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(Salon)   Diebold, famous for totally not rigging the 2004 election, has been indicted for bribery and falsification of documents, which are just the latest charges in "a worldwide pattern of criminal conduct"   (salon.com) divider line 60
    More: Scary, Diebold, United States Attorney, deferred prosecution, criminal information, U.S. Department of Justice, internal controls  
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2013-10-24 11:52:12 AM  
It's good to be king, eh George?
 
2013-10-24 11:54:37 AM  
"I am committed to helping Ohio deliver its electoral votes to the president."
 
2013-10-24 11:54:46 AM  
Wonder how old that pic of their HQ is.  I drive by it almost every day and there are 7 flagpoles out front (one for the US and the others for the other places where they have operations).
 
2013-10-24 11:56:23 AM  

Headso: "I am committed to helping Ohio deliver its electoral votes to the president."


Yep. Safe Rmoney territory, all locked up.
 
2013-10-24 11:56:53 AM  
images.sodahead.com
 
2013-10-24 11:57:02 AM  

Headso: "I am committed to helping Ohio deliver its electoral votes to the president."


i1.cpcache.com
 
2013-10-24 11:57:30 AM  
So I guess the obvious tag was passed out in a pool of his own vomit?
 
2013-10-24 11:59:05 AM  
"nobody will go to jail for what U.S. Attorney Steven Dettelbach describes as their "worldwide pattern of criminal conduct," because they are a corporation - and you are not."

nelson_haha.jpg
 
2013-10-24 12:02:26 PM  
 
2013-10-24 12:02:52 PM  
I wish they had rigged it in 2012.
 
2013-10-24 12:03:41 PM  
What happened in Ohio needs to be talked about more.

http://harpers.org/archive/2005/08/none-dare-call-it-stolen/
 
2013-10-24 12:03:53 PM  
Die Die
 
2013-10-24 12:08:35 PM  
Well, better late than never.
 
2013-10-24 12:10:51 PM  
Well, what do you want to happen?  If we find that an election was stolen and the course of human history altered by a little cheating, what do you want to do about it?  Seriously, the damage is already done...and besides, none of the benefactors of the cheating will ever actually pay for it...they'll just scapegoat some underling or pay a simple fine.
 
2013-10-24 12:11:01 PM  

Gosling: Well, better late than never.


Given that nothing will actually happen, we're still stuck on "never".
 
2013-10-24 12:11:38 PM  

powtard: Well, what do you want to happen?  If we find that an election was stolen and the course of human history altered by a little cheating, what do you want to do about it?  Seriously, the damage is already done...and besides, none of the benefactors of the cheating will ever actually pay for it...they'll just scapegoat some underling or pay a simple fine.


How about taking steps to make sure it doesn't happen again?
 
2013-10-24 12:13:17 PM  

gnosis301: "nobody will go to jail for what U.S. Attorney Steven Dettelbach describes as their "worldwide pattern of criminal conduct," because they are a corporation - and you are not."


Obviously this guy never tried to have kinky sex with a corporation.  It takes some serious lube.

www.corporatelube.com
 
2013-10-24 12:14:42 PM  
Not just criminal, we're criminal worldwide!
 
2013-10-24 12:14:49 PM  
FTFA: The agreement with federal prosecutors also calls for the implementation of rigorous internal controls that includes a compliance monitor for at least 18 months.

Eighteen whole months? Is that like one month for every year of suspected criminal activity?
 
d23 [TotalFark]
2013-10-24 12:16:58 PM  
I'll believe corporations are people when one turns down my proposition.
 
2013-10-24 12:20:18 PM  
This thread:

files.abovetopsecret.com
 
d23 [TotalFark]
2013-10-24 12:21:08 PM  
Diebold to pay nearly $50 million in penalties: $23 million to the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission, and $25 million to the Department of Justice.

i1.ytimg.com

"That's like a $5.50 parking ticket to you and me..."
 
