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(Talking Points Memo)   Virginia GOP gubernatorial candidate, Cuccinelli, donated to pregnancy crisis centers. Who, much like this campaign, misinform visitors about the Cooch   (talkingpointsmemo.com) divider line 66
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2013-10-24 09:05:28 AM  
Isn't this guy already firmly pro-life? This is no going to hurt him.
 
2013-10-24 09:17:17 AM  

sammyk: Isn't this guy already firmly pro-life? This is no going to hurt him.


That was my thought.  Sure, these outfits are terrible and everything.  But this guy wanted to ban blowies.  This hardly even merits a "meh."
 
2013-10-24 09:38:21 AM  
This is speculation on my part so I'm quite possibly wrong, here, but I've wondered if all those ultrasound mandate bills were meant to shepherd pregnant women seeking an abortion through one of these church-run crisis counseling centers.

Anyone know if this is the case or not?
 
2013-10-24 09:39:51 AM  

sammyk: Isn't this guy already firmly pro-life? This is no going to hurt him.


Cuccinelli's major problem with voters is that he is basically losing the women's vote 53% to 34%. Anything that doesn't help him address this gap is hurting him.

http://www.quinnipiac.edu/institutes-and-centers/polling-institute/v ir ginia/release-detail?ReleaseID=1964
 
2013-10-24 09:41:35 AM  

phaseolus: This is speculation on my part so I'm quite possibly wrong, here, but I've wondered if all those ultrasound mandate bills were meant to shepherd pregnant women seeking an abortion through one of these church-run crisis counseling centers.

Anyone know if this is the case or not?


I have no evidence, but it wouldn't surprise me if there were a bit of a profit motive with all this "moral" crusade legislation.  Look what the War on Drugs has done for the privatized prison industry.
 
2013-10-24 09:42:14 AM  
Nice headline, subby.
 
2013-10-24 09:44:59 AM  

phaseolus: This is speculation on my part so I'm quite possibly wrong, here, but I've wondered if all those ultrasound mandate bills were meant to shepherd pregnant women seeking an abortion through one of these church-run crisis counseling centers.

Anyone know if this is the case or not?


Yes, it does.

News coverage of the mandatory ultrasound bill focused on the bill's initial mandate of an invasive ultrasound (later amended to mandate a trans-abdominal ultrasound) rather than on the 24-hour waiting period, a delay tactic that imposes additional costs and restricts a woman's access to abortion, or the provision buried within the law that directs the Virginia Department of Health (VDH) to publish and maintain a list of so-called no-cost ultrasound providers. The statute also compels abortion providers to present this list to any woman who enters its facility seeking termination of a pregnancy.

Since the law took effect on July 1, 2012, VDH has directly referred women to CPCs (Rex's edit: Crisis Pregnancy Centers) through its list of so-called "No Cost Ultrasound Providers." In fact, CPCs are the only facilities on VDH's so-called "No Cost Ultrasound Providers."

https://acluva.org/13587/virginias-crisis-pregnancy-centers-part-ii/
 
2013-10-24 09:45:13 AM  
His image never really recovered after his repeated bullyings of Arnold on Diff'rent Strokes.
 
2013-10-24 09:46:04 AM  

Alphax: Nice headline, subby.


Thanks! ^_^

/it makes up for the farkup Pakistan headline that I never thought would go green
 
2013-10-24 09:46:47 AM  
Too bad voters are going to abort Cuccinelli's future career ambitions in politics.
 
2013-10-24 09:47:43 AM  
Don't all men lie about the cooch?
 
2013-10-24 09:50:22 AM  
I believe in giving back to the community, so I do a lot of work with unwed mothers. You know, just helping them get their start.
 
2013-10-24 09:57:42 AM  

Leader O'Cola: Too bad voters are going to abort Cuccinelli's future career ambitions in politics.


You say that like it's a bad thing.
 
2013-10-24 10:00:29 AM  

sammyk: Isn't this guy already firmly pro-life? This is no going to hurt him.


