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(DFW Star-Telegram)   Six Flags execs: Please don't die on our rides, it hurts attendance   (star-telegram.com) divider line 26
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ZAZ [TotalFark]
2013-10-24 09:40:00 AM  
Attendance and revenue at Six Flags Over Texas in Arlington declined after the July accident in which a Dallas woman fell to her death ... "There clearly was an impact," Jim Reid-Anderson, chief executive of Grand Prairie-based Six Flags Entertainment Corp., told Wall Street analysts

He must have attended the Tony Hayward school of public relations and disaster management.
 
2013-10-24 10:04:33 AM  
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2013-10-24 10:45:05 AM  

ZAZ: Attendance and revenue at Six Flags Over Texas in Arlington declined after the July accident in which a Dallas woman fell to her death ... "There clearly was an impact," Jim Reid-Anderson, chief executive of Grand Prairie-based Six Flags Entertainment Corp., told Wall Street analysts

He must have attended the Tony Hayward school of public relations and disaster management.


Damn you beat me to it.

I was gonna say, poor choice of words there buddy.
 
2013-10-24 10:54:36 AM  

ZAZ: Attendance and revenue at Six Flags Over Texas in Arlington declined after the July accident in which a Dallas woman fell to her death ... "There clearly was an impact," Jim Reid-Anderson, chief executive of Grand Prairie-based Six Flags Entertainment Corp., told Wall Street analysts

He must have attended the Tony Hayward school of public relations and disaster management.


I remember that in the news...


thegazette.com
 
2013-10-24 11:07:45 AM  
I always thought the danger of crashing was what made The Demon at Great America so awesome.  I would add the Mindbender at Over Georgia to that list.  You know a roller coaster is from the 70s when it goes upside-down three times with only a lap belt.
 
2013-10-24 11:38:34 AM  
I had a similar experience on the wooden coaster in Vancouver's Playland. The restraint was a single bar in front of you, at least a foot away. My knuckles were white the whole time. They had padding on structural members because people were obviously hitting them as they passed. Only rode it once but the genuine danger did add to the fun.
 
2013-10-24 11:46:55 AM  

ZAZ: Attendance and revenue at Six Flags Over Texas in Arlington declined after the July accident in which a Dallas woman fell to her death ... "There clearly was an impact," Jim Reid-Anderson, chief executive of Grand Prairie-based Six Flags Entertainment Corp., told Wall Street analysts

He must have attended the Tony Hayward school of public relations and disaster management.


Came here to say this could have been phrased a little better.

/But did it leave an impression?
 
2013-10-24 12:11:01 PM  
Just change the name of the ride like in Roller Coaster Tycoon, they will come back in droves. Suckers!
 
2013-10-24 12:17:03 PM  

bdub77: ZAZ: Attendance and revenue at Six Flags Over Texas in Arlington declined after the July accident in which a Dallas woman fell to her death ... "There clearly was an impact," Jim Reid-Anderson, chief executive of Grand Prairie-based Six Flags Entertainment Corp., told Wall Street analysts

He must have attended the Tony Hayward school of public relations and disaster management.

Damn you beat me to it.

I was gonna say, poor choice of words there buddy.


I remember a newscast about a man who had drowned and the friend called him "a rock for us all."

/csb
 
2013-10-24 12:28:59 PM  

ZAZ: Attendance and revenue at Six Flags Over Texas in Arlington declined after the July accident in which a Dallas woman fell to her death ... "There clearly was an impact," Jim Reid-Anderson, chief executive of Grand Prairie-based Six Flags Entertainment Corp., told Wall Street analysts

He must have attended the Tony Hayward school of public relations and disaster management.


Well, at least he didn't come out and say "go be fat somewhere else." Instead they have a ride chair for everyone to try out.
 
2013-10-24 12:40:55 PM  
Dumbasses scared of the amusement park when the drive to and fro is more likely to kill them.
 
2013-10-24 12:41:10 PM  
Sweet.  Does that mean they wont be massively overcrowded and have actually tolerable lines?
 
