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(AZ Family)   Today's first world problem: Resident living next to a golf course are outraged after the course closes and a barbed wire fence is put around the course. "I personally enjoy nature. I like to go out there and walk my dog and stuff"   (azfamily.com ) divider line
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ZAZ [TotalFark]
2013-10-24 09:21:39 AM  
Neighbors have hired a lawyer to help them get back their view.

In my first world state there was a court case with the opposite aim. A neighbor sued to have a fence put up. They didn't want golf balls landing in their yard. The neighbor won. You can move next to a golf course and sue to stop balls landing in your yard. Stray golf balls are a trespass rather than a nuisance. If your property is a nuisance you may be able to say "you bought your ticket, you knew what you were getting into." The preexisting condition exception is not available in the case of a physical trespass.
 
2013-10-24 09:50:43 AM  
It's kind of a joke/shame that these people think an overgrown golf course is "nature". You live in Arizona. The state is literally mostly undeveloped nature. Get out of your shiatty subdivision and go hiking, you morons.
 
2013-10-24 09:50:47 AM  
Wouldn't that be more a "sliding into 2nd world" problem?
 
2013-10-24 09:51:39 AM  

ZAZ: Neighbors have hired a lawyer to help them get back their view.

In my first world state there was a court case with the opposite aim. A neighbor sued to have a fence put up. They didn't want golf balls landing in their yard. The neighbor won. You can move next to a golf course and sue to stop balls landing in your yard. Stray golf balls are a trespass rather than a nuisance. If your property is a nuisance you may be able to say "you bought your ticket, you knew what you were getting into." The preexisting condition exception is not available in the case of a physical trespass.


I'd try charging the golf balls with criminal trespass.  The only major complication, I suppose, is that golf balls rarely carry IDs, and almost never give in to interrogation.
 
2013-10-24 09:51:41 AM  
a far bigger issue is that subby used course three times in a sentence.

/disappointed, of Tunbridge Wells
 
2013-10-24 09:55:55 AM  
You say you are paying extra for the view, who are you paying?

If those funds you are paying are going towards the golf course and it's owners (some kind of fee or membership) then you have a leg to stand on.  If by "extra" you mean that your property was just more expensive because you are near the golf course, you are out of luck.
 
2013-10-24 09:56:01 AM  

Nightjars: ZAZ: Neighbors have hired a lawyer to help them get back their view.

In my first world state there was a court case with the opposite aim. A neighbor sued to have a fence put up. They didn't want golf balls landing in their yard. The neighbor won. You can move next to a golf course and sue to stop balls landing in your yard. Stray golf balls are a trespass rather than a nuisance. If your property is a nuisance you may be able to say "you bought your ticket, you knew what you were getting into." The preexisting condition exception is not available in the case of a physical trespass.

I'd try charging the golf balls with criminal trespass.  The only major complication, I suppose, is that golf balls rarely carry IDs, and almost never give in to interrogation.



www.dotgolf.com

 I've always found an ID on golf balls.
And if you want information, just squeeze them a bit.
 
2013-10-24 09:57:42 AM  
Do people in third world countries like living by barbed wire fences?
 
2013-10-24 09:59:20 AM  

"I personally enjoy nature. I like to go out there and walk my dog and stuff. I don't care if it's open or closed," said Radabaugh.

Now neighbors can't access the very golf course they pay extra to live by.


He's upset because he can no longer trespass on someone else's property. Bummer.

"Paying to live by" is not the same as "paying to use".
 
2013-10-24 10:02:58 AM  

Abe Vigoda's Ghost: Nightjars: ZAZ: Neighbors have hired a lawyer to help them get back their view.

In my first world state there was a court case with the opposite aim. A neighbor sued to have a fence put up. They didn't want golf balls landing in their yard. The neighbor won. You can move next to a golf course and sue to stop balls landing in your yard. Stray golf balls are a trespass rather than a nuisance. If your property is a nuisance you may be able to say "you bought your ticket, you knew what you were getting into." The preexisting condition exception is not available in the case of a physical trespass.