The contest seems to revolve around the moderate voters and this issue has traditionally been a turn-off for them.
 
2013-10-24 10:06:59 AM  
Crisis Pregnancy Center: a place which says they help women seeking abortion (hoping that the women don't notice the unspoken end of that clause: help them to not abort).  Once drawn in, they proceed to lie, delay, and terrorize these women into coming around to their way of thinking.

It's almost as if they forget one of the Big 10 no-no's in the Bible was lying.  Or they do remember, but they just think a lesser evil isn't still an evil.
 
2013-10-24 10:07:35 AM  

monoski: sammyk: Isn't this guy already firmly pro-life? This is no going to hurt him.

The contest seems to revolve around the moderate voters and this issue has traditionally been a turn-off for them.


I don't know if it will hurt on election day.  More Virginia's don't like Cuccunelli but that doesn't matter.  What matters is which one can get more voters to the poll in this off year.  You might have a local board of supervisor or a Virginia legislator race this year but you might not. So the question is will this bring out more "True Believers" or more moderate voters?

As an aside, these are the two most lucky men in the state.  Cuccunelli would be destroyed by generic Democrat and McAulfe would be killed by generic Republican.  The fact that these two some how ended up in a race against each other where they both stand a chance, proves there is a devil because both had to made deals with him to get there.
 
2013-10-24 10:09:47 AM  

Karac: Crisis Pregnancy Center: a place which says they help women seeking abortion (hoping that the women don't notice the unspoken end of that clause: help them to not abort).  Once drawn in, they proceed to lie, delay, and terrorize these women into coming around to their way of thinking.

It's almost as if they forget one of the Big 10 no-no's in the Bible was lying.  Or they do remember, but they just think a lesser evil isn't still an evil.


One of the major problems with True Believers is that they become completely convinced that the ends justify the means. After all, they're doing God's Work.
 
2013-10-24 10:10:59 AM  

Diogenes: phaseolus: This is speculation on my part so I'm quite possibly wrong, here, but I've wondered if all those ultrasound mandate bills were meant to shepherd pregnant women seeking an abortion through one of these church-run crisis counseling centers.

Anyone know if this is the case or not?

I have no evidence, but it wouldn't surprise me if there were a bit of a profit motive with all this "moral" crusade legislation.  Look what the War on Drugs has done for the privatized prison industry.


Here you go. There is no doubt about it. This is a cash grab AND a moral crusade.
 
2013-10-24 10:13:36 AM  

soaboutthat: So the question is will this bring out more "True Believers" or more moderate voters?


The libertarian is drawing 10 percent in polls, but the polls also show the independent voters breaking against Coocha and for McAuilffe if they think their votes will be wasted on the turd party candidate.

It's not even close.
Cooch is going to loose handily because he's an egregious abomination of a creature.
More so than his opponent.
 
2013-10-24 10:13:44 AM  

lockers: Diogenes: phaseolus: This is speculation on my part so I'm quite possibly wrong, here, but I've wondered if all those ultrasound mandate bills were meant to shepherd pregnant women seeking an abortion through one of these church-run crisis counseling centers.

Anyone know if this is the case or not?

I have no evidence, but it wouldn't surprise me if there were a bit of a profit motive with all this "moral" crusade legislation.  Look what the War on Drugs has done for the privatized prison industry.

Here you go. There is no doubt about it. This is a cash grab AND a moral crusade.


Oh, how interesting!  Especially since I see those plates everywhere down here.
 
2013-10-24 10:15:03 AM  

RexTalionis: .

... the provision buried within the law that directs the Virginia Department of Health (VDH) to publish and maintain a list of so-called no-cost ultrasound providers. ... In fact, CPCs are the only facilities on VDH's so-called "No Cost Ultrasound Providers."

https://acluva.org/13587/virginias-crisis-pregnancy-centers-part-ii/



Thanks for finding that info
 
2013-10-24 10:25:42 AM  

HotIgneous Intruder: soaboutthat: So the question is will this bring out more "True Believers" or more moderate voters?

