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(Gawker)   Pro-gun Congresswoman who believes that "gun owners must be responsible for the use and care of their guns" has an unsecured AR-15 stolen from her home   (gawker.com) divider line 488
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2013-10-23 01:07:23 PM
Are we blaming the victim here?  Just checking.
 
2013-10-23 01:13:51 PM
Unsecured? Were her doors locked? If so then it was secured.

Plus the victim blaming thing, maybe she was asking for it.
 
2013-10-23 01:17:12 PM
It was her son's gun. I blame him.

And the garage for allowing itself to be broken into.
 
2013-10-23 01:22:59 PM

R.A.Danny: Unsecured? Were her doors locked? If so then it was secured.

Plus the victim blaming thing, maybe she was asking for it.


Guns are the kind of thing that warrant more protection than an entry door with a grade 3 lock.

That said, the likelihood that this gun will end up being used to commit a crime or injure someone is astonishingly small.

We could use a little less hyperbole from everyone involved.
 
2013-10-23 01:24:14 PM

R.A.Danny: Unsecured? Were her doors locked? If so then it was secured.

Plus the victim blaming thing, maybe she was asking for it.


FTFA: The garage door was left unsecured, according to the report.

/RIF
 
2013-10-23 01:28:14 PM
This wouldn't have happened if the garage had a...oh, never mind.
 
2013-10-23 01:34:01 PM
At least she can just go out and buy another to help the economy.
 
2013-10-23 01:37:05 PM
What is she going to use to clear a kindergarten class now? Or was this one for hogs?
 
2013-10-23 01:37:43 PM
NRA poster child!
 
2013-10-23 01:38:06 PM
She pulled an ATF on that one.
 
2013-10-23 01:41:32 PM
She said "use and care" of the guns, not storage.

/study it out
 
2013-10-23 01:42:34 PM
That's unpossible. I was told thieves only break into the homes of unarmed residents.
 
2013-10-23 01:42:36 PM
Wanted for questioning.

upload.wikimedia.org

GARAGE RAID!
 
2013-10-23 01:44:39 PM

R.A.Danny: Unsecured? Were her doors locked? If so then it was secured.

Plus the victim blaming thing, maybe she was asking for it.


"They had been out target shooting and brought the gun back and leaned it against the gun safe... The garage door was left unsecured, according to the report."
 
2013-10-23 01:44:45 PM
This puts the lie to the claim that an assault weapons ban is not warranted. This theft would not have occurred had the rifle lacked a pistol grip or collapsing stock.
 
2013-10-23 01:45:40 PM
Well, I'm of two minds here.

First, it's kind of stupid to leave a firearm out like that, *BUT* I have one hanging on brass hooks on my bedroom wall, unlocked.  Generally, if no one's home, the house is locked, but it's not like I haven't walked over to the neighbors for a minute and left the door unlocked.
 
2013-10-23 01:45:56 PM

Fubini: Guns are the kind of thing that warrant more protection than an entry door with a grade 3 lock.


She had a gun safe. She was just too lazy to put the gun away.
 
2013-10-23 01:46:10 PM
There is a certain threshold, probably in this case the threshold, that a thief crosses to become exclusively responsible for whatever the stolen firearm ends up shooting.
 
2013-10-23 01:47:19 PM

Dimensio: This puts the lie to the claim that an assault weapons ban is not warranted. This theft would not have occurred had the rifle lacked a pistol grip or collapsing stock.


Or if she had just put the gun in the gun safe, rather than leaning it against the safe. Opening the safe is SO MUCH WORK!!!

But your "argument" is SO much more compelling/funny.
 
2013-10-23 01:47:34 PM

Dimensio: This puts the lie to the claim that an assault weapons ban is not warranted. This theft would not have occurred had the rifle lacked a pistol grip or collapsing stock.


Or a shoulder thing that goes up.
 
2013-10-23 01:49:10 PM

Fubini: That said, the likelihood that this gun will end up being used to commit a crime or injure someone is astonishingly small.

We could use a little less hyperbole from everyone involved.


First of all, what are the odds of the gun even ending up in the hands of a criminal?  Then you would have to assume they keep the gun.  What are the odds on that?  I assume he's probably turning it over to the police right now.
 
2013-10-23 01:49:26 PM

dittybopper: Well, I'm of two minds here.

First, it's kind of stupid to leave a firearm out like that, *BUT* I have one hanging on brass hooks on my bedroom wall, unlocked.  Generally, if no one's home, the house is locked, but it's not like I haven't walked over to the neighbors for a minute and left the door unlocked.


I have a loaded gun sitting out in a locked room. If you want to drive the dirt road out to my house, battle your way past my 3 dogs and break down the door, then yeah, I'll take responsibility for not securing it better.
 
