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2013-10-24 01:28:47 AM  
I've re-built my classic twice, replaced three batteries and one click wheel, and fixed a nano's display using ifixit's instructions and parts. My kids think I'm Tony Farking Stark.
 
2013-10-24 07:16:25 AM  
Still have my first gen, still works.
 
2013-10-24 07:37:44 AM  
Goddammit, I don't want them to get rid of the Classic!  That's all I want in an iPod: music.  I don't want apps.  I don't want a touch screen.  I don't want a camera or wireless or any other bullshiat drain on batteries that I won't use.  I want an mp3 player with a ridiculously easy interface and a scroll wheel for volume.

iPod classic is the only Apple product I still like and buy. >:(
 
2013-10-24 07:38:38 AM  
*reads article*

Okay, I may have over-reacted slightly.  :\  Should probably RTFA first.
 
2013-10-24 07:43:27 AM  

Skail: Goddammit, I don't want them to get rid of the Classic!  That's all I want in an iPod: music.  I don't want apps.  I don't want a touch screen.  I don't want a camera or wireless or any other bullshiat drain on batteries that I won't use.  I want an mp3 player with a ridiculously easy interface and a scroll wheel for volume.

iPod classic is the only Apple product I still like and buy. >:(


While you may have over-reacted.  I agree with your sentiments.  I also don't believe they will be getting rid of the iPod line.  I can see simplifying it.  Maybe cut out a few models.  But if they drop the dedicated mp3 player they're going to screw themselves because once they're out of that market, someone will come in and take it over and with songs being DRM free now, I can move my entire collection over to another device without issue.
 
2013-10-24 07:58:31 AM  

baka-san: Still have my first gen, still works.




Mine did, till I gave it to a friend so he could have car music. He treated it as though it had a durable flash drive-- tossed it around in the car, etc-- and a few weeks later he was complaining that it wasn't working. Well no shiat, dude. You destroyed the hard drive! Sigh
 
2013-10-24 08:05:01 AM  

Any Pie Left: I've re-built my classic twice, replaced three batteries and one click wheel, and fixed a nano's display using ifixit's instructions and parts. My kids think I'm Tony Farking Stark.


You miss understood them. They think you're farking Tony Stark.
 
2013-10-24 08:12:26 AM  
Along with the chassis design of the Air when it first came out, the click-wheel is one of the few things that were genuinely innovative from Apple (correct me if they "borrowed" it form somewhere and I'm wrong).
 
2013-10-24 08:12:54 AM  
We had a first gen shuffle, I think (one of those usb plug in ones, I think it was 256 MB) plugged into computer speakers and a charger in our kids' room with a nice variety of bedtime songs. We never turned it off, ever. Just turned off the speakers in the morning. That thing lasted like 2 years. It was pretty impressive. Now we've got a cheap San-Disk one doing the same thing and it's going on two years, or maybe longer.
 
2013-10-24 08:13:46 AM  
I keep about twelve hours of Christmas jazz and blues on my 3rd gen so I don't have to turn on the radio and listen to the horrible stuff they're playing for 5 straight weeks.
 
2013-10-24 08:21:34 AM  
Is there still a spinning hard drive in the new click wheels, or have they gone to ssd by now?
 
2013-10-24 08:23:50 AM  
i.huffpost.com\
I gave away my original iPod.  I have no idea if it still works, but it worked for longer than my next 5 iPods.  I should probably ask the person I gave it to.

The next iPod was a piece of crap.  I went through no less than 5 of those, because they kept breaking for no reason.

After that though, they were fine.  I just bought another classic to have more space than my previous 80 GB 5th gen.

Don't know how many people remember, but when the iPod first came out, the MP3 player market was awful.  Full of big, bulky devices that were cheap, broke easily, didn't work very well, etc.  Not to mention all of the software needed to use them was terrible too.

iPods just frickin' worked (except for that crappy 3rd gen,) and they were awesome.  iTunes was a free player when everyone wanted $30 for their software.
 
2013-10-24 08:24:49 AM  
I had an iPod Mini that I carried everywhere from 2004-2006. I washed it during my freshman year. It was simple and did the job I needed it to do. I had a second MP3 player that died and then got my friend's first generationiPod Touch that I used forever. Sadly, the headphone port went and the charger port went also.

