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(United Liberty)   CISPA is back. This is not a repeat from April   (unitedliberty.org) divider line 91
    More: Scary, CISPA, Feinstein, Internet activist, Justin Amash, Chambliss, Protection Act, Cyber Intelligence Sharing, United States House Committee on Rules  
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2013-10-24 07:03:20 AM  
It's almost like bills never die they just wait in committee.
 
2013-10-24 07:07:34 AM  
Every time the internet celebrated I knew the powers that be weren't done. Eventually they'll win and they know it. It is just too hard to keep up that kind of grass roots opposition.
 
2013-10-24 07:52:37 AM  

EvilEgg: Every time the internet celebrated I knew the powers that be weren't done. Eventually they'll win and they know it. It is just too hard to keep up that kind of grass roots opposition.


Though, if there's anyone who CAN pull it off, it's the internet community.
 
2013-10-24 07:55:57 AM  
Rep. Justin Amash (R-MI) offered amendments that would have strengthened Internet privacy, but they were voted down in the House Rules Committee. The rejection of those amendments meant that Internet service providers could not guarantee or promise to protect your Internet privacy.

In light of what the NSA is up to, does this even farking matter?
 
2013-10-24 07:58:30 AM  
How else would we accurately out the Republican trolls around here?

/just kidding
//maybe not
///how would you know?
 
2013-10-24 08:05:00 AM  
I'll never vote R again with their crazy mess. Feinstein is doing her best to add D to that. We need a peoples party tat looks out for us rather than businesses.
 
2013-10-24 08:10:02 AM  
This could be good and save lots of money. NSA could layoff 90% of its US surveillance team and just buy the day from offshore brokers.
 
2013-10-24 08:10:15 AM  
On the plus side, getting anything at all through Congress is all but impossible now, and Obama threatened a veto already.
 
2013-10-24 08:11:19 AM  

Alphax: On the plus side, getting anything at all through Congress is all but impossible now, and Obama threatened a veto already.


He did?
 
2013-10-24 08:17:26 AM  
CISPA will come back again and  again, perhaps with different names, until is passes.  It will pass at some point.
 
2013-10-24 08:18:42 AM  

EvilEgg: Every time the internet celebrated I knew the powers that be weren't done. Eventually they'll win and they know it. It is just too hard to keep up that kind of grass roots opposition.


Then we need to expand the grass roots opposition from opposing bills, to opposing candidates.  Take any politician who keeps spamming bills we don't like and throw them out on their ass, and the rest will fall in line.
 
2013-10-24 08:20:34 AM  
More [obvious] than [scary].  The multinationals made their decision, and it's just a matter of time before it becomes law.
 
2013-10-24 08:22:15 AM  
Fark Dianne Feinstein.
 
2013-10-24 08:22:18 AM  
Will you like it with a fox, will you like it in a box?

It's not good enough that the NSA spies on us. Now companies want to pay congress to get that right too. Unlike the NSA, they also want the power to jump out of the shadows and reach into your wallet.

fark these farking lobbyists.

Alphax:  Obama threatened a veto already.


Why should anyone compete with the NSA?
 
2013-10-24 08:23:28 AM  

bluenovaman: I'll never vote R again with their crazy mess. Feinstein is doing her best to add D to that. We need a peoples party tat looks out for us rather than businesses.


The fact that the Democratic party is practically a subsidiary of the entertainment industry isn't the sort of thing that penetrates the echo chamber.
 
2013-10-24 08:29:55 AM  
Maybe Ted Cruze or Rand Paul could do another filibuster.
 
2013-10-24 08:34:55 AM  
It's on heavy rotation with the defunding ObamaCare bill.
 
2013-10-24 08:37:08 AM  

Smoking GNU: Alphax: On the plus side, getting anything at all through Congress is all but impossible now, and Obama threatened a veto already.

He did?


He did last time this was up.  Hopefully he sticks to his guns.
 
2013-10-24 08:37:11 AM  
Why don't they just make being born a crime, issue a prison number at birth and surround the entire country in razor ribbon? Would we be safe enough for our own good then, do you suppose?
 
2013-10-24 08:38:34 AM  

GoldSpider: bluenovaman: I'll never vote R again with their crazy mess. Feinstein is doing her best to add D to that. We need a peoples party tat looks out for us rather than businesses.

The fact that the Democratic party is practically a subsidiary of the entertainment industry isn't the sort of thing that penetrates the echo chamber.


I'm a lefty and fully aware that the Democrats are influenced by outside money just as much as the Republicans.