I'd try charging the golf balls with criminal trespass.  The only major complication, I suppose, is that golf balls rarely carry IDs, and almost never give in to interrogation.


[www.dotgolf.com image 500x500]

 I've always found an ID on golf balls.
And if you want information, just squeeze them a bit.


that logo should say EN-titleist, amirite?
 
2013-10-24 10:05:14 AM  
I don't understand why they put up the fence. If you aren't actively taking card of a golf course it just becomes a field. It's not like there are a lot of vandalism opportunities on an abandoned golf course.

This fence strikes me more as a spite fence to get back at those neighbors for something.
 
2013-10-24 10:05:17 AM  
If the neighborhood wants to keep the course ope, they'd best pony up some cash and buy it from the current owner. Otherwise, whoever does will grease whatever palms are necessary on the zoning board to put up more McMansions or, in the ultimate twist of irony, an 'affordable housing' subdivision.
 
2013-10-24 10:05:38 AM  

Lady J: a far bigger issue is that subby used course three times in a sentence.


And has problems with subject/verb agreement.

/Resident are outraged?
 
2013-10-24 10:09:48 AM  
The only thing further from nature than a golf course is a Walmart parking lot.
 
2013-10-24 10:10:26 AM  

To The Escape Zeppelin!: I don't understand why they put up the fence. If you aren't actively taking card of a golf course it just becomes a field. It's not like there are a lot of vandalism opportunities on an abandoned golf course.

This fence strikes me more as a spite fence to get back at those neighbors for something.


But if 12 year old Billy Newquad flips his bike and becomes a vegetable, his parents will sue you for letting him ride there.  It's a vicious circle.
 
2013-10-24 10:12:19 AM  

offacue: It's a vicious circle.

 
2013-10-24 10:16:03 AM  
I guess it is time to give up trying to educate on what First, Second, and Third World actually means isn't it?
 
2013-10-24 10:18:44 AM  
and the sign says anybody caught trespassing will be shot on sight So I jumped the fence and I yelled at the house
Eh, what gives you the right?    "I personally enjoy nature. I like to go out there and walk my dog and stuff"
 
2013-10-24 10:21:28 AM  

To The Escape Zeppelin!: I don't understand why they put up the fence. If you aren't actively taking card of a golf course it just becomes a field. It's not like there are a lot of vandalism opportunities on an abandoned golf course.

This fence strikes me more as a spite fence to get back at those neighbors for something.


It's a field owned by somebody else and they don't want you on it.
 
2013-10-24 10:21:29 AM  

Englebert Slaptyback: "I personally enjoy nature. I like to go out there and walk my dog and stuff. I don't care if it's open or closed," said Radabaugh.

Now neighbors can't access the very golf course they pay extra to live by.


He's upset because he can no longer trespass on someone else's property. Bummer.

"Paying to live by" is not the same as "paying to use".


Came to say this.  Why use the sad tag?  These people had no right to trespass on the golf course...
 
2013-10-24 10:22:10 AM  
"I just want to let my dog shiat on your property, what gives?"
 
2013-10-24 10:23:29 AM  

To The Escape Zeppelin!: I don't understand why they put up the fence. If you aren't actively taking card of a golf course it just becomes a field. It's not like there are a lot of vandalism opportunities on an abandoned golf course.

This fence strikes me more as a spite fence to get back at those neighbors for something.


It is more of a liability issue more than a concern of vandalism

Someone owns that property (even if it is not open).  If someone walks onto the course and injures themselves (especially if it is due to some field maintenance issue like a gopher hole) then that owner could get sued.
 
2013-10-24 10:25:51 AM  
Sorry, but only a douche (IMO of course) buys a house on a golf course then biatches about golfers (or balls) coming into their yard.  If you live on a golf course, it's pretty much standard to have this happen....if you don't want golfers in your yard, don't buy a house on a golf course.

When the wife and I were looking for a house, we never considered *anything* on a golf course for this exact reason.

However, if someone says "the only houses available were on the golf course"...OK, ya got me there.  Otherwise....
 