2013-10-23 01:49:26 PM

mediablitz: Fubini: Guns are the kind of thing that warrant more protection than an entry door with a grade 3 lock.

She had a gun safe. She Her son was just too lazy to put the gun away.


FTFY.
 
2013-10-23 01:50:14 PM

factoryconnection: Are we blaming the victim here?  Just checking.


If by victim you mean "Law abiding gun owners who do not leave AR-15 rifles in un-locked gargaes" then no.
 
2013-10-23 01:50:33 PM

Dimensio: This puts the lie to the claim that an assault weapons ban is not warranted. This theft would not have occurred had the rifle lacked a pistol grip or collapsing stock.


You mean the thing on the shoulder that goes up?
 
2013-10-23 01:50:39 PM

mrshowrules: First of all, what are the odds of the gun even ending up in the hands of a criminal?


Well, by definition, thieves are criminals, so I'm going to go with 100% on that one.
 
2013-10-23 01:50:50 PM

R.A.Danny: Unsecured? Were her doors locked? If so then it was secured.

Plus the victim blaming thing, maybe she was asking for it.


The garage was UNLOCKED.

She is an irresponsible gun owner.
 
2013-10-23 01:50:54 PM
To be fair she meant to say "Other gun must be responsible for the use and care of their guns"
//everyone knows politicians consider themselves exempt from the BS that comes out of their mouths.
 
2013-10-23 01:51:03 PM
I should be able to leave my guns lying around on my own property without someone thinking it would be easy to steal.  It's my firearm I should be able to do what I want with it.
 
2013-10-23 01:51:05 PM

mrshowrules: Fubini: That said, the likelihood that this gun will end up being used to commit a crime or injure someone is astonishingly small.

We could use a little less hyperbole from everyone involved.

First of all, what are the odds of the gun even ending up in the hands of a criminal?  Then you would have to assume they keep the gun.  What are the odds on that?  I assume he's probably turning it over to the police right now.


If you arrest people for stealing guns, only criminals will steal guns. . .
 
2013-10-23 01:51:58 PM

dittybopper: mediablitz: Fubini: Guns are the kind of thing that warrant more protection than an entry door with a grade 3 lock.

She had a gun safe. She Her son was just too lazy to put the gun away.

FTFY.


I already blamed her son upthread. Mom should have picked up after her son...

/Don't make me blame the garage again
 
2013-10-23 01:52:27 PM
This woman is NOT a spokesperson for RESPONSIBLE gun owners.

According to the New Observer, the gun had been left next to a gun locker


in the family's unlocked garage.

 
2013-10-23 01:52:27 PM
"Although she believes that gun owners must be responsible for the use and care of their guns, she does not want to see law-abiding gun owners penalized for the actions of criminals."

"People should be responsible, but if they aren't it's totally not their fault. That's what responsibility is all about."
 
2013-10-23 01:52:47 PM

R.A.Danny: Unsecured? Were her doors locked? If so then it was secured.

Plus the victim blaming thing, maybe she was asking for it.


Leaning against a gun locker in an unlocked garage.
 
2013-10-23 01:54:18 PM
I wonder how many times this woman used the argument "Mah guns never hurt nobody!  Guns are just tools!" that I hear so very often here on Fark.

Because guess what?  Her gun is about to be used to hurt someone, to steal from someone, to attack someone.

I'm sure all you fark gun fetishists have entirely different scenarios than this woman because YOUR guns would never be stolen and the gun stores YOU frequent would never be robbed and the trucks of guns that supply YOUR gun stores would never be hijacked.  Your guns and the people who supply your guns play no part at all in the continuing easy access that American criminals have to guns.  [rolls eyes]
 
2013-10-23 01:54:47 PM

dittybopper: mediablitz: Fubini: Guns are the kind of thing that warrant more protection than an entry door with a grade 3 lock.

She had a gun safe. She Her son was just too lazy to put the gun away.

FTFY.


Her son? Lucky she didn't wake up dead.
 
2013-10-23 01:55:06 PM

AngryDragon: I should be able to leave my guns lying around on my own property without someone thinking it would be easy to steal.  It's my firearm I should be able to do what I want with it.


And I should be able to leave a pile of $100 bills on my front porch and expect it to still be there when I get home from work.

Here in the real world neither one of us gets to live in the Utopia we desire.
 
2013-10-23 01:55:11 PM

Bill_Wick's_Friend: I wonder how many times this woman used the argument "Mah guns never hurt nobody!  Guns are just tools!" that I hear so very often here on Fark.

Because guess what?  Her gun is about to be used to hurt someone, to steal from someone, to attack someone.

I'm sure all you fark gun fetishists have entirely different scenarios than this woman because YOUR guns would never be stolen and the gun stores YOU frequent would never be robbed and the trucks of guns that supply YOUR gun stores would never be hijacked.  Your guns and the people who supply your guns play no part at all in the continuing easy access that American criminals have to guns.  [rolls eyes]


gifrific.com
 
2013-10-23 01:55:20 PM

SpectroBoy: This woman is NOT a spokesperson for RESPONSIBLE gun owners.

