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(BBC)   Pakistan, who has spent the last week and most of the President's visit, biatching about US drone strikes despite knowing all about the strikes taking place. Oops   (bbc.co.uk) divider line 39
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2013-10-24 09:00:19 AM
Commas and subject/verb agreement...how do those things work again?
 
hej
2013-10-24 09:01:46 AM
Jeebus Kreest that headline was painful.
 
2013-10-24 09:01:58 AM
Subby, if I ever catch you advocating English as the national language...
 
2013-10-24 09:05:06 AM
Subby this, is just a horrible headline.  Just horrible I, say
 
2013-10-24 09:06:20 AM
But, aside from knowingly harboring Osama bin Laden and clearly knowing who's responsible for the Bhenazir Bhutto assassination, when has Pakistan's ruling class every acted in a disingenuous fashion?
 
2013-10-24 09:07:08 AM
Nice word-salad headline there.
 
2013-10-24 09:08:38 AM
Such as the Iraq, subby?
 
2013-10-24 09:09:21 AM
Withdraw the drones from Pakistan and use them on the headline instead.
 
2013-10-24 09:10:49 AM

the_foo: Subby, if I ever catch you advocating English as the national offical language...


FTFY
 
2013-10-24 09:11:00 AM

EyeballKid: But, aside from knowingly harboring Osama bin Laden and clearly knowing who's responsible for the Bhenazir Bhutto assassination, when has Pakistan's ruling class every acted in a disingenuous fashion?


How clearly?

Last I heard we just had them on, "they's SOBs, 'course they know."  But I wouldn't be surprised if something more solid has come to light that I missed.
 
2013-10-24 09:11:36 AM
Obvious tag was waiting in the wings
 
2013-10-24 09:11:52 AM
If you take the word "who" and the comma after Pakistan out of the headline, it sounds much better.
 
2013-10-24 09:15:58 AM
in the provinces where the strikes are actually taking place, support for the drone strikes is actually high.

http://www.economist.com/news/asia/21588142-surprising-number-pakist an is-are-favour-drone-strikes-drop-pilot
 
2013-10-24 09:17:58 AM
Someone put that headline through a Salad-Spinner.
 
2013-10-24 09:19:43 AM

TheBigJerk: Last I heard we just had them on, "they's SOBs, 'course they know."  But I wouldn't be surprised if something more solid has come to light that I missed.


I don't have concrete proof at hand myself, but Musharraf's denying Bhutto the protection she has requested following the first attempt on her life combined with his assertion that it was her fault for getting killed ("I mean, just look at what she's wearing! She's virtually asking for it!") just solidifies my belief that the fat weasel Musharraf knew of the bomb that killed her ahead of time.
 
2013-10-24 09:33:40 AM
Wow, Subby, did you not make it through high school or something?
 
2013-10-24 09:38:43 AM
Heavy burtations.
 
2013-10-24 09:41:05 AM
Shakah, when the walls fell?
 
2013-10-24 09:42:36 AM
Pakistan, who has spent the last week and most of the President's visit, biatching about US drone strikes, despite knowing all about the strikes taking place. Oops
 
2013-10-24 10:27:24 AM
Has anyone mentioned that subby don't, write good?
 
2013-10-24 10:28:46 AM
go bacl to skool, subtard, and learn to write a sentence.
 
2013-10-24 10:29:35 AM
so the Pakistani leadership is a bunch of two-faced liars?  File this under old news....
 
2013-10-24 10:50:32 AM
Countries that can't or won't police large swaths of lawless territory that harbor violent extremists within their borders don't really get to biatch about violations of sovreignty. I say increase the drone strikes until they stop being a duplicitous third-rate nation.
 
2013-10-24 10:53:26 AM

Zeno-25: Countries that can't or won't police large swaths of lawless territory that harbor violent extremists within their borders don't really get to biatch about violations of sovreignty. I say increase the drone strikes until they stop being a duplicitous third-rate nation.


So, when do the drones start targeting the Confederate states?
 
2013-10-24 11:00:35 AM

Maul555: so the Pakistani leadership is a bunch of two-faced liars?  File this under old news....


and then send them their check to keep looking the other way while we blow up their citizens.
 
2013-10-24 11:07:28 AM

PanicMan: Pakistan has spent the last week and most of the President's visit biatching about US drone strikes despite knowing all about the strikes taking place.


Okay, I tried to fix it above.
I almost understood it in this form. Do you mean Pakistan was complaining about stuff happening that they weren't aware of and they should have been told first, but secretly they were aware of them? So they were hypocritical to complain? And a nation's leader being a hypocrite is worthy of discussion?

Because at first, I thought "Well Pakistan can't complain about something if it didn't know it happened." Like my dad never complained about his porn going missing when I was a teenager because he didn't notice. You gotta notice it in order to biatch about it. Like the level in my dad's whiskey bottles going down. THAT, he noticed.
 