The libertarian is drawing 10 percent in polls, but the polls also show the independent voters breaking against Coocha and for McAuilffe if they think their votes will be wasted on the turd party candidate.

It's not even close.
Cooch is going to loose handily because he's an egregious abomination of a creature.
More so than his opponent.


I hope you're right.  I just noticed that most of the polls have a unusually high number of undecided voters, i.e. "I'll push the button for Cuccinelli in the booth but I don't want anyone to know that", and I wonder how many of the libertarian voters will actually vote for Sarvis.  If the polls are showing what they're showing and the MCauilffe voters vote Sarvis and Cuccinelli voters vote Cuccinelli...

The end is I don't think it will 17 or so points like a couple polls are showing and I hope that democrats don't sit it out thinking it's in the bag.

Also, I don't know who else is in Virginia, but how bad are both candidates commercials?  I am not talking about negative ads, they are just bad.  I want to know which PR/Marketing firm approved them because they need to be publicly shamed.

/"All my grandkids need voting instructions."
 
2013-10-24 10:25:49 AM  
Article doesn't say how many pregnant girls he donated, doesn't show receipts.
 
2013-10-24 10:29:16 AM  
For anyone who was planning to vote for the Cooch, this is a feature, not a bug.
 
2013-10-24 10:31:09 AM  
It seems they've fingered the Cooch.
 
2013-10-24 10:33:01 AM  
Small government and freedoms for the win!
 
2013-10-24 10:35:22 AM  

Karac: Crisis Pregnancy Center: a place which says they help women seeking abortion (hoping that the women don't notice the unspoken end of that clause: help them to not abort).  Once drawn in, they proceed to lie, delay, and terrorize these women into coming around to their way of thinking.

It's almost as if they forget one of the Big 10 no-no's in the Bible was lying.  Or they do remember, but they just think a lesser evil isn't still an evil.



You presume they've actually read the Bible, specifically the red words in the back half.
 
2013-10-24 10:37:06 AM  

RexTalionis: sammyk: Isn't this guy already firmly pro-life? This is no going to hurt him.

Cuccinelli's major problem with voters is that he is basically losing the women's vote 53% to 34%. Anything that doesn't help him address this gap is hurting him.

http://www.quinnipiac.edu/institutes-and-centers/polling-institute/v ir ginia/release-detail?ReleaseID=1964


One would think a politician trying to ban blowjobs would be better liked by women.
 
2013-10-24 10:38:43 AM  

RminusQ: RexTalionis: sammyk: Isn't this guy already firmly pro-life? This is no going to hurt him.

Cuccinelli's major problem with voters is that he is basically losing the women's vote 53% to 34%. Anything that doesn't help him address this gap is hurting him.

http://www.quinnipiac.edu/institutes-and-centers/polling-institute/v ir ginia/release-detail?ReleaseID=1964

One would think a politician trying to ban blowjobs would be better liked by women.


If you take away the blowjob, what leverage do these women have to ever get their closeted husbands to do down on them?
 
2013-10-24 10:39:34 AM  

Lord_Baull: Karac: Crisis Pregnancy Center: a place which says they help women seeking abortion (hoping that the women don't notice the unspoken end of that clause: help them to not abort).  Once drawn in, they proceed to lie, delay, and terrorize these women into coming around to their way of thinking.

It's almost as if they forget one of the Big 10 no-no's in the Bible was lying.  Or they do remember, but they just think a lesser evil isn't still an evil.


You presume they've actually read the Bible, specifically the red words in the back half.


That's what their pastor is for.  They got more important things to be doing, like NASCAR and hunting and beating their wives.
 
2013-10-24 10:39:47 AM  

RminusQ: RexTalionis: sammyk: Isn't this guy already firmly pro-life? This is no going to hurt him.