I have iPhone now but before that, I bought a fourth generation iPod Touch that I started using again since it has the larger disk space for Audio Books and other stuff
 
2013-10-24 08:24:53 AM  

brainscab: Is there still a spinning hard drive in the new click wheels, or have they gone to ssd by now?



I'm pretty sure they're still spinny, because they're still 160gb, which I don't think is possible with a ssd.
 
2013-10-24 08:25:39 AM  

brainscab: Is there still a spinning hard drive in the new click wheels, or have they gone to ssd by now?


There's a HDD.  My only issue with it is that it takes a second to load up things like album art in certain menu views.
 
2013-10-24 08:27:47 AM  
The article's assumption that "if there were going to be a new iPod, it probably would have been released Tuesday" seems like a stretch.  Sales are down, but Apple's going to keep them around for awhile because they're a cheap, no-contract way of getting new customers into the ecosystem.
 
2013-10-24 08:30:10 AM  

Skail: Goddammit, I don't want them to get rid of the Classic!  That's all I want in an iPod: music.  I don't want apps.  I don't want a touch screen.  I don't want a camera or wireless or any other bullshiat drain on batteries that I won't use.  I want an mp3 player with a ridiculously easy interface and a scroll wheel for volume.

iPod classic is the only Apple product I still like and buy. >:(


They can get rid of the classic if, and only if, they come up with a touch or iPhone with at least that capacity.

My household will buy 3.
 
2013-10-24 08:36:01 AM  

lemurs: The article's assumption that "if there were going to be a new iPod, it probably would have been released Tuesday" seems like a stretch.  Sales are down, but Apple's going to keep them around for awhile because they're a cheap, no-contract way of getting new customers into the ecosystem.


True that. I became an Apple guy because of the iPod. I enjoyed the simplicity and then did research on OS X. I'm still stuck in the PowerPC era because I bought my computers used but they can last for a while
 
2013-10-24 08:40:39 AM  
First iPod for me was a 500mb Shuffle. Then I moved up to a 3G Touch, which served me quite well until I bought a Nano last year.

It's hard to call iPod a dead product when it is essentially the only game in town.
 
2013-10-24 08:42:36 AM  
It certainly hinders future sales when your old iPhone can be used as an iPod touch with GPS (if you start a trip connected to WiFi, turn by turn directions will work for the whole route -- just did this with a 100 mile drive).

It seems likely that they'll eventually do a full refresh of the line -- make it much smaller, have WiFi, maybe integration with excersise apps. Or maybe integrate with headphones.
 
2013-10-24 08:46:18 AM  
The article has no evidence they will stop making the classic iPod.  I hope they dont, I use mine in my car.  It's nice being able to carry all my music in the car and the iPod touch just isn't big enough.
 
2013-10-24 08:47:08 AM  
blog.ebruni.it

My MacBook Wheel is still going strong.
 
2013-10-24 08:52:59 AM  

Glitchwerks: [i.huffpost.com image 570x380]\
I gave away my original iPod.  I have no idea if it still works, but it worked for longer than my next 5 iPods.  I should probably ask the person I gave it to.

The next iPod was a piece of crap.  I went through no less than 5 of those, because they kept breaking for no reason.

After that though, they were fine.  I just bought another classic to have more space than my previous 80 GB 5th gen.

Don't know how many people remember, but when the iPod first came out, the MP3 player market was awful.  Full of big, bulky devices that were cheap, broke easily, didn't work very well, etc.  Not to mention all of the software needed to use them was terrible too.

iPods just frickin' worked (except for that crappy 3rd gen,) and they were awesome.   iTunes was a free player when everyone wanted $30 for their software.


My copy of Creative music suite(which ripped and allowed renaming in a simple, straightforward way) came free with my Zen, so I have no idea what you're getting at there.

The early offerings from Creative were great too. My original Zen (32MB w/room for 32MB expansion) still works. Hell, Creative did such a good job that Apple "borrowed" their menu interface.

/found early iTunes for Windows to be sluggish and bloaty
 
2013-10-24 08:53:48 AM  

Glitchwerks: [i.huffpost.com image 570x380]\
I gave away my original iPod.  I have no idea if it still works, but it worked for longer than my next 5 iPods.  I should probably ask the person I gave it to.

The next iPod was a piece of crap.  I went through no less than 5 of those, because they kept breaking for no reason.

After that though, they were fine.  I just bought another classic to have more space than my previous 80 GB 5th gen.