2013-10-24 10:30:11 AM  
I would be pissed too, house just dropped bigtime in value. That's the way cookie crumbles sometimes.
 
2013-10-24 10:31:21 AM  

buzzcut73: If the neighborhood wants to keep the course ope, they'd best pony up some cash and buy it from the current owner. Otherwise, whoever does will grease whatever palms are necessary on the zoning board to put up more McMansions or, in the ultimate twist of irony, an 'affordable housing' subdivision.


This is very true. They need to stop worrying about the fence and start worrying about who is going to buy the golf course and what they're going to do with it. I bought a house in a development next to a closed golf course (I was smart enough not to pay more to buy a house backing up to 'nature')... the course had been locked up with the neighborhood association in courts for years because the people who bought it were developers who essentially go around the country buying up closed golf courses and redeveloping them into high density McMansions and townhomes and what not. Luckily, the original deed restrictions regarding the golf course prevented that sort of redevelopment but those restrictions have to be enforced in court. Eventually, the local water/drainage authority was able to purchase it for use as greenspace / drainage abatement [there was a bayou/creek running through it]...

But yeah, the fence is the LEAST of these people's problems. They need to be thinking two steps ahead... who is going to buy it and what are they going to do with it. If they want to keep the green space they need to look into buying it.
 
2013-10-24 10:33:33 AM  

James!: "I just want to let my dog shiat on your property, what gives?"


Yeah, because dogsh*t is the most noxious substance known to mankind ever illegally 'dumped'.  Good thing all the dogs have been killed off, or humans would've never survived that one!

/I do clean up after my dog (in parks and suburban areas, hard as you may find that to believe)
 
2013-10-24 10:39:08 AM  

Nightjars: I'd try charging the golf balls with criminal trespass. The only major complication, I suppose, is that golf balls rarely carry IDs, and almost never give in to interrogation.


I live across the street from a golf course. My neighbors that back up to it don't mind a few golf balls in their yard (as long as the course pays for any broken windows). But there's always that idiot a few times a month that jumps over the fence and tries to play his ball out of their yard.
 
2013-10-24 10:40:54 AM  

Cold_Sassy: James!: "I just want to let my dog shiat on your property, what gives?"

Yeah, because dogsh*t is the most noxious substance known to mankind ever illegally 'dumped'.  Good thing all the dogs have been killed off, or humans would've never survived that one!

/I do clean up after my dog (in parks and suburban areas, hard as you may find that to believe)


I'm amused that my comment personally offended you. I ALSO pick up after my dog.
 
2013-10-24 10:45:14 AM  

NewWorldDan: Nightjars: I'd try charging the golf balls with criminal trespass. The only major complication, I suppose, is that golf balls rarely carry IDs, and almost never give in to interrogation.

I live across the street from a golf course. My neighbors that back up to it don't mind a few golf balls in their yard (as long as the course pays for any broken windows). But there's always that idiot a few times a month that jumps over the fence and tries to play his ball out of their yard.


A motion sensor sprinkler, system along with cameras would be amusing here.
 
2013-10-24 10:47:29 AM  
FTFA:  He says the owner put up the fence because of liability.

Perfectly understandable, considering our litigious society...  Sure, might still be a cop-out, but it's believable.
 
2013-10-24 10:51:32 AM  
Just cut a hole in the fence.  How long would that take?
 
2013-10-24 10:53:57 AM  

CrazyCracka420: Englebert Slaptyback: "I personally enjoy nature. I like to go out there and walk my dog and stuff. I don't care if it's open or closed," said Radabaugh.

Now neighbors can't access the very golf course they pay extra to live by.


He's upset because he can no longer trespass on someone else's property. Bummer.

"Paying to live by" is not the same as "paying to use".

Came to say this.  Why use the sad tag?  These people had no right to trespass on the golf course...



I  am surprised on occasion how some people in my area will trespass.... then are stunned when someone asks them not to.    It is as if they are entitled to walk themselves, their pets or whatever on other peoples property whenever they want.
 