Cuccinelli's major problem with voters is that he is basically losing the women's vote 53% to 34%. Anything that doesn't help him address this gap is hurting him.

http://www.quinnipiac.edu/institutes-and-centers/polling-institute/v ir ginia/release-detail?ReleaseID=1964

One would think a politician trying to ban blowjobs would be better liked by women.


Cuccinelli also hates Colonel Angus.

s3.amazonaws.com
 
2013-10-24 10:40:52 AM  

RminusQ: RexTalionis: sammyk: Isn't this guy already firmly pro-life? This is no going to hurt him.

Cuccinelli's major problem with voters is that he is basically losing the women's vote 53% to 34%. Anything that doesn't help him address this gap is hurting him.

http://www.quinnipiac.edu/institutes-and-centers/polling-institute/v ir ginia/release-detail?ReleaseID=1964

One would think a politician trying to ban blowjobs would be better liked by women.


You've obviously been hanging around with the wrong women.
 
2013-10-24 10:42:58 AM  

soaboutthat: As an aside, these are the two most lucky men in the state. Cuccunelli would be destroyed by generic Democrat and McAulfe would be killed by generic Republican. The fact that these two some how ended up in a race against each other where they both stand a chance, proves there is a devil because both had to made deals with him to get there.


Sad how many elections these days are coming down to the lesser evil.
 
2013-10-24 10:47:44 AM  

soaboutthat: RminusQ: RexTalionis: sammyk: Isn't this guy already firmly pro-life? This is no going to hurt him.

Cuccinelli's major problem with voters is that he is basically losing the women's vote 53% to 34%. Anything that doesn't help him address this gap is hurting him.

http://www.quinnipiac.edu/institutes-and-centers/polling-institute/v ir ginia/release-detail?ReleaseID=1964

One would think a politician trying to ban blowjobs would be better liked by women.

If you take away the blowjob, what leverage do these women have to ever get their closeted husbands to do down on them?


He doesn't want to ban "blowjobs".  He wants to ban "sodomy".  And yes, while most women probably would appreciate being asked for bj's and anal less often, the term also include cunnilingus.
 
2013-10-24 10:51:05 AM  

RexTalionis: Cuccinelli's major problem with voters is that he is basically losing the women's vote 53% to 34%. Anything that doesn't help him address this gap is hurting him.


I saw a woman in traffic yesterday with a Cuccinelli sticker on her car.  It was also festooned with "CHOOSE LIFE" stickers, so...
 
2013-10-24 10:52:13 AM  

lockers: Here you go. There is no doubt about it. This is a cash grab AND a moral crusade.



If we can link a mistress of his going there we'd have the hat trick.
 
2013-10-24 10:56:53 AM  

blackminded: RexTalionis: Cuccinelli's major problem with voters is that he is basically losing the women's vote 53% to 34%. Anything that doesn't help him address this gap is hurting him.

I saw a woman in traffic yesterday with a Cuccinelli sticker on her car.  It was also festooned with "CHOOSE LIFE" stickers, so...


I always get a kick out of those stickers, because the operative word on them is "choose", not "have life imposed on you by government fiat".
 
2013-10-24 10:58:10 AM  

Diogenes: sammyk: Isn't this guy already firmly pro-life? This is no going to hurt him.

That was my thought.  Sure, these outfits are terrible and everything.  But this guy wanted to ban blowies.  This hardly even merits a "meh."


*open Constitution.txt*

*CRTL-F blowjob*

Phrase not found.

HA! Checkmate Libs!
 
2013-10-24 11:00:44 AM  

RexTalionis: Cuccinelli also hates Colonel Angus.


He's retired and goes by his given name now... Enol.

/great skit
 
2013-10-24 11:02:14 AM  

Karac: cunnilingus.


Take a peach and practice!

wpc.556e.edgecastcdn.net
 
2013-10-24 11:05:06 AM  
Coochylingus is going to have to find some other job in the Fundamentalist-Dominionist Derper Complex.
 
2013-10-24 11:07:30 AM  

someonelse: Karac: cunnilingus.

Take a peach and practice!