Don't know how many people remember, but when the iPod first came out, the MP3 player market was awful.  Full of big, bulky devices that were cheap, broke easily, didn't work very well, etc.  Not to mention all of the software needed to use them was terrible too.

iPods just frickin' worked (except for that crappy 3rd gen,) and they were awesome.  iTunes was a free player when everyone wanted $30 for their software.


Gee I seem to remember this little dandy was freeware for a long time before Itunes.

jerekdain.com
 
2013-10-24 08:57:41 AM  
Meh.. I still have my Zen Vision "M", still works great, and didn't need to have a stolen interface to work.
 
2013-10-24 09:01:32 AM  
Still have my 3rd gen. Loved that thing until the battery died by expanding the case to death.
Then I got a nice mini, and it does what I want: it plays music. It's battery is getting weak, as it can only play about 15 hours on a charge. But I'm not going to use my iPhone as my music device. That many cycles on the battery and I know I'll have to upgrade every other year. If I'm nice with the phone, I can get 3-4 years from it before I have to upgrade.

/iPod, the best music player ever.
//iTunes has become something hideous however.
 
2013-10-24 09:07:10 AM  

Skail: Goddammit, I don't want them to get rid of the Classic!  That's all I want in an iPod: music.  I don't want apps.  I don't want a touch screen.  I don't want a camera or wireless or any other bullshiat drain on batteries that I won't use.  I want an mp3 player with a ridiculously easy interface and a scroll wheel for volume.

iPod classic is the only Apple product I still like and buy. >:(


I was about to post exactly the same thing.  My 160 gig Classic is the only Apple product I currently own.
 
2013-10-24 09:10:40 AM  

theflatline: Glitchwerks: [i.huffpost.com image 570x380]\
I gave away my original iPod.  I have no idea if it still works, but it worked for longer than my next 5 iPods.  I should probably ask the person I gave it to.

The next iPod was a piece of crap.  I went through no less than 5 of those, because they kept breaking for no reason.

After that though, they were fine.  I just bought another classic to have more space than my previous 80 GB 5th gen.

Don't know how many people remember, but when the iPod first came out, the MP3 player market was awful.  Full of big, bulky devices that were cheap, broke easily, didn't work very well, etc.  Not to mention all of the software needed to use them was terrible too.

iPods just frickin' worked (except for that crappy 3rd gen,) and they were awesome.  iTunes was a free player when everyone wanted $30 for their software.

Gee I seem to remember this little dandy was freeware for a long time before Itunes.

[jerekdain.com image 550x754]


It really did whip the llamas Baaaaaaaah
 
2013-10-24 09:12:19 AM  
My 5th gen 80GB has died on me after 6 years of hard and faithful service.  It worked for about 9 hours a day, almost every damn day.  Then one day out of nowhere, I wasnt getting audio.  Dunno whats wrong with it.  The battery kinda sucks, but it still plays just no sound.  :(

I miss it greatly.
 
2013-10-24 09:19:04 AM  
My first iPod was an iPod Mini.  It was a shame they discontinued those and replaced them with the Nano.

I then had a couple different click-wheel iPod Classics, which did their job very well.

But I stopped buying iPods when I got my iPhone, since there's really no point in having another redundant music player.
 
2013-10-24 09:19:12 AM  

sugahboy: found early iTunes for Windows to be sluggish and bloaty


Current iTunes isn't much better.  If you install it on a Windows machine, part of it (iTunesHelper.exe) is always running in the background so it appears to load faster.  If you try to shut down the process, it re-starts on its own a few minutes later.  It also pre-loads iPhone & iPad interface (AppleMobileDeviceService.exe) plus a separate iPod interface (iPodService.exe), all of them running at all times, even if you don't own any of these devices.
 
2013-10-24 09:31:08 AM  

Apok451: My 5th gen 80GB has died on me after 6 years of hard and faithful service.  It worked for about 9 hours a day, almost every damn day.  Then one day out of nowhere, I wasnt getting audio.  Dunno whats wrong with it.  The battery kinda sucks, but it still plays just no sound.  :(

I miss it greatly.


The sound chip is probably farked. I had the same problem with mine. It would start working again if I pressed hard on the bottom right side of the case. It was due to manufacturer defect with the sound chip. The solder will start to lift after exposure to heat/cold cycles and time. I'm pretty sure it's repairable, but last time I checked it wasn't worth the costs. If you have a USB based aux in on your vehicles stereo, it should actually still be able to pull data and play songs. That's how I use mine now, seeing as it'll no longer output sound otherwise.
 