2013-10-24 11:27:28 AM

SurfaceTension: Commas and subject/verb agreement...how do those things work again?


hej: Jeebus Kreest that headline was painful.


you guys just don't get it. the headline is a crime against language about a crime against humanity. that is so meta.
 
2013-10-24 11:29:20 AM
I'm glad to see others are offended as I am about the headline.

/And fark you, Pakistan, you Bin Laden protecting bastards.
 
2013-10-24 11:29:44 AM
Arghhh! Call in a drone strike on that mess of a headline.

But seriously, This is not exactly breaking news. Pakistan has been saying one thing publicly and privately giving the US names and targets in many cases. Their biggest complaint is not even the sovereignty thing, but that we won't share the drone technology with them.*

*Not at all an endorsement of the drone strikes themselves.
 
2013-10-24 12:22:49 PM

EyeballKid: Zeno-25: Countries that can't or won't police large swaths of lawless territory that harbor violent extremists within their borders don't really get to biatch about violations of sovreignty. I say increase the drone strikes until they stop being a duplicitous third-rate nation.

So, when do the drones start targeting the Confederate states?


If only.
 
2013-10-24 12:29:53 PM
Oh, what a shock, Pakistanis are liars.

Having traveled a bit in the region - backpacked from Bombay (name at the time) to Calcutta by way of Nepal - all of the people in that area are liars.  Whenever I asked for directions, I would ask 5-7 different people and then average their answers to get what may be the highest likelihood of the direction I needed to go.  It's the culture.  Truth is not really expected to have any value.

It's like they are an entire country of Teabaggers except Muslim/Hindu and probably better educated.
 
2013-10-24 12:34:55 PM

rosebud_the_sled: Oh, what a shock, Pakistanis are liars.

Having traveled a bit in the region - backpacked from Bombay (name at the time) to Calcutta by way of Nepal - all of the people in that area are liars.  Whenever I asked for directions, I would ask 5-7 different people and then average their answers to get what may be the highest likelihood of the direction I needed to go.  It's the culture.  Truth is not really expected to have any value.

It's like they are an entire country of Teabaggers except Muslim/Hindu and probably better educated.


lparchive.org
 
2013-10-24 12:43:01 PM
I just don't understand why Pakistan, as our ally, cannot trust us and support us in these endeavors. I was
just listening in on a phone conversation between Prime Minister Di Rupo and Chancellor Merkel
and they agree that all our allies need to support us on this.
 
2013-10-24 01:07:29 PM
www.bitlogic.com
 
2013-10-24 03:54:58 PM
They are also deeply unpopular with the Pakistani public

No shiat! Really? People don't like being killed?

This changes everything.
 
2013-10-24 10:34:13 PM

Tyrone Slothrop: I'm glad to see others are offended as I am about the headline.

/And fark you, Pakistan, you Bin Laden protecting bastards.


Pakistan was getting C-130's full of money for helping us look for bin Laden. Literally, crates of cash were arriving daily from the US in the name of "helping" us find bin Laden. Of course, as soon as we found him, it was pretty explicitly stated that money would dry up. So is it any surprise to anyone that Pakistan's secret police somehow were never able to find him? (Except to the CIA, apparently)

Same thing here--our drones are handily exterminating a lot of troublemakers and terrorists in remote areas of Pakistan which the government cannot or will not handle themselves. You think they're really upset that our money and hardware (and public opinion) handling THEIR problems? Hell no! If anyone bothered to think about it for ten seconds, they'd realize that it's unlikely we're violating sovereign airspace on a daily basis WITHOUT notifying the Pakistani government...we're not that subversive. They were probably supplying the coordinates and targeting data.

Why people are surprised about this is beyond me. Except that everyone thinks somehow there are rules in warfare.
 
2013-10-25 12:09:34 AM
You know, there are Paksitanis on this forum.  I'm one of them.  And while I'm not supportive of the leadership in Pakistan, perhaps it is time to take a reality check and understand that trying to police the northern provinces is a clusterfark and a half.
Paksitani soldiers have laid down their lives to the tune of over 5,000 casualties in combat operation in North Western Pakistan alone.  Approximately 3.5 million civilians have been displaced, and a further 15-25,000 have been killed due to terrorist attacks and military operations.
The Afghan-Pakistani border is particularly porous due to the semi-nomadic nature of a large part of the population living in the area.
So, fark you Rosebud, and the rest of you knee-jerk reactionary assholes who sit thousands of miles away decrying a people for doing nothing while they die by the tens of thousands that they neither started, nor wanted.
 
2013-10-25 12:11:49 AM
Also, apparently I'm channeling subby's writing style.  The last sentence should read:

So, fark you Rosebud, and the rest of you knee-jerk reactionary assholes who sit thousands of miles away decrying a people for doing nothing while they die by the tens of thousands in a war they neither started, nor wanted.

FTFM
 
2013-10-25 12:16:13 AM
Everything I need to know about Islam I learned from OP's headline
 
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