According to the New Observer, the gun had been left next to a gun locker
in the family's unlocked garage.


Since you are fond of big, bold, centered text.

BY HER SON
 
2013-10-23 01:56:32 PM

Bill_Wick's_Friend: I wonder how many times this woman used the argument "Mah guns never hurt nobody! Guns are just tools!" that I hear so very often here on Fark.


Yet you never see those same people posting pictures of their new table saw, followed by "check out my new baby!!!"
 
2013-10-23 01:57:08 PM

SpectroBoy: R.A.Danny: Unsecured? Were her doors locked? If so then it was secured.

Plus the victim blaming thing, maybe she was asking for it.

The garage was UNLOCKED.

She is an irresponsible gun owner.


"Responsible gun owners" are about as common as "good Christians" and "good drivers."

/and knowledgeable computer owners
 
2013-10-23 01:57:36 PM

Bill_Wick's_Friend: I'm sure all you fark gun fetishists have entirely different scenarios than this woman because YOUR guns would never be stolen and the gun stores YOU frequent would never be robbed and the trucks of guns that supply YOUR gun stores would never be hijacked.  Your guns and the people who supply your guns play no part at all in the continuing easy access that American criminals have to guns.


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2013-10-23 01:58:23 PM

SpectroBoy: R.A.Danny: Unsecured? Were her doors locked? If so then it was secured.

Plus the victim blaming thing, maybe she was asking for it.

The garage was UNLOCKED.

She is an irresponsible gun owner.


No, at worst, you can blame her son:

The weapon belonged to Ellmers' college-aged son, he confirmed. Ellmers was in Washington, D.C., at the time of the theft.
 
2013-10-23 01:58:32 PM

dittybopper: mediablitz: Fubini: Guns are the kind of thing that warrant more protection than an entry door with a grade 3 lock.

She had a gun safe. She Her son was just too lazy to put the gun away.

FTFY.


She was too lazy to ensure they were secured.
 
2013-10-23 01:58:40 PM

mediablitz: SpectroBoy: This woman is NOT a spokesperson for RESPONSIBLE gun owners.

According to the New Observer, the gun had been left next to a gun locker
in the family's unlocked garage.

Since you are fond of big, bold, centered text.

BY HER SON


I'm not sure why that's relevant, unless the guns actually belonged to the son. It's the owner's responsibility to store their guns responsibly.
 
2013-10-23 01:59:28 PM

Bill_Wick's_Friend: Because guess what?  Her gun is about to be used to hurt someone, to steal from someone, to attack someone.


Alternatively, the firearm may be pawned to pay for meth. However, I understand that your irrational hatred of all firearms and of firearm owners has prevented you from considering that possibility.
 
2013-10-23 01:59:56 PM

mediablitz: SpectroBoy: This woman is NOT a spokesperson for RESPONSIBLE gun owners.

According to the New Observer, the gun had been left next to a gun locker
in the family's unlocked garage.

Since you are fond of big, bold, centered text.

BY HER SON


She's not even responsible for her son now. These conservatives are a hypocritical bunch.
 
2013-10-23 02:00:39 PM

Nina_Hartley's_Ass: SpectroBoy: R.A.Danny: Unsecured? Were her doors locked? If so then it was secured.

Plus the victim blaming thing, maybe she was asking for it.

The garage was UNLOCKED.

She is an irresponsible gun owner.

"Responsible gun owners" are about as common as "good Christians" and "good drivers."

/and knowledgeable computer owners


You are correct, as is evident by the fact that almost no news story reports on a gun owner who behaved responsibly and thus caused no injuries or death due to proper use and storage of firearms. Logically, such individuals must not exist.
 
2013-10-23 02:00:47 PM

dittybopper: SpectroBoy: R.A.Danny: Unsecured? Were her doors locked? If so then it was secured.

Plus the victim blaming thing, maybe she was asking for it.

The garage was UNLOCKED.

She is an irresponsible gun owner.

No, at worst, you can blame her son:

The weapon belonged to Ellmers' college-aged son, he confirmed. Ellmers was in Washington, D.C., at the time of the theft.


So it's not the owner's responsibility? Huh.
 
2013-10-23 02:00:51 PM

liam76: dittybopper: mediablitz: Fubini: Guns are the kind of thing that warrant more protection than an entry door with a grade 3 lock.

She had a gun safe. She Her son was just too lazy to put the gun away.

FTFY.

She was too lazy to ensure they were secured.


Yeah. She was in Washington DC. Why the f*ck didn't she fly home to make sure her son put the gun away?

Lazy biatch...
 
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