2013-10-24 11:05:33 AM  

James!: Cold_Sassy: James!: "I just want to let my dog shiat on your property, what gives?"

Yeah, because dogsh*t is the most noxious substance known to mankind ever illegally 'dumped'.  Good thing all the dogs have been killed off, or humans would've never survived that one!

/I do clean up after my dog (in parks and suburban areas, hard as you may find that to believe)

I'm amused that my comment personally offended you. I ALSO pick up after my dog.


It didn't really offend me.  I'm just saying have you seen the air in China?  or the Ganges River? or the BP Oil slicks?  I could go on and on.  You just sounded like some non-owner who utterly fails to absorb the big picture.
 
2013-10-24 11:10:27 AM  
Neighbors have hired a lawyer to help them get back their view.
I like the fact that a chain link fence makes a complete visual barrier. "man, I wish I could see the trees in the distance.
 
2013-10-24 11:10:55 AM  
I skated on the cart tracks a few times, but golfers always call security and some fat guy on a cart comes to tell me I'm not allowed to do that.

Golf is serious, after all, and you can't be distracted by someone actually moving, as opposed to riding around on a golf cart drinking.

I think Hitler played golf.
 
2013-10-24 11:18:05 AM  
A golf course counts as a view?  Yeah, it's probably better than a parking lot or a junkyard or the dump, but come on now, calling it a view is overkill.
 
2013-10-24 11:23:59 AM  
I read the comments first and then the article and it just made me angry. I almost feel like the author is trolling.

Example:
"I just want [the fence] gone immediately. Whatever it would take," said Kendall Radabaugh who lives in an apartment on the golf course.
 
2013-10-24 11:26:46 AM  
If I owned the closed down golf course, the neighbors' attitude of entitlement about what I do with my property would totally earn them the kind of reopening they'd absolutely hate.  I'd take down the fence entirely, not just no barbed wire, but no fence whatsoever.  Then I'd re-open the course and make it a free public course with a focus on busing in underprivileged populations like the homeless and at-risk inner-city and rural youths . I'd make sure it was open and accessible to allow the community to enjoy the course and the "nature" fully 24 hours a day 7 days a week.
 
2013-10-24 11:33:13 AM  
"They don't care about us. That bothers me," said homeowner Jim Swan who's lived here for 18 years.

Okay, fine. Now STFU and go stand in the corner.

theird.files.wordpress.com
 
2013-10-24 11:34:56 AM  

Cold_Sassy: James!: Cold_Sassy: James!: "I just want to let my dog shiat on your property, what gives?"

Yeah, because dogsh*t is the most noxious substance known to mankind ever illegally 'dumped'.  Good thing all the dogs have been killed off, or humans would've never survived that one!

/I do clean up after my dog (in parks and suburban areas, hard as you may find that to believe)

I'm amused that my comment personally offended you. I ALSO pick up after my dog.

It didn't really offend me.  I'm just saying have you seen the air in China?  or the Ganges River? or the BP Oil slicks?  I could go on and on.  You just sounded like some non-owner who utterly fails to absorb the big picture.


Just because it isn't toxic waste doesn't mean I'd want it in my yard.
 
2013-10-24 11:35:08 AM  

Inflatable Rhetoric: Just cut a hole in the fence.  How long would that take?


Mexicans do it all the time, and you know how Mexicans are ..
 
2013-10-24 11:37:34 AM  
Repeat after me.

Not.
Your.
Land.
 
2013-10-24 11:37:36 AM  

Clemkadidlefark: Inflatable Rhetoric: Just cut a hole in the fence.  How long would that take?

Mexicans do it all the time, and you know how Mexicans are ..


Even better.  Get a Mexican to cut a hole in the fence.

I'm looking forward to not getting any updates on this story.
 
2013-10-24 11:39:53 AM  
I can't imagine what it costs to put a chain link fence all the way around a golf course.

But if I did, I'd put up a sign that said "Future home of the Sons of Islam Small Arms Training Facility"
 
2013-10-24 11:50:17 AM  

simusid: I can't imagine what it costs to put a chain link fence all the way around a golf course.