I'm not particularly fond of most of the dems in office but I'll be damned if I'm going to vote for the farking nut jobs on the right.

/BSABBNEB
 
2013-10-24 08:39:53 AM  
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2013-10-24 08:40:45 AM  
Christ I hate people.
 
2013-10-24 08:40:57 AM  

GoldSpider: bluenovaman: I'll never vote R again with their crazy mess. Feinstein is doing her best to add D to that. We need a peoples party tat looks out for us rather than businesses.

The fact that the Democratic party is practically a subsidiary of the entertainment industry isn't the sort of thing that penetrates the echo chamber.


Right, of course.  Fark is an echo chamber.  That's why this thread, and every thread, is nothing but praise for Democrats. and anybody who ever says a bad thing about a Democrat or a good thing about a Republican is banned immediately.

Or, you're just acquiring the standard-issue right-wing persecution complex.  Which is a shame, because you're usually better than that.
 
2013-10-24 08:45:08 AM  

GoldSpider: bluenovaman: I'll never vote R again with their crazy mess. Feinstein is doing her best to add D to that. We need a peoples party tat looks out for us rather than businesses.

The fact that the Democratic party is practically a subsidiary of the entertainment industry isn't the sort of thing that penetrates the echo chamber.


So vote Republican.
 
2013-10-24 08:51:12 AM  

HotWingConspiracy: Rep. Justin Amash (R-MI) offered amendments that would have strengthened Internet privacy, but they were voted down in the House Rules Committee. The rejection of those amendments meant that Internet service providers could not guarantee or promise to protect your Internet privacy.

In light of what the NSA is up to, does this even farking matter?


The NSA has been pretty good about keeping your information private; multinationals aren't going to take the same care.
 
2013-10-24 08:54:16 AM  

HeartBurnKid: Right, of course.  Fark is an echo chamber.  That's why this thread, and every thread, is nothing but praise for Democrats. and anybody who ever says a bad thing about a Democrat or a good thing about a Republican is banned immediately.


No.
That's not here, but it is places like BoingBoing and many liberal blogs.
 
2013-10-24 08:54:34 AM  

Lee Jackson Beauregard: GoldSpider: bluenovaman: I'll never vote R again with their crazy mess. Feinstein is doing her best to add D to that. We need a peoples party tat looks out for us rather than businesses.

The fact that the Democratic party is practically a subsidiary of the entertainment industry isn't the sort of thing that penetrates the echo chamber.

So vote Republican

Tea Party.
 
2013-10-24 08:57:53 AM  

badhatharry: Lee Jackson Beauregard: GoldSpider: bluenovaman: I'll never vote R again with their crazy mess. Feinstein is doing her best to add D to that. We need a peoples party tat looks out for us rather than businesses.

The fact that the Democratic party is practically a subsidiary of the entertainment industry isn't the sort of thing that penetrates the echo chamber.

So vote Republican Tea Party

Charles Manson.
 
2013-10-24 09:01:45 AM  

HeartBurnKid: Smoking GNU: Alphax: On the plus side, getting anything at all through Congress is all but impossible now, and Obama threatened a veto already.

He did?

He did last time this was up.  Hopefully he sticks to his guns.


Hahahahaha
 
2013-10-24 09:07:17 AM  
Why don't the majors like google and yahoo just deny gov IPs access to their sites?

Since net neutrality and all is being taken down.
 
2013-10-24 09:08:14 AM  

HeartBurnKid: That's why this thread, and every thread, is nothing but praise for Democrats.


I'll admit that when it comes to the "It's not so bad when MY side does it", this thread has been a notable exception.
 
2013-10-24 09:09:03 AM  

Wake Up Sheeple: How else would we accurately out the Republican trolls around here?

/just kidding
//maybe not
///how would you know?


Just read their posts, the ones that are completely idiotic are the Republican trolls...
 
2013-10-24 09:11:33 AM  
But of course it is. Because we can never have too much spying. Besides what do you have to hide?
 
2013-10-24 09:14:48 AM  
so good to see bi-partisan cooperation

so bad to see what subjects get bi-partisan cooperation
 
2013-10-24 09:17:08 AM  
EvilEgg
Every time the internet celebrated I knew the powers that be weren't done. Eventually they'll win and they know it. It is just too hard to keep up that kind of grass roots opposition.

The problem is this idea of "opposition". When you're the Opposition, you're not in power. Instead of begging for favors and/or mercy, we need to be thinking in terms of how we're going to create a situation in which they're not capable of pulling this kind of bullshiat on us.
 