2013-10-24 12:57:09 PM  
It's Texas.  Put "bible" somewhere in the name of the park and it will fill up again.
 
2013-10-24 12:58:01 PM  
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2013-10-24 02:43:22 PM  

Rapmaster2000: I always thought the danger of crashing was what made The Demon at Great America so awesome.  I would add the Mindbender at Over Georgia to that list.  You know a roller coaster is from the 70s when it goes upside-down three times with only a lap belt.



Or from the 1990s (retrofit), 2000s, or 2010s.

One manufacturer is doing it, anyway. The rest... not so much.
 
2013-10-24 02:52:12 PM  
TFA is missing background info.  The woman who died - was she tall/short/fat/skinny? What's the point of having the chair at the start of the line to see if you fit?
 
2013-10-24 03:46:04 PM  

utsagrad123: Sweet.  Does that mean they wont be massively overcrowded and have actually tolerable lines?


For seasonal parks, go on a weekday at the very beginning or end of season when large numbers of grade schools are in session but most colleges haven't opened yet.  There won't be any shows and a lot of shops closed, but who cares about that shiat?
 
2013-10-24 03:52:42 PM  

12349876: utsagrad123: Sweet.  Does that mean they wont be massively overcrowded and have actually tolerable lines?

For seasonal parks, go on a weekday at the very beginning or end of season when large numbers of grade schools are in session but most colleges haven't opened yet.  There won't be any shows and a lot of shops closed, but who cares about that shiat?


That is true.  I've considering doing that several times. It's more trying to justify taking a day off to go to a theme park.  I have better things to do on my days off.
 
2013-10-24 04:11:29 PM  

12349876: utsagrad123: Sweet.  Does that mean they wont be massively overcrowded and have actually tolerable lines?

For seasonal parks, go on a weekday at the very beginning or end of season when large numbers of grade schools are in session but most colleges haven't opened yet.  There won't be any shows and a lot of shops closed, but who cares about that shiat?


Around here you could go in October on a weekend and there would be no lines. But now a lot of parks are doing Halloween stuff. But even in season weekdays are good to go too.
 
2013-10-24 04:53:29 PM  
It was ungodly hot in Texas in July and August. Maybe that had something to do with it?

/Also, ridiculously long lines, throngs of idiot teenagers, disgusting food, throw- up rides that hardly ever change, lame shows might have also contributed.
 
2013-10-24 04:59:47 PM  

12349876: utsagrad123: Sweet.  Does that mean they wont be massively overcrowded and have actually tolerable lines?

For seasonal parks, go on a weekday at the very beginning or end of season when large numbers of grade schools are in session but most colleges haven't opened yet.  There won't be any shows and a lot of shops closed, but who cares about that shiat?


We go to ours Sunday morning right when it opens. Most people are at church and you can hit all the rides, often with no line, before it starts to feel crowded.
 
2013-10-24 05:03:51 PM  
Another good way to get into Six Flags over Texas is to know a friend who works for a very large company in the area. Sometimes they have nights where the whole park is open just to employees, their friends, and their family. I ran the Shockwave until I blacked out on American Airlines night.
 
2013-10-24 08:44:49 PM  

FrancoFile: TFA is missing background info.  The woman who died - was she tall/short/fat/skinny? What's the point of having the chair at the start of the line to see if you fit?


a) This was the Fatty-Boombaladdy (medical terminology) what fell out/squished out of the Texas Giant some months back--large lady about the size of a small bison who would probably not have been allowed on the ride had it NOT been at a Six Flags.  (I know at the very least she'd have probably been Politely Redirected To A More Appropriate Ride For Those Of Bisonic Proportions at Cedar Fair and Disney properties, as well as a lot of the indies like Holiday World and Kennywood and Hershey Park and probably at the Busch Gardens and Universal Studios properties too.  Cedar Fair in particular tends to be much stricter in making sure that people are put to a ride appropriate to their size, and Holiday World does a surprisingly good job of this for being an indie that has become very famous as of late as a Very Good Thrill Rides Park.)

b) One of the dirtier secrets re Six Flags parks (well, along with the occasional rider-breaking maintenance issues) is that--unlike pretty much all of their competition--the older rides and even a fair amount of the newer thrill rides do not necessarily have a Trial Seat at the beginning of the ride queue.  (About the only other park chain similarly lacking are the Disney properties, and generally they are NOT competing with the likes of Six Flags or Cedar Fair--Universal Studios, very yes, other park chains, not quite so much.)