2013-10-24 12:21:54 PM  
Why else do you think they were brought in?
 
d23 [TotalFark]
2013-10-24 12:23:40 PM  

Beware_Me: This thread:

[files.abovetopsecret.com image 340x255]


It's not a conspiracy by definition when the plan is open for everyone to see.
 
2013-10-24 12:28:31 PM  

qorkfiend: powtard: Well, what do you want to happen?  If we find that an election was stolen and the course of human history altered by a little cheating, what do you want to do about it?  Seriously, the damage is already done...and besides, none of the benefactors of the cheating will ever actually pay for it...they'll just scapegoat some underling or pay a simple fine.

How about taking steps to make sure it doesn't happen again?


And making it a nationwide story. The scandal is deserves to be. A shameful moment in American history brought about by a specific ideology that we as Americans need to make sure never happens again?
 
2013-10-24 12:29:33 PM  

Beware_Me: This thread:

[files.abovetopsecret.com image 340x255]


Well, yes. It was a conspiracy. It was a well documented conspiracy. Is the factual nature of the conspiracy disturbing to you? Are you unable to process facts?
 
2013-10-24 12:32:52 PM  
I am Jack's complete lack of surprise, both in respect to the allegations and the minimal consequences.
 
2013-10-24 12:44:23 PM  
imageshack.us
 
2013-10-24 12:46:18 PM  

qorkfiend: powtard: Well, what do you want to happen?  If we find that an election was stolen and the course of human history altered by a little cheating, what do you want to do about it?  Seriously, the damage is already done...and besides, none of the benefactors of the cheating will ever actually pay for it...they'll just scapegoat some underling or pay a simple fine.

How about taking steps to make sure it doesn't happen again?


Why on Earth would you want to do that? Corporations are people (who can't actually be held criminally accounbtable for their actions) and money is speech (whoever has the most money gets the most freedom to have their speech heard). That's the American Way!!!

The Supreme Court ruled on this matter in Citizens United. And if it's Constitutional, then it's our duty as Americans to follow this to the letter.

(This comment brought to you by GOPCAPWHOBAMOVUS PAC (GOP Against Poors, Women, Homosexuals, "Others," Blacks and Minorities of Various Unappealing Stripes Political Action Committee).
Members of, donors to, and financial beneficiaries of GOPCAPWHOBAMOVUS PAC withheld because fark you, that's why.)
 
2013-10-24 12:49:17 PM  

mediablitz: Well, yes. It was a conspiracy. It was a well documented conspiracy. Is the factual nature of the conspiracy disturbing to you? Are you unable to process facts?


And yet the article is about their ATM business.  Not voting machines.

/and even if it was - there is very little actual evidence that they their machines somehow cause Ohio to go to Bush
//John Kerry caused that
 
2013-10-24 12:52:08 PM  

gingerjet: mediablitz: Well, yes. It was a conspiracy. It was a well documented conspiracy. Is the factual nature of the conspiracy disturbing to you? Are you unable to process facts?

And yet the article is about their ATM business.  Not voting machines.

/and even if it was - there is very little actual evidence that they their machines somehow cause Ohio to go to Bush
//John Kerry caused that


Uh. The ATM business dealings was a consipiracy. They conspired with others to hide information. It's all documented in the article.
 
2013-10-24 12:52:11 PM  

d23: I'll believe corporations are people when one turns down my proposition.


I'll believe it when one is executed in Texas.
 
2013-10-24 12:52:35 PM  

MustangFive: qorkfiend: powtard: Well, what do you want to happen?  If we find that an election was stolen and the course of human history altered by a little cheating, what do you want to do about it?  Seriously, the damage is already done...and besides, none of the benefactors of the cheating will ever actually pay for it...they'll just scapegoat some underling or pay a simple fine.

How about taking steps to make sure it doesn't happen again?

Why on Earth would you want to do that? Corporations are people (who can't actually be held criminally accounbtable for their actions) and money is speech (whoever has the most money gets the most freedom to have their speech heard). That's the American Way!!!

