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2013-10-23 01:17:00 PM
America Potato
 
2013-10-23 01:17:51 PM
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2013-10-23 01:18:45 PM
Texas. America's dumb uncle.
 
2013-10-23 01:19:59 PM
Is this a follow-up?

...Does Jesus finally ride the T-Rex off into the sunset all majestic-like?
 
2013-10-23 01:21:26 PM

sexorcisst: Texas. America's dumb uncle.


No Florida is Americas wang the gulf states are the tant and Texas is the ass hole. For proof just look at all the shiat that comes out of it.
 
2013-10-23 01:21:27 PM
TX Dems are getting fed up.  Maybe even enough to vote!
 
2013-10-23 01:23:14 PM
Dear Creationists

 Go fark yourselves.

Love and kisses,
Science
 
2013-10-23 01:24:32 PM
One of the greatest gifts my parents gave me was freedom from going to church when I growing up.
 
2013-10-23 01:24:47 PM
I'm sorry, what year is it again? This is still really an issue?
 
2013-10-23 01:24:48 PM
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2013-10-23 01:24:55 PM
It is bad enough they can do it to their own children, but to bleed over into other people's lives is hardly "Christian".
Let's go with Taliban, eh?
 
2013-10-23 01:25:00 PM
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2013-10-23 01:25:16 PM
Good.  Scientific facts are not subject to religious purity tests.  If one's religious beliefs are incompatible with observable reality, it's not reality's responsibility to change.
 
2013-10-23 01:25:36 PM

vonzales: TX Dems are getting fed up.  Maybe even enough to vote!


Actually its the businessman getting fed up w/ workers who can't count to potato
 
2013-10-23 01:25:39 PM

Hack Patooey: Dear Creationists

 Go fark yourselves.

Love and kisses,
Science


That's sort of the problem. They need to start farking outside of their gene pool to get some intelligence designed.
 
2013-10-23 01:26:07 PM
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2013-10-23 01:26:28 PM

Gabrin_Kinoda: I'm sorry, what year is it again? This is still really an issue?


Does not matter what year.
These nutjobs are supported by financial foundations established by dead asshats to run for farking ever.
 
2013-10-23 01:26:39 PM
I guess, they could include creationism into biology book, after removing resurrection part from the latest edition of new testament.
 
2013-10-23 01:26:52 PM
The Texas whackjobs already have a science and math book that satisfies their requirements.  It's called the Bible.  Study it out.

They can believe in Genesis and use 3 as the value for pi all they want.  Don't expect any real institution to hire them.
 
2013-10-23 01:27:15 PM
So it looks like textbook publishers' views on Texas

*puts on sunglasses*

are evolving.

YEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHH


/old tired meme is old & tired
 
2013-10-23 01:27:32 PM
Dear Texas,

I do understand that you are envious of our Florida Fark tag.  I mean, what state would not be?  We have the distinction of being the only state STUPID enough to warrant one.

And I appreciate your ongoing efforts to appear as stupid as the folks here.  I really do.  I believe that there are some profoundly stupid people in Texas.  Some of them on school board textbook review groups.

But you will not be the first, nor last, state to try and match our staggering amount of stupidity and, thus, will never have a Texas tag on Fark.

Don't let that stop you from trying, though.  You have some jaw droppingly stupid people living in your borders.  Continue to live the dream.

Sincerely,
Florida
 
2013-10-23 01:29:19 PM

greylion: I guess, they could include creationism into biology book, after removing resurrection part from the latest edition of new testament.


They probably don't want to know which 'Founding Father' published a rational Bible with all the miracles deleted.
 
2013-10-23 01:29:26 PM
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2013-10-23 01:29:39 PM
Dear Creationists,

You have the freedom to teach whatever bullshiat about "God Created All Life" in your private religious schools, but I am sorry to report that Public Schools are going to teach the "truth". Keep your farking religion out of our public schools. I am sick of you trying to shove god down everyone's throat.
 
2013-10-23 01:30:44 PM

greylion: I guess, they could include creationism into biology book...


Not if they want it to be a science text book.
 
2013-10-23 01:31:15 PM

FloydA: Scientific facts are not subject to religious purity tests.  If one's religious beliefs are incompatible with observable reality, it's not reality's responsibility to change.


rosebud_the_sled: They can believe in Genesis and use 3 as the value for pi all they want.  Don't expect any real institution to hire them.


I love these statements so much.
 
2013-10-23 01:31:27 PM
is it just me, or did the sudden rush to go ultra-religious only begin to occur in the last, say, 50-60 years, when people started making religion an issue?
 
