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(BBC)   EU parliament votes to stop sharing data with US, still thinks they have a say in the matter   (bbc.co.uk) divider line 14
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2013-10-24 01:51:46 PM  
4 votes:
Wake me up when it's binding and not just an empty gesture. And I really wouldn't blame them for it then either. America is out of control.
2013-10-24 01:55:29 PM  
2 votes:

Phineas: It's amusing/ironic/stupid how many liberals were butthurt about FISA courts and how they handled warrantless surveillance, and how easily those some butthurt hypocrites are OK with a much broader and more intrusive surveillance because OBAMAAAAA


Find me this liberal. I'll wait.
2013-10-25 06:00:57 AM  
1 votes:
As if they've never spied on anyone.  Governments spying on friends and enemies has been around as long as there's been governments
2013-10-24 06:53:09 PM  
1 votes:
lh4.googleusercontent.com

Is shocked--SHOCKED--to find foreign nations spying on one another!
2013-10-24 05:06:37 PM  
1 votes:

Gawdzila: Phineas: It's amusing/ironic/stupid how many liberals were butthurt about FISA courts and how they handled warrantless surveillance, and how easily those some butthurt hypocrites are OK with a much broader and more intrusive surveillance because OBAMAAAAA

As a far left liberal, I don't know what you're talking about.  I'm not okay with it at all.
However, he is using powers that were specifically granted by Bush and his goddamn Patriot Act, a piece of lawmaking that I hated and wanted to repeal precisely for this reason. But I must also point out that the Patriot Act was overwhelmingly supported by Republicans and the right-wing in general.  And now THEY are complaining about Obama actually using it??  It's the right-wing being hypocrites here, or at least just blindly stupid for supporting such an intrusive piece of legislation without having the slightest clue what it meant.  But hey, it's called the Patriot Act, it must be unpatriotic not to support it, hurr durr.


That's the thing though. The Republicans are not making much noise at all. The scream about non-existant scandals but ignore real scandals.
2013-10-24 05:04:07 PM  
1 votes:

MaliFinn: C'mon Michelle Bachmann, say something crazy and stupid about this, don't let us down, we know you're good for a batshiat quote


I'm surprised she and the other tea drones aren't putting the boot into Obama about the NSA shenanigans.
2013-10-24 03:52:06 PM  
1 votes:
Article with a few more details: Link

The new laws will forbid companies to "share European citizens' data with authorities of a third country, unless explicitly allowed by EU law or an international treaty."

So if a US company gets an inquiry from NSA to share data (or even a court order) they may chose to break either US or EU laws. And if they break the EU laws, there will be a price.

These will be interesting times for American IT companies.

/I think it's more business protectionism than anti-espionage or citizen privacy
2013-10-24 03:37:22 PM  
1 votes:

bigsteve3OOO: Thank you.


paygun: Seriously though, that was pretty impressive



I would hardly be better than Fox News viewers if I denied reality.  I just don't find it problematic to support Obama in general while disliking certain policies of his.  No political figure is going to agree with my views on everything; I support him because I believe that his values and approach to problem solving are generally in line with mine, not because I believe he is my perfect, flawless Presidential avatar.  Political "purity tests" are for the Tea Party.
2013-10-24 03:21:29 PM  
1 votes:

bigsteve3OOO: Ok can we finally say Obama the leader of the executive branch that the NSA falls under is at fault for this?  Or is he somehow not to blame again?  Better yet Libs please explain how Obama is not responsible?


Of course he is responsible.
I don't agree at all with what he is doing, and I hope that the Bush-enacted, Republican-supported Patriot Act is repealed so that this sort of thing is no longer entirely legal.

/Lib
2013-10-24 03:09:04 PM  
1 votes:

Phineas: It's amusing/ironic/stupid how many liberals were butthurt about FISA courts and how they handled warrantless surveillance, and how easily those some butthurt hypocrites are OK with a much broader and more intrusive surveillance because OBAMAAAAA


As a far left liberal, I don't know what you're talking about.  I'm not okay with it at all.
However, he is using powers that were specifically granted by Bush and his goddamn Patriot Act, a piece of lawmaking that I hated and wanted to repeal precisely for this reason. But I must also point out that the Patriot Act was overwhelmingly supported by Republicans and the right-wing in general.  And now THEY are complaining about Obama actually using it??  It's the right-wing being hypocrites here, or at least just blindly stupid for supporting such an intrusive piece of legislation without having the slightest clue what it meant.  But hey, it's called the Patriot Act, it must be unpatriotic not to support it, hurr durr.
2013-10-24 02:52:13 PM  
1 votes:

spamky: Sneakernets: Phineas: It's amusing/ironic/stupid how many liberals were butthurt about FISA courts and how they handled warrantless surveillance, and how easily those some butthurt hypocrites are OK with a much broader and more intrusive surveillance because OBAMAAAAA

Find me this liberal. I'll wait.

Obama himself, for one


You think Obama's a liberal? Have you been paying attention the last 5 years? Dude's a shade to the right of Reagan.
2013-10-24 02:14:02 PM  
1 votes:
Close our own borders, and SECURE them. All our people come home and we worry about ourselves.

I can dream can't I..
2013-10-24 02:12:56 PM  
1 votes:

Phineas: It's amusing/ironic/stupid how many liberals were butthurt about FISA courts and how they handled warrantless surveillance, and how easily those some butthurt hypocrites are OK with a much broader and more intrusive surveillance because OBAMAAAAA


I like the "many" qualifier. It's a rather neat rhetorical trick. It means that no matter how many times me and other liberals who are emphatically not okay with this stand up and say so, you get to simply ignore us and pretend that there's a vast liberal conspiracy of silence and collusion because it's perfectly unqualified and utterly flexible.
2013-10-24 01:40:06 PM  
1 votes:
I wish this was more than a symbolic vote.
 
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