that moving is DAMNED EXPENSIVE and friend, for most people, telling them to "move" is farking insulting, because it isn't within the reach of most people.

I would LOVE to move.

I can't afford to do it.
 
2013-10-24 01:47:18 PM
This is just another examples of a corporation privatizing its profits and socializing its costs. McDonalds is not unable to pay better wages, they're unwilling. In fact, McDonalds is so aware that they pay shiat wages that they give their employees applications for goddamn food stamps. WE, the taxpayer, pick up that cost, NOT McDonalds.

Oh and for the inevitable, "why don't they just get an adult job" troll: oh, you mean like a job in the steel industry or the electronics industry or the home appliance industry? Perhaps they could if companies like Zenith or Magnavox or MayTag or Whirlpool or Polaroid hadn't been wiped out by corporate douchebags who shipped those jobs overseas over the last couple of decades. Welcome to our new service industry economy. Do you want fries with that?
 
2013-10-24 01:48:06 PM
Maybe the GOP has it right then, and we should slash social welfare programs, in order to accelerate the coming revolution led by the working poor tired of being farked over.
 
2013-10-24 01:48:54 PM

chapman: farkinglizardking: Why is this news? I'm pretty certain Walmart has been doing this for years.

It's not news, it's click bait and partisan rabble rousing.


I commented before reading through the thread. I forgot where I was for a second; luckily, the anger of fark reminded me. I have an opinion, but I'd rather just sit back and watch this thread for a bit.

/getting popcorn ready
 
2013-10-24 01:49:21 PM

NutWrench: Perhaps they could if companies like Zenith or Magnavox or MayTag or Whirlpool or Polaroid hadn't been wiped out by corporate douchebags who shipped those jobs overseas over the last couple of decades.


this.  there used to be manufacturing jobs out the wazoo.

not any motherfarking longer.
 
2013-10-24 01:49:25 PM

frepnog: lohphat: McD's and Walmart are often the only employers in semi-rural America.

I live in a rural town.  I personally commute 45-50 minutes every morning to my office.  I earn substantially more than minimum wage.

HOWEVER - in the town where I live, if you don't want or can't commute an hour to work, and wish to work locally, you are going to work at

McDonalds
Jacks
Taco Bell
Wal-Mart
Piggly-Wiggly (grocery store)
or at one of the three gas stations.

All of those jobs pay minimum wage.  All of those jobs refuse to hire full time employees.  What would you have the people that live in the community do?


move
 
2013-10-24 01:51:00 PM

frepnog: lohphat: McD's and Walmart are often the only employers in semi-rural America.

I live in a rural town.  I personally commute 45-50 minutes every morning to my office.  I earn substantially more than minimum wage.

HOWEVER - in the town where I live, if you don't want or can't commute an hour to work, and wish to work locally, you are going to work at

McDonalds
Jacks
Taco Bell
Wal-Mart
Piggly-Wiggly (grocery store)
or at one of the three gas stations.

All of those jobs pay minimum wage.  All of those jobs refuse to hire full time employees.  What would you have the people that live in the community do?


Take some "job creators" out behind the shed and beat a sense of civic duty into them.
 
2013-10-24 01:51:22 PM
This thread pleases our corporate overlords.
 
2013-10-24 01:51:27 PM

SDRR: frepnog: lohphat: McD's and Walmart are often the only employers in semi-rural America.

I live in a rural town.  I personally commute 45-50 minutes every morning to my office.  I earn substantially more than minimum wage.

HOWEVER - in the town where I live, if you don't want or can't commute an hour to work, and wish to work locally, you are going to work at

McDonalds
Jacks
Taco Bell
Wal-Mart
Piggly-Wiggly (grocery store)
or at one of the three gas stations.

All of those jobs pay minimum wage.  All of those jobs refuse to hire full time employees.  What would you have the people that live in the community do?

move


so, asshole, you going to move an ENTIRE community in the rural south?

To where, exactly?  to the next town over that has the exact same problem?  or to the city an hour away, where there is basically no available employement that isn't farking Starbucks?

Propose a solution.  "Move" is not one.
 
2013-10-24 01:52:02 PM
 
2013-10-24 01:53:26 PM
Perhaps, just maybe. Paying attention in school. Learning how to speak correctly, learning simple little things, like how to pronounce the letter "R", or how not to say "Yawl" in professional conversation, perhaps learning how to speak English so no one can make a judgement about you on the phone would be a head start. Perhaps learning how to talk correctly and using posture that doesn't mimic some sort of spastic animal, and adopting the body language of the professional world might be advantageous.
Just saying.
 
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