Also, multiple reports on coaster forums have noted that the Texas Giant did not have a Trial Seat at all.

c) As has been mentioned in the last thread we had regarding this issue...one of the things that's getting more recognition in amusement park safety is that...well...to put it bluntly...lap-bar restraints and T-bar restraints don't work so well at restraining People Of Bisonic Proportions (either bovid OR the jefe de Shadowloo), and they certainly DON'T work well in people who have large guts that may block the T-bar or lap-bar from closing completely.  (Cedar Fair had a similar issue with a water ride that used a T-bar and sent a Fatty-Boombaladdy sailing off the side of the very high water chute; hell, Six Flags itself has had similar issues with at least one of its Superman coasters (in New Jersey, as I recall) also sending a Rider Of Large Gut airborne.  It's becoming actually a more recognised issue in ride design.)

It doesn't help that pretty much all of the major ride manufacturers (save for one or two that specialise in woodie coasters) tend to be based overseas where...well...there aren't as many People Of Bisonic Proportions as there are in the US.

(And I'll even note that this is an issue that goes even beyond Fatty-Boombaladdys getting on a coaster; men who are not fatties but have more of the jefe-de-Shadowloo Bisonic Proportions tend to have a lot of issues with over-the-shoulder restraints as used on a lot of flying and suspended coasters (not fat, but the chest circumference is too much to safely close the ride), amputees are increasingly being recognised as a potential liability on rides (alas, thanks to our misadventures in the Middle East there is a rather sizable population of thrill-seeker veterans missing a limb...or two...or three; let's just say restraints are not exactly designed for people missing a thigh or an upper arm, much less multiple limbs missing).  One thing parks are running into lately goes even beyond physical reasons why a ride may be unsafe, and more towards "parents or guardians forcing the kid with autism or the kid with intellectual disabilities onto a ride, and the poor sprog freaks the goddamn hell out and does their very best impersonation of "kitty at the vet's office" desperately trying to escape the Very Scary Experience; parks are now starting to put training procedures in place for "how to gently but firmly refuse a ride to parents and a kid who is wigging out severely and may not exactly be able to verbalise their quite-possibly-literal-pants-shiatting-terror"...seeing as a non-negligible percentage of fatal accidents at amusement parks do consist of Special-Needs Guests wigging out and springing their restraints right as the coaster drops from the lift hill, etc.)
 
2013-10-24 09:04:08 PM  

Great Porn Dragon: ..seeing as a non-negligible percentage of fatal accidents at amusement parks do consist of Special-Needs Guests wigging out and springing their restraints right as the coaster drops from the lift hill, etc.)


So you're saying that a special needs kid falling to their death on a thrill ride would be a downer?

/Window seat on the flight to hell, please


Snark aside, your wall o' text was totally worth reading. I hadn't considered a lot of that information, but it makes sense. Kudos for it.
 
2013-10-25 01:09:13 AM  
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"I ain't afraid of no rolley coaster."
 
2013-10-25 07:52:46 PM  

Russ1642: I had a similar experience on the wooden coaster in Vancouver's Playland. The restraint was a single bar in front of you, at least a foot away. My knuckles were white the whole time. They had padding on structural members because people were obviously hitting them as they passed. Only rode it once but the genuine danger did add to the fun.


That sucker really whips around when you sit in the back car. I'm short, 5'5, and I felt like my head was dangerously close to all the overhang.   Did you try the crazy pendulum-like ride, beside the corkscrew, that costs extra?  It was worth the extra dough, I needed new panties after it.
 
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