2013-10-24 09:31:13 AM  
Original 160gb Classic still going strong and the battery lasts for days. I love that thing.
 
2013-10-24 09:36:51 AM  

thegrievingmole: Gee I seem to remember this little dandy was freeware for a long time before Itunes.

[jerekdain.com image 550x754]

It really did whip the llamas Baaaaaaaah


Except you had to pay for the full, unlocked version.
 
2013-10-24 09:38:14 AM  

sugahboy: My copy of Creative music suite(which ripped and allowed renaming in a simple, straightforward way) came free with my Zen, so I have no idea what you're getting at there.

The early offerings from Creative were great too. My original Zen (32MB w/room for 32MB expansion) still works. Hell, Creative did such a good job that Apple "borrowed" their menu interface.

/found early iTunes for Windows to be sluggish and bloaty


I owned several Zens when they first came out, and I respectfully disagree.  They were messes.  I had one Creative player that had to rebooted at least once every day.
 
2013-10-24 09:44:29 AM  
Bought new. Used it as an image tank for my digital camera as well as an mp3 player.

Still using it to play music in my car.

http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2005/07/archos/
 
2013-10-24 09:47:25 AM  

Glitchwerks: thegrievingmole: Gee I seem to remember this little dandy was freeware for a long time before Itunes.

[jerekdain.com image 550x754]

It really did whip the llamas Baaaaaaaah

Except you had to pay for the full, unlocked version.


The first two versions were free ware, then when the went to the $10(not 30) to have more features, but even the free one was more feature rich than Itunes.  And certainly more lite - weight.

Then when AOL bought it they made it free again.
 
2013-10-24 09:49:54 AM  

Bungles: brainscab: Is there still a spinning hard drive in the new click wheels, or have they gone to ssd by now?


I'm pretty sure they're still spinny, because they're still 160gb, which I don't think is possible with a ssd.


Well, there are several SSDs on the market at 1TB, with 256GB drives being quite common and affordable, so i think getting 160GB into an ipod would be relatively simple.
 
2013-10-24 09:52:00 AM  

blacksharpiemarker: Apok451: My 5th gen 80GB has died on me after 6 years of hard and faithful service.  It worked for about 9 hours a day, almost every damn day.  Then one day out of nowhere, I wasnt getting audio.  Dunno whats wrong with it.  The battery kinda sucks, but it still plays just no sound.  :(

I miss it greatly.

The sound chip is probably farked. I had the same problem with mine. It would start working again if I pressed hard on the bottom right side of the case. It was due to manufacturer defect with the sound chip. The solder will start to lift after exposure to heat/cold cycles and time. I'm pretty sure it's repairable, but last time I checked it wasn't worth the costs. If you have a USB based aux in on your vehicles stereo, it should actually still be able to pull data and play songs. That's how I use mine now, seeing as it'll no longer output sound otherwise.


I had the same problem and as I remember they had greatly extended the warranty for this issue, though I don't know if it still applies.
 
2013-10-24 09:53:13 AM  

Bungles: brainscab: Is there still a spinning hard drive in the new click wheels, or have they gone to ssd by now?


I'm pretty sure they're still spinny, because they're still 160gb, which I don't think is possible with a ssd.


No, 160 GB SSDs do exist. I could swear that I've seen them in the past in the 1.8" size the iPod Classic uses, but right now they only come in 2.5". They'd probably switch to something more compact anyway if they made it flash (probably surface mount).
 
2013-10-24 10:17:33 AM  

sxacho: We had a first gen shuffle, I think (one of those usb plug in ones, I think it was 256 MB) plugged into computer speakers and a charger in our kids' room with a nice variety of bedtime songs. We never turned it off, ever. Just turned off the speakers in the morning. That thing lasted like 2 years. It was pretty impressive. Now we've got a cheap San-Disk one doing the same thing and it's going on two years, or maybe longer.


The Sansa line are the best dedicated players on the market, really.  Inexpensive, expandable memory, play every format(never understood why Apple wouldn't let you play open formats like Ogg), no special software required...  Because of the price, I don't particularly care if I bust it, which means I don't have any reservations using it while working out, doing work on the house, or whatever.
 