2013-10-23 01:32:09 PM

megarian: Is this a follow-up?

...Does Jesus finally ride the T-Rex off into the sunset all majestic-like?


Not really "majestic,"  but it was a fun GIS.

i.imgur.com
 
2013-10-23 01:32:38 PM
If you stop and consider that the textbooks are written by scientist in the field you will realize why creationists will never get their way from a reputable publisher.
 
2013-10-23 01:34:27 PM
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Congratulations Texas you've taken a step towards the 21st century instead of the 11th but you still have a long way to go.
 
2013-10-23 01:34:48 PM

Kit Fister: is it just me, or did the sudden rush to go ultra-religious only begin to occur in the last, say, 50-60 years, when people started making religion an issue?


Seems that way.  Once the belief systems were opted out of or questioned, pantied became might twisted.
 
2013-10-23 01:35:42 PM

RevLovejoy: Kit Fister: is it just me, or did the sudden rush to go ultra-religious only begin to occur in the last, say, 50-60 years, when people started making religion an issue?

Seems that way.  Once the belief systems were opted out of or questioned, pantied became might twisted.


Ahem, that is to say "panties" and "mighty"

/derp
 
2013-10-23 01:37:10 PM

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Alright you primitive screwhead Texans, listen up!



You see this?!?!  This... is my boom stick of science!



If one more of you ignorant hayseeds tried to tell me that creationism is science



you are going to find out what Mr. Boomstick can do to an empty head!

 
2013-10-23 01:38:17 PM

RevLovejoy: Kit Fister: is it just me, or did the sudden rush to go ultra-religious only begin to occur in the last, say, 50-60 years, when people started making religion an issue?

Seems that way.  Once the belief systems were opted out of or questioned, pantied became might twisted.


The puritans came and settled here just because how religious they were. The establishment clause exists for that same reason. America, while not a christian nation, is a very devout one. I think the increasing non-religious has more to do with technological change that enables alternative community formation than anything to do with a change in ideology.
 
2013-10-23 01:39:12 PM

snocone: It is bad enough they can do it to their own children, but to bleed over into other people's lives is hardly "Christian".
Let's go with Taliban, eh?


Despite all the claims to the contrary, the truth is that the Christian fundamentalists love the Taliban's strategies. When they were in control of Afghanistan, they had the ability to tell others how to act according to their interpretation of Islamic laws.  Here the fundamentalists would love to outlaw Islam, Paganism, Atheism, and other beliefs that contradict their "Judeo-Christian viewpoints" (which will turn to simply "Christian" once they feel Jews can no longer serve their purpose, or they use 'Jews for Jesus' or other Christian organizations that mimic Judaism to replace actual Jews as their "chosen ones" in their biblical text) as well as enact laws to enforce their selective interpretation of the Christian Bible.

The interesting thing is that many of these politicians who claim to be in lockstep with this organizations really aren't (some are quite intelligent, but feign stupidity in order to get Tea Party and other extremist votes & campaign cash). They just ride the money train that it brings in, and if they're caught doing something heinous, it's forgiven as either "He's a Christian" or "At least he's not a Democrat". I am more than sure that the leaders of this push to turn America into The Handmaid's Tale will probably be just as horrible human beings as they are now with no conscious, if they somehow succeed, will just hide behind the wealth and power they maintain while the rest of us plebes will be dealing every day to make sure the local pastor doesn't get pissed off at us and wants to do some fun torture with the help of the secret police.
 
2013-10-23 01:39:43 PM
I think they actual score is way more lopsided in favor of science.
 
2013-10-23 01:40:04 PM

megarian: Is this a follow-up?

...Does Jesus finally ride the T-Rex off into the sunset all majestic-like?


Yep. Until he gets to the beach and sees the Statue of Liberty sticking out of the sand.

Then he gets mad.....
 
2013-10-23 01:41:17 PM
Crazies can still buy their textbooks direct from Bob Jones.  I'm glad the major, mainstream ones are sticking to their guns!
 
2013-10-23 01:41:19 PM
It is completely amazing to me that this is an actual issue in 2013.  For God's sake, we had the scopes monkey trial in 1925!  And these idiots continue to fight this nearly 100 years later.

Honestly, why is it so important to these morons that creationism be taught in school?  Why is it so central to their religious beliefs?  I mean, the Genesis story is utterly ridiculous (as are a lot of parts in the old testament).  It makes no sense why these idiots think that for one to believe in God or be a "true" Christian, they are required to believe literally every word stated in Genesis (as translated over the years, etc.)