[wpc.556e.edgecastcdn.net image 450x315]


I saw a peach early enough in life that it got associated not with genitals, but instead with:
m9.i.pbase.com
a giant, rusty, fat ass hanging in the sky.
 
2013-10-24 11:09:25 AM  
Tangentially related question: how come liberal extremists never bomb "crisis pregnancy centers?"

/threadjack or threadshiat?
//let's watch
 
2013-10-24 11:09:33 AM  

Eddie Adams from Torrance: Diogenes: sammyk: Isn't this guy already firmly pro-life? This is no going to hurt him.

That was my thought.  Sure, these outfits are terrible and everything.  But this guy wanted to ban blowies.  This hardly even merits a "meh."

*open Constitution.txt*

*CRTL-F blowjob*

Phrase not found.

HA! Checkmate Libs!


Breathing is also not in the constitution.  I suggest you stop doing it.
 
2013-10-24 11:14:11 AM  

winterbraid: Tangentially related question: how come liberal extremists never bomb "crisis pregnancy centers?"


Cuz, that's like work, man!
 
2013-10-24 11:16:57 AM  

MadHatter500: Eddie Adams from Torrance: Diogenes: sammyk: Isn't this guy already firmly pro-life? This is no going to hurt him.

That was my thought.  Sure, these outfits are terrible and everything.  But this guy wanted to ban blowies.  This hardly even merits a "meh."

*open Constitution.txt*

*CRTL-F blowjob*

Phrase not found.

HA! Checkmate Libs!

Breathing is also not in the constitution.  I suggest you stop doing it.


Also although the constitution is silent on the subject, the Dec. of Independence sure has it. The Dec. Has the phrase "Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness"  I am sure many would call this blowjobs the ultimate in "pursuit of Happiness"
 
2013-10-24 11:33:33 AM  

winterbraid: Tangentially related question: how come liberal extremists never bomb "crisis pregnancy centers?"

/threadjack or threadshiat?
//let's watch


Because only pro-lifers can get worked up enough to start killing people. If you are pro-life then you see abortion as state approved mass murder that kills thousands of people every year. In that situation killing the mass murderers can seem perfectly reasonable.

Pro-choicers see abortion as a right to medical services. It's bad that people get denied but it's not something most people would see as worth killing over.
 
2013-10-24 11:43:40 AM  

blackminded: RexTalionis: Cuccinelli's major problem with voters is that he is basically losing the women's vote 53% to 34%. Anything that doesn't help him address this gap is hurting him.

I saw a woman in traffic yesterday with a Cuccinelli sticker on her car.  It was also festooned with "CHOOSE LIFE" stickers, so...


I was behind a car with a sticker that read, "I'm Catholic and I vote."  WTF is that supposed to mean?  I had a threatlike vibe to it.  Does it mean that he votes to protect the poor?  or slut-shame women? or hide child-raping priests?
 
2013-10-24 11:46:04 AM  

RexTalionis: sammyk: Isn't this guy already firmly pro-life? This is no going to hurt him.

Cuccinelli's major problem with voters is that he is basically losing the women's vote 53% to 34%. Anything that doesn't help him address this gap is hurting him.

http://www.quinnipiac.edu/institutes-and-centers/polling-institute/v ir ginia/release-detail?ReleaseID=1964


But have those numbers been unskewed? I bet if they were to be unskewed, Cuccinelli would be winning women by 69%-31%.

/this is what some in the GOP actually believe
//number chosen for irony
 
2013-10-24 11:49:02 AM  

RminusQ: RexTalionis: sammyk: Isn't this guy already firmly pro-life? This is no going to hurt him.

Cuccinelli's major problem with voters is that he is basically losing the women's vote 53% to 34%. Anything that doesn't help him address this gap is hurting him.

http://www.quinnipiac.edu/institutes-and-centers/polling-institute/v ir ginia/release-detail?ReleaseID=1964

One would think a politician trying to ban blowjobs would be better liked by women.


You obviously never met my wife, bless her heart!
 
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