The Supreme Court ruled on this matter in Citizens United. And if it's Constitutional, then it's our duty as Americans to follow this to the letter.

(This comment brought to you by GOPCAPWHOBAMOVUS PAC (GOP Campaign Against Poors, Women, Homosexuals, "Others," Blacks and Minorities of Various Unappealing Stripes Political Action Committee).
Members of, donors to, and financial beneficiaries of GOPCAPWHOBAMOVUS PAC withheld because fark you, that's why.)


FTFM
 
2013-10-24 12:53:36 PM  
gingerjet: mediablitz: Well, yes. It was a conspiracy. It was a well documented conspiracy. Is the factual nature of the conspiracy disturbing to you? Are you unable to process facts?

And yet the article is about their ATM business.  Not voting machines.

/and even if it was - there is very little actual evidence that they their machines somehow cause Ohio to go to Bush
//John Kerry caused that


I guess someone screwed up the programming in '08 and '12
 
d23 [TotalFark]
2013-10-24 01:02:37 PM  

Oldiron_79: gingerjet: mediablitz: Well, yes. It was a conspiracy. It was a well documented conspiracy. Is the factual nature of the conspiracy disturbing to you? Are you unable to process facts?

And yet the article is about their ATM business.  Not voting machines.

/and even if it was - there is very little actual evidence that they their machines somehow cause Ohio to go to Bush
//John Kerry caused that

I guess someone screwed up the programming in '08 and '12


It's funny how the programming screwups always favor a certain party.
 
2013-10-24 01:13:24 PM  

Oldiron_79: gingerjet: mediablitz: Well, yes. It was a conspiracy. It was a well documented conspiracy. Is the factual nature of the conspiracy disturbing to you? Are you unable to process facts?

And yet the article is about their ATM business.  Not voting machines.

/and even if it was - there is very little actual evidence that they their machines somehow cause Ohio to go to Bush
//John Kerry caused that

I guess someone screwed up the programming in '08 and '12


Not getting all the voting comments. The article very clearly lays out the conspiracy involved in the ATM business.
 
2013-10-24 01:18:20 PM  

Oldiron_79: gingerjet: mediablitz: Well, yes. It was a conspiracy. It was a well documented conspiracy. Is the factual nature of the conspiracy disturbing to you? Are you unable to process facts?

And yet the article is about their ATM business.  Not voting machines.

/and even if it was - there is very little actual evidence that they their machines somehow cause Ohio to go to Bush
//John Kerry caused that

I guess someone screwed up the programming in '08 and '12


Why do you think Karl Rove was so pissed when Fox called Ohio?
 
2013-10-24 01:18:58 PM  
We need a corporate death penalty.  This corp should be turned over to the gov't and it's board of directors/executives executed.  Then maybe these folks will think twice about their illegal activities.
 
2013-10-24 01:30:02 PM  

Kangaroo_Ralph: I wish they had rigged it in 2012.


Yes, we get it. You'd rather live in a world where the 'right' people win than an actual democracy, or democratic republic.

I'm sure you fancy yourself some high and mighty protector of democracy, too, you traitorous wretch.
 
2013-10-24 01:33:25 PM  

mediablitz: Oldiron_79: gingerjet: mediablitz: Well, yes. It was a conspiracy. It was a well documented conspiracy. Is the factual nature of the conspiracy disturbing to you? Are you unable to process facts?

And yet the article is about their ATM business.  Not voting machines.

/and even if it was - there is very little actual evidence that they their machines somehow cause Ohio to go to Bush
//John Kerry caused that

I guess someone screwed up the programming in '08 and '12

Not getting all the voting comments. The article very clearly lays out the conspiracy involved in the ATM business.


Probably has something to do with subby mentioning the 2004 election.
 
2013-10-24 01:43:21 PM  
They can always change their name to Xe Services.
 
2013-10-24 01:52:46 PM  

Felgraf: Kangaroo_Ralph: I wish they had rigged it in 2012.

Yes, we get it. You'd rather live in a world where the 'right' people win than an actual democracy, or democratic republic.