2013-10-24 10:21:56 AM  

theflatline: Glitchwerks: thegrievingmole: Gee I seem to remember this little dandy was freeware for a long time before Itunes.

[jerekdain.com image 550x754]

It really did whip the llamas Baaaaaaaah

Except you had to pay for the full, unlocked version.

The first two versions were free ware, then when the went to the $10(not 30) to have more features, but even the free one was more feature rich than Itunes.  And certainly more lite - weight.

Then when AOL bought it they made it free again.


I don't remember WinAmp bring all that feature-rich in 2003. You had a lot of skins, audio effects, and other plug ins, but it kind of sucked when it came to dealing with a large music library because it was really sluggish to search and needed a playlist to be created to play back anything, and it had no built-in CD ripping capability. Maybe I'm mis-remembering or I was doing it wrong, but at a certain point I migrated over MusicMatch and then iTunes because those worked right away without having to download half a dozen plug ins.
 
2013-10-24 10:24:38 AM  
Glitchwerks

The next iPod was a piece of crap. I went through no less than 5 of those, because they kept breaking
Some people would say that indicates you might be a slow learner.
Not apple bashing. It's time to stop buying any product that fails twice.
 
2013-10-24 10:30:11 AM  
I found an iPod Mini (1st gen) at a yard sale for $5 and loaded it with RockBox.  Its pretty neat, but the
battery life is for crap (but it is an Apple product, and the fact that it works at all this far out of its 2 year
planned lifespan is probably a miracle in itself).

It makes a good beater for when I do yard work, anyway.
 
2013-10-24 10:43:11 AM  
iPod 5th Gen > iPod Classic

Better DSP.  Less bloated firmware.
H264 profile support isn't as good, but I don't use mine as a video player.

/ upgraded to a 240GB drive and a high-capacity battery
 
2013-10-24 11:08:48 AM  
And to think the product still has less space than a nomad.
 
2013-10-24 11:12:26 AM  

OnlyM3: Glitchwerks

The next iPod was a piece of crap. I went through no less than 5 of those, because they kept breaking Some people would say that indicates you might be a slow learner.
Not apple bashing. It's time to stop buying any product that fails twice.


I only bought one of them.  Apple replaced the next 4 free of charge.
 
2013-10-24 11:18:46 AM  

bhcompy: sxacho: We had a first gen shuffle, I think (one of those usb plug in ones, I think it was 256 MB) plugged into computer speakers and a charger in our kids' room with a nice variety of bedtime songs. We never turned it off, ever. Just turned off the speakers in the morning. That thing lasted like 2 years. It was pretty impressive. Now we've got a cheap San-Disk one doing the same thing and it's going on two years, or maybe longer.

The Sansa line are the best dedicated players on the market, really.  Inexpensive, expandable memory, play every format(never understood why Apple wouldn't let you play open formats like Ogg), no special software required...  Because of the price, I don't particularly care if I bust it, which means I don't have any reservations using it while working out, doing work on the house, or whatever.


And its small size makes it a whole lot more comfortable to carry around if you're a jogger.
 
2013-10-24 11:21:13 AM  
I'd happily switch away from my trusty Classic if they'd make a version with enough storage.  I've got 100+ gigs of stuff on it now, and have no interest in paying more for less space.  I don't really care what other stuff it can do.

Also, this headline is a nice demonstration of how quickly things get distorted.
Apple doesn't unveil new iPod -> website: "Does this mean that the iPod's days are numbered?  We don't really know, but let's write an article about it anyway, because we need content." -> subby: "THE IPOD IS DEAD!!!"
 
2013-10-24 11:23:07 AM  

Mad_Radhu: I don't remember WinAmp bring all that feature-rich in 2003. You had a lot of skins, audio effects, and other plug ins, but it kind of sucked when it came to dealing with a large music library because it was really sluggish to search and needed a playlist to be created to play back anything, and it had no built-in CD ripping capability. Maybe I'm mis-remembering or I was doing it wrong, but at a certain point I migrated over MusicMatch and then iTunes because those worked right away without having to download half a dozen plug ins.


It wasn't.  iTunes was a lot better in terms of appearance and the ability to edit and organize.  Everything was in it right out of the box.

That said, I prefer Foobar over every other player out there right now.  With the DarkOne V4 theme and Discogs auto-tagger, it is an absolute dream.
 
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