2013-10-24 09:19:46 AM  
If the federal government wants all my health records, fine.  But my browsing history?  No way!

Seriously though, it's the government.  They know what's best for us.

/now run along and buy some insurance before we decide to fine you.
 
2013-10-24 09:24:44 AM  
After quite speculation at the end of last month, Mother Jones reported on Monday

Stopped reading right there
 
2013-10-24 09:30:01 AM  

HotIgneous Intruder: HeartBurnKid: Right, of course.  Fark is an echo chamber.  That's why this thread, and every thread, is nothing but praise for Democrats. and anybody who ever says a bad thing about a Democrat or a good thing about a Republican is banned immediately.

No.
That's not here, but it is places like BoingBoing and many liberal blogs.


Yeah. I know that all of the liberals here aren't Democrats. There's also been a healthy amount of criticism for Obama. I vote D but that's only because my preference isn't on the ballot.
 
2013-10-24 09:39:43 AM  

AspectRatio: After quite speculation at the end of last month, Mother Jones reported on Monday

Stopped reading right there


Really?  You were stopped by a simple and common transpositional typo?
 
2013-10-24 09:40:46 AM  

RanDomino: EvilEgg
Every time the internet celebrated I knew the powers that be weren't done. Eventually they'll win and they know it. It is just too hard to keep up that kind of grass roots opposition.

The problem is this idea of "opposition". When you're the Opposition, you're not in power. Instead of begging for favors and/or mercy, we need to be thinking in terms of how we're going to create a situation in which they're not capable of pulling this kind of bullshiat on us.


This.  And if you're looking for a technological answer, well, there almost certainly isn't one.
 
2013-10-24 09:52:57 AM  
Democrats and Republicans working together.  This is sure to be bad for people.
 
2013-10-24 10:04:20 AM  

GoldSpider: HeartBurnKid: That's why this thread, and every thread, is nothing but praise for Democrats.

I'll admit that when it comes to the "It's not so bad when MY side does it", this thread has been a notable exception.


Right, of course.  There are all these other threads that are filled with worshipful comments about Democrats in general, right?

Let me break this to you gently:  I've been here a long time, and in that time, I've found that Fark isn't an anything echo chamber.  During the Bush years, there was, IMHO, a pretty significant Republican lean to the commenters here. Over time, many of them have disappeared, and many more have switched sides completely since about 2005 or so.  You do have a few diehard Democrat boosters around here, as well as a few diehard Republican boosters, but on the whole, I've found that Fark is much like the general population.  Just a little bit smarter, a lot less tactful, and about a year ahead of the public opinion curve.  If you think it's turned into a liberal echo chamber, that last one should scare the piss out of you.
 
2013-10-24 10:20:43 AM  

FarkedOver: Democrats and Republicans working together.  This is sure to be bad for people.


It usually is when they are.  Usually.

Remember that "Checks and balances" is a way to nicely say "roadblocks and gridlock, so the fall into tyranny is as slow as possible".
 
2013-10-24 10:23:29 AM  
Can it be considered spying if no one ever views the data?
 
2013-10-24 10:31:56 AM  

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2013-10-24 10:32:44 AM  

Lee Jackson Beauregard: GoldSpider: bluenovaman: I'll never vote R again with their crazy mess. Feinstein is doing her best to add D to that. We need a peoples party tat looks out for us rather than businesses.

The fact that the Democratic party is practically a subsidiary of the entertainment industry isn't the sort of thing that penetrates the echo chamber.

So vote Republican.


I'll never vote R, or Tea Party, they both have too much macaroni in their pants.
 
2013-10-24 10:40:44 AM  

Tarl3k: Wake Up Sheeple: How else would we accurately out the Republican trolls around here?

/just kidding
//maybe not
///how would you know?

Just read their posts, the ones that are completely idiotic are the Republican trolls...


Not that way.
 
2013-10-24 10:41:59 AM  

dittybopper: AspectRatio: After quite speculation at the end of last month, Mother Jones reported on Monday

Stopped reading right there

Really?  You were stopped by a simple and common transpositional typo?


Actually I should have stopped reading at "United Liberty", but yes.

I also throw away résumés with typos. It reveals a lack of basic attention to detail.
 
2013-10-24 10:43:57 AM  
Feinstein is always wrong about everything.
 
2013-10-24 10:46:03 AM  

AspectRatio: It reveals a lack of basic attention to detail


Obsessive attention to detail is the leading indicator of a small minded dullard.
 
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