Teaching creationism in public schools is no different than teaching any other non-scientific, made-up explanation about the origin of the world.  I know - the sun (which is a god, btw) magically created the earth 10,000 years ago by clapping his sun-hands together and saying "earth - NOW!"  There - my explanation is on the same scientific footing as biblical creationism.

I just can't facepalm enough - it's utterly insane that these people are actually trying to argue that story set forth in a book written by some guy thousands of years ago, in which he tries to explain how god magically created everything, is on the same footing as modern science.  The most disturbing part about it is that a lot of people, who realize how full of shiat creationists are, are willing to sympathize with them.  They should universally dismissed and scorned, as the modern equivalent of the puritan priests who burned witches in salem.
 
2013-10-23 01:43:45 PM

Kit Fister: is it just me, or did the sudden rush to go ultra-religious only begin to occur in the last, say, 50-60 years, when people started making religion an issue?


It's not just you.  While there have always been religious extremists, in the US they were viewed as fringe weirdos until about the beginning of the Cold War.  The modern creationist movement really started in the mid 1960s, and in the 1970s, the GOP started courting those voters, thereby making their madness seem somewhat respectable.

I'm hoping that when the Tea Party splits from the GOP, the mainstream Republicans will realize that they don't need to celebrate ignorance any more, and will return to being the socially moderate, fiscally conservative party that they were under Eisenhower.
 
2013-10-23 01:44:22 PM

Kit Fister: is it just me, or did the sudden rush to go ultra-religious only begin to occur in the last, say, 50-60 years, when people started making religion an issue?


It's been around since the end of the Civil War. Big in the 20s with Billy Sunday and his ilk. Then came Billy Graham (who seems to get a pass these days for some unknowable reason) . It got recharged in the 70s with the whole new pentecostal evangelism going on. Sick-society stuff.
 
2013-10-23 01:45:42 PM

Chummer45: Honestly, why is it so important to these morons that creationism be taught in school? Why is it so central to their religious beliefs?


Uh, well. With more and more people not going to church, you can't get them while they're in the pews, as it were. So, to bring the word (whatever that word may be, and cynically I think it's "power" or "money") to more people, you have to get at them wherever they are, and schools have this fantastic captive audience just sitting there waiting to be converted to little... whatevers. Urgh. This entire concept makes me queasy.
 
2013-10-23 01:46:26 PM

Surool: greylion: I guess, they could include creationism into biology book...

Not if they want it to be a science text book.


Not if they want to pay for it with my tax dollars. If they want to read the Bible and subscribe to its story that is up to them but it is not accepted as anything more than a story by non-christians such as myself.
 
2013-10-23 01:46:30 PM

Chummer45: Honestly, why is it so important to these morons that creationism be taught in school?  Why is it so central to their religious beliefs?


Many creationists literally believe that the theory of evolution is a plot to destroy all of Western civilization.
 
2013-10-23 01:47:52 PM

Gabrin_Kinoda: I'm sorry, what year is it again?


I think it's somewhere around the 6017th year since Creation, but I might have missed a 'begat' or two.
 
2013-10-23 01:48:19 PM

Publikwerks: [i.imgur.com image 850x550]


Relgion?  wow.
 
2013-10-23 01:49:13 PM

generallyso: [i.imgur.com image 600x408]

Congratulations Texas you've taken a step towards the 21st century instead of the 11th but you still have a long way to go.


Actually, it was the publisher and not Texas that remained in the 21st century. When a dumb ass gets elected as the governor of Texas, and he can appoint anyone that stuffs his campaign coffers with that spare tithing loot, you're gonna have the retarded myth buyers trying to intervene where they are outgunned in the brains department.

I'm pretty sure anyone who believes in creationism has never observed a damn thing relevant to science, or logic. So, there ya go.
 
2013-10-23 01:50:25 PM
I think a viable troll is putting out the notion on godly forums that the Intrawebs is the tool of Satan. Might lower the volume of these farkwits to be reduced to "writing letters to newspaper editors", which is not really, like fundamentalism, a thing any more.
 
2013-10-23 01:50:57 PM
This isn't over yet, the textbooks still have to be approved by the texas commission.  They will throw the textbook in a pond, if it floats it is a witch and it shall be burned ...if it sinks, it is offensive and it shall be burned.  Basically, they're gonna wanna burn it.
 
2013-10-23 01:53:43 PM
This could all be resolved by looking at the writings of Emanuel Swedenborg.  God created the spiritual world, and the physical world mirrors that world.  The physical world is a reflection of the spiritual world, but operates by the laws of physics, and by natural law.  God is the center of the spiritual world, as the Sun is the center of our physical world.
Following that school of thought, evil is no more real than is cold more than an absence of heat.
 
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