I'm sure you fancy yourself some high and mighty protector of democracy, too, you traitorous wretch.


The new voting restrictions are about LIBERTY, damn it! The more people disenfranchised, the greater the LIBERTY!

/good bumper sticker
 
2013-10-24 02:28:24 PM  
I love hearing the derpstorm when it's suggested that election results be hand-counted without the use of obvious conflict of interest machinery like Diebold, and that advisers from other countries monitor our elections for at least 20 years.
 
2013-10-24 02:33:45 PM  

whidbey: I love hearing the derpstorm when it's suggested that election results be hand-counted without the use of obvious conflict of interest machinery like Diebold, and that advisers from other countries monitor our elections for at least 20 years.


there is a serious need for election reform in this country.

• elections need to be held on a weekend - a saturday AND sunday. or at the very least, make election tuesday a national holiday.
• there needs to be a standardized voting machine. ideally an optical-scan machine with paper ballots. and it needs to be designed, built, maintained and housed by a nonpartisan federal agency, a la the bureau of engraving and printing.
• corporate money must be banned from elections. corporations are NOT people and therefore cannot be afforded the right of free speech that people have
• in fact, national elections - state rep, senator, & president - need to be publicly funded.

of course, if we did these things, republicans would never again hold office...
 
2013-10-24 02:37:06 PM  

FlashHarry: there is a serious need for election reform in this country.


The unrepentant idealist in me says that campaign reform would be the Great Uniter for liberals and conservatives in this society. Depends on whether righties, even moderate ones, really want that shiat.
 
2013-10-24 02:39:42 PM  
Hey, the Mafia did the same shiat for JFK in the 60s. Just business as usual
 
2013-10-24 03:03:31 PM  
So a guy who sells a bag of weed on a street corner will go to prison for multiple years, but the people who participated in the "worldwide pattern of criminal conduct" will not be charged with anything?  Oh, and the company is paying all the fines?

If only the guy selling the bag of weed was part of a big corporation that made lots of political donations.  Then maybe he'd get out of jail too.
 
2013-10-24 03:16:45 PM  

FlashHarry: whidbey: I love hearing the derpstorm when it's suggested that election results be hand-counted without the use of obvious conflict of interest machinery like Diebold, and that advisers from other countries monitor our elections for at least 20 years.

there is a serious need for election reform in this country.

• elections need to be held on a weekend - a saturday AND sunday. or at the very least, make election tuesday a national holiday.
• there needs to be a standardized voting machine. ideally an optical-scan machine with paper ballots. and it needs to be designed, built, maintained and housed by a nonpartisan federal agency, a la the bureau of engraving and printing.
• corporate money must be banned from elections. corporations are NOT people and therefore cannot be afforded the right of free speech that people have
• in fact, national elections - state rep, senator, & president - need to be publicly funded.

of course, if we did these things, republicans would never again hold office...


CORPORATIONS would never again hold office.

Big difference.
 
2013-10-24 03:18:15 PM  

powtard: Well, what do you want to happen?  If we find that an election was stolen and the course of human history altered by a little cheating, what do you want to do about it?  Seriously, the damage is already done...and besides, none of the benefactors of the cheating will ever actually pay for it...they'll just scapegoat some underling or pay a simple fine.


Well, for starters, mandatory jail time for all participants in the fraud. Then, the political party involved should be forbidden to advertise on television, radio, internet, and through the mail for a period of not less than ten years for all candidates at the level the fraud happened down. So, if this happens with a candidate for a state office, no election advertising for that party in that state for any candidates, including local and county elections. If it happens in a presidential race, that party may not advertise any candidate in the entire country.

That's what I want to see happen.
 
2013-10-24 03:46:51 PM  

geek_mars: FTFA: The agreement with federal prosecutors also calls for the implementation of rigorous internal controls that includes a compliance monitor for at least 18 months.

Eighteen whole months? Is that like one month for every year of suspected criminal activity?


I have got to incorporate my uterus. These perks are amazing.
 
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