But if I did, I'd put up a sign that said "Future home of the Sons of Islam Small Arms Training Facility"


"Future home of the Methly Arms Trailer Park and Gun Range"
 
2013-10-24 11:54:33 AM  
Unless you want to buy and fix the course, stop complaining.
 
2013-10-24 11:54:42 AM  

redstarr01: If I owned the closed down golf course, the neighbors' attitude of entitlement about what I do with my property would totally earn them the kind of reopening they'd absolutely hate.  I'd take down the fence entirely, not just no barbed wire, but no fence whatsoever.  Then I'd re-open the course and make it a free public course with a focus on busing in underprivileged populations like the homeless and at-risk inner-city and rural youths . I'd make sure it was open and accessible to allow the community to enjoy the course and the "nature" fully 24 hours a day 7 days a week.


I get that sentiment, since they come off sounding like they own some right to the golf course.  Maybe the course was loosing money because the neighbors were walking the dogs all the time and not picking up after their dogs.  We have courses around here that have that problem from Canadian Geese, which is worse, but I so understand not wanting to play around dog poo.

/I don't have sympathy for someone's house loosing value because the neighborhood changed.
//my house is worth 74% lower than when I bought it because of my neighborhood.
 
2013-10-24 12:04:22 PM  

netcentric: CrazyCracka420: Englebert Slaptyback: "I personally enjoy nature. I like to go out there and walk my dog and stuff. I don't care if it's open or closed," said Radabaugh.

Now neighbors can't access the very golf course they pay extra to live by.


He's upset because he can no longer trespass on someone else's property. Bummer.

"Paying to live by" is not the same as "paying to use".

Came to say this.  Why use the sad tag?  These people had no right to trespass on the golf course...


I  am surprised on occasion how some people in my area will trespass.... then are stunned when someone asks them not to.    It is as if they are entitled to walk themselves, their pets or whatever on other peoples property whenever they want.


Some states require a No Trespassing sign to be posted.
 
2013-10-24 12:11:33 PM  

lack of warmth: redstarr01: If I owned the closed down golf course, the neighbors' attitude of entitlement about what I do with my property would totally earn them the kind of reopening they'd absolutely hate.  I'd take down the fence entirely, not just no barbed wire, but no fence whatsoever.  Then I'd re-open the course and make it a free public course with a focus on busing in underprivileged populations like the homeless and at-risk inner-city and rural youths . I'd make sure it was open and accessible to allow the community to enjoy the course and the "nature" fully 24 hours a day 7 days a week.

I get that sentiment, since they come off sounding like they own some right to the golf course.  Maybe the course was loosing money because the neighbors were walking the dogs all the time and not picking up after their dogs.  We have courses around here that have that problem from Canadian Geese, which is worse, but I so understand not wanting to play around dog poo.

/I don't have sympathy for someone's house loosing value because the neighborhood changed.
//my house is worth 74% lower than when I bought it because of my neighborhood.


Losing, not loosing.
 
2013-10-24 12:16:43 PM  

James!: lack of warmth: redstarr01: If I owned the closed down golf course, the neighbors' attitude of entitlement about what I do with my property would totally earn them the kind of reopening they'd absolutely hate.  I'd take down the fence entirely, not just no barbed wire, but no fence whatsoever.  Then I'd re-open the course and make it a free public course with a focus on busing in underprivileged populations like the homeless and at-risk inner-city and rural youths . I'd make sure it was open and accessible to allow the community to enjoy the course and the "nature" fully 24 hours a day 7 days a week.

I get that sentiment, since they come off sounding like they own some right to the golf course.  Maybe the course was loosing money because the neighbors were walking the dogs all the time and not picking up after their dogs.  We have courses around here that have that problem from Canadian Geese, which is worse, but I so understand not wanting to play around dog poo.

/I don't have sympathy for someone's house loosing value because the neighborhood changed.
//my house is worth 74% lower than when I bought it because of my neighborhood.

Losing, not loosing.


You sure, since she let her dog run loose, it seems to affect the property value?
 
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